Is there a place in the world you could live like a king via sig campaigns?

[Erumo]

Most of the African continent life is not hard enough to survive. And with Bitcointalk signature campaign payment you can live as a king with the pay out. If you plan with what you get monthly as allowance. because many of Africa countries don't know what is tax revenue and the length of expenses is shorter. And any money they have they does not depend on the money instead the money will establish another thing that will give them equivalent of the money they received from signature campaign. What is going to make them to live like a king is not dependable by the money gotten from signature but the investment used signature money to establish

And what would you suggest to do all that time in Africa? Watch tv, read book series till retirement and go on a safari excursions? If the life in a specific country is cheap, that does not mean it will suit everyone for a long living there.

You can live in an African city like this:



With signature campaign earning, you would live there not just as a kind, but as a god.

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[Davidvictorson]

Most of the African continent life is not hard enough to survive. And with Bitcointalk signature campaign payment you can live as a king with the pay out. If you plan with what you get monthly as allowance. because many of Africa countries don't know what is tax revenue and the length of expenses is shorter. And any money they have they does not depend on the money instead the money will establish another thing that will give them equivalent of the money they received from signature campaign. What is going to make them to live like a king is not dependable by the money gotten from signature but the investment used signature money to establish

I agree with you although living like a king depends on the African country and city one is resident in. Also it depends on one's monthly, dependents, marital status, lifestyle, etc. Most kings in some African countries are married to at least 3 women with lots of children. My point is that living like a king via sign campaign is relative base on several economic factors.

[stomachgrowls]

Most of the African continent life is not hard enough to survive. And with Bitcointalk signature campaign payment you can live as a king with the pay out. If you plan with what you get monthly as allowance. because many of Africa countries don't know what is tax revenue and the length of expenses is shorter. And any money they have they does not depend on the money instead the money will establish another thing that will give them equivalent of the money they received from signature campaign. What is going to make them to live like a king is not dependable by the money gotten from signature but the investment used signature money to establish

I agree with you although living like a king depends on the African country and city one is resident in. Also it depends on one's monthly, dependents, marital status, lifestyle, etc. Most kings in some African countries are married to at least 3 women with lots of children. My point is that living like a king via sign campaign is relative base on several economic factors.

Of course it would really be depending on lots of factors which you could really be considering that you are living like a king.
Yes, you might be earning decent with campaigns but with lots of expenses then it wouldn't really just be enough.

Also to mind off that signature campaigns arent permanent therefore its just dumb that you would really be that relying your living into that.Its just good for side income but never ever be an ideal
to consider it as a main source.

For people who do live on 3rd world would definitely be having that kind of advantage among others who had just been making themselves earn less with their day job
compared to the money that earned from campaigns based on USD.

[Renampun]

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You can live in an African city like this:



With signature campaign earning, you would live there not just as a kind, but as a god.

you should be able to detail which country on the African continent you mean...

I live in Indonesia and my country belongs to the Asian continent, here the average person's income is $100 - $250 / month so joining a signature campaign that pays with BTC is a good thing for members living in Indonesia (including me). my country is a developing country, so the cost of living in various cities is still not evenly distributed but the average is not too high.

[GiftedMAN]

I cannot be sure as the level of comfort varies from one personal standard to another.

Well, you read what I wrote as far as cock-of-the-walk standards, and I probably should have included buying some sort of luxury vehice--not a Bentley or Rolls, but a slick Mercedes or sporty BMW would do just fine.

So it sounds like that $1500/week would buy a pretty nice lifestyle in the Philippines.  Thanks for that input, I appreciate it.  It's also kind of what I assumed, because I've had the feeling that the cost of living in your country is pretty low if you compare it to the US (how much is gasoline over there, anyway?).  My next question would be: how does one go about getting citizenship in the Philippines?  Can somebody just fly there and take up residence, or would they be deported?

I'm still looking for places.  And just and FYI, this is not a new idea kicking around in my head.  I've wondered about this for years.

With that huge earnings weekly, you're going to be a well-known and respected king if you come to a place called Bayelsa located in Nigeria. You will live a luxury lifestyle and acquire properties too. The price of gas here is $1 so you won't find things difficult here.

[Wiwo]

                                 Abuja-Nigeria

With $1500= ₦750,000 weekly earnings is more than enough to live a standard lifestyle in my country's capital Abuja, with that amount you can save up to build yourself a beautiful house where each of the 5 of you guys will have access to a personal furnished room and two seating room for meetings. And if you guys care about some other businesses you can save up for that and build one give yourself 3 to 4 years you become the king of the city with steady income flows that will guarantee you a king-size lifestyle all through your life.

[yawars20]

This kind of came time to time and its not funny to think for yourself a fantasy land you own for yourself without interference of any kind of entity and and you can be king f that land. But As we all know in real world there is n land like this exist here on earth. To many entities are going to interfere either you do something or not as this is what the dark side of humans is. They can't sit and watch someone to fulfill his/her desire without worrying of any interference.

[Oluwa-btc]

Team work will make the dream work as well also bring in more energy,ideas and help reach the goals faster!

Wow, I haven't heard that saying written or uttered in at least 5-7 years.  And you're right about Africa probably not being ideal, though I'd hate to rule out the whole continent.  As I said, places like Zimbabwe and a few other countries do hold some appeal for me.


This we do daily, while having soccer drills, you watch my back and I do same for you likewise, hehehe.
And you wouldn't want to miss out on Zimbabwe, I did go back to dig down, guess what ?
They're currently the only African country that normalized the utilization of BTC in them day to day activities. As it's highly valued down that ends they started the usage ever since they had financial crises. Most talks you see bout BTCin Africa are rare ( as they're always done behind bars to avoid them pigs) 

[bitgov]

Team work will make the dream work as well also bring in more energy,ideas and help reach the goals faster!

Wow, I haven't heard that saying written or uttered in at least 5-7 years.  And you're right about Africa probably not being ideal, though I'd hate to rule out the whole continent.  As I said, places like Zimbabwe and a few other countries do hold some appeal for me.


This we do daily, while having soccer drills, you watch my back and I do same for you likewise, hehehe.
And you wouldn't want to miss out on Zimbabwe, I did go back to dig down, guess what ?
They're currently the only African country that normalized the utilization of BTC in them day to day activities. As it's highly valued down that ends they started the usage ever since they had financial crises. Most talks you see bout BTCin Africa are rare ( as they're always done behind bars to avoid them pigs) 

In Pakistan the cost of living is very low. If you have some good money like for say - $1500 than yes - if you do your homework you might find some good place to live, I would prefer my own clean beddings because I can not sleep on dirty beds. Rest since I am a cleanliness freak - so I would prefer cleanliness and comfort.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Also to mind off that signature campaigns arent permanent therefore its just dumb that you would really be that relying your living into that.

Yeah, I get the realities of my scenario as they'd probably play out in real life, including the fact that nobody's sure how long sig campaigns are going to exist.  I'm not sure which one has been the longest-running, but Chipmixer has been doing theirs for well over a year now, right?  And campaigns aren't what they used to be in terms of how much one could earn from them.  It used to be that if you made 50 posts in a week for Chipmixer, you'd earn 0.0375BTC, and they kept that rate right up to the point when that amount of bitcoin was way more than $300. 

I don't even know what other campaigns pay.  Do they come close to Chipmixer?

Rest since I am a cleanliness freak - so I would prefer cleanliness and comfort.

OK, you've been crossed off my list of potential housemates (LOL).  I wouldn't mix well with a neat freak unless I was paying them to clean up after me.

They're currently the only African country that normalized the utilization of BTC in them day to day activities.

No kidding?  Hmm.  Assuming there could be a decent-sized parcel of property that could be purchased (with or without a big house on it), I'm starting to lean toward Zimbabwe.  South America might be, as a whole, in second place but I'm not sure which country would be the most hospitable.

[m2017]

Also to mind off that signature campaigns arent permanent therefore its just dumb that you would really be that relying your living into that.

Yeah, I get the realities of my scenario as they'd probably play out in real life, including the fact that nobody's sure how long sig campaigns are going to exist.  I'm not sure which one has been the longest-running, but Chipmixer has been doing theirs for well over a year now, right?  And campaigns aren't what they used to be in terms of how much one could earn from them.  It used to be that if you made 50 posts in a week for Chipmixer, you'd earn 0.0375BTC, and they kept that rate right up to the point when that amount of bitcoin was way more than $300. 

I don't even know what other campaigns pay.  Do they come close to Chipmixer?

If we compare Chipmixer with other top campaigns on bitcointalk, then the pay rate differs by 1.5 times. But the main advantage that makes this campaign the leader in payouts is that you can make up to 50 posts per week. Then, as in the rest of the campaigns, basically, the weekly limit is 25 posts. This is what results in such a gap in remuneration from other campaigns.

[JayJuanGee]

Also to mind off that signature campaigns arent permanent therefore its just dumb that you would really be that relying your living into that.

Yeah, I get the realities of my scenario as they'd probably play out in real life, including the fact that nobody's sure how long sig campaigns are going to exist.  I'm not sure which one has been the longest-running, but Chipmixer has been doing theirs for well over a year now, right?  And campaigns aren't what they used to be in terms of how much one could earn from them.  It used to be that if you made 50 posts in a week for Chipmixer, you'd earn 0.0375BTC, and they kept that rate right up to the point when that amount of bitcoin was way more than $300. 

I don't even know what other campaigns pay.  Do they come close to Chipmixer?

If we compare Chipmixer with other top campaigns on bitcointalk, then the pay rate differs by 1.5 times. But the main advantage that makes this campaign the leader in payouts is that you can make up to 50 posts per week. Then, as in the rest of the campaigns, basically, the weekly limit is 25 posts. This is what results in such a gap in remuneration from other campaigns.

I doubt that I have been the ONLY one who may have been somewhat fighting with the hypothetical that relies on a signature campaign as a source of income that could: 1) provide up to $300 per week of income on a fairly reliable basis, 2) could count on such income into the future and 3) could find 4 other guys who are able to generate similar levels of income (presumably from similar kinds of sources).

To some extent, maybe I even downplayed how much you, The Pharmacist, were wanting to focus on the reliability of the source of income as much as being able to find a place in which you (and perhaps 5 other similarly situated guys) could live comfortably off of that level of income. 

So yes, in this latest post of yours, you suggest that if Chipmixer were to dry up, then would there be a back up signature campaign that is at a somewhat similar compensation level - and yeah, for someone like me, I neither give too many shits about earning income from such sig campaigns because I consider the amount to be too low and not really providing enough of an income cushion - except perhaps if you had happened to have been living in an area in which your costs were low enough that you would possibly have excess income.

I suppose that my battling with such scenario happens to deal with some level of importance that I have always placed on savings and creating various kinds of wealth cushions in order to be able to have options, so I have some difficulties accepting why anyone would want to limit themselves to such low level of income, especially in their younger years, and especially if they likely have additional income generating options.

Gosh there are no real skills in getting accepted into a signature campaign except maybe just keeping somewhat coherent and non-scammy and non-controversial posting techniques, so if all signature campaigns were to dry up, then there might be questions regarding how to make that same level of income (purportedly by working on or through the internet)  without necessarily needing to have very many skills - and aren't those the kinds of questions that any quasi-educated 3rd world person would be asking, so the edge in being able to get those kinds of jobs would be just to have decently good English presentation skills?  Is there a need for any subject-matter knowledge?

I guess I am having some difficulties relating if the focus of the question merely is about the extent to which something like a signature campaign income of $300 per week is sustainable... maybe I am a bit of a prude, even though I do somewhat agree with the idea of building enough savings so that you can generate a passive income (fuck the signature campaigns) so you would not necessarily have to rely upon outside sources of income in order to generate enough of an income from your prior investments that would rise to the level of being able to produce something like a $300 per week income ongoingly (and than to appreciate enough, as well to be able to account for possible(likely) increases in the cost of living)...

Historically, you would have to consider around a 4% withdrawal rate on any investment portfolio that you had built - so yeah, the amount of work that is involved to build such an investment portfolio may well be much above and beyond what you, , The Pharmacist, were wanting to do.  Getting up to $400k invested would allow for a withdrawal rate of $16k per year ($400k * 4%).. which would be about $308 per week ($16k / 52).

[dataispower]

I cannot be sure as the level of comfort varies from one personal standard to another.

Well, you read what I wrote as far as cock-of-the-walk standards, and I probably should have included buying some sort of luxury vehice--not a Bentley or Rolls, but a slick Mercedes or sporty BMW would do just fine.

So it sounds like that $1500/week would buy a pretty nice lifestyle in the Philippines.  Thanks for that input, I appreciate it.  It's also kind of what I assumed, because I've had the feeling that the cost of living in your country is pretty low if you compare it to the US (how much is gasoline over there, anyway?).  My next question would be: how does one go about getting citizenship in the Philippines?  Can somebody just fly there and take up residence, or would they be deported?

I'm still looking for places.  And just and FYI, this is not a new idea kicking around in my head.  I've wondered about this for years.

With that huge earnings weekly, you're going to be a well-known and respected king if you come to a place called Bayelsa located in Nigeria. You will live a luxury lifestyle and acquire properties too. The price of gas here is $1 so you won't find things difficult here.

Some places with signature campaign payment you will establish a mini company and live like king of empires. The issue we are having is to locate the perfect country from the continent. Because i know that with this payment some high paying workers does not pay compare to signature campaign payment if you combine to monthly. Some locale white cola jobs does not pay such big amount some people get from here. I will join The pharmacist at his back soon to establish for country that with my pay i will establish new thing that will give me money

[TheGreatPython]

This kind of came time to time and its not funny to think for yourself a fantasy land you own for yourself without interference of any kind of entity and and you can be king f that land. But As we all know in real world there is n land like this exist here on earth. To many entities are going to interfere either you do something or not as this is what the dark side of humans is. They can't sit and watch someone to fulfill his/her desire without worrying of any interference.

What do you mean by came? You mean this thoughts came to you from time to time? If it's only a fantasy then it wasn't serious at all so it can be funny too. You can make your own fantasy came true if only you are willing to work hard for it. You can build a land of your own if that is what your fantasy and earnings from signature campaigns can help you make it happen.

When you earn you can save, invest/stake, or any other things that you can do to make more out of it. Why will someone interfere you? As long as you are doing things in a legal and fair way, you are going to be fine. Just don't mind the haters. There's always a people like that because they can't achieve their own fantasies/dreams.

[Wiwo]

Also to mind off that signature campaigns arent permanent therefore its just dumb that you would really be that relying your living into that.

Yeah, I get the realities of my scenario as they'd probably play out in real life, including the fact that nobody's sure how long sig campaigns are going to exist. 

The Pharmacist is already I king so even if the signature campaign is wiped off the forum he will still leave up as a Whale king in up to 50 countries around the world most especially in Africa with a nice apartment, and steadily electricity with solar installation as back up power supply located on a hilltop view city center.

[Zlantann]

I don't think you can live like a king in any country with signature campaign revenue. Living like a king means living in affluence and abundance. Many people are mentioning Africa, but the truth is Africa is not cheap except you decide to live in the rural area. There are some places in Africa that you can spend your campaign money in one night living like a king. You can live a fair or middle class life with that money in the city, but to live like a king you need to be part of the corrupt political class or an influential business person. Don't also forget that most countries in Africa are suffering from double digits inflation which would affect your purchasing power. But if you choose to live in the rural area, then you would marry as much as three wives and own vast lands for agricultural purposes with your campaign funds. This is because African rural areas have a very low cost of living because most of the food consumed are produced by the rural dwellers. Accommodation is also very cheap but the only challenge is that the rural areas lack basic social amenities.

[JayJuanGee]

I don't think you can live like a king in any country with signature campaign revenue. Living like a king means living in affluence and abundance. Many people are mentioning Africa, but the truth is Africa is not cheap except you decide to live in the rural area. There are some places in Africa that you can spend your campaign money in one night living like a king. You can live a fair or middle class life with that money in the city, but to live like a king you need to be part of the corrupt political class or an influential business person. Don't also forget that most countries in Africa are suffering from double digits inflation which would affect your purchasing power. But if you choose to live in the rural area, then you would marry as much as three wives and own vast lands for agricultural purposes with your campaign funds. This is because African rural areas have a very low cost of living because most of the food consumed are produced by the rural dwellers. Accommodation is also very cheap but the only challenge is that the rural areas lack basic social amenities.

I doubt that you are attempting to work with the actual hypothetical Zlantann.

If you change too many of the variables, then you are creating a new hypothetical.

Showing that you can blow a lot of money in a night in any of the major cities of the world (even the less prosperous and less expensive cities) surely would not be representative of just being able to live relatively well in some house with 4 other guys (even though surely I don't consider living with others to be very preferable - because of the realities of getting others to pay their fair share and then coordinating with them in a variety of ways in terms of a variety of lifestyle preferences.

Sure we likely are not going to be able to get all of the details correct, and we do have to infer some matters from the hypothetical including that the reality of the matter would be that no one is going to live like a literal king for $300 per week - even under the circumstances of sharing a palace with 4 other guys, but you still attempt to imagine some scenarios in which the living can be decently comfortable - and having to go into rural areas - might be a step too far removed for quite a few guys - including the various amenities that The Pharmacist has described as preferences.

We know that living in the center of cities tend to cost more than living in the outskirts, so there still could be some access to having benefits from being close to the social hub rather than removing oneself all the way to rural areas and still getting a discount by not being exactly in the most expensive parts of the city.  Of course, any of us would suspect that some risk comes from living in rural areas in the sense of potentially becoming a target if you stand out quite a bit, and surely security concerns might end up getting to be overblown or some of us might not even realize that there is any kind of security concern if our stays are somewhat temporary, so we might not get extorted or kidnapped or held hostage until we have already established more of a permanent presence in such rural location(s) without even realizing that we had been put on the radar for an extortionist target (sometimes maybe lucky to escape with your life if such an event ends up happening.. and realizing by the time it is too late).. so sometimes it may well be better to either be in decently bigger city or at least a location in which the level of standing out does not contribute towards becoming a financial extortion target.

Even in Western Locations there are some cities that are way more affordable to live, and I am thinking that part of the goals of The Pharmacist is to attempt to benefit from the exotic factor of being in a foreign location that would not come from merely attempting to find a low cost place to live within a western country.

Maybe there are not too many differences between the cost of living in the USA versus Canada; however, Mexico has a lot of potential for discounted locations - relatively speaking and really has a pretty vast array of city and town types that tend to have pretty decent access to goods and services - probably more access to goods and services as compared with El Salvador, which is considered to be one of our potential bitcoin friendly locations.  I have been to Mexico and I have been to Panama, but I have not been to El Salvador, so it would be more difficult for me to talk about how feasible it might seem for an American to locate there in the coming years, if The Pharmacists potential action timeline target might be in the near future rather than sometime way into the future?

There also might be some guys who are able to talk about various South or Central American locations, too.  Even some of the Caribbean island locations might not be overly expensive to live, such as some of the purported tax benefits that might be had in locating to The Dominican Republic.

[Doan9269]

I don't think you can live like a king in any country with signature campaign revenue

why not? are you saying there's no way one can make a good leaving from his earnings from a signature campaign? or mabe probably you got such experience whereby you're unable to make effective utilization to your campaign earnings, well i think maybe you need to start with the read of this thread right from page one and see varieties of discussions that could help you understand why making a savings to live like a king is very important from the signature campaign you are, and it is also important for one to realised the potential in management, how you could make good and effective use of your finances, budgets and plans, how to position yourself amidst bad economy situations, how to live like a king even when others are struggling, and how to set good priority for a sustainable living standard.

Living like a king means living in affluence and abundance.

That may not says it all, but living like a king could also mean living a purposeful life that works with desired dreams being achieved, if a person does not know how to manage resources that no matter how much you vested on such individuals will resulted being squandered, you can have little and yet live like a king when you position yourself to appropriate planning and investing with the little you have for a multiplication thereafter, i have seen alot of rich people who earn zero respect and dignity because of thier inability to manage wealth and yet they live unfulfilled because they are never satisfied, they work less and expect much which is impossible. therefore for you to leave like a king requires your commitment to managing and maximizing the little you have into a big and desired thing you sought for.

[og kush420]

That may not says it all, but living like a king could also mean living a purposeful life that works with desired dreams being achieved, if a person does not know how to manage resources that no matter how much you vested on such individuals will resulted being squandered, you can have little and yet live like a king when you position yourself to appropriate planning and investing with the little you have for a multiplication thereafter, i have seen alot of rich people who earn zero respect and dignity because of thier inability to manage wealth and yet they live unfulfilled because they are never satisfied, they work less and expect much which is impossible. therefore for you to leave like a king requires your commitment to managing and maximizing the little you have into a big and desired thing you sought for.

In my country - every foreigner is a celebrity because there is less tourism and we feel happy seeing a foreigner around.
My country is famous for fertile land, 4 season, amazing Fruits and food and what not. But the media has projected the bad image of my country - if you can guess which country I am talking about!

[JayJuanGee]

Living like a king means living in affluence and abundance.

That may not says it all, but living like a king could also mean living a purposeful life that works with desired dreams being achieved, if a person does not know how to manage resources that no matter how much you vested on such individuals will resulted being squandered, you can have little and yet live like a king when you position yourself to appropriate planning and investing with the little you have for a multiplication thereafter, i have seen alot of rich people who earn zero respect and dignity because of thier inability to manage wealth and yet they live unfulfilled because they are never satisfied, they work less and expect much which is impossible. therefore for you to leave like a king requires your commitment to managing and maximizing the little you have into a big and desired thing you sought for.

Surely, "living like a king" has a bit of a management of money side to it... because surely anyone who lives within their means and has the option to not work based on income that they have coming in or to work minimally and still have all of their needs of life met, then could be considered as "living like a king" even though objectively, persons who are living within their means might well be earning/spending way less than other people who are forced to work to service both their ongoing debts and the lifestyle that they chose to live.

Whether a signature campaign or some other kind of minimal effort kind of "employment" that brings in a cashflow would be considered as choosing the kind of work or minimizing the kind of work or sufficiently satisfying/fulfilling may well be within the eyes of the beholder.

The whole assessment of the matter of whether a person happens to be "living within their means" and sufficiently free from either debt bondage or their own chosen lifestyle remains somewhat subjective, too.. because some people may well proclaim that they are completely happy in their having to work 40-80 hours a week because they love the kind of work that they do and they get a sense of self-fulfillment from their work.  At some point, there might be some acknowledgement of lack of fulfillment or burnout could kick in, and then at that point, there might be some acknowledgement that reduction of debt could end up providing more freedoms... yet I had already argued that some value can also come from earning a relatively high income job (even if you do not like it) to build up an investment portfolio nestegg that would thereafter allow one to live off of that built-up investment nestegg without having to do any further work - besides merely managing the cashflow and investments within that portfolio - which could end up being a not very high impact/stress kind of work... the 4-hour week? hahaha...

That may not says it all, but living like a king could also mean living a purposeful life that works with desired dreams being achieved, if a person does not know how to manage resources that no matter how much you vested on such individuals will resulted being squandered, you can have little and yet live like a king when you position yourself to appropriate planning and investing with the little you have for a multiplication thereafter, i have seen alot of rich people who earn zero respect and dignity because of thier inability to manage wealth and yet they live unfulfilled because they are never satisfied, they work less and expect much which is impossible. therefore for you to leave like a king requires your commitment to managing and maximizing the little you have into a big and desired thing you sought for.

In my country - every foreigner is a celebrity because there is less tourism and we feel happy seeing a foreigner around.
My country is famous for fertile land, 4 season, amazing Fruits and food and what not. But the media has projected the bad image of my country - if you can guess which country I am talking about!

I doubt that it is very helpful to have a "guess the country" contest.