Power Or Money ?

[cryptosize]

I want someone to answer this question honestly:

Would there be porn and prostitution WITHOUT money/capitalism?

Would women do it for free?

And no, I don't mean having sex just for fun with men of their preference.

You should first know that prostitution solely involves the solicitation of sexual services for money.
There are male prostitutes as well.
If women or men do it for free, money doesn’t change hands and therefore can’t be regarded as such.
Do you ask questions like this for the fun of it?

I am not in favor of prostitution; I am against it. However...

We could all avoid a lot of interference by government in money affairs if we simply did this. Set up a trust or corporation or LLC to own our money. We ourselves would be the controller or trustee or president. We would have wording in the 'entity' which gave us the ability to transfer the control to someone else. Simply transfer the control to somebody else when we want to buy something.

The artificial entity still has the money; there was no exchange of money for anything. Since the 'entity' is considered to be a person by government, there isn't any personal tax to it for exchanging money. And, there isn't any regulation for doing nothing.

Many rich people use this method all the time to avoid taxation legally. This shows that power is greater than money.

I dont know which culture and society supports prostitution 
There are more disadvantages than advantages of this profession - and at the end these women has so much psychological and physical problems that they have to leave all this to go to an isolated life.

If money/capitalism didn't exist, would they do it?

Would they have sex with tons of strangers just for fun?

Nobody has answered this...

My answer:

Money enables prostitution to exist. Women would NOT do it for free. They have no benefit to do so.

[BADecker]

I dont know which culture and society supports prostitution 
There are more disadvantages than advantages of this profession - and at the end these women has so much psychological and physical problems that they have to leave all this to go to an isolated life.

If money/capitalism didn't exist, would they do it?

Would they have sex with tons of strangers just for fun?

Nobody has answered this...

My answer:

Money enables prostitution to exist. Women would NOT do it for free. They have no benefit to do so.

Money enables, yes. However, in the US and lots of places in Europe, there are women we would call 'sluts'. Most of them are young... late teens and early twenties. But some are quite young... barely into their teens... who do it for the experience. Many of them are hoping for a family later on, and have never been taught about honor, and the honorable way of doing things. Many others are doing it for the self-gratification a young person gets from having a youthful, healthy body, and feeling soooo good with the experience.

It isn't really prostitution. But it might be way worse. If a good and honorable guy or gal wants to find someone who is virgin, how in the world can he figure out if he has one or not? Go with a person for a year without sex. If they are willing to "last" that long, maybe they are for real.

[cryptosize]

I dont know which culture and society supports prostitution 
There are more disadvantages than advantages of this profession - and at the end these women has so much psychological and physical problems that they have to leave all this to go to an isolated life.

If money/capitalism didn't exist, would they do it?

Would they have sex with tons of strangers just for fun?

Nobody has answered this...

My answer:

Money enables prostitution to exist. Women would NOT do it for free. They have no benefit to do so.

Money enables, yes. However, in the US and lots of places in Europe, there are women we would call 'sluts'. Most of them are young... late teens and early twenties. But some are quite young... barely into their teens... who do it for the experience. Many of them are hoping for a family later on, and have never been taught about honor, and the honorable way of doing things. Many others are doing it for the self-gratification a young person gets from having a youthful, healthy body, and feeling soooo good with the experience.

It isn't really prostitution. But it might be way worse. If a good and honorable guy or gal wants to find someone who is virgin, how in the world can he figure out if he has one or not? Go with a person for a year without sex. If they are willing to "last" that long, maybe they are for real.

Even sluts will not fuck every single man they meet on the street. They are selective to a certain degree.

Prostitutes don't get to be selective. They are forced to have sex, since they get money for doing it.

It's a job, just like serving meals in McDonalds. Would you serve an unpleasant person if you didn't get a salary for it? I know I wouldn't.

That was my whole point... it wasn't that hard to figure it out.

Money enables people to do things they would never do otherwise.

An organized society of 8 billion people is impossible to exist without money (any form of money, USD, BTC, whatever).

Small tribes of 150 people? Yeah, those exist in Andaman islands for example. But they're not the majority anymore. We don't live in 50.000 BCE.

[BADecker]

Money enables, yes. However, in the US and lots of places in Europe, there are women we would call 'sluts'. Most of them are young... late teens and early twenties. But some are quite young... barely into their teens... who do it for the experience. Many of them are hoping for a family later on, and have never been taught about honor, and the honorable way of doing things. Many others are doing it for the self-gratification a young person gets from having a youthful, healthy body, and feeling soooo good with the experience.

It isn't really prostitution. But it might be way worse. If a good and honorable guy or gal wants to find someone who is virgin, how in the world can he figure out if he has one or not? Go with a person for a year without sex. If they are willing to "last" that long, maybe they are for real.

Even sluts will not fuck every single man they meet on the street. They are selective to a certain degree.

Prostitutes don't get to be selective. They are forced to have sex, since they get money for doing it.

It's a job, just like serving meals in McDonalds. Would you serve an unpleasant person if you didn't get a salary for it? I know I wouldn't.

That was my whole point... it wasn't that hard to figure it out.

Money enables people to do things they would never do otherwise.

An organized society of 8 billion people is impossible to exist without money (any form of money, USD, BTC, whatever).

Small tribes of 150 people? Yeah, those exist in Andaman islands for example. But they're not the majority anymore. We don't live in 50.000 BCE.

An organized society of 8 billion people easily exists if the highest form of government is the individual family. It's when groups of families start electing higher forms of government that we start to have trouble.

[cryptosize]

Money enables, yes. However, in the US and lots of places in Europe, there are women we would call 'sluts'. Most of them are young... late teens and early twenties. But some are quite young... barely into their teens... who do it for the experience. Many of them are hoping for a family later on, and have never been taught about honor, and the honorable way of doing things. Many others are doing it for the self-gratification a young person gets from having a youthful, healthy body, and feeling soooo good with the experience.

It isn't really prostitution. But it might be way worse. If a good and honorable guy or gal wants to find someone who is virgin, how in the world can he figure out if he has one or not? Go with a person for a year without sex. If they are willing to "last" that long, maybe they are for real.

Even sluts will not fuck every single man they meet on the street. They are selective to a certain degree.

Prostitutes don't get to be selective. They are forced to have sex, since they get money for doing it.

It's a job, just like serving meals in McDonalds. Would you serve an unpleasant person if you didn't get a salary for it? I know I wouldn't.

That was my whole point... it wasn't that hard to figure it out.

Money enables people to do things they would never do otherwise.

An organized society of 8 billion people is impossible to exist without money (any form of money, USD, BTC, whatever).

Small tribes of 150 people? Yeah, those exist in Andaman islands for example. But they're not the majority anymore. We don't live in 50.000 BCE.

An organized society of 8 billion people easily exists if the highest form of government is the individual family. It's when groups of families start electing higher forms of government that we start to have trouble.

So you believe that money is not needed at all (including BTC)?

A family ain't gonna produce all the products you need... including the electronic device you're typing your posts from.

[BADecker]

An organized society of 8 billion people easily exists if the highest form of government is the individual family. It's when groups of families start electing higher forms of government that we start to have trouble.

So you believe that money is not needed at all (including BTC)?

A family ain't gonna produce all the products you need... including the electronic device you're typing your posts from.

What is money? Until a person realizes that money is anything of value (perceived value) that can be traded for something else of value, he has a mistaken view of what money is.

When people focus their idea of money on some particular item - like paper dollars or credit cards - they are opening themselves up to being harmed by those who recognize what money really is, and who set themselves up in positions of controlling cash and cards.

Where is the money exchange between us as we use the computers and this forum? It is in the value of the things that we say in our posts.

If you don't think that your posts are things of value, then why do you post them? But if you think that they have value, recognize that you are trading in money in a simple conversation between members... value for value.

[cryptosize]

An organized society of 8 billion people easily exists if the highest form of government is the individual family. It's when groups of families start electing higher forms of government that we start to have trouble.

So you believe that money is not needed at all (including BTC)?

A family ain't gonna produce all the products you need... including the electronic device you're typing your posts from.

What is money? Until a person realizes that money is anything of value (perceived value) that can be traded for something else of value, he has a mistaken view of what money is.

When people focus their idea of money on some particular item - like paper dollars or credit cards - they are opening themselves up to being harmed by those who recognize what money really is, and who set themselves up in positions of controlling cash and cards.

Where is the money exchange between us as we use the computers and this forum? It is in the value of the things that we say in our posts.

If you don't think that your posts are things of value, then why do you post them? But if you think that they have value, recognize that you are trading in money in a simple conversation between members... value for value.

If you wanna send me some sats for my posts, I won't object.

[BADecker]

An organized society of 8 billion people easily exists if the highest form of government is the individual family. It's when groups of families start electing higher forms of government that we start to have trouble.

So you believe that money is not needed at all (including BTC)?

A family ain't gonna produce all the products you need... including the electronic device you're typing your posts from.

What is money? Until a person realizes that money is anything of value (perceived value) that can be traded for something else of value, he has a mistaken view of what money is.

When people focus their idea of money on some particular item - like paper dollars or credit cards - they are opening themselves up to being harmed by those who recognize what money really is, and who set themselves up in positions of controlling cash and cards.

Where is the money exchange between us as we use the computers and this forum? It is in the value of the things that we say in our posts.

If you don't think that your posts are things of value, then why do you post them? But if you think that they have value, recognize that you are trading in money in a simple conversation between members... value for value.

If you wanna send me some sats for my posts, I won't object.

The value is right in the posts that I return to you.     

[cryptosize]

An organized society of 8 billion people easily exists if the highest form of government is the individual family. It's when groups of families start electing higher forms of government that we start to have trouble.

So you believe that money is not needed at all (including BTC)?

A family ain't gonna produce all the products you need... including the electronic device you're typing your posts from.

What is money? Until a person realizes that money is anything of value (perceived value) that can be traded for something else of value, he has a mistaken view of what money is.

When people focus their idea of money on some particular item - like paper dollars or credit cards - they are opening themselves up to being harmed by those who recognize what money really is, and who set themselves up in positions of controlling cash and cards.

Where is the money exchange between us as we use the computers and this forum? It is in the value of the things that we say in our posts.

If you don't think that your posts are things of value, then why do you post them? But if you think that they have value, recognize that you are trading in money in a simple conversation between members... value for value.

If you wanna send me some sats for my posts, I won't object.

The value is right in the posts that I return to you.     

What are you doing on this forum if you don't acknowledge BTC to be a valid form of money?

[BADecker]

The value is right in the posts that I return to you.    

What are you doing on this forum if you don't acknowledge BTC to be a valid form of money?

Are you even talking to me? Didn't I just tell you that anything of value that can be traded is money? So, what are you really talking about?

[bitgov]

The value is right in the posts that I return to you.    

What are you doing on this forum if you don't acknowledge BTC to be a valid form of money?

Are you even talking to me? Didn't I just tell you that anything of value that can be traded is money? So, what are you really talking about?

Arent you all going off topic.
The topic is about power and money - and everyone has right to agree or disagree with the point other make - nothing to take personally
However if i have to choose between power and money - I would prefer money and it will bring power to me.

[Tallupooh]

Power, is the place where we feel we are the highest.

If I choose between power or money. Maybe I'll choose money. Basically, power is also influenced by money. If there is no money, there may be no power. Because sometimes people today always prioritize people who have money. But there are also some people who are not.

[BADecker]

^^^ Remember one basic thing. When the Earth was made, there was no money involved. The extreme complexity involved in life around the world was set in place without any money ever being involved. To be able to manipulate things like that is REAL power.

Sure, the way the world is now, we can manipulate a few things if we have money. But even money isn't enough to save anyone from death. Or, do you know of some rich guy who is, say, 300 years old?

I would rather have the power. Money is weak, and only causes dependency without being able to provide REAL power results. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5413891.msg61085125#msg61085125

[Renampun]

Power is Power,
Money is also Power.

So, if you're too choose one, what you down for ?
Power or Money ?

do you mean by 'power' is a position like in government and 'money' you mean those who have a lot of money (rich people)??

if so then what I choose is money, even though a lot of money is called the root of evil but many people who have 'power' also have a goal to get a lot of money (become rich) then that 'money' is the real goal of many people. When you have money, you can have a lot, especially power.

[Gallar]

in my view, power and money are the same thing but sometimes also different,
because if in power sometimes it brings money, sometimes it doesn't.

on the contrary,
if we have money we can be in power, sometimes even using money can't make us powerful.

because money and power are complex things,
sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

[Gosgosking]

Power is Power,
Money is also Power.

So, if you're too choose one, what you down for ?
Power or Money ?

do you mean by 'power' is a position like in government and 'money' you mean those who have a lot of money (rich people)??

if so then what I choose is money, even though a lot of money is called the root of evil but many people who have 'power' also have a goal to get a lot of money (become rich) then that 'money' is the real goal of many people. When you have money, you can have a lot, especially power.

In this our present society it is impossible for someone to have power without money,  everything we need in our society we get it through money. We get political power by the money we have. 

Power is expensive now that we need money to acquire it.

[SOKO-DEKE]

Power and money are two of the most potent forces in the world, but if I had to choose, I would choose power because people value power more than money, and they respect those who possess it. For instance, take Queen Elizabeth as an example. When she passed away, all of England showed her respect by stopping certain activities, including their love of football. However, I don't think they would do the same for the country's richest man.

[bitgov]

Power and money are two of the most potent forces in the world, but if I had to choose, I would choose power because people value power more than money, and they respect those who possess it. For instance, take Queen Elizabeth as an example. When she passed away, all of England showed her respect by stopping certain activities, including their love of football. However, I don't think they would do the same for the country's richest man.

I would prefer Money  not power
If you have money - that power automatically come to you. My way of checking the success is to have a lots of money
If I seek financial freedom then my aim is achieved.

[BADecker]

Power and money are two of the most potent forces in the world, but if I had to choose, I would choose power because people value power more than money, and they respect those who possess it. For instance, take Queen Elizabeth as an example. When she passed away, all of England showed her respect by stopping certain activities, including their love of football. However, I don't think they would do the same for the country's richest man.

I would prefer Money  not power

If I still had some of those fake bank loans going, I would prefer money, as well. But after getting them all paid off, I would prefer power.

[Lordhermes]

Every individual on earth has two major desires: power and money. Everyone aspires to be both wealthy and powerful. Making a decision is difficult since you need money to acquire power and power to maintain your money. Evidently, having power is essential since it allows you to exert control over various areas, including the economy. But you can only influence people in your immediate area if you have money. You can empower, employ, and build relationships with individuals when you have power. Power is crucial since it always contributes to character development. Abraham Lincoln says, if you want to know man's character give him power. Power gives you the ability to know a good leader.