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Magsayo - 15 (93.8%)
Vargas - 1 (6.3%)
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Author Topic: [Boxing] Mark Magsayo vs Rey Vargas WBC Featherweight Title (July 9)  (Read 2944 times)
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July 10, 2022, 06:38:18 AM
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That's true they used to be many streamers of fights, on Facebook specifically but I'm still lucky to find one and I hope my luck in finding a streamer continues in this fight, it's one of the fights I'd like to see since you mentioned your alternative link can you post it here.
Some streamers are good at evading detection usually they turn off the sound and restrict comments or change the title to evade detection.

Well, it is really good to share but the number of Pay Per views will surely go down, and instead of supporting the fight Streamers that share the fight on social media are Robbing the income, but I can not blame those who don't want to pay to get a glimpse of the fight, they don't want to waste money on a pay per view, that may let them feed their family instead,

But there are streamers that are evading detection hackers that keeping them afloat I haven't seen a stream online so I have waited for the highlights instead, just to be true to myself I surely can wait patiently for the replay to be posted online,

The latest update Vargas beat Magsayo by a split decision Magsayo scored a

Vargas SD-12 against Magasyo (115-112, 113-114, 115-112) to become new WBC Featherweight champion.

Vargas dominated from round 3 to round 8 with his stiff jabs, he uses his height and reaches advantage to ward off Magsayo's attack, I don't know if its over confidence but it seems Vargas has played his game well compared to Magsayo but this one deserves a rematch if there is in the contract that there is one.

I got to admit Rey Vargas was calculating and looking for his distance on the 1st two rounds, then dominates the following rounds, even though Mark Magsayo points a knockdown against Vargas in the 9th round, it is not enough for the number of Rounds Vargas have got, from that round Vargas was now careful on the last rounds, and Mark Magsayo is aggressive and wants to get a knockout, but to no avail, but yeah Rey Vargas did a good job in using his height advantage and always getting a clear shot on Magsayo, many say that Mark Magsayo was rob from this match but in my opinion, Vargas has gotten a lot of points to erase that Knockout point of Magsayo, I am for Magsayo on this fight, but I am not biased on what I see on the fight both fighters fight their all so a rematch is surely appropriate,


Kinda remind me of the match between Kambosos and Haney, where the taller guy with a long reach used it to his full advantage
Vargas used an old tactic for a tall guy to use his advantage by keeping his distance by jabs and side-to-side movement, Magsayo before the start of the fight showing too much confidence, great fighters don't do that, Vargas clearly had the number after the fight I though Vargas will win by unanimous decision, the community had its majority for Magsayo, there's really upsets and this is something that should not be ruled out.

Rey Vargas did a great job no doubt about that, even though Mark Magsayo can surely show a lot more, that long reach advantage for Vargas was keeping and pressuring Magsayo away, many are saying that the whole crowd was for Vargas, and even the judges and the referee, I'd say no I really think the judges made the right decision on this fight, Magsayo was really aggressive at Vargas, maybe because of the odds, he gets to the confidence that he can win against Vargas, but both fighters have shown remarkable style, and I would love a rematch please,
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July 10, 2022, 09:09:41 AM
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The latest update Vargas beat Magsayo by a split decision Magsayo scored a

Vargas SD-12 against Magasyo (115-112, 113-114, 115-112) to become new WBC Featherweight champion.

Vargas dominated from round 3 to round 8 with his stiff jabs, he uses his height and reaches advantage to ward off Magsayo's attack, I don't know if its over confidence but it seems Vargas has played his game well compared to Magsayo but this one deserves a rematch if there is in the contract that there is one.

It was indeed a good fight for Vargas.  Magsayo heavily relies on his heavy punches, while Vargas just dances around the ring with his jabs.  And it is seen that Magsayo is frustrated when he starts hitting Vargas at the back of his head.  I hope next time Magsayo learns more footsteps and angles and works on his quickness.  Hopefully, he can acquire Manny's great footwork and angles.
He did have the quickness. He is trying to go inside (like Makunouchi Ippo's Dempsey Roll) but whenever he does it Vargas stops him with a clinch. Without momentum going for Magsayo, he became frustrated and that also made him exhausted real fast.
It was a good fight though, he was there almost knocking Vargas out but it's not easy fighting longer and taller guys. Now his record is tainted, but we will see a rematch obviously as it ended with an SD.
Will be looking forward for a knockout next time they meet.

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July 10, 2022, 09:20:13 AM
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Kinda remind me of the match between Kambosos and Haney, where the taller guy with a long reach used it to his full advantage
I was already mentioned this since there's a gap about the reach, moreover this fight the reach and height gaps is higher than Kambosos vs Haney. It's either win via decision for Vargas or Magsayo win via KO, since it's decision then it's has been expected Vargas is the winner.

It's unfortunate to see Magsayo lose and seems he won against Rusell was just a fluke and Rusell aren't make an excuse of his shoulder injury. Now he need to comeback to get back his belt, a rematch will be happen I guess, but not too soon.

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After all, Magsayo lost, well, I was sure that he won on points Smiley, but of course the last decision is up to the judges, it's a shame, but I hope there will be a rematch.

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July 10, 2022, 10:58:25 AM
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After all, Magsayo lost, well, I was sure that he won on points Smiley, but of course the last decision is up to the judges, it's a shame, but I hope there will be a rematch.
Magsayo still did a great a job despite of the decision, I just loss a bet but I do hope for a rematch because we witnessed a great match up, its just that Vargas is too much for Magsayo, but who knows maybe because of this loss Magsayo will train harder to reclaim the belt. This loss left the Philippines without a world champion, I hope our boxer will have a good fight again.
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July 10, 2022, 11:30:51 AM
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After all, Magsayo lost, well, I was sure that he won on points Smiley, but of course the last decision is up to the judges, it's a shame, but I hope there will be a rematch.
Magsayo still did a great a job despite of the decision, I just loss a bet but I do hope for a rematch because we witnessed a great match up, its just that Vargas is too much for Magsayo, but who knows maybe because of this loss Magsayo will train harder to reclaim the belt. This loss left the Philippines without a world champion, I hope our boxer will have a good fight again.
IMO, the judges' decision was fair, Magsayo lose because he cannot hit Vargas with some solid shots and Vargas was too smart to use his reach advantage. Magsayo knock down Vargas but it wasn't enough to convince the judges to give him the win. Magsayo will come back for sure.

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July 10, 2022, 11:42:17 AM
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After all, Magsayo lost, well, I was sure that he won on points Smiley, but of course the last decision is up to the judges, it's a shame, but I hope there will be a rematch.
Magsayo still did a great a job despite of the decision, I just loss a bet but I do hope for a rematch because we witnessed a great match up, its just that Vargas is too much for Magsayo, but who knows maybe because of this loss Magsayo will train harder to reclaim the belt. This loss left the Philippines without a world champion, I hope our boxer will have a good fight again.
IMO, the judges' decision was fair, Magsayo lose because he cannot hit Vargas with some solid shots and Vargas was too smart to use his reach advantage. Magsayo knock down Vargas but it wasn't enough to convince the judges to give him the win. Magsayo will come back for sure.
There was no cheating here, let's accept the outcome and still believe that Magsayo will return. He did his best but he is not Manny Pacman, maybe our expectation on him is too high that's why we cannot accept the defeat or we think that the judges cheated the outcome.

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July 10, 2022, 11:56:43 AM
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After all, Magsayo lost, well, I was sure that he won on points Smiley, but of course the last decision is up to the judges, it's a shame, but I hope there will be a rematch.
Magsayo still did a great a job despite of the decision, I just loss a bet but I do hope for a rematch because we witnessed a great match up, its just that Vargas is too much for Magsayo, but who knows maybe because of this loss Magsayo will train harder to reclaim the belt. This loss left the Philippines without a world champion, I hope our boxer will have a good fight again.
IMO, the judges' decision was fair, Magsayo lose because he cannot hit Vargas with some solid shots and Vargas was too smart to use his reach advantage. Magsayo knock down Vargas but it wasn't enough to convince the judges to give him the win. Magsayo will come back for sure.
There was no cheating here, let's accept the outcome and still believe that Magsayo will return. He did his best but he is not Manny Pacman, maybe our expectation on him is too high that's why we cannot accept the defeat or we think that the judges cheated the outcome.
Even our great boxer losses a fight but it doesn't matter because usually, Filipino boxer will always rise and this is not the end for Magsayo, there's still a chance for a rematch. He is still young and talented, let's admit this defeat and move forward. I loss some on my bet as well because I support Magsayo here but that's fine, this can be a big lesson to that young boxer and probably be better on his up coming fights, more to go for Magsayo.

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July 10, 2022, 11:58:25 AM
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I guess majority of us here lost our bet on Magsayo. When I saw how the round is going in the first 4, I said to myself that this is a difficult fight for Mark and he will have to knock out Vargas in order to win. He won't win on the judges score card for sure.

There is no cheating, it was a fair score by the judges,  Magsayo was just short of his effort but it is what it is. He has to accept and move forward. If there will be a rematch good, if not then Magsayo needs to double up and work very hard again.

 
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The latest update Vargas beat Magsayo by a split decision Magsayo scored a

Vargas SD-12 against Magasyo (115-112, 113-114, 115-112) to become new WBC Featherweight champion.

Vargas dominated from round 3 to round 8 with his stiff jabs, he uses his height and reaches advantage to ward off Magsayo's attack, I don't know if its over confidence but it seems Vargas has played his game well compared to Magsayo but this one deserves a rematch if there is in the contract that there is one.

That's actually a good fight and well deserved for a rematch.
That was the fight between a close combat and distance fighter. Vargas was spectacular from rounds 3-8 keeping his distance and a good jab to dominate the whole game.
Magsayo had his chance in round 9 on wards but he did not take advantage of it when Vargas got shaken with that huge round 9 knock down. Magsayo clearly lacks of head movement, footwork, and a follow up punches. He solely rely on his power punches.
Nevertheless, Vargas dominated the fight.

Magsayo didn't think he would lose the fight so he was not so aggressive when Vargas went down, you know, he might be thinking what if Vargas will hit him with a solid counter that would result in him losing. If he was desperate to win, he could have gone for a KO in that round.
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July 10, 2022, 01:07:46 PM
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The latest update Vargas beat Magsayo by a split decision Magsayo scored a

Vargas SD-12 against Magasyo (115-112, 113-114, 115-112) to become new WBC Featherweight champion.

Vargas dominated from round 3 to round 8 with his stiff jabs, he uses his height and reaches advantage to ward off Magsayo's attack, I don't know if its over confidence but it seems Vargas has played his game well compared to Magsayo but this one deserves a rematch if there is in the contract that there is one.

That's actually a good fight and well deserved for a rematch.
That was the fight between a close combat and distance fighter. Vargas was spectacular from rounds 3-8 keeping his distance and a good jab to dominate the whole game.
Magsayo had his chance in round 9 on wards but he did not take advantage of it when Vargas got shaken with that huge round 9 knock down. Magsayo clearly lacks of head movement, footwork, and a follow up punches. He solely rely on his power punches.
Nevertheless, Vargas dominated the fight.

Magsayo didn't think he would lose the fight so he was not so aggressive when Vargas went down, you know, he might be thinking what if Vargas will hit him with a solid counter that would result in him losing. If he was desperate to win, he could have gone for a KO in that round.

We are all wrong here, it was 15-0 in favor of Magsayo here, but the result was the opposite. It was a tough fight for him, he cannot dominate the challenger so it's not a surprise that he lost the fight. Magsayo has to train harder, and improve more on the head movement and footwork, he is so predictable that's why he cannot find the right timing.

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July 10, 2022, 01:23:33 PM
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I guess majority of us here lost our bet on Magsayo. When I saw how the round is going in the first 4, I said to myself that this is a difficult fight for Mark and he will have to knock out Vargas in order to win. He won't win on the judges score card for sure.

There is no cheating, it was a fair score by the judges,  Magsayo was just short of his effort but it is what it is. He has to accept and move forward. If there will be a rematch good, if not then Magsayo needs to double up and work very hard again.

That jab and reach advantage really did the damage for Vargas and Magsayo was having a hard time closing the gap so i agree with you mate, that was indeed a fair score, if only Magsayo has enough gas, he could have finished Vargas right there but he did not go all out, maybe he save some gas for the next rounds.

Nevertheless, it was a good fight and that was what I'm expecting, a close fight and just hoping that Magsayo could get the win but he fell short so better luck next time.

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I guess majority of us here lost our bet on Magsayo. When I saw how the round is going in the first 4, I said to myself that this is a difficult fight for Mark and he will have to knock out Vargas in order to win. He won't win on the judges score card for sure.

There is no cheating, it was a fair score by the judges,  Magsayo was just short of his effort but it is what it is. He has to accept and move forward. If there will be a rematch good, if not then Magsayo needs to double up and work very hard again.

That jab and reach advantage really did the damage for Vargas and Magsayo was having a hard time closing the gap so i agree with you mate, that was indeed a fair score, if only Magsayo has enough gas, he could have finished Vargas right there but he did not go all out, maybe he save some gas for the next rounds.

Nevertheless, it was a good fight and that was what I'm expecting, a close fight and just hoping that Magsayo could get the win but he fell short so better luck next time.

There should be a rematch on this fight, I hope Vargas would be okay with that as fans would still want to see the fight. It was a tough loss by Magsayo, he work hard to be a champion, and on his first defense, it's all gone. He tried his best, but I think there's still plenty of lacking that could make him a great fighter.

He is only 26 years old, there's plenty of battle to be fought for him.

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After all, Magsayo lost, well, I was sure that he won on points Smiley, but of course the last decision is up to the judges, it's a shame, but I hope there will be a rematch.
Magsayo still did a great a job despite of the decision, I just loss a bet but I do hope for a rematch because we witnessed a great match up, its just that Vargas is too much for Magsayo, but who knows maybe because of this loss Magsayo will train harder to reclaim the belt. This loss left the Philippines without a world champion, I hope our boxer will have a good fight again.
IMO, the judges' decision was fair, Magsayo lose because he cannot hit Vargas with some solid shots and Vargas was too smart to use his reach advantage. Magsayo knock down Vargas but it wasn't enough to convince the judges to give him the win. Magsayo will come back for sure.
There was no cheating here, let's accept the outcome and still believe that Magsayo will return. He did his best but he is not Manny Pacman, maybe our expectation on him is too high that's why we cannot accept the defeat or we think that the judges cheated the outcome.

Poll result 15-0. Made it so convincing to bet for Magsayo. Damn we anticipated it too much that we bank to this poll.
A reason to expect high by the way. The decision does look like the judges didn't count that Vargas went down. Both did the best of what they got to entertain fans, this is the kind of fight that you need to be in the ringside to enjoy. A very match fight that deserves a rematch.
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There should be a rematch on this fight, I hope Vargas would be okay with that as fans would still want to see the fight. It was a tough loss by Magsayo, he work hard to be a champion, and on his first defense, it's all gone. He tried his best, but I think there's still plenty of lacking that could make him a great fighter.

He is only 26 years old, there's plenty of battle to be fought for him.


If it's in the contract, there will be a rematch usually the champion prior to the fight will stipulate it if he loses the title, this is indeed a hard loss for Magsayo I saw how he tried to connect his big punches but Vargas is too good in alluding those big punches the stiff jab made all the difference in this fight, Vargas has a good plan keep the distance and made him pay for his misses, I guess the likes of Gervonta are the one that can easily beat tall guys who love to run.

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July 10, 2022, 03:15:46 PM
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If it's in the contract, there will be a rematch usually the champion prior to the fight will stipulate it if he loses the title, this is indeed a hard loss for Magsayo I saw how he tried to connect his big punches but Vargas is too good in alluding those big punches the stiff jab made all the difference in this fight, Vargas has a good plan keep the distance and made him pay for his misses, I guess the likes of Gervonta are the one that can easily beat tall guys who love to run.
IMO, most points I give to Magsayo including the difference with the knockout punch he threw which made Vargas kneel.
Some points were also missing and most of them were knockdowns that were disregarded by the official because it looks like a push downwards.
His knees are failing, that's why he keeps on falling and the referee didn't seem to notice it.
The problem is, this is boxing and it will all rely on your performance. If only he could knock him down without getting up, that will surely end the game.
Vargas may have won, but I am proud of Magsayo. That's not an easy task going again a long-range fighter.

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July 10, 2022, 06:46:14 PM
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The latest update Vargas beat Magsayo by a split decision Magsayo scored a

Vargas SD-12 against Magasyo (115-112, 113-114, 115-112) to become new WBC Featherweight champion.

Vargas dominated from round 3 to round 8 with his stiff jabs, he uses his height and reaches advantage to ward off Magsayo's attack, I don't know if its over confidence but it seems Vargas has played his game well compared to Magsayo but this one deserves a rematch if there is in the contract that there is one.

Magsayo struggled to get near Vargas because the latter maintained his position always and just like you said, Vargas used his height and reach advantage to get the most score out of Magsayo. It was anticipated that Vargas would use his advantages but it wasn't expected that Magsayo can't get much punch to Vargas.

In the late rounds, Magsayo managed to knock down Vargas but it was a little too late as the latter already dominated the early round until the middle rounds. Better luck next time kabayan.

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July 10, 2022, 08:26:32 PM
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The decision is split so there's a chance to have a rematch if the promoter saw a demand from the viewer that ask for it. Magsayo definitely deserves rematch because he is the previous champion and to seal this match to a more convincing result. Personally, I don't like Magsayo due to his attitude and just basic attack moves. But I hope to see him again for a rematch as a support to fellow countryman.
The promoter will analyze the huge profit potential to register a rematch for both boxers who have performed spectacularly in the main card opening fight, I believe Magsayo has a high chance of competing again with Vargas, because several rounds Magsayo almost dominated many chances to win, he has proven the mentality to beat Vargas down although Vargas was finally able to bounce back to dominate in the last few rounds. I'm also really looking forward to the rematch, hoping some boxing news will soon update the good news about the rematch next year.
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The decision is split so there's a chance to have a rematch if the promoter saw a demand from the viewer that ask for it. Magsayo definitely deserves rematch because he is the previous champion and to seal this match to a more convincing result. Personally, I don't like Magsayo due to his attitude and just basic attack moves. But I hope to see him again for a rematch as a support to fellow countryman.
The promoter will analyze the huge profit potential to register a rematch for both boxers who have performed spectacularly in the main card opening fight, I believe Magsayo has a high chance of competing again with Vargas, because several rounds Magsayo almost dominated many chances to win, he has proven the mentality to beat Vargas down although Vargas was finally able to bounce back to dominate in the last few rounds. I'm also really looking forward to the rematch, hoping some boxing news will soon update the good news about the rematch next year.
Probably there’s a demand here since many expect Magsayo will win the title but the result is different, and as we all witnessed it a was great match up and that’s a good reason to have another match. Most probably, Magsayo will fight again to get a belt under his name, this is his first loss and of course not an end of his career, Magsayo will rise again.
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July 10, 2022, 09:58:53 PM
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The decision is split so there's a chance to have a rematch if the promoter saw a demand from the viewer that ask for it. Magsayo definitely deserves rematch because he is the previous champion and to seal this match to a more convincing result. Personally, I don't like Magsayo due to his attitude and just basic attack moves. But I hope to see him again for a rematch as a support to fellow countryman.
The promoter will analyze the huge profit potential to register a rematch for both boxers who have performed spectacularly in the main card opening fight, I believe Magsayo has a high chance of competing again with Vargas, because several rounds Magsayo almost dominated many chances to win, he has proven the mentality to beat Vargas down although Vargas was finally able to bounce back to dominate in the last few rounds. I'm also really looking forward to the rematch, hoping some boxing news will soon update the good news about the rematch next year.
Probably there’s a demand here since many expect Magsayo will win the title but the result is different, and as we all witnessed it a was great match up and that’s a good reason to have another match. Most probably, Magsayo will fight again to get a belt under his name, this is his first loss and of course not an end of his career, Magsayo will rise again.

A re-match is indeed possible to happen so let's see if the two camps will be up for it.
Many are rooting for Magsayo on this match, so I believe a lot were disappointed about the results.
As Magsayo already experienced Vargas inside the ring, he will now know how to strategize the next time around.
Hopefully the re-match will be this year, so they will settle this as early as possible.
Definitely, not the end game for Magsayo. He is still young to give up his boxing career with one loss.
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