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May 22, 2022, 07:09:45 PM |
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It's clear that the gambler has a problem in the first place since he was addicted already plus he is not thru with it yet. Then a simple message from the casino would trigger the feeling of a compulsive gambler and since he can't do anything about it even if he lost more than he can afford to lose. That's why if you have a bad feeling when starting to play gambling trust your guts because that's true. In the long run, you will still be the one who can control yourself.
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May 22, 2022, 08:14:33 PM |
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I really feel bad of this because he must scam his own family. I am sure that he is addicted in gambilng moreover because he seems doesn't care to do crimes, he only wanted money. Does it so sad to know? Btw this kind of crimes because of gambling may be not new. In fact, there may be many more cases lije this oitside but not unveiled by the media. The addicted gamblers will do whatever to get money, even making bad things to their family members. That is why we must be able to manage ourself to not being addicted. But seeing from the case, why the gambling platform does that thing although he at first wanted to quit?
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May 22, 2022, 08:19:34 PM |
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It's clear that the gambler has a problem in the first place since he was addicted already plus he is not thru with it yet. Then a simple message from the casino would trigger the feeling of a compulsive gambler and since he can't do anything about it even if he lost more than he can afford to lose. That's why if you have a bad feeling when starting to play gambling trust your guts because that's true. In the long run, you will still be the one who can control yourself.
Addicted gambler will always be triggered by a small promotions and this one turns to a bad one. Scamming your family is not good at all but I hope his family will still forgive him and help him recover from this addiction. Gambling is really risky, it can make you addict and suffer financially and mentally so if you don’t want to end up like this better to start controlling yourself and just have a budget every time you gamble.
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May 22, 2022, 08:25:38 PM |
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Many people blame sites for better management, but in the end only one player is responsible for the losses of the whole and that is the player himself. It's understandable that he wants to put the blame on gambling sites, but if you're addicted to gambling then you should really go to therapy to help yourself.
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Why you think it’s emotional. No one here scamming the people scamming anyone. They earning hardly and spending little amount for the family and making their own choices for the enjoyment. Nothing is a sad one, you need to do the own earning for your life. Without money, people won’t spend or enjoy. Enjoyments need money, gambling also the part of enjoyment for the gamblers.
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May 22, 2022, 09:15:30 PM |
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The gambler are to blame.... He had the option to go out to get a second job, that would have kept him busy...not having the extra time to gamble... but he decided to rather scam money out of his family and friends and now he wants to shift the blame to the people who offered him the opportunity to gamble. This is typical of the new thinking of people... "Always a victim" .... never taking the responsibility for their actions. We have the freedom to make choices...and he took the wrong option. The gambler is actually the one to be blame. I think he knows in the first place what will happen to him once he falls into addiction, but still he chose to take the wrong option. So he's the one responsible for his own actions and will suffer the consequences on it. Casinos are most likely selfish on their part as they keep on initiating moves to attract players but its how they played the game, they will always create initiatives to fuel the gamblers and let them play on their casinos.
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May 24, 2022, 04:02:21 PM |
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Yes, gamblers should take full responsibility just like shopaholics, alcoholics and other people with addictions. If we start dividing this responsibility between those who advertise (of their product which, when used in reasonable quantities, does no harm) with people who consume it uncontrollably and face unpleasant consequences, we will harm all parties.
Still, gamblers have to be held accountable because it is their risk of becoming addicted. But sadly, not many can realize this and are drawn even deeper into gambling. I think this is a shared responsibility between gamblers, advertisers and casinos but I don't know, it seems that casinos and advertisers keep going without thinking about the fate of gamblers who are addicted to gambling. How can this be done from a practical point of view? For example, you are a casino and an adult player comes to you and plays. What do you need to do to fulfill what you propose? I see some ideas but they are directly against the rights of the player and are an invasion of privacy, etc. I think it's easy to say "you have to be good and think about others" but in practice these ideas are either unrealizable or turn into something terrible (totalitarianism).
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May 24, 2022, 04:13:33 PM |
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Why you think it’s emotional. No one here scamming the people scamming anyone. They earning hardly and spending little amount for the family and making their own choices for the enjoyment. Nothing is a sad one, you need to do the own earning for your life. Without money, people won’t spend or enjoy. Enjoyments need money, gambling also the part of enjoyment for the gamblers.
Some people are successful in implementing management in their lives, maybe from 100% of their income they only use 10% for the pleasures of their life, be it gambling or spending money to have fun with their workmates. However, on the principle of a gambler, this may be difficult to apply if he has experienced an addiction, of course he will continue to gamble even though his financial condition is classified as a crisis.
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Here is the article: https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40875731.html Apparently Boyle Sports manipulated a man is a very sad way where he ended up loosing all the money he scammed from a family member. The man had probelms with Gambling and he tried to stop by closing the account on the website and at the end of the day they saw him stopping but kept sending him mails and at the same time, they apparently sent him a 50$ free betting which at the end ending up to be awful for him since he started it again and ended up loosing all the fortune. The whole things is extremely complex like Some Sherlock Holmes story. The person was not infact gullible since to fuel his gambling addiction he scammed his family member and then went to court and pleaded guilty as well blamed it all on the Boyle Sports. What do you think who was in the wrong ? I think both the bettor and the Boyle Sports were in the wrong. It was established that the two accounts, to which the payments totalling €56,000 were made, were a personal bank account and a Boyle Sports account, both in Thomas O’Connell’s name. The payments varied from €100 to €1000 and averaged at just over €200. “Contact was almost on a daily basis – sometimes a couple of times on a particular day. He admitted that he took €56,000 and impersonated (the solicitor),” Det. Garda Fuller said. O’Connell was actually a client of the solicitor he impersonated. The defendant had a gambling and alcohol addiction. The phone calls and texts – supposedly from the solicitor - to the victim were a work of fiction by 48-year-old Thomas O’Connell who did not stop until he got his hands on every euro of the €56,000 the victim had inherited. This is one of the causes if gambling is one of the worst things in my opinion, the many effects we get in gambling are not only detrimental to ourselves but indirectly these effects can spread to family, friends and even the environment around us, for them those who start gambling may still be easy to quit, but in the case like you said, I think he is an active gambler and it is difficult for him to stop gambling even though he has tried hard enough to stop his addiction.
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May 24, 2022, 10:01:18 PM |
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It's clear that the gambler has a problem in the first place since he was addicted already plus he is not thru with it yet. Then a simple message from the casino would trigger the feeling of a compulsive gambler and since he can't do anything about it even if he lost more than he can afford to lose. That's why if you have a bad feeling when starting to play gambling trust your guts because that's true. In the long run, you will still be the one who can control yourself.
It is a shame that things like this keep happening but this is because people still have the wrong idea when it comes to gambling, if instead of seeing in gambling an easy source of money they just saw it as another from of passing their time then very soon they will realize how betting such a huge amount of money which they cannot afford to lose makes no sense, after all with all of that money you could have done something else that could have brought you more entertainment if used correctly, but since those people not only want to win but also to recover the money they have lost through the years they never consider that alternative view at all.
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May 24, 2022, 10:50:58 PM |
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It's clear that the gambler has a problem in the first place since he was addicted already plus he is not thru with it yet. Then a simple message from the casino would trigger the feeling of a compulsive gambler and since he can't do anything about it even if he lost more than he can afford to lose. That's why if you have a bad feeling when starting to play gambling trust your guts because that's true. In the long run, you will still be the one who can control yourself.
It is a shame that things like this keep happening but this is because people still have the wrong idea when it comes to gambling, if instead of seeing in gambling an easy source of money they just saw it as another from of passing their time then very soon they will realize how betting such a huge amount of money which they cannot afford to lose makes no sense, after all with all of that money you could have done something else that could have brought you more entertainment if used correctly, but since those people not only want to win but also to recover the money they have lost through the years they never consider that alternative view at all. Gambling is still considered negative because there are still many people who have wrong thoughts about gambling. In fact, if gambling is only for entertainment, gambling should not have a negative effect on our lives. The problem is that most people always look for an instant solution if they experience financial problems, and gambling is considered to be a source of income. That's the beginning of people will eventually become addicted, because they will lose large amounts of money, and they will think they can cover the previous loss. In the end, why so many countries consider gambling illegal, because most people have a misunderstanding about gambling. And also there are still very few people who can become responsible gamblers.
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May 24, 2022, 11:34:44 PM |
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-snip- but if you're addicted to gambling then you should really go to therapy to help yourself.
Not every addict realizes they are addicted to gambling, some addicts think it is normal. If you are not aware that you are addicted, how can you go to a therapist or a health expert? The addict needs help, his close people need to remind them that he is already addicted to the gambling activity. Sadly, not all close people want to remind this or give help, some may not really care. So, this problem isn't as simple as you think, it is complicated, dude.
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What do you think who was in the wrong ? I think both the bettor and the Boyle Sports were in the wrong.
Both are indeed wrong but there's no law that could really make out immediate or proper action specially if there would no agreements involved like "self-exclusions" which the user had made out some request for him not to recieve any mails in related with promotions because its totally irresponsible or mistake if they do still sent out despite of such condition or scenario. As a gambling addict then you could do sort of things which it would be mainly affecting on people around you even with your own family which you could really be able to scam out specially if you dont have money to spent through gambling. You are absolutely right, in addiction to games it is very easy to lose control and in less than expected you can see problems with the same family, because what the player wants is to have a lot of money to continue playing because according to him, he has the secret to win, and it is not like that, it is his own addiction, in a tv program I saw as a professional person, a lawyer got his family into trouble, he got into debt and used his parents and siblings to having a lot of money and betting it, of course he lost everything, and when he felt bad he wanted to kill himself, it was because of his brother that he prevented it, however they took him to a clinic and they saved him, because he was poisoned.
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May 25, 2022, 04:42:23 AM |
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-snip- but if you're addicted to gambling then you should really go to therapy to help yourself.
Not every addict realizes they are addicted to gambling, some addicts think it is normal. If you are not aware that you are addicted, how can you go to a therapist or a health expert? The addict needs help, his close people need to remind them that he is already addicted to the gambling activity. Sadly, not all close people want to remind this or give help, some may not really care. So, this problem isn't as simple as you think, it is complicated, dude. Addicts never admits that they are addicted to gambling. They see it as general thing because not only them are betting, but people are also betting. Gambling is really bad for some people who can't control it, rather the more advise they get, the more they play gambling. Some people have full hope there as their means of getting their first million. Gambling is everywhere in the world presently and the number of people addicted are increasing in numbers steadily.
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May 25, 2022, 05:00:30 AM |
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It's clear that the gambler has a problem in the first place since he was addicted already plus he is not thru with it yet. Then a simple message from the casino would trigger the feeling of a compulsive gambler and since he can't do anything about it even if he lost more than he can afford to lose. That's why if you have a bad feeling when starting to play gambling trust your guts because that's true. In the long run, you will still be the one who can control yourself.
It is a shame that things like this keep happening but this is because people still have the wrong idea when it comes to gambling, if instead of seeing in gambling an easy source of money they just saw it as another from of passing their time then very soon they will realize how betting such a huge amount of money which they cannot afford to lose makes no sense, after all with all of that money you could have done something else that could have brought you more entertainment if used correctly, but since those people not only want to win but also to recover the money they have lost through the years they never consider that alternative view at all. And in this case it's even worse, because the addicted gambler didn't cause problems only for himself, but also for his acquainted, who was scammed and lost 56,000€ he received from his mother. Probably this gambler knew about the inheritance received by the other man, and that is why he milked every single penny from him to feed his addiction without worrying if there would be money to repay the "loan" later. It's also shocking the fact this scam lasted for 2 years. It's a lot of time to be scammed in silence without going after the police or suing the borrower.
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May 25, 2022, 05:31:14 AM |
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Many people blame sites for better management, but in the end only one player is responsible for the losses of the whole and that is the player himself. It's understandable that he wants to put the blame on gambling sites, but if you're addicted to gambling then you should really go to therapy to help yourself.
Nobody is willing to help one's self if nobody is making the first move or try to talk to him or at least do something about it to let that person be aware of what he has become. Of course the blame would always go to that subject person who got addicted and lose control of his gambling expenditures, but these gambling websites must also be responsible enough not to drag their clients into the worse form of addiction, otherwise the business is no different than a fraud.
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May 25, 2022, 06:26:05 AM |
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An online casino is an organization created for profit.
This is a commercial organization. The goal of any commercial organization is to make a profit. It's hard for me to blame Boyle Sports for aggressive marketing. All commercial organizations carry out aggressive marketing. Their goal is to realize their entrepreneurial services and make a profit. This is capitalism.
The player must be responsible and careful. Gambling addiction is a big risk. It is unacceptable to impersonate a well-known lawyer. This is classified as a scam.
In this story, the main responsibility lies with the player (IMHO).
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May 25, 2022, 06:32:26 AM Last edit: May 25, 2022, 06:50:04 AM by blatchcorn |
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“Gambling is not about how well you play the games, it’s really about how well you handle your money.” Defiantly the fault lies in the bettor, who kept on betting despite the fact he is continuously losing his money. This is not the first time we came across such horrible story, the gambling world is full of such mishaps. ... they apparently sent him a 50$ free betting which at the end ending up to be awful for him since he started it again and ended up loosing all the fortune. Its not just gambling sites which send you such lucrative offers you see it from almost every sites, for instance, Binance send you offer that do 50$ transactions and you have a chance to win 10$ cash back. We need to think wisely before we fell in such traps.
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May 25, 2022, 07:53:19 AM |
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An online casino is an organization created for profit.
This is a commercial organization. The goal of any commercial organization is to make a profit. It's hard for me to blame Boyle Sports for aggressive marketing. All commercial organizations carry out aggressive marketing. Their goal is to realize their entrepreneurial services and make a profit. This is capitalism.
The player must be responsible and careful. Gambling addiction is a big risk. It is unacceptable to impersonate a well-known lawyer. This is classified as a scam.
In this story, the main responsibility lies with the player (IMHO).
I think when there are people who are familiar with gambling then they will continue to gamble and it is difficult to stop gambling because according to him that way he can get happiness even though it is only a loss that he gets, sometimes rich people gamble just for fun and already understand the consequences.
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May 25, 2022, 09:04:26 AM |
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What do you think who was in the wrong ? I think both the bettor and the Boyle Sports were in the wrong.
Both are indeed wrong but there's no law that could really make out immediate or proper action specially if there would no agreements involved like "self-exclusions" which the user had made out some request for him not to recieve any mails in related with promotions because its totally irresponsible or mistake if they do still sent out despite of such condition or scenario. As a gambling addict then you could do sort of things which it would be mainly affecting on people around you even with your own family which you could really be able to scam out specially if you dont have money to spent through gambling. You are absolutely right, in addiction to games it is very easy to lose control and in less than expected you can see problems with the same family, because what the player wants is to have a lot of money to continue playing because according to him, he has the secret to win, and it is not like that, it is his own addiction, in a tv program I saw as a professional person, a lawyer got his family into trouble, he got into debt and used his parents and siblings to having a lot of money and betting it, of course he lost everything, and when he felt bad he wanted to kill himself, it was because of his brother that he prevented it, however they took him to a clinic and they saved him, because he was poisoned. I have friends who are addicted to games, every day they only focus on playing games and if there is no money they will borrow money from friends and relatives just to be able to play games. People who are addicted to games will no longer focus on work, if for younger students they often skip school and can no longer focus on studying because they are addicted to games.
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