Ban Appeal For naim027. (SOLVED)

[Poker Player]

You didn't say that directly. But check the posts I referred to in my previous posts.

I don't know why you waste your time with him. I have him on ignore but I see what he writes when you quote him.

It is not necessary to say the literal phrase: "Poker Player and naim027 are alts" to accuse us of being alts, and in the quotes you posted anyone can see it. I did very well to put him on my ignore list.

Btw, Your approach seems good than last time. I may review my trust list this week.

Lol. Trying to make friends?

[Dic3L0v3r]

Lol. Trying to make friends?

I don't have anything to lose. What are the benefits of making friends right now?

I guess I am not allowed to post on any other thread or not allowed to create a new thread.

Can Any Mod Lock this thread for me? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394622.0

[suchmoon]

I guess I am not allowed to post on any other thread or not allowed to create a new thread.

You are allowed to post only about your ban appeal. Turning this thread into "dear diary" isn't helping your case, not that it had any chance to begin with.

Can Any Mod Lock this thread for me? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394622.0

Mods clearly aren't reading here. Report the thread to mods the proper way.

[Timelord2067]

How is that connected to me?

Because you supported his claims without further investigation. Later, Mr dkbit98 realized that Poker Player and I are not alts but you didn't change your statement.

I'll ask again:

Where do I say that you and Poker Player are alts?

You didn't say that directly. But check the posts I referred to in my previous posts.

Btw, Your approach seems good than last time. I may review my trust list this week.

In fact I never said it at all.

[Ryu_Ar1]

Now check how much you're cheating here. And are you really respecting the forum by showing this kind of behavior?

Well, I am not sure how it's cheating since after he reported my first post, I told her, "Yes, it was plagiarized, and I just edited the post and added the source link". Is it cheating?
Which kind of behavior are you referring to? I already know which post caused me to be banned. Yes, That was a plagiarized post, and I was unable to edit this post because I forgot if it was plagiarized or not.

i'm quite new in this forum and i still don't fully know all the rules here but if i looked before i was also directed about some rules https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0#post_rules which even the rules were made long before your account is formed, did you intentionally not see or just pretend not to see

On the other hand, I regret this

"Yes, it was plagiarized, and I just edited the post and added the source link".

when you know it's plagiarized you immediately edit so it doesn't sound like a mistake and logically means when no one realizes it's plagiarism means you'll just let it be, right?

[invincible49]

when you know it's plagiarized you immediately edit so it doesn't sound like a mistake and logically means when no one realizes it's plagiarism means you'll just let it be, right?

Since many things this Naim027 guy has been said purely based on hypothesis- I can come up with one such as; I refuse to believe someone who has been very active in casino, gambling on internet and most certainly on Bitcointalk gambling section doesn't know how sites like turnitin or even free online plagiarism checker run or exist! This guy seems to be a drama queen. Accusation against him for merit boosting his alts- He accepted his fault and promised to not do again. Accusation against him for copy pasting- He again getting sentimental supports just because he did correct his mistakes and edited with original sources. Next time what? He scams someone $10 then come again in here and admits his mistake by paying back the victim and let the community forget it? This is ridiculous!

And as a Bangladeshi myself, I can most certainly say whenever some random guys from my country or other countries came to me for suggestions on how to be a member of Bitcointalk after mid 2018- I always told them there are certain rules and then there are unofficial rules for ethical purpose which they have to comply with if they want to maintain their accounts. And first thing I used to tell them is to be productive and not just shitpost in order to get merit if you want rank up. And as far I know most of Bangladeshi are on here because of their friend's recommendation. And in that sense and hypothetically it is beyond my understanding how this guy did not know those basic rules of the forum. Rules of Merit system, plagiarism, cheating a bounty with alts are first thing that Bangladeshi users on here get notified through their community!

I will report this thread to the mods so they lock up this thread for good. Bless you all.

[Dic3L0v3r]

I refuse to believe someone who has been very active in casino, gambling on internet and most certainly on Bitcointalk gambling section doesn't know how sites like turnitin or even free online plagiarism checker run or exist!

Where I have said that I don't know that free plagiarism checkers exist? Stop Twisting my words. Ah, You claim that you are a Bangladeshi, Have you ever seen my post on the Bangladeshi thread? I don't think so. Also, I don't think that you have read my posts in this thread.

Well, Answer me one question. How do you judge someone in the first place? Do you judge someone from his recent activity or Do you judge someone from his previous old activity?

For example,

A guy was a terrorist a few years ago, But after he realizes that he is doing wrong, He becomes normal like others.

Another guy was a very good man and a good student. But, Recently he becomes a terrorist.

Tell me which guy is good and which guy is bad and why?

I have already written many times that I made my return to this forum in October 2021. All mistakes I made in October and November 2021 were my newbie days. After November 2021, I didn't repeat any of them. Not only me, But 90% of newbies don't read the forum rules.

[invincible49]

Where I have said that I don't know that free plagiarism checkers exist? Stop Twisting my words.

I forgot if that was plagiarized or not. I didn't know about free plagiarism tools back then.

Well, Answer me one question. How do you judge someone in the first place? Do you judge someone from his recent activity or Do you judge someone from his previous old activity?

This is not a forum to teach you morality with my personal times and this is certainly not the forum that will lose any sleep over your existing on here or not! Every offender is innocent until he/she is caught then he/she pleads guilty, he/she will also have to face the consequence! Stop giving your illogical argument and do us all a favor! I won't entertain your any more reply on here. Best of luck.

[Dic3L0v3r]

Where have I said that I don't know that free plagiarism checkers exist? Stop Twisting my words.

I forgot if that was plagiarized or not. I didn't know about free plagiarism tools back then.

Stop Pretending like you don't know the meaning of "back then".

Don't try to be a Smart Ass. I am not the only person who broke the forum rules. Many Reputed members had a history of breaking forum rules and being banned, including lovesmayfamilis, Lauda, and many more. I have also noticed that you are a pure trust abuser who leaves useless, inaccurate feedback. It's sad to see that Vod left Positive offset feedback on your profile. Before judging others, Oil your own machine.

[LoyceV]

I will report this thread to the mods so they lock up this thread for good.

That's not how Meta works.

I have also noticed that you are a pure trust abuser who leaves useless, inaccurate feedback.

You shouldn't go off-topic in this thread, it could be considered ban evasion:

25. If you get banned (temporarily or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.

[JollyGood]

Now I see that you understand what it means to see a message about the ban. It's strange to hear the words about your innocence again. You have been warned several times to check all the posts. Could the last post containing plagiarism come from you? I don't believe you again. If a person knows what he writes about, he will not copy it. You didn't check all the posts thinking you were lucky. In addition, I saw another post edited recently.

That makes his defence somewhat difficult because he has been warned several times yet did not stop.

The next step is to ask for a signature ban. Since you surely love the forum, will you love it as well without participating in signature companies?

And how long are you willing to love him without a signature?

In a nutshell, it is all about trying to gain reputation for the sake of having a respectable facade in order to join signature campaigns for all his alt-accounts.

Allowing the ban to be lifted with restrictions placed on him not being allowed to join signature campaigns will only prove what you wrote. Also, if he is unbanned and still can be bothered to post it will probably descend in to an even lower quality post situation since he will not be receiving signature campaign fees.

Damn!
Sad to see you banned, Naim.
I used to know Naim for a quite a long time now because of the service (BTC exchange) I was providing here. I never imagine he could be plagiarized.
Naim was always a great resource for our local board thread. I read almost all his posts in the local board thread and I loved reading all this to be honest.
As LoyceV said, the rules are such that most newbies don't read though personally I would never think of plagiarism anywhere.

I would really love to see you get unbanned or atleast a sign ban for few months. I hope admin will consider.

Another ALT of yours got nuked. Such sad, much WoW. Have you been able to penetrate DT yet?

Those, who are wondering, may like to check my previous post in a locked thread- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5293217.msg55709365#msg55709365

So, the list is now...

mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r

Thank you for the post.

Personally, I was fairly sure 4 of those accounts being connected but would not be surprised about your claim being correct as far as the others are concerned.

In all cases, eventually, the puppeteer operating multiple accounts nearly always gives it away at some point.

I have been busy therefore unable to post in the forum as much as I used to and would like to but when I have time to spare I will take a look at the other names you mentioned. I will try to work out how you made the connection and then see if there is any merit to what you claim but in any case thank you for bringing this up.

Having said that, based on what has been written and presented, I hope the ban stands, the OP and his alt-accounts have no sympathy from me. I think the forum member I have the most similar thinking to on the subject matter is lovesmayfamilis. Also, I can understand the tough stance taken by invincible49.

[shasan]

If he really doesn't know the forum rules to add original sources, why he can add the rules before November 19, 2021?

Any one applied a rules doesn't mean the person was aware of the rules. I had copied a post at the starting of the forum but I was not aware about the  punishment and latter or before I have not copied any posts. That doesn't mean I copied the posts knowingly while I had few previous posts which wasn't copied. Everyone on the forum are not aware about the forum rules only few percentage of the people are aware about the forum rules.

3. Self admitting a complete newbie with his alt on March 26, 2022. How can someone already earn 500+ with his main account, claiming he's a newbie?

If s/he was fluent about the forum rule then s/he didn't violate the rule and could avoid the ban. As s/he aren't fluent about all the forum rule s/he is a newbie even I think I am still a newbie as I am learning a lot from the forum time to time.

This person is a merit seeker to participate signature campaign

Why you are posting on the forum? Only to help the community???

The reason why you're stopped to expose bounty cheaters because it doesn't guarantee you to earn merit, creating useless stats is more easier and each stats you created always earn merit. That's why you're still continue your useless stats and stopped to hunt bounty cheaters.

I have not yet gone his/her post history but yes I have seen several posts on the Bengali thread where I have seen s/he is helpful for the community. Anyway, is s/he received merit on all of his/her posts? What is the percentage of receiving merit on the bengali topics and what is the percentage of the merit of his/her bounty cheater exposed post/posts? Do, you not think you are trying to attack personally? What is the benefit of you/us if anyone become ban from the community? Do, you think s/he is not contribute anything on the forum? He made a loss  of the community or anysite whose content s/he used unknowingly about the forum rules? Anyway, I had opened this topic as I have received notification on the telegram and trying to reply base on your post (your post is random  of my search) please do not take it personally.

I think S/he will not be unbanned as I was banned for two years for the mistake of my starting and it wasn't reduce. But base on the contribution of him/her for the community I think s/he should be unbanned or atleast the punishment should be reduced.

[Poker Player]

Another ALT of yours got nuked. Such sad, much WoW. Have you been able to penetrate DT yet?

Those, who are wondering, may like to check my previous post in a locked thread- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5293217.msg55709365#msg55709365

So, the list is now...

mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r

Did he really have all these alts? I am not going to study the case but I do want to comment that I think this is another case of the many we see in the forum that end up banned for being in a hurry and wanting to cheat when they have the ability to earn a decent income without cheating.

I think that if he had not cheat he could have kept at least a couple of alts without exchanging merits, without plagiarizing and without joining the same campaign and he would earn much more than the average salary in Bangladesh. That's not counting if he already had a job there.

On naim027's account alone he was collecting 30% more of the average salary in Bangladesh.

I don't know, maybe it's poverty or something cultural that drives many of these people to break the rules when they could legitimately earn a decent income.

But that was just for writing 25 posts. And he wasn't even Hero member yet. Reaching Hero member and with an alt in Sr member in another similar paid campaign he could have earned about $600-700 a month when the average salary in Bangladesh is about $200 (source: google).

But of course, this requires patience and above all integrity.

[invincible49]

Did he really have all these alts?

I know for a fact that there was this guy who was caught by me had like 20+ high ranked accounts (I failed to get evidences for a few of his alts), all enrolled in highly paid signature campaigns, content creation competitions. He had all the times in the world laying in his hostel bed to create topics like how market will do in this and that situation, which one is the best alts to hodl, exploiting the bad situation in various European countries during COVID specially Italy and he was making like ten grands per months. Narcissists like that do exist among us just because of their mental illness.

Another ALT of yours got nuked. Such sad, much WoW. Have you been able to penetrate DT yet?
Those, who are wondering, may like to check my previous post in a locked thread- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5293217.msg55709365#msg55709365

So, the list is now...
mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r

It is not always obvious and accurate proofs that lead an investigator to find connection between cheating alts. Most of the times to catch a single guy who is very clever one, you need assumptions to make you interest about the person which then leads you to dig deeper. In your case you might not be wrong. From judging by all the mentioned accounts posts and hours of reading their contents, I have a very good guess that here we have a guy with all those alts might have histrionic personality disorder! Just for the sake of simple example;



There was literally no need for that personal text! 

[Poker Player]

I know for a fact that there was this guy who was caught by me had like 20+ high ranked accounts (I failed to get evidences for a few of his alts), all enrolled in highly paid signature campaigns, content creation competitions.

LOL. I find that hard to believe. Is there a thread where you expose them? If there really were 20 accounts or more connected it should be a farm more than a single guy, otherwise I think it's impossible. That person, if it was just one, would have to write 80+ quality posts a day to get paid in the campaigns.

I don't know, I think that even 3 or 4 alts, or 5 if you don't have another job can be managed by one person, but more is impossible.

In this case:  Long-time sig campaign farm ID'd via single wallet transaction I think it was an exceptional case, there were 3 accounts in the same sig campaign but only in 2 of them managed to write 50 posts per week and the third one didn't manage to do it. Let's say that the third one wrote an average of 25 posts, that would be like managing 5 accounts in sig campaigns that pay for a maximum of 25 posts. And in this case we understand that writing in the forum was a full time job, so it seems unlikely to manage more than 6 or 7 accounts by just one person.

[Dic3L0v3r]

Did he really have all these alts?

Well, I wouldn't be surprised if they say

So, the list is now...

mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r = Poker Player (You were already accused before)= The Pharmacist = LoyceV = shahzadafzal (Because a few of them supported me) LOL.

I think that if he had not cheat he could have kept at least a couple of alts without exchanging merits, without plagiarizing and without joining the same campaign and he would earn much more than the average salary in Bangladesh. That's not counting if he already had a job there.

I really feel bad now that you didn't believe yet what I have said before. I have exchanged merit, and I have plagiarized, But all this happened in a few weeks which were my newbie days. Everyone didn't start as a pro. Neither I. Which one are you considering as a lie? This one?



To be honest, Maybe I read a few lines or not, I cannot remember. I guess that was a shitpost from me. After this post, I was inactive for another six months and after that, I made my final return in October 2021.

On naim027's account alone he was collecting 30% more of the average salary in Bangladesh.
the average salary in Bangladesh is about $200 (source: google).

I can't stop laughing when I see people talking about my salary. I saw that this was discussed on another thread too and Rikafip also joined there.

Well, Some of you may know or not know that I work for a casino platform as a Support agent Cum Chat Moderator, and I am already getting about more than 6x from the average salary in Bangladesh. That's from my main Job. I also do Telegram Chat Moderation for a start-up platform and get a good amount from there. I have some GPU mining rigs which generate a good amount for me (Mining profitability lowered drastically now). I do gamble a lot in different casinos (You may notice me on the Blackjack leaderboard). That's not the income source but sometimes I get a good amount from gambling. I also do volunteer jobs for a charity organization. Taking care of an Old woman with my personal fund. @MahdiRakib Donated twice. Recently I opened a Lending service to boost up my work (It didn't help much). I feel a bit sad because @MahdiRakib knows a lot about me and I asked him to respond to this thread. But, Either he is too busy or doesn't want to get distrusted by someone who started removing everyone from the trust list if they say something positive about me. It's absurd to talk about my salary here since this is mainly for my unban appeal. Sorry if I am moving off-topic but I had to clear up some things.

I know for a fact that there was this guy who was caught by me had like 20+ high ranked accounts (I failed to get evidences for a few of his alts), all enrolled in highly paid signature campaigns, content creation competitions.

LOL. I find that hard to believe.

Did you forget how you becomes my alt? Everything is possible in this forum.
I don't have to plagiarize in order to earn merit. That has happened just because I really didn't know the rules. If I knew the rules, Why I would take such a risk? If you check my last two-month merit history, You will understand why and from where I got merits.

[Solosanz]

Everyone on the forum are not aware about the forum rules only few percentage of the people are aware about the forum rules.

When I found his first plagiarized post, then he already know the rules right? Why he not checked all his posts? the reason why he got banned high likely because I found his another post he plagiarized.

As s/he aren't fluent about all the forum rule s/he is a newbie even I think I am still a newbie as I am learning a lot from the forum time to time.

It's really hard to understand forum rules? You're only need to understand to not plagiarism, that's all. The other rules e.g. post in a row, bump old post without add any value etc will be corrected by moderators, then you will learn after you realized that.

Why you are posting on the forum? Only to help the community???

I never said I'm against signature campaign, look this

I don't blame someone want to participate a campaign in this forum to earn more money, but using this way in order to participate a campaign is really DIRTY

I have not yet gone his/her post history but yes I have seen several posts on the Bengali thread where I have seen s/he is helpful for the community. Anyway, is s/he received merit on all of his/her posts? What is the percentage of receiving merit on the bengali topics and what is the percentage of the merit of his/her bounty cheater exposed post/posts?

I don't want to waste my time to count all of his merits, but everyone can see which board/thread he mostly got his merit

Do, you not think you are trying to attack personally?

No, I'm not, constructive criticism is different with personal attack without any proof.

What is the benefit of you/us if anyone become ban from the community?

We don't need a shitposter who only looking to earn money in this forum.

I think S/he will not be unbanned as I was banned for two years for the mistake of my starting and it wasn't reduce. But base on the contribution of him/her for the community I think s/he should be unbanned or atleast the punishment should be reduced.

I have go through your posts history and I'm also agree you shouldn't get permanent banned due to contribution, you and him are completely different person. He did a tiny contribution, but most of his posts isn't. The most important thing is completely liar, can you trust a liar? I stand by my point to not give any reduction to his ban able offense.

mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r = Poker Player (You were already accused before)= The Pharmacist = LoyceV = shahzadafzal (Because a few of them supported me) LOL.

Do you think it's good to accuse someone without any proof?
You're accusing The Pharmacist, LoyceV, and shahzadafzal are controlled by one person, moreover both of those accounts participated in the same campaign. I have no idea why you can make this connection.

and I am already getting about more than 6x from the average salary in Bangladesh. That's from my main Job. I also do Telegram Chat Moderation for a start-up platform and get a good amount from there. I have some GPU mining rigs which generate a good amount for me (Mining profitability lowered drastically now). I do gamble a lot in different casinos (You may notice me on the Blackjack leaderboard). That's not the income source but sometimes I get a good amount from gambling. I also do volunteer jobs for a charity organization. Taking care of an Old woman with my personal fund. @MahdiRakib Donated twice. Recently I opened a Lending service to boost up my work (It didn't help much). I feel a bit sad because @MahdiRakib knows a lot about me and I asked him to respond to this thread. But, Either he is too busy or doesn't want to get distrusted by someone who started removing everyone from the trust list if they say something positive about me.

I will summarize:
6x average salary for the main job
Good amount salary as a chat moderator
Also good amount from mining
Also good amount from gambling

Signature campaign only earn around $300/month, I don't know the specific number you earn, but I don't believe if you have earn so much money, you're really want to get the $300/month since you're always got $1200/month as a stable income.

You will understand why and from where I got merits.

From useless stats and gaining attention or mentioning the merit source on every your posts.

[Poker Player]

Signature campaign only earn around $300/month, I don't know the specific number you earn, but I don't believe if you have earn so much money, you're really want to get the $300/month since you're always got $1200/month as a stable income.

Here I think you are wrong, my friend, as I earn a lot more than $1200 a month and I am in a signature campaigns earning $400 a month. Everything adds up, and even more if it means getting paid for an activity such as contributing to forums that I did for free for a long time. It is not an extra effort for me.

[Dic3L0v3r]

Signature campaign only earn around $300/month, I don't know the specific number you earn, but I don't believe if you have earn so much money, you're really want to get the $300/month since you're always got $1200/month as a stable income.

I have never seen such a Dick-head logic before. Elon musk should shut down SpaceX, and Tesla and enjoy life because he already has enough.

We don't need a shitposter who only looking to earn money in this forum

Oh really? Then why not ban all the bounty hunters if you have the power? Dick head hypocrite.
Well, I am locking this thread since the useless discussion about what I have earned from this forum and about my salary is not going to help my case. I guess moderators can unlock the thread anytime if they want to respond. I will bump this thread every few weeks.

[TrustedTrader]

So, the list is now...
mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r

Seriously?

Ever since mdayonliner's drama I've been wondering: what are the odds of so many Bangladesh locals following a similar pattern? But that's not enough to link accounts.

Diving into the historical data of trust list, trust sent/received & merit sent/received may give you some pointer.

Thank you for the post.

Personally, I was fairly sure 4 of those accounts being connected but would not be surprised about your claim being correct as far as the others are concerned.

In all cases, eventually, the puppeteer operating multiple accounts nearly always gives it away at some point.

I have been busy therefore unable to post in the forum as much as I used to and would like to but when I have time to spare I will take a look at the other names you mentioned. I will try to work out how you made the connection and then see if there is any merit to what you claim but in any case thank you for bringing this up.

Welcome.