Ban Appeal For naim027. (SOLVED)

[Dic3L0v3r]

Guys, I am here again. For those, Who don't know why I was banned; I was banned for plagiarism.

I have PM'ed theymos, Cyrus and another Mod about this thread. Allow me to quote OP again here for more visibility. I am also going to quote some positive comments from other members about me. If you know me, Feel free to share your opinion about my ban.

Hi Community. I am naim027 on my alts.

I hope everyone doing well. As you guys know, I got banned permanently, but I keep getting notifications from the Telegram bot, and I am watching discussions about myself.

I have already stated that I did that a few more times without knowing the rules (see the quote).

Well, I don't have an explanation on this matter. But, As far as I remember, Not only this, but I did this a few more times without knowing the rules (As I have already said that those few weeks were my newbie days). Later someone from the WO thread warned me about this that I cannot share an article (or a part of the article) if I am not an original author. Later I edited the post and added the source link. Maybe this is one of these and I haven't edited this one (Added source now). So this is my responsibility. Good catch BTW.


Edit: I just found that post that psycodad and LoyceV was guiding me to not post articles/part of articles without source:

For bitcoin, upside momentum continues to slow on the daily price chart, suggesting continued profit-taking among buyers. And the relative strength index (RSI) on the daily chart is not yet oversold, which provides scope for further downside in BTC over the short-term.

The 100-day moving average, currently around $53,000, could attract buyers similar to late September, which preceded a price recovery.

For now, intraday charts appear deeply oversold. This means buyers could defend immediate support around $56,000, albeit briefly given strong overhead resistance on the charts.

Please be careful posting full identical sentences from i.e. Coindesk as if they were your own statements, it's called plagiarism and highly frowned upon around here:

LoyceV also mentioned me at that time:

I am not original author at Coindesk. Is it forbidden to share the news here?

Plagiarism will get you banned. You should edit your posts and add the source (link) to all of them.
Even if you don't get banned for plagiarism now, it can happen years later.

LoyceV asked me to edit my posts and add the sources. I have edited a few posts, but I could not edit all of them because I forgot if they were copied or not. psycodad and LoyceV warned me on October 19-2021. After that, I never plagiarized. Before November 19-2021, I made a maximum of 70(+-) posts. The post they reported was before this date. So, My question for the community is, How still I am a liar while I never plagiarized after November-19-2021?

Here is another reason they call me a liar. Once I commented on the Unofficial rules thread, I said, "I found this page, and this is helpful."
To be honest, that was a shitpost to increase the post count. This post was my 12th post in this forum. After this post, I was not there for another six months.

So, at this moment, I feel shy to create a ban appeal thread just because the community already believes that I am a liar.

I don't know why people are so aggressive at me. I didn't poke at anyone's balls.
I cannot express my feelings by writing. But, this is not good for me. I am trying to take a break. But, This forum has become part of my daily life.

Last words: I don't know why people still say I am lying after I answered every question. A single man cannot be good in everyone's eyes. There is no one in this forum who can vouch for me because I didn't make any good relationships with anyone. I apologize for what I have done before. I also apologize to those who were getting rude behavior from me (if anyone). I am requesting Moderators to review my case and take an action if possible.

Username: naim027

Regards!
Naim027

Once again, I am willing to accept a sig ban for a year or more. Will appreciated if they reduce the punishment.

You're missing the point: read theymos' quote again. What good have you offered the forum, and what good can you offer in the future?

Well, That's a hard question for me I guess. I am not a guy with an extraordinary talent like n0nce. I am an average person.

The good thing I did (In my opinion)-

• I helped newbies answering several questions on my local board thread (would be great if someone from my local thread can confirm) (post 1, Post 2, Post 3, Post 4, Post 5, Post 6, Post 7, Post 8
• Exposed some bounty cheaters (Later stopped because I realized they keep creating new accounts. Someone said I left some useless feedback) Post 1, Post 2 Post 3 Post 4, Post 5, Post 6 Post 7, Post 8,
• Tried to help others with some information (Midas Sticks Investigation 1) (Midas Sticks Scam Final Report)
• Exposed some scams website (Cloud Mining Scam, Binance Doge Scam
• Removed some Video content that promote scams with the help of forum members

For now, What I can promise,

• I won't break any forum rules in the future.
• I will help others in every possible way I can.
• Guide newbies from my experience
• I can help others with GPU mining (The only field where I am a bit veteran)

I am not sure if that's enough. But, all I can do is help others in every possible way.

Oh wow, I had no idea there was this drama surrounding you, naim027.  I still don't really know what all the details are aside from what was written in this thread, but you did a great job sniffing out the Midas USB stick scam since I wasn't able to due to the language barrier I was up against.

Whether your ban is just or not, I happen to believe you're not here just to drop shitposts for whatever sig campaign or bounty you're in.  I'm sure that's probably a factor (as it is for most members participating in either of those), but based on the interactions I've had with you I don't think you're the type of member who needs to plagiarize material in order to post.  Whether you really did plagiarize is another story, and that's between you and the moderators now.

I do wish you luck, and if you've learned your lesson and truly haven't lied as you've been accused of doing, you've got my support.

I am not aware you are in this naim027, I have seen your alias in several places in this forum, I can say you are an active member.
I have these to say in your case;

• One fastest means I use to determine a quality poster is the calibre of members that merited the user. If your merit fans span across reputable forum users, I will believe you are a quality poster. I came to this conclusion because it is easy for a quality poster to discover a quality post. In your merit fans I saw The Pharmacist,  LFC_Bitcoin, Ratimov, Fillippone, LoyceV, El duderino_, hugeblack among others, Welsh, Pmalek, Poker player,  foxpup, Lovesmayfamilis, Royse777 etc. I am sorry if this doesn't make sense to some persons.

• I sense that you are sincere in your statement as you had some data in your claims. You could easily be called a liar here because no one knows your real life personality. If you are not, don't allow it bother you much. You mentioned that a time came you didn't know the difference between your posts and the ones you plagiarised after LoyceV called your attention to it.
  I can say that your statement is correct as I already discussed something similar in my thread Why people plagiarise in the forum and how to avoid plagiarism.

  HOW TO AVOID PLAGIARISM:
  
  5. Don't post immediately after a research:
  Ensure you don't post immediately exiting a research room. If you do, you might likely find it difficult to differentiate your personal ideas and the ones gotten from research that needs to be cited.

  .
  This can be difficult for a newbie who doesn't know about plagiarism tools
  
• Finally, I cannot say whether the plagiarism committed by you was in the quest to make money. I also pray that the moderators should revisit your case and see if there is a way to help you out or mitigate your punishment.

There is no one in this forum who can vouch for me because I didn't make any good relationships with anyone.

I was touched by this statement of yours, because what you are into can happen to anyone. Well, you don't need to be in any kind of personal  relationship with anyone before you could be vouched for. Just try not to be hostile to the community and anyone could vouch for you, just like what I'm doing now. Though a reputable member has done it above before me. I wish you success.

Damn!
Sad to see you banned, Naim.
I used to know Naim for a quite a long time now because of the service (BTC exchange) I was providing here. I never imagine he could be plagiarized.
Naim was always a great resource for our local board thread. I read almost all his posts in the local board thread and I loved reading all this to be honest.
As LoyceV said, the rules are such that most newbies don't read though personally I would never think of plagiarism anywhere.

I would really love to see you get unbanned or atleast a sign ban for few months. I hope admin will consider.

O my dear... another one Gone with the Wind... I did not notice you are gone.

I had some interaction with you in our local thread and in WO too and I admit that your posts there are always very construction and informative and really appreciate your work you did in our local thread while calculating stats.

You are not alone in this situation, well mostly its new comers who fall in this situation but you are not junior member any more, along with you another member NoorulHuda is in similar situation... we should remember with higher positions, comes more responsibility.

I have registered in this forum back in 2017. But, I wasn't active here. In 2021, I made my return but I wasn't aware of the merit system. One day I saw a guy merited my post on October 16 2021 and I become a Jr. member. So, I slowly started becoming active. I was wondering how can I get quick merit. I copied some sources from the internet and posted them in this forum. Back then, I didn't know the rules until LoyceV and psycodad told me on WO thread. That was November 19-2021. After that, I edited my few posts and added the sources. but, I was unable to edit it all because I forgot which one I copied.

I guess below is your WO post you are talking about and LoyceV  was the one who remined you about this... and yes it was in November 2021 and and look at the words of LoyceV (he's not a bot... he's God.... please tell us when BTC will be $100k?)

I am not original author at Coindesk. Is it forbidden to share the news here?

Plagiarism will get you banned. You should edit your posts and add the source (link) to all of them.
Even if you don't get banned for plagiarism now, it can happen years later.

Thank you very much. I never knew that. I shared few more posts from the news website. I mentioned the website name at the end. No one even suggested me anything.

BTW, Anything happens for good reasons.
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Based on your above comments "No one even suggested me anything" I think you deserve a chance. It's true on internet many user take the pilgrims very lightly unless get trapped in it.

I have not yet gone his/her post history but yes I have seen several posts on the Bengali thread where I have seen s/he is helpful for the community. Anyway, is s/he received merit on all of his/her posts? What is the percentage of receiving merit on the bengali topics and what is the percentage of the merit of his/her bounty cheater exposed post/posts? Do, you not think you are trying to attack personally? What is the benefit of you/us if anyone become ban from the community? Do, you think s/he is not contribute anything on the forum? He made a loss  of the community or anysite whose content s/he used unknowingly about the forum rules? Anyway, I had opened this topic as I have received notification on the telegram and trying to reply base on your post (your post is random  of my search) please do not take it personally.

I think S/he will not be unbanned as I was banned for two years for the mistake of my starting and it wasn't reduce. But base on the contribution of him/her for the community I think s/he should be unbanned or atleast the punishment should be reduced.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I know there's a lot of drama surrounding this ban appeal, and I'm not going to deny that what naim027 did looks suspicious beyond all doubt.  He reminds me in a way of mdayonliner (and a couple others whose names I've long since forgotten), who was here trying to build a reputation quickly and trying to bond with long-time members for whatever purpose.  But for some reason I don't think naim027 came here to scam anyone, and I also think if his ban were to be lifted he most likely wouldn't plagiarize again.  One would have to be an outright moron to do that after being caught doing it and then put under the microscope like naim027 was.

He might well have been here to earn some money through sig campaigns, but in my interactions with him he went above and beyond what a typical sig campaign shitposter would do--and I'm referring to the Midas USB thing I referenced earlier in this thread.  My vote is still for Theymos to give him a second chance, for whatever that's worth.  He knows he fucked up, even if he's being defensive about it

Just my $0.02 in favor of lifting his ban.

[P2PECS]

What is not clear to me is where is the line that divides being punished for plagiarism or not, because apparently you can copy up to 7 times without being banned.

I say this not so much because of Dic3L0v3r , since it seems that his ban is fair, and it is not clear to me if he should be pardoned in some way, but because I don't quite understand the other case.

[Upgrade00]

What is not clear to me is where is the line that divides being punished for plagiarism or not...

I can't argue on the case you linked, but plagiarism are handled on a case by case basis and not a straight forward rule. Since, it is real humans moderating the forum, they would decide based on their personal perception of the situation, and some guidelines which theymos has now and again posted around the forum. Things like;
• The intent behind the post,
• The previous positive contributions of the user,
• Whether or not the post was incentivises, e.g, if the user is wearing a paid signature, etc.
It's also possible that a reported case has not yet been attended to by a mod.

I say this not so much because of <snip>

I always read the name as DiceLover

[P2PECS]

I say this not so much because of Dicklover

I always read the name as DiceLover

Sorry about that, I've edited the name to Dic3L0v3r.

[JollyGood]

What happens when a user receive a ban for plagiarism, do the moderators comment on every single temporary or permanent ban with a justification or explanation?

I think it is clear sometimes what we might perceive to be worthy of a temporary or permanent ban or even not worthy to be classified as plagiarism could be the opposite of what the moderators conclude because they are privy to more information than us.

What is not clear to me is where is the line that divides being punished for plagiarism or not, because apparently you can copy up to 7 times without being banned.

I say this not so much because of Dic3L0v3r , since it seems that his ban is fair, and it is not clear to me if he should be pardoned in some way, but because I don't quite understand the other case.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I read the entire thread. F***, I really did!

While I was reading the understandings were swinging very quick. One moment it went to the right, another moment to the left then front then back. When I finally decided to stick with back then something else pulled me to the top and then some other things dropped me to the bottom.

Can't we let the admin to handle it? If anyone was doing anything good to this topic then it was invincible49.

I will report this thread to the mods so they lock up this thread for good. Bless you all.

The rest are confusing. It's so confusing as F*** that I still don't know if OP should have been given a chance. As some other suggested I will suggest the same, give him a chance. As punishment take his signature space away for 2 years.

Lock this thread and bump it periodically.

[wtsimis]

The whole thing is now little confusing. But at the end, that naim027 was not a shitposter, though he made some mistakes. But I can't deny his works in our  local board thread. He always helped as well as inspired newbies. In fact, he helped me several times with giving some advise.
namin027 build a good reputation but now feeling sad to see the man being banned. It's been long time for his ban, and also he is clarifying his mistakes. It'll be great for rethink about his ban.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Can't we let the admin to handle it? If anyone was doing anything good to this topic then it was invincible49.

I will report this thread to the mods so they lock up this thread for good. Bless you all.

The rest are confusing.

They will handle it as they see fit, or they'll ignore it and let the ban stand as it is--but it is common for threads like these to have members give their support or criticism for the person who got banned.  I think that's how it should be, since it might influence the moderators' decisions.  There was a prominent member of the Collectibles section who got their ban overturned because of that (and their name is escaping me, but it's on the tip of my tongue).

Generally, shitposters and/or members who haven't contributed much to the forum won't get any support whatsoever.  In those cases, it gives the mods a good idea that the member should remain banned, especially if they start making up all sorts of bullshit and excuses, promises, outbursts of anger, etc.  It's rare that other members stick up for a plagiarist, but personally I think people can change and people who've broken that particular rule but have otherwise been a postitive contributor to the forum ought to at least have their case reconsidered.

What happens when a user receive a ban for plagiarism, do the moderators comment on every single temporary or permanent ban with a justification or explanation?

Of course they don't--especially when the banned member is your typical bounty-hunting shitposter.  That isn't the case with naim027 IMO.  Anyway, we'll see what happens.

[Pmalek]

What happens when a user receive a ban for plagiarism, do the moderators comment on every single temporary or permanent ban with a justification or explanation?

They rarely do that, but there have been cases where some of the more active mods have posted explaining why the person was banned. In some cases they would even quote the post/posts that got them banned. There really is no way to tell why they decide to comment in some threads and remain quiet in others. When a local Croatian board member got banned, we tried to lift his ban for almost 2 years. In all that time, I don't remember the admins commenting or saying anything in the thread until the ban was lifted one day and the only post was from the mod who unbanned the user. He simply said that the user is now unbanned and end of story. I think that was hilariousandco.

[LoyceV]

I know there's a lot of drama surrounding this ban appeal, and I'm not going to deny that what naim027 did looks suspicious beyond all doubt.  He reminds me in a way of mdayonliner (and a couple others whose names I've long since forgotten), who was here trying to build a reputation quickly and trying to bond with long-time members for whatever purpose.

Do you mean this list?

So, the list is now...
mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r

Seriously?

Ever since mdayonliner's drama I've been wondering: what are the odds of so many Bangladesh locals following a similar pattern? But that's not enough to link accounts.

I don't think all of them are alts, but it wouldn't surprise me if some of them are.

There was a prominent member of the Collectibles section who got their ban overturned because of that (and their name is escaping me, but it's on the tip of my tongue).

That was ChiBitCTy.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Do you mean this list?

Nah, I saw that list and I really don't think naim027 is one of mdayonliner's alts.  Could I be wrong?  Absolutely; I've been fooled many times in the past.  But naim027's reputation-building behavior wasn't quite as blatant as mdayonliner's--and sure, he could have toned it down to try to avoid detection, but my gut is telling me that isn't the case.  

I don't buy that list as a whole, either.  Especially RapTarX being in it.

That was ChiBitCTy.

Yes!  Thank you.  That was a situation where there was massive support for a ban being lifted, and it obviously influenced Theymos or the mods, or whoever's responsible for lifting bans.  To those of you who aren't aware, they can be reversed and each case is different.

[JollyGood]

That was what I was thinking, the moderators are not under any obligation to provide explanations when either temporarily or permanently banning a member. I think I have only seen one instance (not the one you referred to in the Croatian board) where a moderator might have made a comment but they do not give a running commentary.

Rightly or otherwise, moderators are not under any obligation to elaborate to others when banning but they do informed the recipient of the reason along with the length of time. I do think there have been and will be cases where members will question a ban but if moderators are not under obligation it will take a huge effort to try to get them to comment.

What happens when a user receive a ban for plagiarism, do the moderators comment on every single temporary or permanent ban with a justification or explanation?

They rarely do that, but there have been cases where some of the more active mods have posted explaining why the person was banned. In some cases they would even quote the post/posts that got them banned. There really is no way to tell why they decide to comment in some threads and remain quiet in others. When a local Croatian board member got banned, we tried to lift his ban for almost 2 years. In all that time, I don't remember the admins commenting or saying anything in the thread until the ban was lifted one day and the only post was from the mod who unbanned the user. He simply said that the user is now unbanned and end of story. I think that was hilariousandco.

[Igebotz]

I read the entire thread. F***, I really did!

While I was reading the understandings were swinging very quick. One moment it went to the right, another moment to the left then front then back. When I finally decided to stick with back then something else pulled me to the top and then some other things dropped me to the bottom.

Can't we let the admin to handle it? If anyone was doing anything good to this topic then it was invincible49.

They've already dealt with it! However, some people(me) still believe that such a beautiful journey ended too soon, so they are pleading with the admin to temper justice with mercy on behalf of the OP. He admitted he was wrong and begged forgiveness, saying it could happen to anyone. I oppose plagiarism, but it does occur from time to time due to human error.

The rest are confusing. It's so confusing as F*** that I still don't know if OP should have been given a chance. As some other suggested I will suggest the same, give him a chance. As punishment take his signature space away for 2 years.

It is incorrect to condition forgiveness!! If my memory serves me correctly, I believe lovemaysfalilies was the last user to receive such a hash punishment. We had two unbanned ceases earlier this year with no consequences. Let's not make his life any harder than it already is. Just my 0.004 cent, which is twice what The pharmacist offers

Lock this thread and bump it periodically.

Lol. This is not a service thread. Lady

There was a prominent member of the Collectibles section who got their ban overturned because of that (and their name is escaping me, but it's on the tip of my tongue).

Always leaving home work behind!!! Haha

[LoyceV]

That was ChiBitCTy.

Yes!  Thank you.  That was a situation where there was massive support for a ban being lifted, and it obviously influenced Theymos or the mods, or whoever's responsible for lifting bans.  To those of you who aren't aware, they can be reversed and each case is different.

I think the ChiBitCTy case was the one that lead to a change in the plagiarism policy, giving established members a chance to get unbanned.

Just my $0.02 in favor of lifting his ban.

Just my 0.004 cent, which is twice what The pharmacist offers

Your math sucks The Pharmacist offered 500 times more.

[JollyGood]

Well, there are consequences for breaking rules. If someone as forgiving as yourself was a moderator things would be different here 

The way I see it, he is seeking an unban because he is missing out on the signature campaign income thus the desperation, however this might not be a simple case of plagiarism because we do not know what the moderators know. Add to that allegations of alt-accounts, there could be more to this than we know.

They've already dealt with it! However, some people(me) still believe that such a beautiful journey ended too soon, so they are pleading with the admin to temper justice with mercy on behalf of the OP. He admitted he was wrong and begged forgiveness, saying it could happen to anyone. I oppose plagiarism, but it does occur from time to time due to human error.

[Igebotz]

Well, there are consequences for breaking rules. If someone as forgiving as yourself was a moderator things would be different here 

Without a doubt! I forgave my cheating girlfriend twice, and we are now happily married with two beautiful children! That is the advantage of forgiveness; it works both ways! I've seen schoolchildren shooters and murderers given second chances, but we should crucify every plagiarist on a simple engine forum . I'll eat my tongue if you show me any unbanned user who turned into a jerk after being given a second chance.

The way I see it, he is seeking an unban because he is missing out on the signature campaign income thus the desperation

Another reason the poor man should be let loose: the kids need to eat, right? Life on the other side of the world is not always greener.

however this might not be a simple case of plagiarism because we do not know what the moderators know. Add to that allegations of alt-accounts, there could be more to this than we know.

And what's wrong with the mod/Admin showing up and saying, "Hey, bitches, he did this, this, and that, and that's why we're not unbanning him?" Close the thread and walk?

Just my $0.02 in favor of lifting his ban.

Just my 0.004 cent, which is twice what The pharmacist offers

Your math sucks The Pharmacist offered 500 times more.

Hey, Switzerland! If a student is dull, blame the school! It breaks my heart to think that I spent 5 years studying engineering mathematics only to come here and fail a simple math problem. It sucks 

[icopress]

I will quote my feedback.

Dic3L0v3r

22-07-04

Reference

Naim027 gave me back the btc he received by mistake. The amount of risk does not exceed 100 dollars, but nevertheless, he did not have the slightest reason to return the funds to me since his main account was banned. Definitely deserves a second chance.

He could easily create a new account and not tell anyone about it, and he could keep the money for himself. But he didn't.

That's enough for me to know that this guy deserves a second chance.

[Poker Player]

I wasn't going to write here, but after the recent comments I will give my opinion.

The ban is more than justified. At first it was known that he had plagiarized and he was not banned. And it was shortly after, when the evidence was accumulating and he was caught in contradictions that he was banned.

Personally, I don't care if he is given a second chance or not, but in favor of those who advocate giving him one, I think Ratimov is right.

Bans for plagiarism are perceived by the community as somewhat arbitrary. That people are banned on a case to case basis gives an impression of subjectivity that is not very rigorous, and that is perceived as rather lenient lately.

Naim027 gave me back the btc he received by mistake. The amount of risk does not exceed 100 dollars, but nevertheless, he did not have the slightest reason to return the funds to me since his main account was banned. Definitely deserves a second chance....

He could easily create a new account and not tell anyone about it, and he could keep the money for himself. But he didn't.

That's enough for me to know that this guy deserves a second chance.

I disagree with this reasoning, my friend. If he paid you back when he was already banned, he knew that paying you back could already help his case, as it has. About $75-100 is what he was making in a week posting on the forum. To me, it seems like a pretty profitable investment to give back about $100 to get unbanned soon and make $100 a week.

In any case, if he is to be given a second chance, I would not be in a hurry to give it to him. It doesn't have to be tomorrow.

He could easily create a new account and not tell anyone about it, and he could keep the money for himself. But he didn't.

You do not know if he has created another account and is building it up with another IP, apart from trying to recover this one. You have no way of checking.

Btw icopress did he write you a PM to come to this thread to give your opinion? Because he has written to me, and I doubt I am the only one he has written to. I also doubt if it is even allowed to send these PMs when you have been banned.

[LoyceV]

Btw icopress did he write you a PM to come to this thread to give your opinion? Because he has written to me, and I doubt I am the only one he has written to. I also doubt if it is even allowed to send these PMs when you have been banned.

The rules are clear:

25. If you get banned (temporarily or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.