Ban Appeal For naim027. (SOLVED)

[Dic3L0v3r]

Hi Community. I am naim027 on my alts.

I hope everyone doing well. As you guys know, I got banned permanently, but I keep getting notifications from the Telegram bot, and I am watching discussions about myself.

Lovesmayfamilies keep saying I have lied at every opportunity. I would like to say that I didn't lie. In my first response, I have already stated that I did that a few more times without knowing the rules (see the quote).

Well, I don't have an explanation on this matter. But, As far as I remember, Not only this, but I did this a few more times without knowing the rules (As I have already said that those few weeks were my newbie days). Later someone from the WO thread warned me about this that I cannot share an article (or a part of the article) if I am not an original author. Later I edited the post and added the source link. Maybe this is one of these and I haven't edited this one (Added source now). So this is my responsibility. Good catch BTW.


Edit: I just found that post that psycodad and LoyceV was guiding me to not post articles/part of articles without source:

For bitcoin, upside momentum continues to slow on the daily price chart, suggesting continued profit-taking among buyers. And the relative strength index (RSI) on the daily chart is not yet oversold, which provides scope for further downside in BTC over the short-term.

The 100-day moving average, currently around $53,000, could attract buyers similar to late September, which preceded a price recovery.

For now, intraday charts appear deeply oversold. This means buyers could defend immediate support around $56,000, albeit briefly given strong overhead resistance on the charts.

Please be careful posting full identical sentences from i.e. Coindesk as if they were your own statements, it's called plagiarism and highly frowned upon around here:

LoyceV also mentioned me at that time:

I am not original author at Coindesk. Is it forbidden to share the news here?

Plagiarism will get you banned. You should edit your posts and add the source (link) to all of them.
Even if you don't get banned for plagiarism now, it can happen years later.

LoyceV asked me to edit my posts and add the sources. I have edited a few posts, but I could not edit all of them because I forgot if they were copied or not. psycodad and LoyceV warned me on October 19-2021. After that, I never plagiarized. Before November 19-2021, I made a maximum of 70(+-) posts. The post they reported was before this date. So, My question for the community is, How still I am a liar while I never plagiarized after November-19-2021?

Here is another reason they call me a liar. Once I commented on the Unofficial rules thread, I said, "I found this page, and this is helpful."
To be honest, that was a shitpost to increase the post count. This post was my 12th post in this forum. After this post, I was not there for another six months.

So, at this moment, I feel shy to create a ban appeal thread just because the community already believes that I am a liar.

I don't know why people are so aggressive at me. I didn't poke at anyone's balls.
I cannot express my feelings by writing. But, this is not good for me. I am trying to take a break. But, This forum has become part of my daily life.

Last words: I don't know why people still say I am lying after I answered every question. A single man cannot be good in everyone's eyes. There is no one in this forum who can vouch for me because I didn't make any good relationships with anyone. I apologize for what I have done before. I also apologize to those who were getting rude behavior from me (if anyone). I am requesting Moderators to review my case and take an action if possible.

Username: naim027

Regards!
Naim027

Once again, I am willing to accept a sig ban for a year or more. Will appreciated if they reduce the punishment.

You're missing the point: read theymos' quote again. What good have you offered the forum, and what good can you offer in the future?

Well, That's a hard question for me I guess. I am not a guy with an extraordinary talent like n0nce. I am an average person.

The good thing I did (In my opinion)-

• I helped newbies answering several questions on my local board thread (would be great if someone from my local thread can confirm) (post 1, Post 2, Post 3, Post 4, Post 5, Post 6, Post 7, Post 8
• Exposed some bounty cheaters (Later stopped because I realized they keep creating new accounts. Someone said I left some useless feedback) Post 1, Post 2 Post 3 Post 4, Post 5, Post 6 Post 7, Post 8,
• Tried to help others with some information (Midas Sticks Investigation 1) (Midas Sticks Scam Final Report)
• Exposed some scams website (Cloud Mining Scam, Binance Doge Scam
• Removed some Video content that promote scams with the help of forum members

For now, What I can promise,

• I won't break any forum rules in the future.
• I will help others in every possible way I can.
• Guide newbies from my experience
• I can help others with GPU mining (The only field where I am a bit veteran)

I am not sure if that's enough. But, all I can do is help others in every possible way.

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[lovesmayfamilis]

Now I see that you understand what it means to see a message about the ban. It's strange to hear the words about your innocence again. You have been warned several times to check all the posts. Could the last post containing plagiarism come from you? I don't believe you again. If a person knows what he writes about, he will not copy it. You didn't check all the posts thinking you were lucky. In addition, I saw another post edited recently.

The next step is to ask for a signature ban. Since you surely love the forum, will you love it as well without participating in signature companies?

And how long are you willing to love him without a signature?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Oh wow, I had no idea there was this drama surrounding you, naim027.  I still don't really know what all the details are aside from what was written in this thread, but you did a great job sniffing out the Midas USB stick scam since I wasn't able to due to the language barrier I was up against.

Whether your ban is just or not, I happen to believe you're not here just to drop shitposts for whatever sig campaign or bounty you're in.  I'm sure that's probably a factor (as it is for most members participating in either of those), but based on the interactions I've had with you I don't think you're the type of member who needs to plagiarize material in order to post.  Whether you really did plagiarize is another story, and that's between you and the moderators now.

I do wish you luck, and if you've learned your lesson and truly haven't lied as you've been accused of doing, you've got my support.

[KingsDen]

I am not aware you are in this naim027, I have seen your alias in several places in this forum, I can say you are an active member.
I have these to say in your case;

• One fastest means I use to determine a quality poster is the calibre of members that merited the user. If your merit fans span across reputable forum users, I will believe you are a quality poster. I came to this conclusion because it is easy for a quality poster to discover a quality post. In your merit fans I saw The Pharmacist,  LFC_Bitcoin, Ratimov, Fillippone, LoyceV, El duderino_, hugeblack among others, Welsh, Pmalek, Poker player,  foxpup, Lovesmayfamilis, Royse777 etc. I am sorry if this doesn't make sense to some persons.

• I sense that you are sincere in your statement as you had some data in your claims. You could easily be called a liar here because no one knows your real life personality. If you are not, don't allow it bother you much. You mentioned that a time came you didn't know the difference between your posts and the ones you plagiarised after LoyceV called your attention to it.
  I can say that your statement is correct as I already discussed something similar in my thread Why people plagiarise in the forum and how to avoid plagiarism.

  HOW TO AVOID PLAGIARISM:
  
  5. Don't post immediately after a research:
  Ensure you don't post immediately exiting a research room. If you do, you might likely find it difficult to differentiate your personal ideas and the ones gotten from research that needs to be cited.

  .
  This can be difficult for a newbie who doesn't know about plagiarism tools
  
• Finally, I cannot say whether the plagiarism committed by you was in the quest to make money. I also pray that the moderators should revisit your case and see if there is a way to help you out or mitigate your punishment.

• There is no one in this forum who can vouch for me because I didn't make any good relationships with anyone.

  I was touched by this statement of yours, because what you are into can happen to anyone. Well, you don't need to be in any kind of personal  relationship with anyone before you could be vouched for. Just try not to be hostile to the community and anyone could vouch for you, just like what I'm doing now. Though a reputable member has done it above before me. I wish you success.
  
  
  

[light_warrior]

Lovesmayfamilies keep saying I have lied at every opportunity. I would like to say that I didn't lie. In my first response, I have already stated that I did that a few more times without knowing the rules

And you remind that ruᛋᛋian whore bad woman lovesmayfamilis how she was banned for plagiarism just three years ago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141782.0

And how she cried crocodile tears and asked for forgiveness. She even addressed theymos personally.

How can anyone trust this two-faced person?

Remind her

[Poker Player]

I will disagree with the opinion of The Parmacist, KingsDen, and light_warrior.

I don't know why people still say I am lying after I answered every question. A single man cannot be good in everyone's eyes. There is no one in this forum who can vouch for me because I didn't make any good relationships with anyone.

You're lying, again. Our relationship was good.

The question here, as I said before, is whether someone who broke the rules in the past but is now making a positive contribution to the forum should be punished for it. We have several examples of people who had questionable behavior at the very least and after a second chance have become great assets to the forum.

When initially no action was taken against you and now you have been banned I understand that it is because you plagiarized too many times already. It's not that you copied three lines only once the first month you were on the forum, it's many times.

In most legal systems not knowing the rules is not an excuse. To give you an exaggerated example, you cannot murder someone and when appearing before the judge say that you did not know that murder is forbidden and therefore expect to be exonerated for it.

You lied through your teeth again the other day:

Are you still claiming you're not a liar?

Have you checked my response carefully? I guess no, I only know the rules after November 19th, 2021 because, on that

Well, I was Wondering Why There is No Dedicated Page For Forum Rules. And Somehow I violated One Of The Rules And I got a Message With the link to this Topic. it's helpful. Thank you Very Much.

Does March start after November on your calendar?

The lies and the issue of repeated plagiarism is in addition to that of alt abuse.

In any case I hope that if they lift your ban it will be in time, months at least I'm talking about, and I would be very surprised if it were not so, otherwise it would not make sense to have banned you. Or a signature ban.

And you remind that ruᛋᛋian whore bad woman lovesmayfamilis how she was banned for plagiarism just three years ago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141782.0

And how she cried crocodile tears and asked for forgiveness. She even addressed theymos personally.

How can anyone trust this two-faced person?

It's clear that in these types of threads many times the discussion gets personal and it's even clearer that you have some kind of personal pet peeve with lovesmayfamilis. I guess that doesn't let you see that there is nothing wrong with writing to theymos directly, especially when hilarious recommended it:

What you've just said makes little to no sense, but state your case to theymos if you feel you are a net positive to the forum and maybe he'll issue a signature ban instead.

[LoyceV]

LoyceV asked me to edit my posts and add the sources. I have edited a few posts, but I could not edit all of them because I forgot if they were copied or not.

That was dumb. You should have searched for the source of each post (that's how we catch plagiarism), or you could have deleted every old post just to be sure. You've had several chances to correct all your plagiarism, and you didn't take them.

If you want any chance to turn your ban into a signature ban, you should focus on this:

If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.

[Dic3L0v3r]

You have been warned several times to check all the posts. Could the last post containing plagiarism come from you? I don't believe you again. If a person knows what he writes about, he will not copy it. You didn't check all the posts thinking you were lucky. In addition, I saw another post edited recently.

That was bullshit from me. Actually, I didn't check carefully. I checked a few posts and I found one which I edited earlier.

The next step is to ask for a signature ban. Since you surely love the forum, will you love it as well without participating in signature companies?
And how long are you willing to love him without a signature?

I am willing to accept a sig ban for a year or more.

Whether you really did plagiarize is another story

Actually, I did. I have already stated this too many times. One more time for you.

I have registered in this forum back in 2017. But, I wasn't active here. In 2021, I made my return but I wasn't aware of the merit system. One day I saw a guy merited my post on October 16 2021 and I become a Jr. member. So, I slowly started becoming active. I was wondering how can I get quick merit. I copied some sources from the internet and posted them in this forum. Back then, I didn't know the rules until LoyceV and psycodad told me on WO thread. That was November 19-2021. After that, I edited my few posts and added the sources. but, I was unable to edit it all because I forgot which one I copied.

Now, You may say what about you commented on the Unofficial rules thread in march?

To be honest, Maybe I read a few lines or not, I cannot remember. I guess that was a shitpost from me. After this post, I was inactive for another six months and after that, I made my final return in October 2021.

I do wish you luck, and if you've learned your lesson and truly haven't lied as you've been accused of doing, you've got my support.

Thank you very much.

• I sense that you are sincere in your statement as you had some data in your claims. You could easily be called a liar here because no one knows your real life personality. If you are not, don't allow it bother you much. You mentioned that a time came you didn't know the difference between your posts and the ones you plagiarised after LoyceV called your attention to it.
  I can say that your statement is correct as I already discussed something similar in my thread Why people plagiarise in the forum and how to avoid plagiarism.

I am answering every question raised by others, I am providing proof of my claims. Still, my alt account (once accused) refused to believe my statement. After that, I don't expect others to believe my statement either. 100% up to them. BTW, Thanks.

edited out

Well, I agree with my accused alt. If you have a personal issue with her, you shouldn't expose it. Plagiarism can happen from anyone, Specially in newbie days. I did a lot of mistakes in my newbie days. I remember she guided me a few times when I was a newbie. I apologized before for my mistakes. So, I don't want to take it personally.

Here-

I think you should also learn how to use the site https://bpip.org/
If you looked at this site or LoyceV site https://loyce.club/bans/usernames.txt
you would notice that all of your found accounts were previously banned. But yes, according to your investigations, there is one live account, and I will also add that I found another one. And they all break rule 25. Ban evasion.
And yes, it is clear that you know how to use the search, so in the future, be careful, since the creation of a topic about killed accounts sometimes does not bring any benefit.

Ban evasion.



bright4mech Autoban user
Cryptocb Autoban user
Brightcrypto Autoban user
Bright4Real Autoban user
Crypto Bright
Chelsea2021

And here too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg58610140#msg58610140

You lied through your teeth again the other day:

You are not supposed to judge me too quickly. Read the full post, please. You will get the answer.

LoyceV asked me to edit my posts and add the sources. I have edited a few posts, but I could not edit all of them because I forgot if they were copied or not.

That was dumb. You should have searched for the source of each post (that's how we catch plagiarism), or you could have deleted every old post just to be sure. You've had several chances to correct all your plagiarism, and you didn't take them.

If you want any chance to turn your ban into a signature ban, you should focus on this:

If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.

I agree. I failed to take the chances.
Once again, I am willing to accept a sig ban for a year or more. Will appreciated if they reduce the punishment.

[LoyceV]

Once again, I am willing to accept a sig ban for a year or more. Will appreciated if they reduce the punishment.

You're missing the point: read theymos' quote again. What good have you offered the forum, and what good can you offer in the future?

[Dic3L0v3r]

Once again, I am willing to accept a sig ban for a year or more. Will appreciated if they reduce the punishment.

You're missing the point: read theymos' quote again. What good have you offered the forum, and what good can you offer in the future?

Well, That's a hard question for me I guess. I am not a guy with an extraordinary talent like n0nce. I am an average person.

The good thing I did (In my opinion)-

• I helped newbies answering several questions on my local board thread (would be great if someone from my local thread can confirm) (post 1, Post 2, Post 3, Post 4, Post 5, Post 6, Post 7, Post 8
• Exposed some bounty cheaters (Later stopped because I realized they keep creating new accounts. Someone said I left some useless feedback) Post 1, Post 2 Post 3 Post 4, Post 5, Post 6 Post 7, Post 8,
• Tried to help others with some information (Midas Sticks Investigation 1) (Midas Sticks Scam Final Report)
• Exposed some scams website (Cloud Mining Scam, Binance Doge Scam
• Removed some Video content that promote scams with the help of forum members

For now, What I can promise,

• I won't break any forum rules in the future.
• I will help others in every possible way I can.
• Guide newbies from my experience
• I can help others with GPU mining (The only field where I am a bit veteran)

I am not sure if that's enough. But, all I can do is help others in every possible way.

[Solosanz]

I'm tired to repeat this, but the moderators need to read this if they plan to revise their punishment.

This person is a complete liar

1. Claimed to know the rules after November 19, 2021

I only know the rules after November 19th, 2021

If he really doesn't know the forum rules to add original sources, why he can add the rules before November 19, 2021? Because he already know it, but he ask to LoyceV to gain his attention to give him merit.
naim027's posts before November 19, 2021

2. Take a look with lovesmayfamilis's post

3. Self admitting a complete newbie with his alt on March 26, 2022. How can someone already earn 500+ with his main account, claiming he's a newbie?

Well, I am a newbie. But, In my opinion. This thread doesn't suit off-topic. Not so many people will see this thread. Since this was a Scam attempt, You can move this thread to Scam Accusations board. A lot of people often visit scam accusations boards to discover.

This person is a merit seeker to participate signature campaign

Trying to accumulate more BTC from my Signature Campaign too.

Shitposting with the same post over and over first post, second post, third post

Creating useless stats first post, second post, third post

I'm not the only one who think he's a merit seeker

I also seem to be missing the point of this, hence my "answers" may not be 100% what you'd expect. Also, with the risk to offend you (I hope not, though), this topic looks somewhat like "yet another Meta stats, fishing for merit". This being said, you should expect some harsher replies.

I don't blame someone want to participate a campaign in this forum to earn more money, but using this way in order to participate a campaign is really DIRTY

Exposed some bounty cheaters (Later stopped because I realized they keep creating new accounts)
Exposed some scams website

The reason why you're stopped to expose bounty cheaters because it doesn't guarantee you to earn merit, creating useless stats is more easier and each stats you created always earn merit. That's why you're still continue your useless stats and stopped to hunt bounty cheaters.

what good can you offer in the future?

It doesn't make sense you ask such question to him, you know right when someone already got punishment, he will do anything e.g. beg for forgiveness, promise to contribute, or even bribe if it's possible.
I find it's similar situation like someone never posted in gambling board and he applied in gambling campaign, then he write below his application "willing to post in gambling section". Of course he will start shitpost on gambling board in order to fulfill the campaign requirement, we should look on past contribution, don't trust him words"

The real of his contributions was his recent posts, can anyone show me what's his contribution in this forum on his post history from pages 1-10? You will see it's a full of generic gambling posts in order to meet the requirements of the campaign.

Question: If someone really give a contribution in this forum and not only for signature campaign, why he stopped to give contribution and only post in gambling section?

Anyway, you should thank me for save you from plagiarism when I report your post on May 13, 2022 and the moderators didn't directly ban you, they waited for 5 days more.

[Lucius]

LoyceV asked me to edit my posts and add the sources. I have edited a few posts, but I could not edit all of them because I forgot if they were copied or not. psycodad and LoyceV warned me on October 19-2021. After that, I never plagiarized. Before October 19-2021, I made a maximum of 70(+-) posts. The post they reported was before this date. So, My question for the community is, How still I am a liar while I never plagiarized after October-19-2021?

There is no doubt that you made a mistake when you presented someone else's work as your own, it was simply wrong whether it was something in real life or online. What's worse is that you've been warned many times to stop doing things that way and even correct any posts that could be problematic, which can definitely be considered a second chance - and not everyone gets it.

I would personally check 7000 posts if I were you, and it would be enough if you used some free plagiarism checker if you can't already remember which posts were plagiarized and which weren't. It would be even easier if you deleted them all, as LoyceV already mentioned.

The fact is that you were banned for plagiarism, but what's even bigger problem is that you didn't take a second chance when you were given one - now you're actually asking to be forgiven again, and you're unlikely to get the support of forum members in that request. I think now everything is in the hands of admins and global mods.

[logfiles]

And you remind that ruᛋᛋian whore bad woman

Was this really necessary?  
Can't you put a cross your point without having to insult anyone?


Well it's sad that A Hero Member account gets banned over such mistakes that should have been avoided. I guess you already know how hard it is to get to a Hero Member rank these days. You had more than enough time to comb through you post especially after the first warning "shot". Not so many people get that chance but you became too confident and started having a bitter argument with other members which didn't look good.

I remember when some of Lauda's posts were reported for plagiarism. Being the dramatic person I knew, I thought we were going to receive a very dramatic response but what he did was accept the mistake and edited every post that had no source links and from what I know, he was never banned because of that plagiarism report.

[Dic3L0v3r]

but he ask to LoyceV to gain his attention to give him merit.

I didn't ask LoyceV to gain attention or anything. psycodad was asking me and LoyceV suddenly appeared there and he answered on his willing.

You can check here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg58474350#msg58474350

If he really doesn't know the forum rules to add original sources, why he can add the rules before November 19, 2021

Just Because I have added the source link before November 19, Does it mean I already know the rules?  If so, Yes, I am a liar.

Creating useless stats first post

হেলো ভাই ব্রাদার্স, ভাইয়েরা আমার, বোনেরা তোমার বোনেরাও নিশ্চই আমার। চলুন বিগত মাসের আমাদের লোকাল থ্রেড এর ওভারভিউটি দেখা যাক।

পোষ্ট কাউন্ট: মার্চ মাসে আমাদের থ্রেড এ ১২৬ টি পোষ্ট করা হয়েছিলো। যা এই মাসে অল্প কিছু বেড়ে ১৩৪ এ দাড়িয়েছে। সকলকে ধন্যবাদ ভালো পোষ্ট করার জন্য।

মেরিটঃ বিগত মাসে আমাদের মেরিট রেশিও ছিলো ০.৫৩ যেটা অনেক বেশি। মোট মেরিট শেয়ার হয়েছিলো ৬৭ টি। এই মাসে সেটা কমে হয়েছে ৪৩ টি।

মেরিট/পোষ্ট রেশিওঃ ওপরেই বলে ফেলেছি, যেহেতু মেরিট শেয়ার কমেছে, তাই মেরিট রেশিও কমে গেছে। ০.৫৩ থেকে এই মাসে ০.২৯ এ চলে এসছে। সাধারনত এটাও একবারেই খারাপ রেশিও নয়।

পোষ্টারঃ বিগত মাসে আমাদের থ্রেড এ ২৯ জন পোষ্ট করেছিলো। এই মাসে সেটা হয়েছে ৩৩ জন। ৪ জন নতুন ভাবে থ্রেড এ পোষ্ট করেছেন। আশা করি আপনারা কন্টিনিউ করবেন।

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10. Sumonkhan14 [4]

, second post

Monthly Overview Of Pakistan Thread
March- 2022

Hey Guys! I hope everyone is doing fine in this pandemic. I did the same thing a few months ago. But, I was busy with my other work, and I could not post.
Pakistani Thread made some significant changes During March 2022. The Post count increased significantly, Which is 696. Only NoorulHuda Posted 204 Posts. In February 2022, There were 28 Active posters. But In March, seven more people contributed to this great Thread.

Here is the Overview:

Here is the Top 10 Contributor of the month:

1. NoorulHuda [204]
2. Sayeds56 [92]
3. Cosmic Beyonders [63]
4. shahzadafzal [42]
5. UmerIdrees [41]
6. kaka_Shipai [38]
7. yawars20 [37]
8. Mariah20 [36]
9. Expert2022 [25]
10. Rehan Zakir [11]


Pakistan Thread has Crossed 9000+ Posts so far. On June 12-2022. Pakistan Thread will celebrate its 9th year anniversary. Kudos to everyone who contributed to this thread.
I also want to share the top 10 contributors of this thread (All time)

#   Author          Posts   

1   UmerIdrees [895]   
2   Sayeds56 [883]
3   CryptoYar [677]   
4   NoorulHuda [441]   
5   shahzadafzal [432]   
6   Indymoney   [364]   
7   techearn17   [299]   
8   nawazish1 [198]   
9   SHAHKHAN22 [191]   
10   irfan_pak10 [174]

, third post

Good Morning Pakistan!

Another Month, Another Record For Pakistan Community.  Here is the monthly Overview Of the Pakistan Thread (April-2022).

Post Count: Pakistani members have Posted 863 Posts during April-2022, Which is an impressive and new record for this community. Last month, It had another record of 696 Posts. Even NoorulHuda was Banned. She had made 214 Posts before getting banned.

Total Merit Shared: Here is another Record of Total Shared Merit. Since 2018, This is the first time the Pakistan community has shared 251 Merits In a Single month which is impressive. Last month, It had another record of 200 Merits.

Post per merit Ratio: It has no change this month. But, It's good that the ratio didn't drop even with more posts.

Number Of Posters: The Number of Posters increased by three. Not too big numbers, But, Also not too small considering a local thread.

Merit History Of Pakistan Thread (From DdmrDdmr Merit dashboard)
*The stats here up to 27th April.



Congratulation to the Top 10 Contributors!
1. NoorulHuda [214]
2. Mariah20 [80]
3. Sayeds56 [79]
4. Cosmic Beyonders [55]
5. UmerIdrees [55]
6. kaka_Shipai [51]
7. Shumyl [30]
8. shahzadafzal [30]
9. Morningstarr [28]
10. galambo [28]

If those Stats are useless merit fishing stats, Then Rikafip is my boss. I got inspired by him.

I am an average person.

There's idiom "every effort counts".

The good thing I did (In my opinion)-

• I helped newbies answering several questions on my local board thread (would be great if someone from my local thread can confirm) (post 1, Post 2, Post 3, Post 4, Post 5, Post 6, Post 7, Post 8
• Exposed some bounty cheaters (Later stopped because I realized they keep creating new accounts. Someone said I left some useless feedback) Post 1, Post 2 Post 3 Post 4, Post 5, Post 6 Post 7, Post 8,
• Tried to help others with some information (Midas Sticks Investigation 1) (Midas Sticks Scam Final Report)
• Exposed some scams website (Cloud Mining Scam, Binance Doge Scam
• Removed some Video content that promote scams with the help of forum members

Adding a link or other proof could be helpful for other people to verify it and few people might support your appeal.

[Stalker22]

LoyceV asked me to edit my posts and add the sources. I have edited a few posts, but I could not edit all of them because I forgot if they were copied or not. psycodad and LoyceV warned me on October 19-2021. After that, I never plagiarized. Before October 19-2021, I made a maximum of 70(+-) posts. The post they reported was before this date. So, My question for the community is, How still I am a liar while I never plagiarized after October-19-2021?
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I do not want to be a jerk, but it appears that you are not entirely honest about this.

This is your post from November 17, 2021:

Latin America showed promise in terms of regions as more governments legalized or took steps to regulate online gambling. As ever, Asia was one of the leading regions, along with Europe that remained steady in terms of growth.

2021 was also the year that the FATF greylisted Malta. This meant we got several requests to move jurisdictions, acquire other licenses, or set up in places like Kahnawake and Curacao.

2022 is set to be an even better year for the online gambling sector. According to the "Gambling: Global Market Opportunities & Strategies to 2022" report, projections for online and offline combined surpass an impressive $565 billion by the year-end. This demonstrates a growth rate of almost 6% on an annual basis.

When we look at just online gambling, the picture is even rosier. Figures from Juniper Research suggest that the total value of online wagers could reach $1 trillion. The figures vary depending on where you look, but all of them show a CAGR of over 10% in overall growth. Based on a CAGR of 12%, we can expect the value of online gambling to surpass $112 billion by 2025.

As for drivers of growth, we should be on the lookout for several different factors.

archived

Original source: https://www.yogonet.com/international/news/2021/10/18/59781-projections-for-the-gambling-industry-for-2022



And, it seems, you edited the post and added a link to the source article only on May 13, 2022, after you were reported for plagiarism by @Solosanz.

Code:

Last edit: May 13, 2022, 11:08:43 AM by naim027

[Dic3L0v3r]

I do not want to be a jerk, but it appears that you are not entirely honest about this.

This is your post from November 17, 2021:

Sorry, I worried:  , The date is November 19th. Just Edited it now.

I am not original author at Coindesk. Is it forbidden to share the news here?

Plagiarism will get you banned. You should edit your posts and add the source (link) to all of them.
Even if you don't get banned for plagiarism now, it can happen years later.

[Little Mouse]

Damn!
Sad to see you banned, Naim.
I used to know Naim for a quite a long time now because of the service (BTC exchange) I was providing here. I never imagine he could be plagiarized.
Naim was always a great resource for our local board thread. I read almost all his posts in the local board thread and I loved reading all this to be honest.
As LoyceV said, the rules are such that most newbies don't read though personally I would never think of plagiarism anywhere.

I would really love to see you get unbanned or atleast a sign ban for few months. I hope admin will consider.

[Dic3L0v3r]

The fact is that you were banned for plagiarism, but what's even bigger problem is that you didn't take a second chance when you were given one - now you're actually asking to be forgiven again, and you're unlikely to get the support of forum members in that request. I think now everything is in the hands of admins and global mods.

I am not sure if you mean I was banned before. Actually, I wasn't banned before. Solosanz reported my one post which was plagiarized. Then I edited that post and added the source link. After that, I was unable to find another one which caused me banned right now.

I hope admin will consider.

Waiting for a response from Admins/Moderators.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I am not sure if you mean I was banned before. Actually, I wasn't banned before. Solosanz reported my one post which was plagiarized. Then I edited that post and added the source link. After that, I was unable to find another one which caused me banned right now.

You should look at the message history of someone who accuses you of plagiarism.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5388389.msg60171857#msg60171857

However I have found his another plagiarism post and already report to moderator (I don't want to make another report on the "report plagiarism" thread since it can easily noticed by him and he will add the sources again), perhaps the second report that's make moderator decide to ban him since he failed to follow LoyceV suggestion. At least we know broke plagiarism rule is still zero tolerance until now. There's no excuse for high ranked users to deny he was don't know the forum rules, if it's a newbies, then it make sense to give a second chance.

With due diligence, you would probably see another very interesting post, where Solosanz simply did not give you a chance to "hide your head in the sand", that is, escape from the scene of the crime and again, as if nothing had happened, add a link. Naturally, the plagiarism messages were removed by the moderators, as they always do after a copy is discovered.
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5822/58224716.html

Now check how much you're cheating here. And are you really respecting the forum by showing this kind of behavior?

[Dic3L0v3r]

Now check how much you're cheating here. And are you really respecting the forum by showing this kind of behavior?

Well, I am not sure how it's cheating since after he reported my first post, I told her, "Yes, it was plagiarized, and I just edited the post and added the source link". Is it cheating?
Which kind of behavior are you referring to? I already know which post caused me to be banned. Yes, That was a plagiarized post, and I was unable to edit this post because I forgot if it was plagiarized or not.

[TrustedTrader]

Damn!
Sad to see you banned, Naim.
I used to know Naim for a quite a long time now because of the service (BTC exchange) I was providing here. I never imagine he could be plagiarized.
Naim was always a great resource for our local board thread. I read almost all his posts in the local board thread and I loved reading all this to be honest.
As LoyceV said, the rules are such that most newbies don't read though personally I would never think of plagiarism anywhere.

I would really love to see you get unbanned or atleast a sign ban for few months. I hope admin will consider.

Another ALT of yours got nuked. Such sad, much WoW. Have you been able to penetrate DT yet?

Those, who are wondering, may like to check my previous post in a locked thread- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5293217.msg55709365#msg55709365

So, the list is now...

mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r

[dkbit98]

I don't understand why would you do repeated plagiarism and pretending like you don't know the rules about that, when there are several topics and new posts with reported members every day.
I have a hard time trusting anything Naim027 is saying, however, everyone can make a mistake or two in early days, even Lauda got tagged for the same thing, so I would consider changing this to temp-ban or signature ban.
I think we are going to see how useful you are really for forum when you don't have any signature to wear.

PS
Sending merits to you alt account is not cool, and I consider it cheating.

[Lucius]

I am not sure if you mean I was banned before. Actually, I wasn't banned before. Solosanz reported my one post which was plagiarized. Then I edited that post and added the source link. After that, I was unable to find another one which caused me banned right now.

I know very well that you have not been banned before, and when I say that you had a second chance then I mean that you were warned to correct your mistakes, and from 2019 until today you have not done that. It sounds incredible to me that you failed to review a few dozen (and even a few hundred posts) in about 3 years...

In case you get a temporary or signature ban, my advice to you is to start reviewing your post history today - because it would be really tragicomic for someone to find you a plagiarized post after all this.

[shahzadafzal]

O my dear... another one Gone with the Wind... I did not notice you are gone.

I had some interaction with you in our local thread and in WO too and I admit that your posts there are always very construction and informative and really appreciate your work you did in our local thread while calculating stats.

You are not alone in this situation, well mostly its new comers who fall in this situation but you are not junior member any more, along with you another member NoorulHuda is in similar situation... we should remember with higher positions, comes more responsibility.

I have registered in this forum back in 2017. But, I wasn't active here. In 2021, I made my return but I wasn't aware of the merit system. One day I saw a guy merited my post on October 16 2021 and I become a Jr. member. So, I slowly started becoming active. I was wondering how can I get quick merit. I copied some sources from the internet and posted them in this forum. Back then, I didn't know the rules until LoyceV and psycodad told me on WO thread. That was November 19-2021. After that, I edited my few posts and added the sources. but, I was unable to edit it all because I forgot which one I copied.

I guess below is your WO post you are talking about and LoyceV  was the one who remined you about this... and yes it was in November 2021 and and look at the words of LoyceV (he's not a bot... he's God.... please tell us when BTC will be $100k?)

I am not original author at Coindesk. Is it forbidden to share the news here?

Plagiarism will get you banned. You should edit your posts and add the source (link) to all of them.
Even if you don't get banned for plagiarism now, it can happen years later.

Thank you very much. I never knew that. I shared few more posts from the news website. I mentioned the website name at the end. No one even suggested me anything.

BTW, Anything happens for good reasons.
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Based on your above comments "No one even suggested me anything" I think you deserve a chance. It's true on internet many user take the pilgrims very lightly unless get trapped in it.

And you remind that ruᛋᛋian whore bad woman lovesmayfamilis how she was banned for plagiarism just three years ago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141782.0

oops when did this happen??? hahahaha... will give it a read... interesting.

So, the list is now...

mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r

F*** kill me... so there's no comma in it? only "=" signs?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

And you remind that ruᛋᛋian whore bad woman lovesmayfamilis how she was banned for plagiarism just three years ago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141782.0

I'm not exactly sure what your post means, but damn....I don't remember lovesmayfamilis being banned at all.  I had to check all the pages of that thread to see if I posted in it.  

I will disagree with the opinion of The Parmacist, KingsDen, and light_warrior.

I just based what I said about naim027 on the interactions we had regarding these fake USB sticks that are advertised as being able to mine XMR.  It's a long story, and I'm not arguing that he didn't lie or anything of the sort.  The more I read in this thread, the more I feel I have to remind myself more often to be wary of dealing with people here.  

Also, I agree that it isn't cool to send merits to alt accounts, so there's that.

I think we are going to see how useful you are really for forum when you don't have any signature to wear.

Yep, that's the litmus test for how devoted one is to bitcointalk.  Speaking of that, how many members have gotten a signature ban instead of a permanent one?  Anyone know?

So, the list is now...

mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r

Seriously?

[LoyceV]

So, the list is now...
mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r

Seriously?

Ever since mdayonliner's drama I've been wondering: what are the odds of so many Bangladesh locals following a similar pattern? But that's not enough to link accounts.

[Dic3L0v3r]

I don't understand why would you do repeated plagiarism and pretending like you don't know the rules about that,

I didn't repeat Plagiarism after getting warned by psycodad and LoyceV. You check all my posts after 19th November 2021.

Sending merits to you alt account is not cool, and I consider it cheating.

I have responded about this:

Yes, you didn't break any rules here. But you violated the merit sharing rule with your alternate account. And this is not the only merit.
Therefore, I think you will not mind getting a negative rating? And let's not cry, because the rules must exist for everyone? Isn't it? I don't know where you can promote your accounts in this way, it's not fair. You are neither better nor worse than everyone, you do not have to be the most cunning.

Well, I don't know what should I say now. Because I know, I did a mistake and I regret that. I don't want to cry but, allow me to explain how I did that.

I opened my account in 2017. But, I was not active in this forum. Somehow, I returned in 2021 and saw a new system which is merit. Never knew what is that. I received my first merit only 4 months ago. After that, I have noticed that I have ranked up to Jr. member and I was surprised. I have created another account at that time. I didn't read the rules at that time and I wasn't aware of what I am doing. But, after 5-6 days, somehow I saw a discussion about merit abuse and I realized what I have done. I immediately stopped at the same time. If you check the logs, I have sent the last merit four months ago and all of them were in the same week.

I did something wrong and it's a part of human error. You can analyze my account and alt to see if I said anything wrong or lied. I apologize and regret what I have done.

But, after 5-6 days, somehow I saw a discussion about merit abuse and I realized what I have done. I immediately stopped at the same time. If you check the logs, I have sent the last merit four months ago and all of them were in the same week.

This sounds plausible. You stopped Meriting your alt the moment you realized it's frowned upon. Even though you had more opportunities, you didn't self-Merit again.

Based on this, I don't think this deserves negative feedback. I think neutral would fit better. I'll make a Neutral tag myself.

I would like to note that you posted good posts from the naim027 account. I and other merit sources have evaluated them repeatedly. I would take that into account.

2019 until today you have not done that. It sounds incredible to me that you failed to review a few dozen (and even a few hundred posts) in about 3 years...

Actually, It's not three years. I made my return to this forum in October 2021. Also, I never plagiarized after 19th November 2021. To be honest, I thought I have edited all. I forgot if that was plagiarized or not. I didn't know about free plagiarism tools back then. But, I have found some tools later. But, The bullshit thing is, I didn't check my old post with the tool after I found some online tools.

In case you get a temporary or signature ban, my advice to you is to start reviewing your post history today - because it would be really tragicomic for someone to find you a plagiarized post after all this.

I have made about a hundred posts during October and November 2021. I will check them all and delete them if I find any (if I get unbanned).

I am not original author at Coindesk. Is it forbidden to share the news here?

Plagiarism will get you banned. You should edit your posts and add the source (link) to all of them.
Even if you don't get banned for plagiarism now, it can happen years later.

Thank you very much. I never knew that. I shared few more posts from the news website. I mentioned the website name at the end. No one even suggested me anything.

BTW, Anything happens for good reasons.
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Based on your above comments "No one even suggested me anything" I think you deserve a chance. It's true on internet many user take the pilgrims very lightly unless get trapped in it.

Thanks for your support. But, Some members think those are useless merit fishing stats. Let's See if I get a chance.

Ever since mdayonliner's drama I've been wondering: what are the odds of so many Bangladesh locals following a similar pattern? But that's not enough to link accounts.

Well, Could you please explain which pattern are you referring to? I got it from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096681

I am sorry, I have seen Dtalk, Little Mouse and RaptarX in this forum. But, I am not aware of others.

[shahzadafzal]

....

Your this username Dic3L0v3r

Only "desi" can read it

Anyway good luck with getting your back account, don't lose hope.

[Dic3L0v3r]

Anyway good luck with getting your back account, don't lose hope.

Thanks for wishing me luck.

A single person cannot be good in everyone's eyes.
Someone Said, "You don't have to convince everyone, just a Mod".

I just based what I said about naim027 on the interactions we had regarding these fake USB sticks that are advertised as being able to mine XMR.  It's a long story,

Just Because you have left your personal opinion about my recent activity and wished me luck, You are no longer trusted by someone,

10. Removed The Pharmacist (Trust: +28 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (29) 4177 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

The same thing was happened with LoyceV just because of this -

you violated the merit sharing rule with your alternate account.

I don't think it's a forum rule. Allow me to quote theymos (he was talking to a Merit source here);

If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.

And about the Trust system:

The system is for handling trade risk, not for flagging people for good/bad posts/personalities/ideas.
~
 - Leave negative ratings if you actively think that trading with the person is less safe than with a random person.

But, after 5-6 days, somehow I saw a discussion about merit abuse and I realized what I have done. I immediately stopped at the same time. If you check the logs, I have sent the last merit four months ago and all of them were in the same week.

This sounds plausible. You stopped Meriting your alt the moment you realized it's frowned upon. Even though you had more opportunities, you didn't self-Merit again.

Based on this, I don't think this deserves negative feedback. I think neutral would fit better. I'll make a Neutral tag myself.

but were afraid to tell the community about it honestly.

That's not surprising: Bitcointalk can be quite harsh, especially for Newbies.

For this post, He was no longer trusted by someone-

9. Removed LoyceV (Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (58) 9526 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Later, She said she was overreacted and apologized:

But yes, I looked at the history of naim027's account, and just as he nobly apologized for his mistake earlier today, I also want to say that I overreacted with my assessment, and I apologize.

Do think sometimes she takes everything personally?

[Solosanz]

Just Because you have left your personal opinion about my recent activity and wished me luck, You are no longer trusted by someone,

10. Removed The Pharmacist (Trust: +28 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (29) 4177 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

The same thing was happened with LoyceV just because of this -
For this post, He was no longer trusted by someone-

9. Removed LoyceV (Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (58) 9526 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

That's how the trust system in this forum work and anyone are freely to trust or distrust someone. You wanted to control the trust system and make it centralized? lol

Also it's their own business, you don't have any right to know the reason.

[Timelord2067]

Damn!
Sad to see you banned, Naim.
I used to know Naim for a quite a long time now because of the service (BTC exchange) I was providing here. I never imagine he could be plagiarized.
Naim was always a great resource for our local board thread. I read almost all his posts in the local board thread and I loved reading all this to be honest.
As LoyceV said, the rules are such that most newbies don't read though personally I would never think of plagiarism anywhere.

I would really love to see you get unbanned or atleast a sign ban for few months. I hope admin will consider.

Another ALT of yours got nuked. Such sad, much WoW. Have you been able to penetrate DT yet?

Those, who are wondering, may like to check my previous post in a locked thread- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5293217.msg55709365#msg55709365

So, the list is now...

mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r

This post:  ?? ?? ??

S_Therapist also woke up from a year long hiatus a few days ago.

mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX

The final goal is to have multiple accounts with 250+ earned merit, so that they can push one of these alts (probably Little Mouse, DTalk or RapTarX) into DT1. That would help them to pull an elaborate scam. Monitoring their trust list may reveal more in the long run.

Not exactly "proof" is it?


Hello naim027, can you give me a break down as to why you Default Trust Distrust me, please?

Trust list for: Timelord2067 (Trust: +12 / =10 / -0) (DT1 (-7) 890 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2022-05-21_Sat_08.32h)
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~Timelord2067's judgement is Distrusted by:
43. naim027 Banned! (Trust: neutral) (513 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Trust list: backscratchers: users agree, they trust or distrust each other.
Trust list: backstabbers: users disagree, one user trust the other, while the other distrust him.

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

Your trust list this last week is interesting:

Thanks.

[Dic3L0v3r]

That's how the trust system in this forum work and anyone are freely to trust or distrust someone. You wanted to control the trust system and make it centralized? lol

Also it's their own business, you don't have any right to know the reason.

I know how the trust system work. Where did I say I want to make it centralized? I know it's their own business. I already know the reason so I don't have to ask anyone what was the reason.

Hello naim027, can you give me a break down as to why you Default Trust Distrust me, please?

Well, That was a long story Timelord. Seems you forgot everything. Once dkbit98 accused me and Poker Player as alts without any evidence and connections. You as a DT1, are Supposed to be investigated further before supporting his claims. You also claimed that my account had a connection with another random guy based on the Bitcoin address I copied from previous signature participants without verifying further. Later, Mr dkbit98 removed the neutral tag from my account after Poker Player submitted some proof of his claims.

Moreover, I saw you have left some feedback which is not correct in my opinion.

For example, You have left positive feedback to Scam busters. (Do you believe scam busters are unlike scam someone?), You left negative feedback just because someone applied on a paused campaign (That's cannot be a reason to be tagged). You have left negative feedback on some Ban evasion account (That's useless, Report to Mods via a thread instead)

[Timelord2067]

Hello naim027, can you give me a break down as to why you Default Trust Distrust me, please?

Well, That was a long story Timelord. Seems you forgot everything. Once dkbit98 accused me and Poker Player as alts without any evidence and connections. You as a DT1, are Supposed to be investigated further before supporting his claims. You also claimed that my account had a connection with another random guy based on the Bitcoin address I copied from previous signature participants without verifying further. Later, Mr dkbit98 removed the neutral tag from my account after Poker Player submitted some proof of his claims.

Moreover, I saw you have left some feedback which is not correct in my opinion.

For example, You have left positive feedback to Scam busters. (Do you believe scam busters are unlike scam someone?), You left negative feedback just because someone applied on a paused campaign (That's cannot be a reason to be tagged). You have left negative feedback on some Ban evasion account (That's useless, Report to Mods via a thread instead)

Thanks you for your response - let's work through these accusations as best we can.

Well, That was a long story Timelord. Seems you forgot everything. Once dkbit98 accused me and Poker Player as alts without any evidence and connections. You as a DT1, are Supposed to be investigated further before supporting his claims.

Did I support dkbit98's claims?  Please provide a link to that post, please.

You also claimed that my account had a connection with another random guy based on the Bitcoin address I copied from previous signature participants without verifying further.

Interesting.  Can you supply that link of where you allege I make this claim, please?

Later, Mr dkbit98 removed the neutral tag from my account after Poker Player submitted some proof of his claims.

How is that connected to me?

Moreover, I saw you have left some feedback which is not correct in my opinion.

Please provide links and or proof to back up that assertion so that I can make corrections as need be.

For example, You have left positive feedback to Scam busters.

True.  

(Do you believe scam busters are unlike scam someone?),

Are you saying that is not the correct use of the trust feedback that I say I trust them enough that I would do a trade?

More over, why single just me out?  Why not any other person (and there are many) who make identical or very similar positive trust feedback posts on other users trust feedback pages?  Why single out just me?

You left negative feedback just because someone applied on a paused campaign (That's cannot be a reason to be tagged).

I have given out 2,000+ negative trust feedbacks, can you quote the relevant one for me to review, please?

You have left negative feedback on some Ban evasion account (That's useless, Report to Mods via a thread instead)

I very well may have done so.  Again, I wouldn't be the only one, so the question is again two fold:  Can you please provide a link to who/where this occurred, please?  And, again, do you consider this is not the correct use of the trust feedback system?

[lovesmayfamilis]

Are you saying that is not the correct use of the trust feedback that I say I trust them enough that I would do a trade?

More over, why single just me out?  Why not any other person (and there are many) who make identical or very similar positive trust feedback posts on other users trust feedback pages?  Why single out just me?

Once again, duplicity. He himself added me to his trust list. But I'm also looking for cheaters.

Oh my God, naim027, you are not friends with logic at all, are you?

Your phrase about trust is just an antilogism.

For example, You have left positive feedback to Scam busters. (Do you believe scam busters are unlike scam someone?)

How do you rate JollyGood on your list? In any case, he is also quite severe concerning cheaters.

All the rest you added, I don't need to explain it to me... knowing your face.

Tilda on suchmoon made me laugh endlessly. I think you made him very upset.

Your distrust of me is fair. I cannot become your friend because I wouldn't say I like flattery.

And yet, it is very pleasing that you have learned the rules and can now teach everyone how to create your trust lists. But one little tip: buy a mirror, look at yourself, and then teach others.

[dkbit98]

Well, That was a long story Timelord. Seems you forgot everything. Once dkbit98 accused me and Poker Player as alts without any evidence and connections.

I have the right to suspect in anyone if I think there is something shady about certain members, and I was not so much wrong because you made copy-paste plagiarism multiple times with one of your altaccounts.
This topic is for your ban appeal not about me, and I have to say that your case is not looking good so far, honestly I have to say that you were part of my ignore list long before you got banned for breaking forum rules.

[Dic3L0v3r]

Did I support dkbit98's claims?  Please provide a link to that post, please.

Yes, You did - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5373997.msg58575673#msg58575673
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5373948.msg58574854#msg58574854

Interesting.  Can you supply that link of where you allege I make this claim, please?

Sure, Here it is - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5373948.msg58574156#msg58574156

How is that connected to me?

Because you supported his claims without further investigation. Later, Mr dkbit98 realized that Poker Player and I are not alts but you didn't change your statement.

Are you saying that is not the correct use of the trust feedback that I say I trust them enough that I would do a trade?

Well, That's your personal business. But, If you want to make it correct, Left an appropriate comment there. Just, Participant of Known alts of anyone cannot be a good reason to trust someone.

More over, why single just me out?  Why not any other person (and there are many) who make identical or very similar positive trust feedback posts on other users trust feedback pages?  Why single out just me?

Well, That's an additional reason. I didn't distrust you for only this one.

I have given out 2,000+ negative trust feedbacks, can you quote the relevant one for me to review, please?

Just because they applied on a Paused campaign, they don't deserve a negative trust. Trust systems should be used for scam-related things.

For example, You have left positive feedback to Scam busters. (Do you believe scam busters are unlike scam someone?)

How do you rate JollyGood on your list? In any case, he is also quite severe concerning cheaters.

That was an additional reason. That wasn't the only reason for distrusting him. Stop twisting my words everywhere.

Tilda on suchmoon made me laugh endlessly. I think you made him very upset.

That was an experiment for LoyceV.

Any banned user who can test this for me? Update: this is confirmed by email by (someone who claims to be) naim027.

Well, That was a long story Timelord. Seems you forgot everything. Once dkbit98 accused me and Poker Player as alts without any evidence and connections.

I have the right to suspect in anyone if I think there is something shady about certain members, and I was not so much wrong because you made copy-paste plagiarism multiple times with one of your altaccounts.
This topic is for your ban appeal not about me, and I have to say that your case is not looking good so far, honestly I have to say that you were part of my ignore list long before you got banned for breaking forum rules.

I know that you have the right to suspect anyone and I don't have any problem with that since you have understand everything back then and removed the feedback.
Yes, I did plagiarism in my newbie days but I don't think you have ignored me because you knew that I have broken forum rules. You have ignored me because I argued against your allegations or something. If not, Could you please explain what forum rules I have broken back then? For what reason exactly I was on your ignore list? If you knew that I was breaking forum rules, Why don't you report me instead of putting me on your ignore list?

Yes, This topic is about my Ban appeal. If Timelord doesn't ask me a question about that, I wouldn't say a single word about you.

[Poker Player]

You lied through your teeth again the other day:

You are not supposed to judge me too quickly. Read the full post, please. You will get the answer.

I am not going to expand much on what I already said but here I want to reaffirm that you lied because you said you had not made a good relationship with anyone. There are several people on the forum that I would have a beer with, and with you I would have had one before this happened.

...and I have to say that your case is not looking good so far...

I think you are right. It doesn't look good to me either.

[Dic3L0v3r]

and with you, I would have had one before this happened.

Well, If you say this. Then maybe I am wrong. I had some interactions with more people, but they pretended they didn't know I was banned or didn't care about me. I am glad that at least you have expressed your opinion about me. Still, I won't say I have too many friends and well-wishers here.

I think you are right. It doesn't look good to me either.

I won't give up until I heard something from officials. As I have said, A Single man cannot be good in everyone's eyes.

[Timelord2067]

How is that connected to me?

Because you supported his claims without further investigation. Later, Mr dkbit98 realized that Poker Player and I are not alts but you didn't change your statement.

I'll ask again:

Where do I say that you and Poker Player are alts?

[Dic3L0v3r]

How is that connected to me?

Because you supported his claims without further investigation. Later, Mr dkbit98 realized that Poker Player and I are not alts but you didn't change your statement.

I'll ask again:

Where do I say that you and Poker Player are alts?

You didn't say that directly. But check the posts I referred to in my previous posts.

Btw, Your approach seems good than last time. I may review my trust list this week.

[Poker Player]

You didn't say that directly. But check the posts I referred to in my previous posts.

I don't know why you waste your time with him. I have him on ignore but I see what he writes when you quote him.

It is not necessary to say the literal phrase: "Poker Player and naim027 are alts" to accuse us of being alts, and in the quotes you posted anyone can see it. I did very well to put him on my ignore list.

Btw, Your approach seems good than last time. I may review my trust list this week.

Lol. Trying to make friends?

[Dic3L0v3r]

Lol. Trying to make friends?

I don't have anything to lose. What are the benefits of making friends right now?

I guess I am not allowed to post on any other thread or not allowed to create a new thread.

Can Any Mod Lock this thread for me? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394622.0

[suchmoon]

I guess I am not allowed to post on any other thread or not allowed to create a new thread.

You are allowed to post only about your ban appeal. Turning this thread into "dear diary" isn't helping your case, not that it had any chance to begin with.

Can Any Mod Lock this thread for me? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394622.0

Mods clearly aren't reading here. Report the thread to mods the proper way.

[Timelord2067]

How is that connected to me?

Because you supported his claims without further investigation. Later, Mr dkbit98 realized that Poker Player and I are not alts but you didn't change your statement.

I'll ask again:

Where do I say that you and Poker Player are alts?

You didn't say that directly. But check the posts I referred to in my previous posts.

Btw, Your approach seems good than last time. I may review my trust list this week.

In fact I never said it at all.

[Ryu_Ar1]

Now check how much you're cheating here. And are you really respecting the forum by showing this kind of behavior?

Well, I am not sure how it's cheating since after he reported my first post, I told her, "Yes, it was plagiarized, and I just edited the post and added the source link". Is it cheating?
Which kind of behavior are you referring to? I already know which post caused me to be banned. Yes, That was a plagiarized post, and I was unable to edit this post because I forgot if it was plagiarized or not.

i'm quite new in this forum and i still don't fully know all the rules here but if i looked before i was also directed about some rules https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0#post_rules which even the rules were made long before your account is formed, did you intentionally not see or just pretend not to see

On the other hand, I regret this

"Yes, it was plagiarized, and I just edited the post and added the source link".

when you know it's plagiarized you immediately edit so it doesn't sound like a mistake and logically means when no one realizes it's plagiarism means you'll just let it be, right?

[invincible49]

when you know it's plagiarized you immediately edit so it doesn't sound like a mistake and logically means when no one realizes it's plagiarism means you'll just let it be, right?

Since many things this Naim027 guy has been said purely based on hypothesis- I can come up with one such as; I refuse to believe someone who has been very active in casino, gambling on internet and most certainly on Bitcointalk gambling section doesn't know how sites like turnitin or even free online plagiarism checker run or exist! This guy seems to be a drama queen. Accusation against him for merit boosting his alts- He accepted his fault and promised to not do again. Accusation against him for copy pasting- He again getting sentimental supports just because he did correct his mistakes and edited with original sources. Next time what? He scams someone $10 then come again in here and admits his mistake by paying back the victim and let the community forget it? This is ridiculous!

And as a Bangladeshi myself, I can most certainly say whenever some random guys from my country or other countries came to me for suggestions on how to be a member of Bitcointalk after mid 2018- I always told them there are certain rules and then there are unofficial rules for ethical purpose which they have to comply with if they want to maintain their accounts. And first thing I used to tell them is to be productive and not just shitpost in order to get merit if you want rank up. And as far I know most of Bangladeshi are on here because of their friend's recommendation. And in that sense and hypothetically it is beyond my understanding how this guy did not know those basic rules of the forum. Rules of Merit system, plagiarism, cheating a bounty with alts are first thing that Bangladeshi users on here get notified through their community!

I will report this thread to the mods so they lock up this thread for good. Bless you all.

[Dic3L0v3r]

I refuse to believe someone who has been very active in casino, gambling on internet and most certainly on Bitcointalk gambling section doesn't know how sites like turnitin or even free online plagiarism checker run or exist!

Where I have said that I don't know that free plagiarism checkers exist? Stop Twisting my words. Ah, You claim that you are a Bangladeshi, Have you ever seen my post on the Bangladeshi thread? I don't think so. Also, I don't think that you have read my posts in this thread.

Well, Answer me one question. How do you judge someone in the first place? Do you judge someone from his recent activity or Do you judge someone from his previous old activity?

For example,

A guy was a terrorist a few years ago, But after he realizes that he is doing wrong, He becomes normal like others.

Another guy was a very good man and a good student. But, Recently he becomes a terrorist.

Tell me which guy is good and which guy is bad and why?

I have already written many times that I made my return to this forum in October 2021. All mistakes I made in October and November 2021 were my newbie days. After November 2021, I didn't repeat any of them. Not only me, But 90% of newbies don't read the forum rules.

[invincible49]

Where I have said that I don't know that free plagiarism checkers exist? Stop Twisting my words.

I forgot if that was plagiarized or not. I didn't know about free plagiarism tools back then.

Well, Answer me one question. How do you judge someone in the first place? Do you judge someone from his recent activity or Do you judge someone from his previous old activity?

This is not a forum to teach you morality with my personal times and this is certainly not the forum that will lose any sleep over your existing on here or not! Every offender is innocent until he/she is caught then he/she pleads guilty, he/she will also have to face the consequence! Stop giving your illogical argument and do us all a favor! I won't entertain your any more reply on here. Best of luck.

[Dic3L0v3r]

Where have I said that I don't know that free plagiarism checkers exist? Stop Twisting my words.

I forgot if that was plagiarized or not. I didn't know about free plagiarism tools back then.

Stop Pretending like you don't know the meaning of "back then".

Don't try to be a Smart Ass. I am not the only person who broke the forum rules. Many Reputed members had a history of breaking forum rules and being banned, including lovesmayfamilis, Lauda, and many more. I have also noticed that you are a pure trust abuser who leaves useless, inaccurate feedback. It's sad to see that Vod left Positive offset feedback on your profile. Before judging others, Oil your own machine.

[LoyceV]

I will report this thread to the mods so they lock up this thread for good.

That's not how Meta works.

I have also noticed that you are a pure trust abuser who leaves useless, inaccurate feedback.

You shouldn't go off-topic in this thread, it could be considered ban evasion:

25. If you get banned (temporarily or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.

[JollyGood]

Now I see that you understand what it means to see a message about the ban. It's strange to hear the words about your innocence again. You have been warned several times to check all the posts. Could the last post containing plagiarism come from you? I don't believe you again. If a person knows what he writes about, he will not copy it. You didn't check all the posts thinking you were lucky. In addition, I saw another post edited recently.

That makes his defence somewhat difficult because he has been warned several times yet did not stop.

The next step is to ask for a signature ban. Since you surely love the forum, will you love it as well without participating in signature companies?

And how long are you willing to love him without a signature?

In a nutshell, it is all about trying to gain reputation for the sake of having a respectable facade in order to join signature campaigns for all his alt-accounts.

Allowing the ban to be lifted with restrictions placed on him not being allowed to join signature campaigns will only prove what you wrote. Also, if he is unbanned and still can be bothered to post it will probably descend in to an even lower quality post situation since he will not be receiving signature campaign fees.

Damn!
Sad to see you banned, Naim.
I used to know Naim for a quite a long time now because of the service (BTC exchange) I was providing here. I never imagine he could be plagiarized.
Naim was always a great resource for our local board thread. I read almost all his posts in the local board thread and I loved reading all this to be honest.
As LoyceV said, the rules are such that most newbies don't read though personally I would never think of plagiarism anywhere.

I would really love to see you get unbanned or atleast a sign ban for few months. I hope admin will consider.

Another ALT of yours got nuked. Such sad, much WoW. Have you been able to penetrate DT yet?

Those, who are wondering, may like to check my previous post in a locked thread- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5293217.msg55709365#msg55709365

So, the list is now...

mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r

Thank you for the post.

Personally, I was fairly sure 4 of those accounts being connected but would not be surprised about your claim being correct as far as the others are concerned.

In all cases, eventually, the puppeteer operating multiple accounts nearly always gives it away at some point.

I have been busy therefore unable to post in the forum as much as I used to and would like to but when I have time to spare I will take a look at the other names you mentioned. I will try to work out how you made the connection and then see if there is any merit to what you claim but in any case thank you for bringing this up.

Having said that, based on what has been written and presented, I hope the ban stands, the OP and his alt-accounts have no sympathy from me. I think the forum member I have the most similar thinking to on the subject matter is lovesmayfamilis. Also, I can understand the tough stance taken by invincible49.

[shasan]

If he really doesn't know the forum rules to add original sources, why he can add the rules before November 19, 2021?

Any one applied a rules doesn't mean the person was aware of the rules. I had copied a post at the starting of the forum but I was not aware about the  punishment and latter or before I have not copied any posts. That doesn't mean I copied the posts knowingly while I had few previous posts which wasn't copied. Everyone on the forum are not aware about the forum rules only few percentage of the people are aware about the forum rules.

3. Self admitting a complete newbie with his alt on March 26, 2022. How can someone already earn 500+ with his main account, claiming he's a newbie?

If s/he was fluent about the forum rule then s/he didn't violate the rule and could avoid the ban. As s/he aren't fluent about all the forum rule s/he is a newbie even I think I am still a newbie as I am learning a lot from the forum time to time.

This person is a merit seeker to participate signature campaign

Why you are posting on the forum? Only to help the community???

The reason why you're stopped to expose bounty cheaters because it doesn't guarantee you to earn merit, creating useless stats is more easier and each stats you created always earn merit. That's why you're still continue your useless stats and stopped to hunt bounty cheaters.

I have not yet gone his/her post history but yes I have seen several posts on the Bengali thread where I have seen s/he is helpful for the community. Anyway, is s/he received merit on all of his/her posts? What is the percentage of receiving merit on the bengali topics and what is the percentage of the merit of his/her bounty cheater exposed post/posts? Do, you not think you are trying to attack personally? What is the benefit of you/us if anyone become ban from the community? Do, you think s/he is not contribute anything on the forum? He made a loss  of the community or anysite whose content s/he used unknowingly about the forum rules? Anyway, I had opened this topic as I have received notification on the telegram and trying to reply base on your post (your post is random  of my search) please do not take it personally.

I think S/he will not be unbanned as I was banned for two years for the mistake of my starting and it wasn't reduce. But base on the contribution of him/her for the community I think s/he should be unbanned or atleast the punishment should be reduced.

[Poker Player]

Another ALT of yours got nuked. Such sad, much WoW. Have you been able to penetrate DT yet?

Those, who are wondering, may like to check my previous post in a locked thread- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5293217.msg55709365#msg55709365

So, the list is now...

mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r

Did he really have all these alts? I am not going to study the case but I do want to comment that I think this is another case of the many we see in the forum that end up banned for being in a hurry and wanting to cheat when they have the ability to earn a decent income without cheating.

I think that if he had not cheat he could have kept at least a couple of alts without exchanging merits, without plagiarizing and without joining the same campaign and he would earn much more than the average salary in Bangladesh. That's not counting if he already had a job there.

On naim027's account alone he was collecting 30% more of the average salary in Bangladesh.

I don't know, maybe it's poverty or something cultural that drives many of these people to break the rules when they could legitimately earn a decent income.

But that was just for writing 25 posts. And he wasn't even Hero member yet. Reaching Hero member and with an alt in Sr member in another similar paid campaign he could have earned about $600-700 a month when the average salary in Bangladesh is about $200 (source: google).

But of course, this requires patience and above all integrity.

[invincible49]

Did he really have all these alts?

I know for a fact that there was this guy who was caught by me had like 20+ high ranked accounts (I failed to get evidences for a few of his alts), all enrolled in highly paid signature campaigns, content creation competitions. He had all the times in the world laying in his hostel bed to create topics like how market will do in this and that situation, which one is the best alts to hodl, exploiting the bad situation in various European countries during COVID specially Italy and he was making like ten grands per months. Narcissists like that do exist among us just because of their mental illness.

Another ALT of yours got nuked. Such sad, much WoW. Have you been able to penetrate DT yet?
Those, who are wondering, may like to check my previous post in a locked thread- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5293217.msg55709365#msg55709365

So, the list is now...
mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r

It is not always obvious and accurate proofs that lead an investigator to find connection between cheating alts. Most of the times to catch a single guy who is very clever one, you need assumptions to make you interest about the person which then leads you to dig deeper. In your case you might not be wrong. From judging by all the mentioned accounts posts and hours of reading their contents, I have a very good guess that here we have a guy with all those alts might have histrionic personality disorder! Just for the sake of simple example;



There was literally no need for that personal text! 

[Poker Player]

I know for a fact that there was this guy who was caught by me had like 20+ high ranked accounts (I failed to get evidences for a few of his alts), all enrolled in highly paid signature campaigns, content creation competitions.

LOL. I find that hard to believe. Is there a thread where you expose them? If there really were 20 accounts or more connected it should be a farm more than a single guy, otherwise I think it's impossible. That person, if it was just one, would have to write 80+ quality posts a day to get paid in the campaigns.

I don't know, I think that even 3 or 4 alts, or 5 if you don't have another job can be managed by one person, but more is impossible.

In this case:  Long-time sig campaign farm ID'd via single wallet transaction I think it was an exceptional case, there were 3 accounts in the same sig campaign but only in 2 of them managed to write 50 posts per week and the third one didn't manage to do it. Let's say that the third one wrote an average of 25 posts, that would be like managing 5 accounts in sig campaigns that pay for a maximum of 25 posts. And in this case we understand that writing in the forum was a full time job, so it seems unlikely to manage more than 6 or 7 accounts by just one person.

[Dic3L0v3r]

Did he really have all these alts?

Well, I wouldn't be surprised if they say

So, the list is now...

mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r = Poker Player (You were already accused before)= The Pharmacist = LoyceV = shahzadafzal (Because a few of them supported me) LOL.

I think that if he had not cheat he could have kept at least a couple of alts without exchanging merits, without plagiarizing and without joining the same campaign and he would earn much more than the average salary in Bangladesh. That's not counting if he already had a job there.

I really feel bad now that you didn't believe yet what I have said before. I have exchanged merit, and I have plagiarized, But all this happened in a few weeks which were my newbie days. Everyone didn't start as a pro. Neither I. Which one are you considering as a lie? This one?



To be honest, Maybe I read a few lines or not, I cannot remember. I guess that was a shitpost from me. After this post, I was inactive for another six months and after that, I made my final return in October 2021.

On naim027's account alone he was collecting 30% more of the average salary in Bangladesh.
the average salary in Bangladesh is about $200 (source: google).

I can't stop laughing when I see people talking about my salary. I saw that this was discussed on another thread too and Rikafip also joined there.

Well, Some of you may know or not know that I work for a casino platform as a Support agent Cum Chat Moderator, and I am already getting about more than 6x from the average salary in Bangladesh. That's from my main Job. I also do Telegram Chat Moderation for a start-up platform and get a good amount from there. I have some GPU mining rigs which generate a good amount for me (Mining profitability lowered drastically now). I do gamble a lot in different casinos (You may notice me on the Blackjack leaderboard). That's not the income source but sometimes I get a good amount from gambling. I also do volunteer jobs for a charity organization. Taking care of an Old woman with my personal fund. @MahdiRakib Donated twice. Recently I opened a Lending service to boost up my work (It didn't help much). I feel a bit sad because @MahdiRakib knows a lot about me and I asked him to respond to this thread. But, Either he is too busy or doesn't want to get distrusted by someone who started removing everyone from the trust list if they say something positive about me. It's absurd to talk about my salary here since this is mainly for my unban appeal. Sorry if I am moving off-topic but I had to clear up some things.

I know for a fact that there was this guy who was caught by me had like 20+ high ranked accounts (I failed to get evidences for a few of his alts), all enrolled in highly paid signature campaigns, content creation competitions.

LOL. I find that hard to believe.

Did you forget how you becomes my alt? Everything is possible in this forum.
I don't have to plagiarize in order to earn merit. That has happened just because I really didn't know the rules. If I knew the rules, Why I would take such a risk? If you check my last two-month merit history, You will understand why and from where I got merits.

[Solosanz]

Everyone on the forum are not aware about the forum rules only few percentage of the people are aware about the forum rules.

When I found his first plagiarized post, then he already know the rules right? Why he not checked all his posts? the reason why he got banned high likely because I found his another post he plagiarized.

As s/he aren't fluent about all the forum rule s/he is a newbie even I think I am still a newbie as I am learning a lot from the forum time to time.

It's really hard to understand forum rules? You're only need to understand to not plagiarism, that's all. The other rules e.g. post in a row, bump old post without add any value etc will be corrected by moderators, then you will learn after you realized that.

Why you are posting on the forum? Only to help the community???

I never said I'm against signature campaign, look this

I don't blame someone want to participate a campaign in this forum to earn more money, but using this way in order to participate a campaign is really DIRTY

I have not yet gone his/her post history but yes I have seen several posts on the Bengali thread where I have seen s/he is helpful for the community. Anyway, is s/he received merit on all of his/her posts? What is the percentage of receiving merit on the bengali topics and what is the percentage of the merit of his/her bounty cheater exposed post/posts?

I don't want to waste my time to count all of his merits, but everyone can see which board/thread he mostly got his merit

Do, you not think you are trying to attack personally?

No, I'm not, constructive criticism is different with personal attack without any proof.

What is the benefit of you/us if anyone become ban from the community?

We don't need a shitposter who only looking to earn money in this forum.

I think S/he will not be unbanned as I was banned for two years for the mistake of my starting and it wasn't reduce. But base on the contribution of him/her for the community I think s/he should be unbanned or atleast the punishment should be reduced.

I have go through your posts history and I'm also agree you shouldn't get permanent banned due to contribution, you and him are completely different person. He did a tiny contribution, but most of his posts isn't. The most important thing is completely liar, can you trust a liar? I stand by my point to not give any reduction to his ban able offense.

mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r = Poker Player (You were already accused before)= The Pharmacist = LoyceV = shahzadafzal (Because a few of them supported me) LOL.

Do you think it's good to accuse someone without any proof?
You're accusing The Pharmacist, LoyceV, and shahzadafzal are controlled by one person, moreover both of those accounts participated in the same campaign. I have no idea why you can make this connection.

and I am already getting about more than 6x from the average salary in Bangladesh. That's from my main Job. I also do Telegram Chat Moderation for a start-up platform and get a good amount from there. I have some GPU mining rigs which generate a good amount for me (Mining profitability lowered drastically now). I do gamble a lot in different casinos (You may notice me on the Blackjack leaderboard). That's not the income source but sometimes I get a good amount from gambling. I also do volunteer jobs for a charity organization. Taking care of an Old woman with my personal fund. @MahdiRakib Donated twice. Recently I opened a Lending service to boost up my work (It didn't help much). I feel a bit sad because @MahdiRakib knows a lot about me and I asked him to respond to this thread. But, Either he is too busy or doesn't want to get distrusted by someone who started removing everyone from the trust list if they say something positive about me.

I will summarize:
6x average salary for the main job
Good amount salary as a chat moderator
Also good amount from mining
Also good amount from gambling

Signature campaign only earn around $300/month, I don't know the specific number you earn, but I don't believe if you have earn so much money, you're really want to get the $300/month since you're always got $1200/month as a stable income.

You will understand why and from where I got merits.

From useless stats and gaining attention or mentioning the merit source on every your posts.

[Poker Player]

Signature campaign only earn around $300/month, I don't know the specific number you earn, but I don't believe if you have earn so much money, you're really want to get the $300/month since you're always got $1200/month as a stable income.

Here I think you are wrong, my friend, as I earn a lot more than $1200 a month and I am in a signature campaigns earning $400 a month. Everything adds up, and even more if it means getting paid for an activity such as contributing to forums that I did for free for a long time. It is not an extra effort for me.

[Dic3L0v3r]

Signature campaign only earn around $300/month, I don't know the specific number you earn, but I don't believe if you have earn so much money, you're really want to get the $300/month since you're always got $1200/month as a stable income.

I have never seen such a Dick-head logic before. Elon musk should shut down SpaceX, and Tesla and enjoy life because he already has enough.

We don't need a shitposter who only looking to earn money in this forum

Oh really? Then why not ban all the bounty hunters if you have the power? Dick head hypocrite.
Well, I am locking this thread since the useless discussion about what I have earned from this forum and about my salary is not going to help my case. I guess moderators can unlock the thread anytime if they want to respond. I will bump this thread every few weeks.

[TrustedTrader]

So, the list is now...
mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r

Seriously?

Ever since mdayonliner's drama I've been wondering: what are the odds of so many Bangladesh locals following a similar pattern? But that's not enough to link accounts.

Diving into the historical data of trust list, trust sent/received & merit sent/received may give you some pointer.

Thank you for the post.

Personally, I was fairly sure 4 of those accounts being connected but would not be surprised about your claim being correct as far as the others are concerned.

In all cases, eventually, the puppeteer operating multiple accounts nearly always gives it away at some point.

I have been busy therefore unable to post in the forum as much as I used to and would like to but when I have time to spare I will take a look at the other names you mentioned. I will try to work out how you made the connection and then see if there is any merit to what you claim but in any case thank you for bringing this up.

Welcome.

[Dic3L0v3r]

Guys, I am here again. For those, Who don't know why I was banned; I was banned for plagiarism.

I have PM'ed theymos, Cyrus and another Mod about this thread. Allow me to quote OP again here for more visibility. I am also going to quote some positive comments from other members about me. If you know me, Feel free to share your opinion about my ban.

Hi Community. I am naim027 on my alts.

I hope everyone doing well. As you guys know, I got banned permanently, but I keep getting notifications from the Telegram bot, and I am watching discussions about myself.

I have already stated that I did that a few more times without knowing the rules (see the quote).

Well, I don't have an explanation on this matter. But, As far as I remember, Not only this, but I did this a few more times without knowing the rules (As I have already said that those few weeks were my newbie days). Later someone from the WO thread warned me about this that I cannot share an article (or a part of the article) if I am not an original author. Later I edited the post and added the source link. Maybe this is one of these and I haven't edited this one (Added source now). So this is my responsibility. Good catch BTW.


Edit: I just found that post that psycodad and LoyceV was guiding me to not post articles/part of articles without source:

For bitcoin, upside momentum continues to slow on the daily price chart, suggesting continued profit-taking among buyers. And the relative strength index (RSI) on the daily chart is not yet oversold, which provides scope for further downside in BTC over the short-term.

The 100-day moving average, currently around $53,000, could attract buyers similar to late September, which preceded a price recovery.

For now, intraday charts appear deeply oversold. This means buyers could defend immediate support around $56,000, albeit briefly given strong overhead resistance on the charts.

Please be careful posting full identical sentences from i.e. Coindesk as if they were your own statements, it's called plagiarism and highly frowned upon around here:

LoyceV also mentioned me at that time:

I am not original author at Coindesk. Is it forbidden to share the news here?

Plagiarism will get you banned. You should edit your posts and add the source (link) to all of them.
Even if you don't get banned for plagiarism now, it can happen years later.

LoyceV asked me to edit my posts and add the sources. I have edited a few posts, but I could not edit all of them because I forgot if they were copied or not. psycodad and LoyceV warned me on October 19-2021. After that, I never plagiarized. Before November 19-2021, I made a maximum of 70(+-) posts. The post they reported was before this date. So, My question for the community is, How still I am a liar while I never plagiarized after November-19-2021?

Here is another reason they call me a liar. Once I commented on the Unofficial rules thread, I said, "I found this page, and this is helpful."
To be honest, that was a shitpost to increase the post count. This post was my 12th post in this forum. After this post, I was not there for another six months.

So, at this moment, I feel shy to create a ban appeal thread just because the community already believes that I am a liar.

I don't know why people are so aggressive at me. I didn't poke at anyone's balls.
I cannot express my feelings by writing. But, this is not good for me. I am trying to take a break. But, This forum has become part of my daily life.

Last words: I don't know why people still say I am lying after I answered every question. A single man cannot be good in everyone's eyes. There is no one in this forum who can vouch for me because I didn't make any good relationships with anyone. I apologize for what I have done before. I also apologize to those who were getting rude behavior from me (if anyone). I am requesting Moderators to review my case and take an action if possible.

Username: naim027

Regards!
Naim027

Once again, I am willing to accept a sig ban for a year or more. Will appreciated if they reduce the punishment.

You're missing the point: read theymos' quote again. What good have you offered the forum, and what good can you offer in the future?

Well, That's a hard question for me I guess. I am not a guy with an extraordinary talent like n0nce. I am an average person.

The good thing I did (In my opinion)-

• I helped newbies answering several questions on my local board thread (would be great if someone from my local thread can confirm) (post 1, Post 2, Post 3, Post 4, Post 5, Post 6, Post 7, Post 8
• Exposed some bounty cheaters (Later stopped because I realized they keep creating new accounts. Someone said I left some useless feedback) Post 1, Post 2 Post 3 Post 4, Post 5, Post 6 Post 7, Post 8,
• Tried to help others with some information (Midas Sticks Investigation 1) (Midas Sticks Scam Final Report)
• Exposed some scams website (Cloud Mining Scam, Binance Doge Scam
• Removed some Video content that promote scams with the help of forum members

For now, What I can promise,

• I won't break any forum rules in the future.
• I will help others in every possible way I can.
• Guide newbies from my experience
• I can help others with GPU mining (The only field where I am a bit veteran)

I am not sure if that's enough. But, all I can do is help others in every possible way.

Oh wow, I had no idea there was this drama surrounding you, naim027.  I still don't really know what all the details are aside from what was written in this thread, but you did a great job sniffing out the Midas USB stick scam since I wasn't able to due to the language barrier I was up against.

Whether your ban is just or not, I happen to believe you're not here just to drop shitposts for whatever sig campaign or bounty you're in.  I'm sure that's probably a factor (as it is for most members participating in either of those), but based on the interactions I've had with you I don't think you're the type of member who needs to plagiarize material in order to post.  Whether you really did plagiarize is another story, and that's between you and the moderators now.

I do wish you luck, and if you've learned your lesson and truly haven't lied as you've been accused of doing, you've got my support.

I am not aware you are in this naim027, I have seen your alias in several places in this forum, I can say you are an active member.
I have these to say in your case;

• One fastest means I use to determine a quality poster is the calibre of members that merited the user. If your merit fans span across reputable forum users, I will believe you are a quality poster. I came to this conclusion because it is easy for a quality poster to discover a quality post. In your merit fans I saw The Pharmacist,  LFC_Bitcoin, Ratimov, Fillippone, LoyceV, El duderino_, hugeblack among others, Welsh, Pmalek, Poker player,  foxpup, Lovesmayfamilis, Royse777 etc. I am sorry if this doesn't make sense to some persons.

• I sense that you are sincere in your statement as you had some data in your claims. You could easily be called a liar here because no one knows your real life personality. If you are not, don't allow it bother you much. You mentioned that a time came you didn't know the difference between your posts and the ones you plagiarised after LoyceV called your attention to it.
  I can say that your statement is correct as I already discussed something similar in my thread Why people plagiarise in the forum and how to avoid plagiarism.

  HOW TO AVOID PLAGIARISM:
  
  5. Don't post immediately after a research:
  Ensure you don't post immediately exiting a research room. If you do, you might likely find it difficult to differentiate your personal ideas and the ones gotten from research that needs to be cited.

  .
  This can be difficult for a newbie who doesn't know about plagiarism tools
  
• Finally, I cannot say whether the plagiarism committed by you was in the quest to make money. I also pray that the moderators should revisit your case and see if there is a way to help you out or mitigate your punishment.

There is no one in this forum who can vouch for me because I didn't make any good relationships with anyone.

I was touched by this statement of yours, because what you are into can happen to anyone. Well, you don't need to be in any kind of personal  relationship with anyone before you could be vouched for. Just try not to be hostile to the community and anyone could vouch for you, just like what I'm doing now. Though a reputable member has done it above before me. I wish you success.

Damn!
Sad to see you banned, Naim.
I used to know Naim for a quite a long time now because of the service (BTC exchange) I was providing here. I never imagine he could be plagiarized.
Naim was always a great resource for our local board thread. I read almost all his posts in the local board thread and I loved reading all this to be honest.
As LoyceV said, the rules are such that most newbies don't read though personally I would never think of plagiarism anywhere.

I would really love to see you get unbanned or atleast a sign ban for few months. I hope admin will consider.

O my dear... another one Gone with the Wind... I did not notice you are gone.

I had some interaction with you in our local thread and in WO too and I admit that your posts there are always very construction and informative and really appreciate your work you did in our local thread while calculating stats.

You are not alone in this situation, well mostly its new comers who fall in this situation but you are not junior member any more, along with you another member NoorulHuda is in similar situation... we should remember with higher positions, comes more responsibility.

I have registered in this forum back in 2017. But, I wasn't active here. In 2021, I made my return but I wasn't aware of the merit system. One day I saw a guy merited my post on October 16 2021 and I become a Jr. member. So, I slowly started becoming active. I was wondering how can I get quick merit. I copied some sources from the internet and posted them in this forum. Back then, I didn't know the rules until LoyceV and psycodad told me on WO thread. That was November 19-2021. After that, I edited my few posts and added the sources. but, I was unable to edit it all because I forgot which one I copied.

I guess below is your WO post you are talking about and LoyceV  was the one who remined you about this... and yes it was in November 2021 and and look at the words of LoyceV (he's not a bot... he's God.... please tell us when BTC will be $100k?)

I am not original author at Coindesk. Is it forbidden to share the news here?

Plagiarism will get you banned. You should edit your posts and add the source (link) to all of them.
Even if you don't get banned for plagiarism now, it can happen years later.

Thank you very much. I never knew that. I shared few more posts from the news website. I mentioned the website name at the end. No one even suggested me anything.

BTW, Anything happens for good reasons.
Post edited 💝

Based on your above comments "No one even suggested me anything" I think you deserve a chance. It's true on internet many user take the pilgrims very lightly unless get trapped in it.

I have not yet gone his/her post history but yes I have seen several posts on the Bengali thread where I have seen s/he is helpful for the community. Anyway, is s/he received merit on all of his/her posts? What is the percentage of receiving merit on the bengali topics and what is the percentage of the merit of his/her bounty cheater exposed post/posts? Do, you not think you are trying to attack personally? What is the benefit of you/us if anyone become ban from the community? Do, you think s/he is not contribute anything on the forum? He made a loss  of the community or anysite whose content s/he used unknowingly about the forum rules? Anyway, I had opened this topic as I have received notification on the telegram and trying to reply base on your post (your post is random  of my search) please do not take it personally.

I think S/he will not be unbanned as I was banned for two years for the mistake of my starting and it wasn't reduce. But base on the contribution of him/her for the community I think s/he should be unbanned or atleast the punishment should be reduced.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I know there's a lot of drama surrounding this ban appeal, and I'm not going to deny that what naim027 did looks suspicious beyond all doubt.  He reminds me in a way of mdayonliner (and a couple others whose names I've long since forgotten), who was here trying to build a reputation quickly and trying to bond with long-time members for whatever purpose.  But for some reason I don't think naim027 came here to scam anyone, and I also think if his ban were to be lifted he most likely wouldn't plagiarize again.  One would have to be an outright moron to do that after being caught doing it and then put under the microscope like naim027 was.

He might well have been here to earn some money through sig campaigns, but in my interactions with him he went above and beyond what a typical sig campaign shitposter would do--and I'm referring to the Midas USB thing I referenced earlier in this thread.  My vote is still for Theymos to give him a second chance, for whatever that's worth.  He knows he fucked up, even if he's being defensive about it

Just my $0.02 in favor of lifting his ban.

[P2PECS]

What is not clear to me is where is the line that divides being punished for plagiarism or not, because apparently you can copy up to 7 times without being banned.

I say this not so much because of Dic3L0v3r , since it seems that his ban is fair, and it is not clear to me if he should be pardoned in some way, but because I don't quite understand the other case.

[Upgrade00]

What is not clear to me is where is the line that divides being punished for plagiarism or not...

I can't argue on the case you linked, but plagiarism are handled on a case by case basis and not a straight forward rule. Since, it is real humans moderating the forum, they would decide based on their personal perception of the situation, and some guidelines which theymos has now and again posted around the forum. Things like;
• The intent behind the post,
• The previous positive contributions of the user,
• Whether or not the post was incentivises, e.g, if the user is wearing a paid signature, etc.
It's also possible that a reported case has not yet been attended to by a mod.

I say this not so much because of <snip>

I always read the name as DiceLover

[P2PECS]

I say this not so much because of Dicklover

I always read the name as DiceLover

Sorry about that, I've edited the name to Dic3L0v3r.

[JollyGood]

What happens when a user receive a ban for plagiarism, do the moderators comment on every single temporary or permanent ban with a justification or explanation?

I think it is clear sometimes what we might perceive to be worthy of a temporary or permanent ban or even not worthy to be classified as plagiarism could be the opposite of what the moderators conclude because they are privy to more information than us.

What is not clear to me is where is the line that divides being punished for plagiarism or not, because apparently you can copy up to 7 times without being banned.

I say this not so much because of Dic3L0v3r , since it seems that his ban is fair, and it is not clear to me if he should be pardoned in some way, but because I don't quite understand the other case.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I read the entire thread. F***, I really did!

While I was reading the understandings were swinging very quick. One moment it went to the right, another moment to the left then front then back. When I finally decided to stick with back then something else pulled me to the top and then some other things dropped me to the bottom.

Can't we let the admin to handle it? If anyone was doing anything good to this topic then it was invincible49.

I will report this thread to the mods so they lock up this thread for good. Bless you all.

The rest are confusing. It's so confusing as F*** that I still don't know if OP should have been given a chance. As some other suggested I will suggest the same, give him a chance. As punishment take his signature space away for 2 years.

Lock this thread and bump it periodically.

[wtsimis]

The whole thing is now little confusing. But at the end, that naim027 was not a shitposter, though he made some mistakes. But I can't deny his works in our  local board thread. He always helped as well as inspired newbies. In fact, he helped me several times with giving some advise.
namin027 build a good reputation but now feeling sad to see the man being banned. It's been long time for his ban, and also he is clarifying his mistakes. It'll be great for rethink about his ban.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Can't we let the admin to handle it? If anyone was doing anything good to this topic then it was invincible49.

I will report this thread to the mods so they lock up this thread for good. Bless you all.

The rest are confusing.

They will handle it as they see fit, or they'll ignore it and let the ban stand as it is--but it is common for threads like these to have members give their support or criticism for the person who got banned.  I think that's how it should be, since it might influence the moderators' decisions.  There was a prominent member of the Collectibles section who got their ban overturned because of that (and their name is escaping me, but it's on the tip of my tongue).

Generally, shitposters and/or members who haven't contributed much to the forum won't get any support whatsoever.  In those cases, it gives the mods a good idea that the member should remain banned, especially if they start making up all sorts of bullshit and excuses, promises, outbursts of anger, etc.  It's rare that other members stick up for a plagiarist, but personally I think people can change and people who've broken that particular rule but have otherwise been a postitive contributor to the forum ought to at least have their case reconsidered.

What happens when a user receive a ban for plagiarism, do the moderators comment on every single temporary or permanent ban with a justification or explanation?

Of course they don't--especially when the banned member is your typical bounty-hunting shitposter.  That isn't the case with naim027 IMO.  Anyway, we'll see what happens.

[Pmalek]

What happens when a user receive a ban for plagiarism, do the moderators comment on every single temporary or permanent ban with a justification or explanation?

They rarely do that, but there have been cases where some of the more active mods have posted explaining why the person was banned. In some cases they would even quote the post/posts that got them banned. There really is no way to tell why they decide to comment in some threads and remain quiet in others. When a local Croatian board member got banned, we tried to lift his ban for almost 2 years. In all that time, I don't remember the admins commenting or saying anything in the thread until the ban was lifted one day and the only post was from the mod who unbanned the user. He simply said that the user is now unbanned and end of story. I think that was hilariousandco.

[LoyceV]

I know there's a lot of drama surrounding this ban appeal, and I'm not going to deny that what naim027 did looks suspicious beyond all doubt.  He reminds me in a way of mdayonliner (and a couple others whose names I've long since forgotten), who was here trying to build a reputation quickly and trying to bond with long-time members for whatever purpose.

Do you mean this list?

So, the list is now...
mdayonliner = S_Therapist = Little Mouse = DTalk = bitcoinbangladesh.org = RapTarX = naim027 = Dic3L0v3r

Seriously?

Ever since mdayonliner's drama I've been wondering: what are the odds of so many Bangladesh locals following a similar pattern? But that's not enough to link accounts.

I don't think all of them are alts, but it wouldn't surprise me if some of them are.

There was a prominent member of the Collectibles section who got their ban overturned because of that (and their name is escaping me, but it's on the tip of my tongue).

That was ChiBitCTy.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Do you mean this list?

Nah, I saw that list and I really don't think naim027 is one of mdayonliner's alts.  Could I be wrong?  Absolutely; I've been fooled many times in the past.  But naim027's reputation-building behavior wasn't quite as blatant as mdayonliner's--and sure, he could have toned it down to try to avoid detection, but my gut is telling me that isn't the case.  

I don't buy that list as a whole, either.  Especially RapTarX being in it.

That was ChiBitCTy.

Yes!  Thank you.  That was a situation where there was massive support for a ban being lifted, and it obviously influenced Theymos or the mods, or whoever's responsible for lifting bans.  To those of you who aren't aware, they can be reversed and each case is different.

[JollyGood]

That was what I was thinking, the moderators are not under any obligation to provide explanations when either temporarily or permanently banning a member. I think I have only seen one instance (not the one you referred to in the Croatian board) where a moderator might have made a comment but they do not give a running commentary.

Rightly or otherwise, moderators are not under any obligation to elaborate to others when banning but they do informed the recipient of the reason along with the length of time. I do think there have been and will be cases where members will question a ban but if moderators are not under obligation it will take a huge effort to try to get them to comment.

What happens when a user receive a ban for plagiarism, do the moderators comment on every single temporary or permanent ban with a justification or explanation?

They rarely do that, but there have been cases where some of the more active mods have posted explaining why the person was banned. In some cases they would even quote the post/posts that got them banned. There really is no way to tell why they decide to comment in some threads and remain quiet in others. When a local Croatian board member got banned, we tried to lift his ban for almost 2 years. In all that time, I don't remember the admins commenting or saying anything in the thread until the ban was lifted one day and the only post was from the mod who unbanned the user. He simply said that the user is now unbanned and end of story. I think that was hilariousandco.

[Igebotz]

I read the entire thread. F***, I really did!

While I was reading the understandings were swinging very quick. One moment it went to the right, another moment to the left then front then back. When I finally decided to stick with back then something else pulled me to the top and then some other things dropped me to the bottom.

Can't we let the admin to handle it? If anyone was doing anything good to this topic then it was invincible49.

They've already dealt with it! However, some people(me) still believe that such a beautiful journey ended too soon, so they are pleading with the admin to temper justice with mercy on behalf of the OP. He admitted he was wrong and begged forgiveness, saying it could happen to anyone. I oppose plagiarism, but it does occur from time to time due to human error.

The rest are confusing. It's so confusing as F*** that I still don't know if OP should have been given a chance. As some other suggested I will suggest the same, give him a chance. As punishment take his signature space away for 2 years.

It is incorrect to condition forgiveness!! If my memory serves me correctly, I believe lovemaysfalilies was the last user to receive such a hash punishment. We had two unbanned ceases earlier this year with no consequences. Let's not make his life any harder than it already is. Just my 0.004 cent, which is twice what The pharmacist offers

Lock this thread and bump it periodically.

Lol. This is not a service thread. Lady

There was a prominent member of the Collectibles section who got their ban overturned because of that (and their name is escaping me, but it's on the tip of my tongue).

Always leaving home work behind!!! Haha

[LoyceV]

That was ChiBitCTy.

Yes!  Thank you.  That was a situation where there was massive support for a ban being lifted, and it obviously influenced Theymos or the mods, or whoever's responsible for lifting bans.  To those of you who aren't aware, they can be reversed and each case is different.

I think the ChiBitCTy case was the one that lead to a change in the plagiarism policy, giving established members a chance to get unbanned.

Just my $0.02 in favor of lifting his ban.

Just my 0.004 cent, which is twice what The pharmacist offers

Your math sucks The Pharmacist offered 500 times more.

[JollyGood]

Well, there are consequences for breaking rules. If someone as forgiving as yourself was a moderator things would be different here 

The way I see it, he is seeking an unban because he is missing out on the signature campaign income thus the desperation, however this might not be a simple case of plagiarism because we do not know what the moderators know. Add to that allegations of alt-accounts, there could be more to this than we know.

They've already dealt with it! However, some people(me) still believe that such a beautiful journey ended too soon, so they are pleading with the admin to temper justice with mercy on behalf of the OP. He admitted he was wrong and begged forgiveness, saying it could happen to anyone. I oppose plagiarism, but it does occur from time to time due to human error.

[Igebotz]

Well, there are consequences for breaking rules. If someone as forgiving as yourself was a moderator things would be different here 

Without a doubt! I forgave my cheating girlfriend twice, and we are now happily married with two beautiful children! That is the advantage of forgiveness; it works both ways! I've seen schoolchildren shooters and murderers given second chances, but we should crucify every plagiarist on a simple engine forum . I'll eat my tongue if you show me any unbanned user who turned into a jerk after being given a second chance.

The way I see it, he is seeking an unban because he is missing out on the signature campaign income thus the desperation

Another reason the poor man should be let loose: the kids need to eat, right? Life on the other side of the world is not always greener.

however this might not be a simple case of plagiarism because we do not know what the moderators know. Add to that allegations of alt-accounts, there could be more to this than we know.

And what's wrong with the mod/Admin showing up and saying, "Hey, bitches, he did this, this, and that, and that's why we're not unbanning him?" Close the thread and walk?

Just my $0.02 in favor of lifting his ban.

Just my 0.004 cent, which is twice what The pharmacist offers

Your math sucks The Pharmacist offered 500 times more.

Hey, Switzerland! If a student is dull, blame the school! It breaks my heart to think that I spent 5 years studying engineering mathematics only to come here and fail a simple math problem. It sucks 

[icopress]

I will quote my feedback.

Dic3L0v3r

22-07-04

Reference

Naim027 gave me back the btc he received by mistake. The amount of risk does not exceed 100 dollars, but nevertheless, he did not have the slightest reason to return the funds to me since his main account was banned. Definitely deserves a second chance.

He could easily create a new account and not tell anyone about it, and he could keep the money for himself. But he didn't.

That's enough for me to know that this guy deserves a second chance.

[Poker Player]

I wasn't going to write here, but after the recent comments I will give my opinion.

The ban is more than justified. At first it was known that he had plagiarized and he was not banned. And it was shortly after, when the evidence was accumulating and he was caught in contradictions that he was banned.

Personally, I don't care if he is given a second chance or not, but in favor of those who advocate giving him one, I think Ratimov is right.

Bans for plagiarism are perceived by the community as somewhat arbitrary. That people are banned on a case to case basis gives an impression of subjectivity that is not very rigorous, and that is perceived as rather lenient lately.

Naim027 gave me back the btc he received by mistake. The amount of risk does not exceed 100 dollars, but nevertheless, he did not have the slightest reason to return the funds to me since his main account was banned. Definitely deserves a second chance....

He could easily create a new account and not tell anyone about it, and he could keep the money for himself. But he didn't.

That's enough for me to know that this guy deserves a second chance.

I disagree with this reasoning, my friend. If he paid you back when he was already banned, he knew that paying you back could already help his case, as it has. About $75-100 is what he was making in a week posting on the forum. To me, it seems like a pretty profitable investment to give back about $100 to get unbanned soon and make $100 a week.

In any case, if he is to be given a second chance, I would not be in a hurry to give it to him. It doesn't have to be tomorrow.

He could easily create a new account and not tell anyone about it, and he could keep the money for himself. But he didn't.

You do not know if he has created another account and is building it up with another IP, apart from trying to recover this one. You have no way of checking.

Btw icopress did he write you a PM to come to this thread to give your opinion? Because he has written to me, and I doubt I am the only one he has written to. I also doubt if it is even allowed to send these PMs when you have been banned.

[LoyceV]

Btw icopress did he write you a PM to come to this thread to give your opinion? Because he has written to me, and I doubt I am the only one he has written to. I also doubt if it is even allowed to send these PMs when you have been banned.

The rules are clear:

25. If you get banned (temporarily or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Lock this thread and bump it periodically.

Lol. This is not a service thread. Lady

You are wrong. Service threads are not the only threads which are allowed to bump. I have a thread I bump it periodically. There are many users who had none service thread they bump it. I asked him to bump it so that some day moderator will notice it and consider the unban. 😉

I disagree with this reasoning, my friend. If he paid you back when he was already banned, he knew that paying you back could already help his case, as it has. About $75-100 is what he was making in a week posting on the forum. To me, it seems like a pretty profitable investment to give back about $100 to get unbanned soon and make $100 a week.

In any case, if he is to be given a second chance, I would not be in a hurry to give it to him. It doesn't have to be tomorrow.

I think the most convenient punishment will be to ban his signature for x month/year. He plagiarized which is no way acceptable but considering the whole situation he deserves a chance too. If this was a bounty hunter then no one would bother to write a word. But since there are many users with many opinions, it means he has done something good to the forum.

[Poker Player]

This is inaccurate assumption. Even if this user got unbanned, it's likely he'll get signature ban for 1-2 years. Within that time, signature campaign condition may be changed for better/worse and he need to make some activity if he wants accepted easier after signature ban period ended.

I do think it is accurate. Why is he likely to get a signature ban? The last two cases that I remember were those of Mpamaegbu and Pokapoka124. In the first case it was a single plagiarism some time ago, so it doesn't have much to do with this case, but he didn't get a signature ban. In Pokapoka's case it was plagiarism several times, so more similar to this one, and he did not receive a signature ban.

If I remember correctly, in both cases there was talk of signature ban.

The rules are clear:

25. If you get banned (temporarily or permanently) and create a new account to continue posting / sending PMs, it's considered ban evasion. The only exception is creating a thread in Meta about your ban.

****ing Bitcointalk encyclopedia.

[JollyGood]

Here is one opinion that we seem to broadly agree on.

I think there is an attempt on his side to definitely try to utilise that account for a signature campaign. There were allegations of alt-accounts, some seem to have substance but that is here not there in the context of the plagiarism case.

And anyway, as you stated there is no way of knowing whether he has already started building up another account as well as if he had ulterior motives for returning the accidentally received funds.

For obvious reasons he did not send me a PM asking to vouch for him 

I wasn't going to write here, but after the recent comments I will give my opinion.

The ban is more than justified. At first it was known that he had plagiarized and he was not banned. And it was shortly after, when the evidence was accumulating and he was caught in contradictions that he was banned.

Personally, I don't care if he is given a second chance or not, but in favor of those who advocate giving him one, I think Ratimov is right.

Bans for plagiarism are perceived by the community as somewhat arbitrary. That people are banned on a case to case basis gives an impression of subjectivity that is not very rigorous, and that is perceived as rather lenient lately.

Naim027 gave me back the btc he received by mistake. The amount of risk does not exceed 100 dollars, but nevertheless, he did not have the slightest reason to return the funds to me since his main account was banned. Definitely deserves a second chance....

He could easily create a new account and not tell anyone about it, and he could keep the money for himself. But he didn't.

That's enough for me to know that this guy deserves a second chance.

I disagree with this reasoning, my friend. If he paid you back when he was already banned, he knew that paying you back could already help his case, as it has. About $75-100 is what he was making in a week posting on the forum. To me, it seems like a pretty profitable investment to give back about $100 to get unbanned soon and make $100 a week.

In any case, if he is to be given a second chance, I would not be in a hurry to give it to him. It doesn't have to be tomorrow.

He could easily create a new account and not tell anyone about it, and he could keep the money for himself. But he didn't.

You do not know if he has created another account and is building it up with another IP, apart from trying to recover this one. You have no way of checking.

Btw icopress did he write you a PM to come to this thread to give your opinion? Because he has written to me, and I doubt I am the only one he has written to. I also doubt if it is even allowed to send these PMs when you have been banned.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

For obvious reasons he did not send me a PM asking to vouch for him  

Why would you think it's important for a case to PM you?

I think there is an attempt on his side to definitely try to utilise that account for a signature campaign. There were allegations of alt-accounts, some seem to have substance but that is here not there in the context of the plagiarism case.

If this is not a context of this plagiarism case then why are you creating unnecessary suspense?

Let's get to the point, you expect users to PM you for any case they have. Two days ago I sent you a PM and I still have not received a response. If I am correct then DireWolfM14 said somewhere that you did not respond his PM too. What indication we should take from it?

[tranthidung]

IIRC signature ban is somehow common when admin/moderator decide to remove permanent ban, although i no longer remember which member who got such treatment.

Previous only head admins can: theymos and Cyrus but since 2019, global moderators can do it too.

Flow is admins collect proof and make reports to global moderators/ admins who will make further investigation, then make decisions to keep the permanent ban or release it with a softer one.

Posts are reported to moderators who check out the report. If the poster needs to be banned, the moderator sends a ban report up to a global mod or admin. The global mod or admin handles all of the ban reports they get at around the same time. Either the admins or global mods don't need to check every account because they trust the moderators to have already done so, or they check quickly because every such report contains references and links to the plagiarism post and to the source text so checking takes little time.

Global mods were given the ability to ban signatures only yesterday. Do you think we can get through all the appeals in one day? Be patient.

[Rikafip]

That was what I was thinking, the moderators are not under any obligation to provide explanations when either temporarily or permanently banning a member. I think I have only seen one instance (not the one you referred to in the Croatian board) where a moderator might have made a comment but they do not give a running commentary.

That's one of the rare things I don't like about this forum, that mods don't answer on such threads. I do understand that no answer is also an answer, but it would make people speculate way less so instead members talking for years (like in RegulusHR case), they could just give a simple answer and end the conversations. Its not like there are many ban appeal cases anyway.

IIRC signature ban is somehow common when admin/moderator decide to remove permanent ban, although i no longer remember which member who got such treatment.

I only know about one case of signature ban and that's lovesmayfamilis (who I remember was quite active on forum despite the signature ban) but I think I saw at least one more but can't remember the name now. I think that measure is seriously underused here, while it should be the obvious choice for the first time offenders.

[JollyGood]

I definitely agree with the speculation part. Not knowing a reason for any form of ban (temporary or permanent) can be problematic especially if the user in question has been contributing positively prior to the ban. In that case it would be normal for users to ask the moderators questions which as you said might receive a reply.

If there could be a moderators thread which they can use to list users that they have banned citing the reasons, it will allow for there less speculation in the general sense. With moderators not really commenting on or replying to questions about banned users, it has the ingredients of causing disharmony simply because of the lack of knowledge surrounding the issue especially when the banned user creates an alt-account to push through their own attempt at unbanning. You are right when you pointed out there are not many ban appeal cases therefore I hope it is something moderators would consider in future.

I do think that using an alt-account to send PMs trying to appeal to certain members to post (in favour about having their ban overturned), is certainly not good form.

That was what I was thinking, the moderators are not under any obligation to provide explanations when either temporarily or permanently banning a member. I think I have only seen one instance (not the one you referred to in the Croatian board) where a moderator might have made a comment but they do not give a running commentary.

That's one of the rare things I don't like about this forum, that mods don't answer on such threads. I do understand that no answer is also an answer, but it would make people speculate way less so instead members talking for years (like in RegulusHR case), they could just give a simple answer and end the conversations. Its not like there are many ban appeal cases anyway.

[tranthidung]

I only know about one case of signature ban and that's lovesmayfamilis (who I remember was quite active on forum despite the signature ban) but I think I saw at least one more but can't remember the name now. I think that measure is seriously underused here, while it should be the obvious choice for the first time offenders.

It should be two cases but I am keen on the first case.

• hacker1001101001
• shasan

If they are not the case, you can find it in [BAN APPEAL]UPDATE: Total table + Ban status (Need feedback from Global mods)

[tranthidung]

I didn't know such list exist, although it's last updated 3 years ago.

It is because OP of that topic turned to be inactive and in recent years, the plagiarism reporting bot stops working.

• A wave of bans: 400 yesterday, 300 the day before. What changed?

Somone's been very busy reporting copy and pasters.

Responding to @Poker Player, i was referring to ChiBitCTy and redsn0w case.

I recall a case that was released even without signature ban or temporary ban in 2019.

[Timelord2067]

Funny how a supposedly banned user is still gaming the system:

https://loyce.club/trust/2022-07-23_Sat_05.08h/131361.html

Trust list for: Timelord2067 (Trust: +13 / =10 / -0) (DT1 (-7) 913 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2022-07-23_Sat_05.08h)
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~Timelord2067's judgement is Distrusted by:
45. NEW naim027 Banned! (Trust: neutral) (517 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Funny how a supposedly banned user is still gaming the system:

Interesting, a ban user can not post but can chance their trust setting. What else they can change?

When I lost my account then account recovery team helped me to restore the account. It does not seem anyone from the admin including the mods have seen the topic. May be naim027 can reach out to the account recovery team.

[Dic3L0v3r]

After my last post, I was expecting a healthy discussion about my ban from everyone. This thread was locked for a few weeks. But I reopened this thread.

<snip>

You were always on my Distrust list. I think I had removed you for some reason.

It does not seem anyone from the admin including the mods have seen the topic. Maybe naim027 can reach out to the account recovery team.

I already PM'ed two Global Mods Two Administrators and a few other members who have been involved in this thread before.
Yesterday, I got a reply from a Global Mod;

Don't think I've handled the ban and I don't handle ban appeals for bans I didn't create.

This means If theymos banned me. Only his attention matters in this thread. Other Mods won't respond here.

I disagree with this reasoning, my friend. If he paid you back when he was already banned, he knew that paying you back could already help his case, as it has. About $75-100 is what he was making in a week posting on the forum. To me, it seems like a pretty profitable investment to give back about $100 to get unbanned soon and make $100 a week.

What is the guarantee that if I repay the $100 it will help my case to get me unbanned? Why so negative? Why not positively think that? a guy sent me $100 by mistake and I just returned him.

On a random evening, I saw I got some BTC on my Binance, and it was exactly 250K sat. Somehow I thought it might be Icopress. Because I only shared my Segwit Address twice. Both on the Icopress campaign. I had contact With Little Mouse and I was telling him that I got some BTC and don't know where it comes from. He told me "I sent that" immediately he also said, I am joking. Try to figure out who sent that. I logged in to the forum and saw icopress sent me a PM add asking if I can send him back.



Well, I already broke another rule by sending PM. Poker Player already reported it on Ban evading report thread. The only hope now is If Moderators see his report and come to this thread. If it's not going to happen and they ban my alt too (Most likely to happen). Bye bye BitcoinTalk.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Just my $0.02 in favor of lifting his ban.

Just my 0.004 cent, which is twice what The pharmacist offers

Your math sucks The Pharmacist offered 500 times more.

I'm sorry, I....just had to laugh at that one.  I actually pulled out a calculator and did (0.004)($0.01)(500) since I can't move decimals and do multiplication in my head, and you're right on.  I've no idea where igehhh was coming from with that statement, because even $0.004 isn't double what $0.02 is.  Sorry for veering off topic, but I admire your attention to detail.

Funny how a supposedly banned user is still gaming the system:

Interesting, a ban user can not post but can chance their trust setting. What else they can change?

I know naim027 replied to this already, but I'm pretty sure doing what Timelord2067 said he did isn't possible.  Or is it?  There was a problem with banned accounts dumping all their merits a while back (which is sort of similar to this), and that little loophole-thing was quickly taken care of by Theymos.  How much control does a banned member actually have over their account? 

Anyway, good luck naim027.  I'm rooting for you, and I don't believe I'm naive in doing so.  If you get unbanned, don't break the trust I have in you, eh?

[Dic3L0v3r]

I know naim027 replied to this already, but I'm pretty sure doing what Timelord2067 said he did isn't possible.  

Actually Yes. It's Possible. He was on my Distrust list before, After getting banned, I removed him from my distrust list. Last week I added him again.

Anyway, good luck, naim027.  I'm rooting for you, and I don't believe I'm naive in doing so.  If you get unbanned, don't break the trust I have in you, eh?

Thank you very much. I am unlikely to get unbanned. But, I promise I won't break your trust.

My statement strikes me- What I have said in this thread, A single word is not a lie. On another thread, Poker Player said:

If you read me, which I assume you do, naim027, I have nothing personal against you. There was a time when I trusted you, but it's too many things, repeated plagiarism, alt abuse and lies when elucidating your case, plus sending PMs now when it's not allowed.

It takes a long time to gain trust and a short time to lose it, but in your case is that instead of regaining it you make it worse.

@Poker Player, I don't know what you mean by repeated plagiarism while I already explained that, Those few weeks were my newbie days and I never Copied anything after LoyceV Gave me a warning (19 November 2021):

I am not original author at Coindesk. Is it forbidden to share the news here?

Plagiarism will get you banned. You should edit your posts and add the source (link) to all of them.
Even if you don't get banned for plagiarism now, it can happen years later.

Thank you very much. I never knew that. I shared few more posts from the news website. I mentioned the website name at the end. No one even suggested me anything.

BTW, Anything happens for good reasons.
Post edited 💝

About alts abuse, What did I do? Creating an alt account is not abuse. What I have done is, Sent 8 Merits to my alt account and all of them were in the same week. Which I already stated on another thread and seems everyone was satisfied with my explanation. I sent those 8 merits not knowing the rules. Recently I saw a Legendary guy send merit to his alts even though he knows the rules and that was discussed in the forum. That's off-topic here.

About Lies? Sometimes you will find that you really don't have any proof to prove something other than saying I am not lying.

According to you, I broke your trust. But, You don't know what I know man. You really don't know.

[Poker Player]

About Lies? Sometimes you will find that you really don't have any proof to prove something other than saying I am not lying.

Who are you trying to fool?

Are you still claiming you're not a liar?

Have you checked my response carefully? I guess no, I only know the rules after November 19th, 2021 because, on that

Well, I was Wondering Why There is No Dedicated Page For Forum Rules. And Somehow I violated One Of The Rules And I got a Message With the link to this Topic. it's helpful. Thank you Very Much.

Does March start after November on your calendar?

On the other hand:

Anyway, good luck naim027.  I'm rooting for you, and I don't believe I'm naive in doing so.  If you get unbanned, don't break the trust I have in you, eh?

I'm surprised you have trust in him, The Pharmacist. I had it and stopped having it in view of the evidence, but I respect your opinion.

[Dic3L0v3r]

About Lies? Sometimes you will find that you don't have any proof to prove something other than saying I am not lying.

Who are you trying to fool?

I have explained this twice to you. Let me tell you again. I was not regular on this forum. This post was made on March 30, 2021. After this post, I was inactive for another six months. I don't recall why I commented on this thread and why I have said this. So my assumption is, either it was just a shitpost to increase post count. Or maybe I have read the rules partially. One more thing is, Even if read the rules, I don't think I understood the meaning of Plagiarism back then. I am almost good at English. Still, I had to use a translator sometimes. Don't judge by Grammer because I use Grammarly Business to write which was provided by my Employer.

[tranthidung]

In brief, I support naim027 here, like LoyceV and The Pharmacist.
I don't know about naim027 too clear but months ago I saw naim027's thread in Lending child board. As I know, since then, the user started to rank up well enough from Full Member or Senior Member (maybe from Full Member) to the Hero Member rank.

From the disclosure in OP and the user's changes after receiving advice from some experienced members, stop plagiarism, adding sources, I think it is a very open-minded guy. It's good enough. The bad mistake is not delete all past posts or not checking all of them and adding sources.

Additionally but more important, what are all plagiarized posts (~ 70 as I saw in OP) were made for what intention? To share news, to hit post quota, to get money from bounties or campaigns. If during that period, no financial-earning intention behind, I think it is somewhat acceptable. Of course, rule was broken but if no financial incentive behind, it's somewhat acceptable.

Lastly, if we count for how recent plagiarism reports were handled very softly, naim027 should be unbanned or at least a second chance. I know Mr.Right85 even made many plagiarism to earn in Livecasino.io's campaign. Got acceptance from manager and started to plagiarize after that. No ban in any sort, so why naim027 were banned like this?

Weird and unfair! A fair treatment is no ban in any sort for naim027 if the case of Mr.Right85 is a new standard to handle plagiarism case. Obviously, we must consider why naim027 made such plagiarism and compare it to why and when Mr.Right85 made his plagiarism plus their net contribution (how they rank up). If it is the same intention (why) and with same period of experience in the forum (when) plus not significant difference in their net contribution (I believe so), two users must have same ending, either permanently ban or no ban at all or a second chance.

Their net contributions (in topics they created only)

• naim027
• Mr.Right85
• naim027 received less merit from his topics but Mr.Right85 received most of merits in those topics from his national friends. I am not sure how they received merit from their posts, but from topic lists, not big difference in their contribution and how forum members recognize their topics
• If you want to compare their net contributions, you must check their post history, merited posts and exclude national fans. All of these checking, I don't do here

[Poker Player]

I have explained this twice to you. Let me tell you again.

Yes, but your explanations do not convince me.

In brief, I support naim027 here, like LoyceV and The Pharmacist.

Does LoyceV still support him? I have not heard him speak out recently.

[tranthidung]

Does LoyceV still support him? I have not heard him speak out recently.

Maybe I missed some posts here but it is not important and silence does not mean opinion was changed. My opinion is my own and not affected by LoyceV or The Pharmacist.

I wrote my reasons above, clear enough.

[JollyGood]

Funny how a supposedly banned user is still gaming the system:

https://loyce.club/trust/2022-07-23_Sat_05.08h/131361.html

Trust list for: Timelord2067 (Trust: +13 / =10 / -0) (DT1 (-7) 913 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2022-07-23_Sat_05.08h)
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~Timelord2067's judgement is Distrusted by:
45. NEW naim027 Banned! (Trust: neutral) (517 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

An interesting bit of information, thank you.

I would have thought a ban would constitute not having access to the forum after logging in only to read a message about being banned. However, to be banned and yet still be able to access sections of the forum such as a trust list and read only PMs could have some benefits for the banned user. If that is the case then the banned user should at least use that privilege carefully and not to use it to distrust people who simply agree with the ban.

About Lies? Sometimes you will find that you really don't have any proof to prove something other than saying I am not lying.

Who are you trying to fool?

Are you still claiming you're not a liar?

Have you checked my response carefully? I guess no, I only know the rules after November 19th, 2021 because, on that

Well, I was Wondering Why There is No Dedicated Page For Forum Rules. And Somehow I violated One Of The Rules And I got a Message With the link to this Topic. it's helpful. Thank you Very Much.

Does March start after November on your calendar?

I cannot recall someone literally begging to have his account unbanned for such a long period of time, there is simply a desperation in his attempts to receive a reprieve and that is because he wants to start earning his signature campaign fee. That is his driving factor here and nothing else.

Now, that in itself is not bad thing because c.$400 a month is a lot of money in his country especially to make and that just from one account here. He put a lot of effort in building up his naim027 account for that specific purpose and now it is banned therefore it will hurt financially and in one sense it is understandable he would try every way possible to try to have it rescinded including by sending PMs in the hope of having some support in order to pressure moderators.

I think he should accept the ban and simply move on...

[Dic3L0v3r]

Additionally but more important, what are all plagiarized posts (~ 70 as I saw in OP) were made for what intention? To share news, to hit post quota, to get money from bounties or campaigns. If during that period, no financial-earning intention behind, I think it is somewhat acceptable. Of course, rule was broken but if no financial incentive behind, it's somewhat acceptable.

Thanks for your support. I want to correct it a bit. About 70 posts, not all of them are plagiarized. I wanted to say, From 2017 to October 2021, I made only 70 posts in 5 years, and not all of them were plagiarized. Back then I was not on any signature campaign. I received my first merit on October 16th, 2021. On the date of November 19th, I had only 60 Merits.

The Post Poker Player mentioned was made on March 30 2021 and I had 0 merits back then.

I cannot recall someone literally begging to have his account unbanned for such a long period of time, there is simply a desperation in his attempts to receive a reprieve and that is because he wants to start earning his signature campaign fee. That is his driving factor here and nothing else.

Now, that in itself is not bad thing because c.$400 a month is a lot of money in his country especially to make and that just from one account here. He put a lot of effort in building up his naim027 account for that specific purpose and now it is banned therefore it will hurt financially and in one sense it is understandable he would try every way possible to try to have it rescinded including by sending PMs in the hope of having some support in order to pressure moderators.

I think he should accept the ban and simply move on...

There was a history of being unbanned after two years. Don't act like you don't know anything. About another thing, let me quote myself

I can't stop laughing when I see people talking about my salary. I saw that this was discussed on another thread too and Rikafip also joined there.

Well, Some of you may know or not know that I work for a casino platform as a Support agent Cum Chat Moderator, and I am already getting about more than 6x from the average salary in Bangladesh. That's from my main Job. I also do Telegram Chat Moderation for a start-up platform and get a good amount from there. I have some GPU mining rigs which generate a good amount for me (Mining profitability lowered drastically now). I do gamble a lot in different casinos (You may notice me on the Blackjack leaderboard). That's not the income source but sometimes I get a good amount from gambling. I also do volunteer jobs for a charity organization. Taking care of an Old woman with my personal fund. @MahdiRakib Donated twice. Recently I opened a Lending service to boost up my work (It didn't help much). I feel a bit sad because @MahdiRakib knows a lot about me and I asked him to respond to this thread. But, Either he is too busy or doesn't want to get distrusted by someone who started removing everyone from the trust list if they say something positive about me. It's absurd to talk about my salary here since this is mainly for my unban appeal. Sorry if I am moving off-topic but I had to clear up some things.

One more thing, He was always on my Distrust List. If you want to check, Check Two month ago's data.

[Poker Player]

I wrote my reasons above, clear enough.

I agree that the Mr.Right85 case sets a precedent. If from now on the forum is going to be much more lenient with plagiarism issues, they could make it public and thus give free rein to plagiarism much more than it is already done.

In the case of naim027, since you mention this:

I don't know about naim027 too clear but months ago I saw naim027's thread in Lending child board. As I know, since then, the user started to rank up well enough from Full Member or Senior Member (maybe from Full Member) to the Hero Member rank.

I take this opportunity to quote the last post of the thread. Someone commenting on his ban:

Good news, probably trying to farm easy green trust. I was very suspicious when he was only catering to high rep users.

Those of us who trusted him and no longer do, and those who never trusted him, see in this type of actions something premeditated that probably has more to do with what that comment says than with something altruistic.

[Dic3L0v3r]

Good news, probably trying to farm easy green trust. I was very suspicious when he was only catering to high rep users.

Those of us who trusted him and no longer do, and those who never trusted him, see in this type of actions something premeditated that probably has more to do with what that comment says than with something altruistic.

I am not sure what should I say now. Should I laugh or should I cry? Do you ever see that Lending Service accepts Applications below Full member rank? I don't think you have read the rules of my lending service thread. I don't think Any service wants to give loans to Jr. Member or a Member ranked member. If they do, I think it's too risky. I didn't want to take the risk after shasan and Little Mouse warned me.

Rank doesn't matter, but I don't expect applications from below Full Member rank.

PP, No matter whatever you say. But, it looks like a few of you guys are angry with me and trying to figure out every possible negative thing. Why so personal? Kudos to you guys.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Lastly, if we count for how recent plagiarism reports were handled very softly, naim027 should be unbanned or at least a second chance. I know Mr.Right85 even made many plagiarism to earn in Livecasino.io's campaign. Got acceptance from manager and started to plagiarize after that. No ban in any sort, so why naim027 were banned like this?

If we talk about the fact that today's ban rules are no longer relevant and do not work for the user, Mr.Right85, then let's officially declare this.

So far, more than one topic has been created with rules on plagiarism, and so far we see that there are no solutions. That is, do the rules work? Did I understand correctly?

Then let's go back in time and ask, those users who were banned in the past, and received privileges from the moderators for unlocking their account, what did they pay?

I was that user. Many thanks to the moderators for their attention and kindness.

I had a two-month ban on posting on the forum, and after a year-long ban on wearing and participating in signature companies.

Now, given that many here agree that naim027 is of value to them on the forum, maybe it's worth being fair?

Isn't it a fair move to ban participation in the company's signature? Deadlines are set by the moderators, but again, it should not be less than a year, right?

However, as suchmoon said, you should not turn your appeal into a "dear diary"

You are allowed to post only about your ban appeal. Turning this thread into "dear diary" isn't helping your case, not that it had any chance to begin with.

But this guy is not endowed with modesty and patience.
Unfortunately. He invites the topic through the PM. Is it like waiting patiently? I see it as a requirement.

[Rikafip]

It should be two cases but I am keen on the first case.

• hacker1001101001
• shasan

Ah yes thank you, that 2nd case I heard about was @hacker1001101001, just couldn't remember his name as I don't see him around anymore.

There was a history of being unbanned after two years.

Its true that RegulusHr got unbanned after 2 years, but in that period he wrote only 6 posts and I don't think that he went around PM people asking for support. The more active you are, the more desperate you will appear.

I think he should accept the ban and simply move on...

If he is here only for the money, "moving on" would mean creating the new account and starting from the scratch which I think many of those permanently banned do, and that's one of the reason why I would like to see signature ban being used more. It of course doesn't mean that people would stop making alt accounts after getting banned, but I do think that some would rather continue being active on the main account.

[Little Mouse]

However, as suchmoon said, you should not turn your appeal into a "dear diary"

True indeed. This thread should be only about discussion on the ban/unban and reason for removing the ban. It’s surprising that how some people are bringing how much Naim would earn in Bangladesh and how much in the forum and a comparison. People should know the average income of a country doesn’t mean everybody earns that amount only. Also, there are some more stupid discussion going on.
I can't remember if I have posted in this thread more than 1 time before. As I said, he was a great contributor in our local thread. Some of you may know how low quality thread it was back in the day but now it was getting some good discussion every now and then. Losing a member like Naim from our local discussion would be a great loss, at least I consider in that way.
Good luck Naim.

[LoyceV]

Funny how a supposedly banned user is still gaming the system:

https://loyce.club/trust/2022-07-23_Sat_05.08h/131361.html

Trust list for: Timelord2067 (Trust: +13 / =10 / -0) (DT1 (-7) 913 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2022-07-23_Sat_05.08h)
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~Timelord2067's judgement is Distrusted by:
45. NEW naim027 Banned! (Trust: neutral) (517 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

That's not "gaiming the system", it doesn't matter for the system. Being banned makes the forum read-only, and adjusting your Trust lists changes how you read the forum. Banned users could be on DT1 but won't be re-elected since they can't fullfill the "post within the last 30 days" requirement. So their Trust list only matters to themselves, and the users who included them. In naim027's case, those are 2 users who aren't included by anyone else, so that's where the "gaiming" ends.

I'm pretty sure doing what Timelord2067 said he did isn't possible.  Or is it?

It's possible, and makes sense. I'm now curious if a banned user can also create or remove feedback.

In brief, I support naim027 here, like LoyceV and The Pharmacist.

Does LoyceV still support him? I have not heard him speak out recently.

I'm a bit more lenient towards plagiarism than I was when massive numbers of shitposters were spamming many boards with posts they copied from a few pages earlier. The Merit system took care of that.
I'm not a Mod, so my opinion doesn't matter. For what it's worth: I didn't report naim027 for plagiarism when I first saw it, because in this quoted post he instantly admitted not being the author, and clearly he didn't know about the plagiarism rule. But I'm not a babysitter, so if a user doesn't fix all his plagiarism after a warning, that's just dumb.

Don't forget that banning for plagiarism is very rare on the internet. Some of the biggest websites on the planet wouldn't even exist without plagiarism (and massive privacy violations).

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Now, that in itself is not bad thing because c.$400 a month is a lot of money in his country especially to make and that just from one account here. He put a lot of effort in building up his naim027 account for that specific purpose and now it is banned therefore it will hurt financially and in one sense it is understandable he would try every way possible to try to have it rescinded including by sending PMs in the hope of having some support in order to pressure moderators.

What is your point? If today for some reason your account is banned then you are saying you will not pressure moderators. I highly doubt. You seems to enjoy hurting others with unnecessary arguments. If signature campaign was not exists then I highly doubt you would contribute to the forum at all. I saw many users who do not wear signature at the beginning, they think it helps them to build up a quick reputation. I read a few response in scam accusations against dulebit (topic a, topic b). A JollyGood is completely opposite in the threads. The aggression you show towards others was missing. In fact from the response anyone will easily mistakenly think that you are hired by them to advocate for Duelbits. Why did I miss the suspicious character of JollyGood but see a completely new JollyGood who single handily taken the lead to clear their employers name?

In brief, I support naim027 here, like LoyceV and The Pharmacist.

I would also like to see naim027 to get his account unlocked. If he was a completely shitposter then I would not show him any mercy.

Don't forget that banning for plagiarism is very rare on the internet. Some of the biggest websites on the planet wouldn't even exist without plagiarism (and massive privacy violations).

The amount of pressure a low rank and newbie account takes in the forum, someday we will find us isolated from the internet.

[Igebotz]

Just my $0.02 in favor of lifting his ban.

Just my 0.004 cent, which is twice what The pharmacist offers

Your math sucks The Pharmacist offered 500 times more.

I'm sorry, I....just had to laugh at that one.  I actually pulled out a calculator and did (0.004)($0.01)(500) since I can't move decimals and do multiplication in my head, and you're right on.  I've no idea where igehhh was coming from with that statement, because even $0.004 isn't double what $0.02 is.  Sorry for veering off topic, but I admire your attention to detail.

In reality, that was a mistake. I only noticed it because LoyceV mentioned it; he's always that one guy who sees everything. It was an error of one extra "0," which would have been difficult for any random user to notice.

Anyway, good luck naim027.  I'm rooting for you, and I don't believe I'm naive in doing so.  If you get unbanned, don't break the trust I have in you, eh?

Well, there is always that one person who believes in us no matter what, but we don't always realize this until we get into trouble. naim027 I hope you now know who your true gees are.

I'm pretty sure doing what Timelord2067 said he did isn't possible.  Or is it?

It's possible, and makes sense. I'm now curious if a banned user can also create or remove feedback.

Why would the system prevent banned users from accessing the merits system while allowing them to access the trust settings? If banned users can provide or remove feedback, we're in big trouble. The system will be tampered with, just as naim027 did with Timelord2026.

[LoyceV]

The amount of pressure a low rank and newbie account takes in the forum, someday we will find us isolated from the internet.

Agreed. It's always good to check back why I created my plagiarism thread:

Users lhmrij and xca900174 deserve a permban. Update: banned.

lhmrij
I noticed this post (archived):

I wonder how the recent BTC TX backlog will affect future byte distributions.

This is a direct copy/past from this post (archived):

I wonder how the recent BTC TX backlog will affect future byte distributions.

I checked the post he made before this one (archived):

Blackcoin's growth is actually quite modest compared to many other alts. I wouldn't read too much into this without context.

It's also a copy/past from someone else (archived):

Blackcoin's growth is actually quite modest compared to many other alts. I wouldn't read too much into this without context.

Edit:
xca900174
This user does the same. Copy/paste (archived):

i have two questions, when the next distribution will be? and can i link the same bitcoin address to another byteball address for the next distribution or i need more bitcoin linked with new address

Original post (archived):

i have two questions, when the next distribution will be? and can i link the same bitcoin address to another byteball address for the next distribution or i need more bitcoin linked with new address?

I doubt they speaks English. Both are Chinese, both use the same SONM ICO signature.

Those users won't be missed by anyone.

I think we should be more lenient for users who copied some text from another website because they found it interesting.

[tranthidung]

Why would the system prevent banned users from accessing the merits system while allowing them to access the trust settings? If banned users can provide or remove feedback, we're in big trouble. The system will be tampered with, just as naim027 did with Timelord2026.

I don't know because I am not banned. 

But my guess goes to

• User only can modify their trust list after a ban
• User can not write a new trust feedback or remove existing trust feedback after a ban
• naim027 can confirm it if he want

[Pmalek]

Is this user causing more trouble than doing good?
Will the forum profit more if he/she is gone and can't post anymore, or if he/she stays?

There are many ways in which people can do good, which would then be beneficial to the forum. If the person will be missed in any way in which they contribute to Bitcointalk, the admins could consider a lighter sentence. 

[Dic3L0v3r]

naim027 can confirm it if he wants

I confirm, that I can modify my trust list which I confirmed to LoyceV via Email a few weeks ago. I cannot leave any new feedback but I can delete old feedback that I left.
One Thing; I am saying again- Timelord Guy was always on my Distrust list. For some reason, I removed him a few weeks ago. Last week I added him again.

[lovesmayfamilis]

naim027 can confirm it if he wants

I confirm, that I can modify my trust list which I confirmed to LoyceV via Email a few weeks ago. I cannot leave any new feedback but I can delete old feedback that I left.
One Thing; I am saying again- Timelord Guy was always on my Distrust list. For some reason, I removed him a few weeks ago. Last week I added him again.

hysterics?

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

The system will be tampered with, just as naim027 did with Timelord2026.

I hope I did not get you wrong. Why do you think by tilde a user naim027 tampered the system?  

Those users won't be missed by anyone.

It's exactly the reason I said if a user was shitposter and would not have any contribution then I would not show him a mercy good faith (I think mercy is a wrong choice of word which I used earlier).

naim027, have you requested hilariousandco to check your case? He is one of the most active global moderator who cares a lot to response user in the concerned threads.

[Dic3L0v3r]

naim027, have you requested hilariousandco to check your case? He is one of the most active global moderator who cares a lot to response user in the concerned threads.

Yes, I PM'ed Him twice. One right after creating this thread, Another one a few days ago. I have PM'ed theymos, Cyrus, hilariousandco and mprep. mprep already replied me;

Don't think I've handled the ban and I don't handle ban appeals for bans I didn't create.

[Igebotz]

naim027 can confirm it if he wants

I confirm, that I can modify my trust list which I confirmed to LoyceV via Email a few weeks ago. I cannot leave any new feedback but I can delete old feedback that I left.
One Thing; I am saying again- Timelord Guy was always on my Distrust list. For some reason, I removed him a few weeks ago. Last week I added him again.

hysterics?

If banned users can change and delete old feedback, the system has a bug! This should not be happening; banned users should not be able to access anything other than the "only read mode." Theymos should get up and fix up. Satoshi won't like this.

The system will be tampered with, just as naim027 did with Timelord2026.

I hope I did not get you wrong. Why do you think by tilde a user naim027 tampered the system?

I mean, he's still adjusting his trust settings, and he excluded Timelord2026 from his trust system via his banned account a few weeks ago for being against him! That is "tempered," right?

[Dic3L0v3r]

I mean, he's still adjusting his trust settings, and he excluded Timelord2026 from his trust system via his banned account a few weeks ago for being against him! That is "tempered," right?

Well, Have you verified his claims? I excluded him from my trust list in December 2021 which can be found on the LoyceV Trust list Viewer

That was already discussed in this thread too. I have explained why I don't trust his judgment;

Hello naim027, can you give me a break down as to why you Default Trust Distrust me, please?

Well, That was a long story Timelord. Seems you forgot everything. Once dkbit98 accused me and Poker Player as alts without any evidence and connections. You as a DT1, are Supposed to be investigated further before supporting his claims. You also claimed that my account had a connection with another random guy based on the Bitcoin address I copied from previous signature participants without verifying further. Later, Mr dkbit98 removed the neutral tag from my account after Poker Player submitted some proof of his claims.

Moreover, I saw you have left some feedback which is not correct in my opinion.

For example, You have left positive feedback to Scam busters. (Do you believe scam busters are unlike scam someone?), You left negative feedback just because someone applied on a paused campaign (That's cannot be a reason to be tagged). You have left negative feedback on some Ban evasion account (That's useless, Report to Mods via a thread instead)

So this is not just because he doesn't support my ban appeal. There are a few more people doesn't support my ban appeal. Did I exclude them? Do you still believe it's tempered?

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I mean, he's still adjusting his trust settings, and he excluded Timelord2026 from his trust system via his banned account a few weeks ago for being against him! That is "tempered," right?

Adjusting trust setting is completely fine there are nothing to accuse one for it. If this was the case then anyone when add-remove someone then everyone should start to find the reason and starts to accuse them for nothing.

temper can also refer to one's mood in general; if you use the word in this sense, you might describe someone's temper as "angry" or "mild."

Your use of "tampered" was clearly indicating the mood. In other words you were accusing him for adjusting his trust setting. Was it necessary?

A user is here to get his banned account back. He is trying to convince the people who can help him to unban the account but some of you are so negatively attacking that it sounds like you want no one in the forum have their place other than some scam busters.

[Igebotz]

So this is not just because he doesn't support my ban appeal. There are a few more people doesn't support my ban appeal. Did I exclude them? Do you still believe it's tempered?

I confirm, that I can modify my trust list which I confirmed to LoyceV via Email a few weeks ago. I cannot leave any new feedback but I can delete old feedback that I left.
One Thing; I am saying again- Timelord Guy was always on my Distrust list. For some reason, I removed him a few weeks Sometimes ago. Last week I added him again.

I mean your English wasn't clear at first! But now it is!

I mean, he's still adjusting his trust settings, and he excluded Timelord2026 from his trust system via his banned account a few weeks ago for being against him! That is "tempered," right?

Adjusting trust setting is completely fine there are nothing to accuse one for it. If this was the case then anyone when add-remove someone then everyone should start to find the reason and starts to accuse them for nothing.

I mean, how? I've never accused anyone? I was surprised to learn that trust settings could be changed even after being banned! And I made it clear to theymos that if this is permitted, the DT system will be manipulated by enraged banned users! Lady!

Your use of "tampered" was clearly indicating the mood. In other words you were accusing him for adjusting his trust setting. Was it necessary?

Temper = Modify; can be used interchangeably in some cases depending on the sentence. You are the only one who misunderstood my points.

A user is here to get his banned account back. He is trying to convince the people who can help him to unban the account but some of you are so negatively attacking that it sounds like you want no one in the forum have their place other than some scam busters.

Don't do this!  I mean, if naim027 has 10 supporters, I'm one of them, if he has 3 supporters, I'm one of them, and if he has none, I'm dead. From the onset, I've been rooting for him! I gave him my 0.04 cents support. You have my support, naim027.

[Poker Player]

naim027 can confirm it if he wants

I confirm, that I can modify my trust list which I confirmed to LoyceV via Email a few weeks ago. I cannot leave any new feedback but I can delete old feedback that I left.
One Thing; I am saying again- Timelord Guy was always on my Distrust list. For some reason, I removed him a few weeks ago. Last week I added him again.

hysterics?

I believe him here. For a long time I thought I had you on my trust list, lovesmayfamilis, and one day I realized you weren't there, so I added you recently. I don't know if I thought I had added you but I never did, or if when I went to modify the trust list, I accidentally deleted you.

I checked naim027's trust list back in the day, which was very similar to mine, and I also distrust Timelord2067.

Don't forget that banning for plagiarism is very rare on the internet. Some of the biggest websites on the planet wouldn't even exist without plagiarism (and massive privacy violations).

It is very curious that you say that, because it follows from what you say that we should be more tolerant with plagiarism, but by that rule of three also with privacy violations.

In my case I wouldn't mind if the forum was more tolerant with plagiarism in general, but naim027 is a gem: plagiarism, alt abuse and ban evasion is no small thing.

I am not sure what should I say now. Should I laugh or should I cry? Do you ever see that Lending Service accepts Applications below Full member rank? I don't think you have read the rules of my lending service thread. I don't think Any service wants to give loans to Jr. Member or a Member ranked member. If they do, I think it's too risky. I didn't want to take the risk after shasan and Little Mouse warned me.  

You may be honest here, and I don't know loans very well but if I were to lend to lower ranked members I would simply demand collateral.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I mean, how? I've never accused anyone? I was surprised to learn that trust settings could be changed even after being banned! And I made it clear to theymos that if this is permitted, the DT system will be manipulated by enraged banned users! Lady!

Nooooooooooooooooo! I think it's your 2nd time 😉

Anyway, I accept your words. But it looked to me you were using him as an example of tempering the system in a negative manner. Don't take me wrong. It's annoying to read negative arguments especially when someone act like a tax collector and start auditing how much monthly income the account was making.

[Timelord2067]

In their haste to bluff their way back into their other alt being unbanned, Dic3L0v3r forgot to post the remainder of that section of the thread:

How is that connected to me?

Because you supported his claims without further investigation. Later, Mr dkbit98 realized that Poker Player and I are not alts but you didn't change your statement.

I'll ask again:

Where do I say that you and Poker Player are alts?

You didn't say that directly. But check the posts I referred to in my previous posts.

Btw, Your approach seems good than last time. I may review my trust list this week.

In fact I never said it at all.

Given I've barely posted in this thread, why the sudden U-Turn by your alt that you're so doggedly trying to have unbanned?

[JollyGood]

I can't stop laughing when I see people talking about my salary. I saw that this was discussed on another thread too and Rikafip also joined there.

Well, Some of you may know or not know that I work for a casino platform as a Support agent Cum Chat Moderator, and I am already getting about more than 6x from the average salary in Bangladesh. That's from my main Job. I also do Telegram Chat Moderation for a start-up platform and get a good amount from there. I have some GPU mining rigs which generate a good amount for me (Mining profitability lowered drastically now). I do gamble a lot in different casinos (You may notice me on the Blackjack leaderboard). That's not the income source but sometimes I get a good amount from gambling. I also do volunteer jobs for a charity organization. Taking care of an Old woman with my personal fund. @MahdiRakib Donated twice. Recently I opened a Lending service to boost up my work (It didn't help much). I feel a bit sad because @MahdiRakib knows a lot about me and I asked him to respond to this thread. But, Either he is too busy or doesn't want to get distrusted by someone who started removing everyone from the trust list if they say something positive about me. It's absurd to talk about my salary here since this is mainly for my unban appeal. Sorry if I am moving off-topic but I had to clear up some things.

6x? That is good, I am glad and happy for you.

It means losing out on a signature campaign income from the naim027 account should not affect you too much especially since you are mining as well as working as chat moderator for a start-up.

I am not sure what should I say now. Should I laugh or should I cry? Do you ever see that Lending Service accepts Applications below Full member rank? I don't think you have read the rules of my lending service thread. I don't think Any service wants to give loans to Jr. Member or a Member ranked member. If they do, I think it's too risky. I didn't want to take the risk after shasan and Little Mouse warned me. 

You may be honest here, and I don't know loans very well but if I were to lend to lower ranked members I would simply demand collateral.

For me the lending service thread was part and parcel of trying to increase rank as fast as possible as well as to gain trust.

[Igebotz]

I mean, how? I've never accused anyone? I was surprised to learn that trust settings could be changed even after being banned! And I made it clear to theymos that if this is permitted, the DT system will be manipulated by enraged banned users! Lady!

Nooooooooooooooooo! I think it's your 2nd time 😉

Anyway, I accept your words. But it looked to me you were using him as an example of tempering the system in a negative manner. Don't take me wrong. It's annoying to read negative arguments especially when someone act like a tax collector and start auditing how much monthly income the account was making.

When I called you a man, you said I was mistaken; now I call you a lady, and you still say No! Are you some kind of robot? Your username has "female." Written over it. C'mon, we've talked a few times, but I'm not inviting you out for dinner because I live on the other side of the world. Only the Internet, surrounded by water.

Back to the topic; anyone wearing a paid sig or avatar lacks the right to audit or criticize others for profiting from their accounts. These businesses earn ten times what they pay us for advertising; it's a win-win situation.

[Dic3L0v3r]

It means losing out on a signature campaign income from the naim027 account should not affect you too much especially since you are mining as well as working as a chat moderator for a start-up.

Right. It doesn't affect me at all. But everything I earn adds up. That's it. As I already stated before, I will be happy to accept the signature ban. I don't think it will affect me at all. Not knowing the rules in newbie days isn't too bad. But, not correcting myself after knowing the rules was dumb. That's how I think at this moment.

@JollyGood. My Default Trustlist Trust your judgment means I trust your Judgment. You are a DT-1 and I expect you will dig a bit before agreeing with someone's claims. Of course, I respect your opinion. Before I get banned, I had a PM Conversation with you and you know how I try to find out my mistakes and how much I care about them. At least from that conversation, you can judge me. I still Trust your Judgement. I hope you will check the conversation between you and me.

For me the lending service thread was part and parcel of trying to increase rank as fast as possible as well as to gain trust.

Well, on the date I created the Lending Service thread, I had 348 merits while I cannot remember my activity but it was lower than 300. The day I got banned, I had over 515 Merits and still, my activity was like 310+ something. Do you believe without activity I will rank up with the merits I have received from the lending service thread? I have receive 13 merits from the lending service thread. Do see it as ranking up pipeline?

[KingsDen]

It means losing out on a signature campaign income from the naim027 account should not affect you too much especially since you are mining as well as working as a chat moderator for a start-up.

Right. It doesn't affect me at all. But everything I earn adds up. That's it. As I already stated before, I will be happy to accept the signature ban. I don't think it will affect me at all. Not knowing the rules in newbie days isn't too bad. But, not correcting myself after knowing the rules was dumb. That's how I think at this moment.

@JollyGood. My Default Trustlist Trust your judgment means I trust your Judgment. You are a DT-1 and I expect you will dig a bit before agreeing with someone's claims. Of course, I respect your opinion. Before I get banned, I had a PM Conversation with you and you know how I try to find out my mistakes and how much I care about them. At least from that conversation, you can judge me. I still Trust your Judgement. I hope you will check the conversation between you and me.

Naim027, you have made your points and you have provided some evidences, you also acknowledged your transgressions, it is now left for moderators to review your case and pardon you if you are lucky.

I will strongly advice you avoid engaging in distractive arguments and conversations, they are making your chances of being unbanned slimmer. They do so by spamming the thread which will make it difficult for moderators to locate your core points and make decisions.

Goodluck!

[JollyGood]

@JollyGood. My Default Trustlist Trust your judgment means I trust your Judgment. You are a DT-1 and I expect you will dig a bit before agreeing with someone's claims. Of course, I respect your opinion. Before I get banned, I had a PM Conversation with you and you know how I try to find out my mistakes and how much I care about them. At least from that conversation, you can judge me. I still Trust your Judgement. I hope you will check the conversation between you and me.

I found no PMs from your Dic3L0v3r account and I think 3 PMs from your naim027 account. When the PMs were sent I was strongly under the impression it was all theatrics on your part and that these two were not your only accounts here.

For me the lending service thread was part and parcel of trying to increase rank as fast as possible as well as to gain trust.

Well, on the date I created the Lending Service thread, I had 348 merits while I cannot remember my activity but it was lower than 300. The day I got banned, I had over 515 Merits and still, my activity was like 310+ something. Do you believe without activity I will rank up with the merits I have received from the lending service thread? I have receive 13 merits from the lending service thread. Do see it as ranking up pipeline?

I saw it then as an attempt to do what you thought needed to be done using your naim027 account in order to gain more and more trust as fast as possible for your own needs and I stand by that view.

How many accounts active and banned do you have in this forum?

[Dic3L0v3r]

I found no PMs from your Dic3L0v3r account and I think 3 PMs from your naim027 account. When the PMs were sent I was strongly under the impression it was all theatrics on your part and that these two were not your only accounts here.

Yes, I was talking about those three PM's where I was asking you why your default trust Doesn't trust my Judgment.

The PM Was:

Hi JollyGood!

How are you? I hope you are OK with this pandemic. I saw you have left neutral feedback on my profile which I deserve, and it's okay. But, recently, I figured out you also distrust my judgment. I am not sure if I have done something wrong. It will be appreciated if you share the reason. I may correct my mistakes in the future. But, If you don't share what I did wrong, maybe I will never know. I am not asking you to remove me from your distrust list. Just let me know what I can improve. I Trust your judgment means you did the right thing. I respect your opinion and your judgment.

Regards!
Naim027

And Your Reply Was:

Hello,

I hope you are well.

It took a little longer than expected but I updated got round to removing you from my trust exclusion list.

Have a good day

Kind Regards

How many accounts active and banned do you have in this forum?

What are you talking about? Did you just wake up from a long sleep and you were dreaming that I have another account or I have more than two accounts?

[JollyGood]

The PM Was:

Yes I it was all theatrics on your part, that was my opinion then and it is still my opinion now. I did not believe you for one second.

I thought you were trying to cosy up to anybody as long as it served your purpose and your agenda. I removed your naim027 account from my exclusion list in order to give you slack so you would give away your suspected alt-accounts that was all.

How many accounts active and banned do you have in this forum?

What are you talking about? Did you just wake up from a long sleep and you were dreaming that I have another account or I have more than two accounts?

And you refused to answer the question? Just state the number without over-the-top drama.

[Dic3L0v3r]

How many accounts active and banned do you have in this forum?

What are you talking about? Did you just wake up from a long sleep and you were dreaming that I have another account or I have more than two accounts?

And you refused to answer the question? Just state the number without over-the-top drama.

First, I have only two accounts. 2nd, I didn't know you turned into a jark from a good scam buster.

Seems like I should follow Kingsden's suggestions!

[Poker Player]

I see something like this as much better for your ban appeal. I believe that by insisting from time to time with a bump and nothing else, at some point you will get unbanned.

But I don't decide anything.

[shasan]

I see something like this as much better for your ban appeal. I believe that by insisting from time to time with a bump and nothing else, at some point you will get unbanned.

But I don't decide anything.

Op bumping this thread to get attention of the admin as still no admin responded here and I think same happened on pm too. I can understand it as I have not got any response while I got banned. I think as op is the asset of the forum especially for the Bengali community admin should give a chance to op.

[Poker Player]

Op bumping this thread to get attention of the admin as still no admin responded here and I think same happened on pm too. I can understand it as I have not got any response while I got banned. I think as op is the asset of the forum especially for the Bengali community admin should give a chance to op.

They don't usually say anything in these threads. Most likely scenario is that at some point in the future, a moderator will say that he has been unbanned. At least that's how I remember it was in the case of Pokapoka124 and some others.

[Dic3L0v3r]

BUMP

Op bumping this thread to get attention of the admin as still no admin responded here and I think same happened on pm too. I can understand it as I have not got any response while I got banned. I think as op is the asset of the forum especially for the Bengali community admin should give a chance to op.

They don't usually say anything in these threads. Most likely scenario is that at some point in the future, a moderator will say that he has been unbanned. At least that's how I remember it was in the case of Pokapoka124 and some others.

I don't have to hurry. I will wait for the moderators. I won't send them messages. Meanwhile, I am getting more negative feedback without proper reference. I cannot talk about it because it will be off-topic here.

[Poker Player]

Meanwhile, I am getting more negative feedback without proper reference. I cannot talk about it because it will be off-topic here.

My understanding is that you should not be talking about anything other than ban appeal. However, I think I can comment on this, as it is related to the ban. What I do see is that icopress changed the tag from positive to neutral, being what he wrote the same, and in your Naim027's account the one I see that is the last one is Timelord's, that although it doesn't have a reference, what he says is true. It simply says that you have been banned.

It appears to me as untrusted feedback because I distrust him.

Don't worry, move on, and keep bumping the thread from time to time.

[tranthidung]

I see that is the last one is Timelord's, that although it doesn't have a reference, what he says is true. It simply says that you have been banned.

Leaving a negative feedback because that account was banned is not a correct use even the information is true.

It appears to me as untrusted feedback because I distrust him.

If you distrust him, you will see it as untrusted negative feedback because it is in Red.

[Poker Player]

Leaving a negative feedback because that account was banned is not a correct use even the information is true.

That's why, among other things, I have him on ignore and on my distrust list.

If you distrust him, you will see it as untrusted negative feedback because it is in Red.

Yes but since I distrust him, it's fine with me if he wants to put it in red or hot pink. It has no credibility for me.

[icopress]

Everyone deserves a second chance. 

[Dic3L0v3r]

Everyone deserves a second chance. 

Thanks, dear! I appreciate your support.

[Dic3L0v3r]

Bump.

A Little update. At last, I know one of the Admins (Cyrus) Saw this thread, and he has read a few posts. He said he would revisit this.
I am going a bit off-topic today. I hope, Mods will give me a chance to share it. A casino scammed me. I want to create a Scam accusation thread with all the evidence. But, due to the ban Evasion. I cannot make it. That's why I am going off-topic and looking for input from the community.

In September 2021, I was Hired by Flush.com as a Chat Moderator.
User: FlushCasino
ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5361068.0

My Position was Chat Moderator, and My Responsibility was handling the chat and answering user questions.
They Offered $100/Week, and I agreed. After that, I started working they were paying me. The Platform was in Beta, so it didn't have too many users. My work was too easy because of that. So, Mr. Social@Flush knocked me again and said; The Management decided to lower your salary because we are still in beta mode and do not have many users. I ask, "Do you believe 8 hours of work are worth $75/week?". He said it's not like 8 hours of hard work. You may not have a single task in a day. So I agreed once again.

I was working, and they were paying me weekly. Since the Platform was in beta mode and they kept updating, I reported minor glitches and bugs. Since June last Week, Mr. Social@Flush has stopped responding to me on Telegram and on-site Support. Still, I was working and expecting a salary. I had a personal email which is Chat@Flush.com, and my Account, FlushChatMod, was created with this email. On September 4 or 5, They changed the email password, and I lost access to my account. They stopped responding to me. I thought he was too busy launching and modifying the Platform. So I kept waiting. Last Week, I knocked on the on-site Support and saw a new guy sitting on the Support. I asked why they didn't respond to me. If they don't want me to work for them, It's not hard to say you are fired or we don't need you anymore. The guy had no answer, and I requested he forward the message to the owner. He said I would deliver, and that's it. He also defended the Platform and said, Why should we pay you? There was nothing to do.

I had no choice other than writing it here because of the ban evasion.

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[AB de Royse777]

I had no choice other than writing it here because of the ban evasion.

I think it's better if we rewrite the ban evasion rule. It should include Scam accusation with appeal option in Meta.

[Stalker22]

I had no choice other than writing it here because of the ban evasion.

I think it's better if we rewrite the ban evasion rule. It should include Scam accusation with appeal option in Meta.

Either that or the moderators can make an exception in this case. It would definitely be better if this accusation against FlushCasino was in a separate thread and in a proper board for better discussion. I hope one of the moderators will look into this.

[UserU]

Either that or the moderators can make an exception in this case. It would definitely be better if this accusation against FlushCasino was in a separate thread and in a proper board for better discussion. I hope one of the moderators will look into this.

While the mods draw the lots, I've helped OP to post his quote on that thread. That should gain some attention

[Awaklara]

Bump.

A Little update. At last, I know one of the Admins (Cyrus) Saw this thread, and he has read a few posts. He said he would revisit this.

You get a little chance, some say, everyone deserves another chance. maybe you will get it.
but in my opinion, what is being reviewed is not from this account. but will probably focus on what you have contributed from your Ban account.
but this attempt should be considered Mod, to unban your account. or maybe lighten your sanctions like Ban signature space.

I wish you luck.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I think it's better if we rewrite the ban evasion rule. It should include Scam accusation with appeal option in Meta.

I disagree with that.  If exceptions are made for banned members to post scam accusations in their ban appeal thread, not only is it off-topic (it's in Meta and the thread has nothing to do with outside issues), it leaves the door wide open for more exceptions to be made for banned members to keep posting on the forum when they shouldn't be.

Naim027, I've supported your ban appeal from the start and still do, but I don't think you should have posted that here.  I'd love to hear what the mods have to say, because this is the first time I've seen someone do this in a ban appeal thread.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Bump.

A Little update. At last, I know one of the Admins (Cyrus) Saw this thread, and he has read a few posts. He said he would revisit this.

May think you're shooting yourself in the foot right now? Should you break the rules again if you were told that your account would be reviewed? It has already been observed that the topic of appeal implies that there is only one issue to be discussed. But you diligently turn it into your diary. I'm quoting it again because there's only one problem you need to worry about right now.

You are allowed to post only about your ban appeal. Turning this thread into "dear diary" isn't helping your case, not that it had any chance to begin with.

Just be patient, don't try to be tricky. In addition, now that you know for sure that the result will be visible shortly, perhaps you should not complicate the situation.

[hilariousandco]

I unbanned it.

[LoyceV]

Naim027, I've supported your ban appeal from the start and still do, but I don't think you should have posted that here.  I'd love to hear what the mods have to say, because this is the first time I've seen someone do this in a ban appeal thread.

I've seen requests from banned users to (for instance) post in their lending thread to notify business partners. I'd say it's one of those cases of "not great, not terrible".

I unbanned it.

Case closed.

One more thing: @Timelord2067: what's with the negative feedback?

User was banned on or around the 19th of May, 2022.

https://bpip.org/Profile?id=1187984

This doesn't match the description:

Code:

Negative - You think that trading with this person is high-risk.

[shahzadafzal]

Congratulation naim027 these things are rare but happens

I unbanned it.

[lovesmayfamilis]

naim027, I also join in the congratulations. I removed the neutral review because I think that having survived the time of the ban, you will never step on the old rake again. Being in your position a few years ago, I, like no one else, can understand your joy. You have not given up for a long time. It is worthy of recognition.

[Timelord2067]

A better question is why just single me out for your gang mentality criticism? ^{(much less turning a blind eye to the negative(s) on my own trust feedback page)}

Time to lock this thread OP.

[LoyceV]

A better question is why just single me out for your gang mentality criticism?

I can answer this
You actually got it wrong: I "singled you out" because you're the only user from the list who I expect to care a bit about leaving accurate feedback. I didn't expect you to attack me over this, and considering the fact that you changed your negative feedback to neutral, you seem to agree this is the right thing to do.
The other two users (roslinpl and Excimer) are tagged in deep red already. Besides, roslinpl claims "This man is a liar", which does sound like a valid reason not to trust the user. The other one (Excimer) just left troll-feedback, which any reader will instantly dismiss.

^{(much less turning a blind eye to the negative(s) on my own trust feedback page)}

This topic isn't about you, but if you want I can share my stance in a Reputation topic.

[App_ihug]

I unbanned it.

I hope for my appeal to also get a positive respond.

[indah rezqi]

I didn't engage in a single conversation in this thread, but I know finally now the ban on naim027 has unbanned. Obviously this should be good news for naim027 after a long struggle to appeal againt his account. Congratulations naim027, your appeal was successful and now everyone wishes you not to make the same mistake again in the future.

Welcome back naim027.

[AB de Royse777]

Congratulations Naim027 for this deserved 2nd chance. I hope you are going to use it and make an example to inspire others with a great comeback by being a good asset to the community. You patience and integrity was excellent thought out the process.

I hope for my appeal to also get a positive respond.

You are not allowed to post anywhere except the appeal thread. If you think you deserve it then please stick to the thread belongs to you.

[Shamm]

I unbanned it.

Wow that's a good news, another user have given a second chance to use this forum again after a few months for being banned. And also I congratulate Naim027 you deserve a second chance as your work and contribution here in forum are clear and good you've done a lot of things also I salute you for being patients you did not give up and  now you are free once again and for sure this will be your motivation to be more successful in the near future.  Once again congrats friend.

[Dic3L0v3r]

Guys, I am locking this thread now.
In case anyone had to say anything. Consider posting it in this reputation thread.