The digital ID for Gambling

[madnessteat]

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These days, even teenagers know how to use a VPN, so the introduction of digital IDs for gambling just makes no sense. They can easily register at a gambling site that does not require these innovations and play there. So I think that a waste of budget money or this initiative has deeper motives aimed at the interests of the state and the protection of children is only a reason to push this initiative among the public.

[LodisMcguire]

The underage people is the responsibilty of the parent or the adult around them,so why we must risk our privacy for them.Maybe it's good on the surface,but if there are loses that happen because of leaked personal info,who's gonna take responsibility?

[Wexnident]

The idea honestly looks good, but I still think it wouldn't really last. It might be for the checking identities and all of that, but said measures have already been taken in the past and nothing has really changed imo.  Underaged gambling is still possible and the first and foremost goal of these kinds of policies is to pretty much ensure that they get the money (aka taxes) from gamblers.

These are taxes and control. I am against taxes (only casinos should pay them, not players) and even more so I am against control. But it is natural that the government has directly opposite interests. By the way, it will be interesting to see how quickly these digital IDs will leak and be sold on black markets 

True that. These kinds of methods not only serve to well, avoid the issue they were supposed to actually fix, they just give more control to the government and add more excuses for them to get the data of users and tax them more. Basically moving in a more centralized way. I'm not actually fully against it, it's just that the method they employ right now is only serving their pockets and not really us users. Not to mention, as you have said, their security that can barely be called one imo.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?
Reference:
https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16594/denmark-to-introduce-new-digital-id-rules-in-july

The problem is that by using digital ID there are chances of identity theft. Since the IDs will be stored online it might become vulnerable to hackers.
They must have high security on their site if not the outcomes might be disastrous.
Further more, using digital ID the government will be easily tracing the users for how much they gamble.
So that is kind of a privacy issue and the governments can very well take advantage of it.
The only useful thing that I find using digital ID is that it will restrict children under 18 from gambling.
May be if the government put a certain restriction on people from over gambling then may be that can help.

I think that governments are taking advantage of entering people's privacy using the most vulnerable possible excuses of "protection", I respect everything that has to do with security, but I know that trusting governments or banks is suicide, they they want to have total control over people, make sure that no one has their privacy, see and track all the operations that have to do with money, how many people move money and why they move those amounts, I think that will be a trap to apply all the acid in the future, of course as I said before, these are my thoughts.

The idea honestly looks good, but I still think it wouldn't really last. It might be for the checking identities and all of that, but said measures have already been taken in the past and nothing has really changed imo.  Underaged gambling is still possible and the first and foremost goal of these kinds of policies is to pretty much ensure that they get the money (aka taxes) from gamblers.

These are taxes and control. I am against taxes (only casinos should pay them, not players) and even more so I am against control. But it is natural that the government has directly opposite interests. By the way, it will be interesting to see how quickly these digital IDs will leak and be sold on black markets 

True that. These kinds of methods not only serve to well, avoid the issue they were supposed to actually fix, they just give more control to the government and add more excuses for them to get the data of users and tax them more. Basically moving in a more centralized way. I'm not actually fully against it, it's just that the method they employ right now is only serving their pockets and not really us users. Not to mention, as you have said, their security that can barely be called one imo.

In some way, the government or governments always try to establish control by looking for excuses that they cannot be opposed, in part they are very clever when using sensitive things, such as children, among others, this has always existed.

[$crypto$]

I believe by making a new rule like that to limit underage players, and maybe it will be taxed for each player. 
regardless of whether the regulations are good or bad, they will only make it more complicated for users of online gambling services.  The problem that will be very bad is when the players' personal data will be misused

Hopefully, the personal data of the players will not be misused by the regulators because they hold all the important data of the players.
Maybe the new rules need time to work properly and the restrictions on underage players depend on how parents can supervise their children who use internet access.
If gambling becomes more popular and more people are involved in gambling, there is a possibility that taxes will be applied so that it will become a new source of income for the state.
Hopefully, the regulations made by the government do not complicate online gambling users and other businesses.

Well that's what we're afraid of with the data we provide being misused that is sold on the black market even though it's impossible but at least the concern is always there.
With this process, there are still pros and cons whether many agree to this regulation or only some casinos are watching from child players, so it is important to do it, it will still be a long process, it is also necessary whether this will be efficient or just complicate it.

But we can't deny that there are still many child gamblers who do that, even though online gambling is getting easier for them to do.

[Oasisman]

The underage people is the responsibilty of the parent or the adult around them,so why we must risk our privacy for them.Maybe it's good on the surface,but if there are loses that happen because of leaked personal info,who's gonna take responsibility?

Correct!
Minors are all under the responsibility of the parents.

Now, that's actually crazy. By using your ID just to play on that specific gambling website is not only your gambling with money but you're also gambling with your identity on the line.
I guess KYC was never enough for them right? Lol

[dataispower]

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These days, even teenagers know how to use a VPN, so the introduction of digital IDs for gambling just makes no sense. They can easily register at a gambling site that does not require these innovations and play there. So I think that a waste of budget money or this initiative has deeper motives aimed at the interests of the state and the protection of children is only a reason to push this initiative among the public.

you are on point indecencies that digital gambling is not going to help for anything in gambling. Every teenager currently have is now a computerized and they know all the functions of system, so nothing we can hide from them. Using digital ID is like making gambling very easy for those we are preventing or protecting not know gambling will just know better than those who played manual or through centers. Stopping teenager not to play gamble is assignment or function of parents by giving children the disadvantages of playing gamble and the damage it will caused.information is what teenager's needs to build up with. You see that so many of them will desist from gamble and remove their intentions over there

[coolcoinz]

The underage people is the responsibilty of the parent or the adult around them,so why we must risk our privacy for them.Maybe it's good on the surface,but if there are loses that happen because of leaked personal info,who's gonna take responsibility?

Correct!
Minors are all under the responsibility of the parents.

Now, that's actually crazy. By using your ID just to play on that specific gambling website is not only your gambling with money but you're also gambling with your identity on the line.
I guess KYC was never enough for them right? Lol

I completely agree. This is another attempt by the government to control people and know their habits. They aren't doing it to protect young people or anything like that. They are doing it for the same reason why they're trying to launch CBDCs, which is to know your every move and be able to ban you from services with a click of a mouse. Once you're in their system they are going to know where you registered, where you paid, how much, at what time of the day... You're going to take a day off, call in sick at work, they are going to know if you're really sick by having access to your payments and online uses of your ID. Fueled your car and then gambled in the evening? Your employer will know you were bullshitting about being sick

[molsewid]

I completely agree. This is another attempt by the government to control people and know their habits. They aren't doing it to protect young people or anything like that. They are doing it for the same reason why they're trying to launch CBDCs, which is to know your every move and be able to ban you from services with a click of a mouse. Once you're in their system they are going to know where you registered, where you paid, how much, at what time of the day... You're going to take a day off, call in sick at work, they are going to know if you're really sick by having access to your payments and online uses of your ID. Fueled your car and then gambled in the evening? Your employer will know you were bullshitting about being sick

Yes , because there's no way we can exclude minors from gambling aside from KYC but again they are minors, there's no way we can know that they are minor without accessing mic and camera of the device they are using  but it is against the cyber security law, so therefore the only way is by their parents guidance, people nowadays know how to use internet and access different sites , a parents advice is still powerful even we have a different norms and environment.

[Vaculin]

Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?
Reference:
https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16594/denmark-to-introduce-new-digital-id-rules-in-july

Somehow it has good advantage since it would lessen the cases if not stopped on the minors that continue to gamble without their parents' consent. They can focus more on their studies than giving most of their time to gambling activities. However, the privacy of each gambler may also be at stake since its going to ask for personal details of each gambler and there is no way you can avoid paying taxes for that. Honestly, this still falls for government taking advantage on the gamblers' profits.

[GigaBit]

I like it if one concern is to prohibit kids go into the premises of these gambling places.

For those who directly legitimize gambling, this is an upgraded system where they can get more tracks or other benefits from the government of that particular country. One more thing that can be done here is to prevent underage people from running away. Only licensees can avail this facility. However, privacy issues can be a bit confusing.

[traderethereum]

I believe by making a new rule like that to limit underage players, and maybe it will be taxed for each player. 
regardless of whether the regulations are good or bad, they will only make it more complicated for users of online gambling services.  The problem that will be very bad is when the players' personal data will be misused

Hopefully, the personal data of the players will not be misused by the regulators because they hold all the important data of the players.
Maybe the new rules need time to work properly and the restrictions on underage players depend on how parents can supervise their children who use internet access.
If gambling becomes more popular and more people are involved in gambling, there is a possibility that taxes will be applied so that it will become a new source of income for the state.
Hopefully, the regulations made by the government do not complicate online gambling users and other businesses.

Well that's what we're afraid of with the data we provide being misused that is sold on the black market even though it's impossible but at least the concern is always there.
With this process, there are still pros and cons whether many agree to this regulation or only some casinos are watching from child players, so it is important to do it, it will still be a long process, it is also necessary whether this will be efficient or just complicate it.

But we can't deny that there are still many child gamblers who do that, even though online gambling is getting easier for them to do.

For this reason, we must be very careful in providing our data and always select it before giving it to third parties.
Of course, there will be pros and cons of casinos that will implement digital casino IDs and even parents whose children are involved in gambling.
But what is clear, when it comes to underage children involved in gambling, it will require the role of parents who can always supervise their children.
But at least, digital ID is expected to limit underage children's space and movement to playing gambling, although, in reality, this is not the case.

[slaman29]

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These days, even teenagers know how to use a VPN, so the introduction of digital IDs for gambling just makes no sense. They can easily register at a gambling site that does not require these innovations and play there. So I think that a waste of budget money or this initiative has deeper motives aimed at the interests of the state and the protection of children is only a reason to push this initiative among the public.

Prevention is better. For sure I knew how to use VPNs but we are talking now also about sites that aren't crypto but don't do KYC right? And if these sites try to lure kids, they still have to use their debit/credit card to deposit, and if you instal digital IDs that need verification when paying by debit card at gambling sites, the block is there.

It's not just about VPNs or access it's the requirement on cards and payments to allow these IDs first to even be able to pay.

[pawanjain]

The problem is that by using digital ID there are chances of identity theft. Since the IDs will be stored online it might become vulnerable to hackers.
They must have high security on their site if not the outcomes might be disastrous.
Further more, using digital ID the government will be easily tracing the users for how much they gamble.
So that is kind of a privacy issue and the governments can very well take advantage of it.
The only useful thing that I find using digital ID is that it will restrict children under 18 from gambling.
May be if the government put a certain restriction on people from over gambling then may be that can help.

I think that governments are taking advantage of entering people's privacy using the most vulnerable possible excuses of "protection", I respect everything that has to do with security, but I know that trusting governments or banks is suicide, they they want to have total control over people, make sure that no one has their privacy, see and track all the operations that have to do with money, how many people move money and why they move those amounts, I think that will be a trap to apply all the acid in the future, of course as I said before, these are my thoughts.

Yes ofcourse, the governments are already doing that by implementing mandatory KYC for bank accounts.
So in a way, they are already tracking us and what we do with our money.
Cryptocurrency is the only way to get out of this trap yet people are not willing to adopt cryptocurrencies.
People are getting used to the comfort of fiat currencies giving away their control over their money instead of owning their money by having an initial struggle to control it.

[Gianluca95]

Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?
Reference:
https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16594/denmark-to-introduce-new-digital-id-rules-in-july

I guess that it is absolutely a good idea, this could help to keep kids outside of this world, and also to keep away scammers and person which can't play in "normal way" like a normal player. Hope that this system will be

adopted in every country in way to let players play in the most transparent and safe way.

[Viscore]

Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?
Reference:
https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16594/denmark-to-introduce-new-digital-id-rules-in-july

Gamblers will always want to be anonymous as much as they want but i guess its not the case anymore, the government will always see to it that their identities can be traceable and so this digital ID for gambling is one way to take away their privacy as they are now obliged to pay taxes in every profit they make. However, this digital ID aims also to prevent those minors from continuous engaging in gambling as they should be in school studying instead and not utilizing most of their time in online gambling. Parents are certainly responsible for this and they should always be the one guiding their children not to be misled and end up in gambling addiction.

[blockman]

I guess that it is absolutely a good idea, this could help to keep kids outside of this world, and also to keep away scammers and person which can't play in "normal way" like a normal player. Hope that this system will be

adopted in every country in way to let players play in the most transparent and safe way.

If it's a system that works well for them, the other countries will look at it and will try to apply it as much as they can and will have the idea that it works as well as it is.
But not every country would apply this type of system because the reality is that there are some countries that have been making more money with gambling and they wouldn't restrict it to anyone.

[goldkingcoiner]

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These days, even teenagers know how to use a VPN, so the introduction of digital IDs for gambling just makes no sense. They can easily register at a gambling site that does not require these innovations and play there. So I think that a waste of budget money or this initiative has deeper motives aimed at the interests of the state and the protection of children is only a reason to push this initiative among the public.

Using a VPN on any website that demands KYC is just asking to be banned and have your funds frozen.

Although personally, I am all for greater security and anonymity, I would probably not want to risk it. No matter how sure of yourself you seem, I am certain a VPN can be sometimes detected. And while your IP is safe from prying eyes (unless you break laws), I do not think the IP of a VPN is all that unknown.

Digital ID's are completely redundant though. Except for the people who don't mind doing KYC in the first place... Honestly I would rather have a Digital ID rather than have to provide my personal documents to every single website that asks for KYC.

[madnessteat]

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If you use a free or paid VPN that offers all of its customers the same IP address, then sooner or later you will obviously fall under a ban. But if you use your own personal VPN which runs on a rented server with a static IP address, the probability of being banned is significantly reduced.

I do not deposit large sums to gambling sites so even if such a situation arises I am not very upset.

[South Park]

The underage people is the responsibilty of the parent or the adult around them,so why we must risk our privacy for them.Maybe it's good on the surface,but if there are loses that happen because of leaked personal info,who's gonna take responsibility?

Correct!
Minors are all under the responsibility of the parents.

Now, that's actually crazy. By using your ID just to play on that specific gambling website is not only your gambling with money but you're also gambling with your identity on the line.
I guess KYC was never enough for them right? Lol

The more the technology moves forward the more the present and the future resemble a dystopian novel in which there is no freedom at all, this is why bitcoin is so important as it gives us back some of that freedom that has been lost during the last decades, however governments are trying their best to stop bitcoin from achieving this with all their regulations, however as people get tired of getting tracked every single day of their lives, like it is the case with this unnecessary gambling ID, I think we are bound to see in the future more people looking to use bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to protect their privacy.