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May 31, 2022, 03:33:05 PM
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Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?
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May 31, 2022, 03:36:04 PM
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Ultimately this is just another way of the governments to make sure that they will receive the taxes that these gamblers will incur with their gambling habits. I see privacy being a concern too, especially from people who like to keep their identity secret during their time as a gambler. It is a double-edged sword, one to quell underage gambling and the other to remove the privacy that a lot of people enjoy. Idk how it would pan out, but if it works in Denmark doesn't mean that it will work in other countries, that's for certain.

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May 31, 2022, 03:54:51 PM
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I like it if one concern is to prohibit kids go into the premises of these gambling places. But there are deeper reasons why they've done this, like what dothebeats said, taxation is the most concern on this.

Countries that have been getting huge taxes on the gambling industry focuses only on this. And with this reform and program that they do, it also at least gives back to that reason of tracing those that shouldn't gamble.

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May 31, 2022, 04:11:22 PM
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Yeah, just probably implement to restrict underage to gamble. For sure it will be hard to 'fake' this documents or maybe this kids can find a loophole? We really don't know, still up to their parents though to really monitor them. As far as privacy goes, the casino's will have the responsibility to protect the data of all of their customers and I don't think there is privacy if you gamble either online or off-line. Offline casinos too require id if you wanted to avail of their cards to gain points or have perks like free hotel accommodations, food and drinks and everything that will make gamblers go back and play more.

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May 31, 2022, 04:35:06 PM
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The main concerns for me personally would be :

1. The government collecting data of the people gambling , it's very easy to see how these things are done you will see more advertising Targeted to you on your browser as well but at the end of the day we don't know how they would use it, it can be used in a bad way as well, checking and keeping a track of their habits and them getting discriminated against other lot.

2. Underage still being able to use the platform on things like tablets and phone because most of the times people would keep it on their phones and add it to make it much more quicker therefore what they would be doing to prevent that is another story.
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May 31, 2022, 04:45:09 PM
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People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?

This is interesting. Privacy is not going to be much of a concern because it is already required that during registration process the online gambler to provides extensive information including personal information. The one of the goals of the digital ID is to prove one's age and identity online and offline. At least this step would go a long way in ensuring responsible gambling.

The main concerns for me personally would be :

1. The government collecting data of the people gambling , it's very easy to see how these things are done you will see more advertising Targeted to you on your browser as well but at the end of the day we don't know how they would use it, it can be used in a bad way as well, checking and keeping a track of their habits and them getting discriminated against other lot.

@fiulpro I'm thinking that the data will be stored in the database of the online casino and online betting website and not in the government database. Is the data being submitted to the gambling website or the government?

https://iclg.com/practice-areas/gambling-laws-and-regulations/denmark

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May 31, 2022, 04:46:06 PM
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The government is claiming that the new law is to improve security requirements and technological advance the Danish gambling system. If this law is to protect the Danish gambling space from hackers and other online criminals and to restrict underage gamblers then its a good development. But the government would also want to invade the privacy of the Danish people with the aim of limiting tax invasion and also control their financial transactions. But we have to wait until gambling operators start transiting to MitID for us to ascertain its advantages and disadvantages.

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May 31, 2022, 05:20:10 PM
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Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?
Reference:
https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16594/denmark-to-introduce-new-digital-id-rules-in-july

Honestly, I believe this only comes to help.
Because currently many casinos are asking for KYC for the user and we don't even know what they do with it.

Now, if there is government support requesting and storing this information, at least we know what they are collecting this information for.

For those who aren't happy with that, there are several other sites that don't require ID verification.

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May 31, 2022, 05:38:41 PM
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I see this as a good opportunity for fighting "gambling addiction".
If an ID will be considered at risk of addiction or request to be excluded from betting... it will be easier and safe for a player.
I don't see any privacy concerns since there is already KYC and other data that could be shared by platforms

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May 31, 2022, 05:44:10 PM
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I wonder how does this work?

the casinos that are here on the forum are owned by anonymous owners and from different countries so it means that these casinos that are here on the forum and even the casinos that are not here on the forum must not allow citizens of denmark to access the casinos, because the casinos don't you have a license in denmark to be able to comply with these laws and also put the MitID into operation? I keep asking myself: why don't they also ask that alcohol companies start having a system similar to this MitID? why don't they ask companies that make chocolates to put a system like MitID? many children are obese and addicted to chocolates, but governments ignore this, governments and society are only focused on prosecuting gambling and not regulating it in a fair way that benefits casinos and gamblers

Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?
Reference:
https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16594/denmark-to-introduce-new-digital-id-rules-in-july

Honestly, I believe this only comes to help.
Because currently many casinos are asking for KYC for the user and we don't even know what they do with it.

Now, if there is government support requesting and storing this information, at least we know what they are collecting this information for.

For those who aren't happy with that, there are several other sites that don't require ID verification.

I also don't understand why anonymous sites ask people to KYC? and where do our documents go? but I also think that governments shouldn't be forcing people to KYC, they should be closely monitoring scam activities, and running awareness campaigns so people don't spend all their money on gambling

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Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?
Reference:
https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16594/denmark-to-introduce-new-digital-id-rules-in-july

Another crappy idea from officials. On the one hand, all these innovations are introduced under the pretext of good intentions, but in the end we are getting closer to a digital concentration camp. And I also wonder at whose expense online casinos should implement this identification system? If the government of each country will require "special" features for its citizens, then I can imagine what an absurdity this will turn into. I hope that in the future there will be a sufficient number of online casinos without KYC and with the ability to use cryptocurrencies. I don't want to have anything to do with officials in terms of allowing me to gamble.

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May 31, 2022, 06:25:29 PM
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Sometimes I have the perception these authorities don't have any problems in their countries to solve and their whole worries and concerns turn around gambling. Maybe they think once they strict gambling at the highest level as possible and totally prevent underage people from gambling, their countries will be perfect in every aspects, as gambling were the root of every issues they face nowadays.

I would like to see technology being spread and helping in fields where it really matters and make the difference for us in our daily lives and not to watch us and control what we are doing every seconds of the day. Governments should let people be responsible for their own acts and stop acting like a babysitter or the big brother...

This protectionist approach governments have towards their citizens is one of the main reasons why there are lots of citizens who can't take responsability for their own acts and keep blaming others for their own mistakes. Like the gambler who borrowed money from his acquainted, didn't pay, and when sued by him, claimed it was the casino's fault to keep offering free spins every time he tried to close his account.

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May 31, 2022, 06:51:02 PM
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Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?
Reference:
https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16594/denmark-to-introduce-new-digital-id-rules-in-july

We know that it could really be having two things which is into its pro's and its con's and we need to have that common sense in able to determine it out.  Cheesy
This isnt something different with KYC verification but now they are implementing on having some ID which is good for avoiding kid gamblers or those who are in below age
but of course it would really be sacrificing your identity or information which is something not that surprising but i do still appreciate the initiative.
This will really make crypto gambling to be that relevant.

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Introducing this type of ID format does heavily centralize log in authentication under the state. Centralization in security matters might be correlated with a single point of failure. As it connects multiple gambling portals under a single monolithic system. It is possible that all of those gambling sites can be compromised by simply compromising one single government site. Which could be a poor model to pursue as far as operational security goes.

In the united states they do security audits of infrastructure and different sectors of business, the state and economy. To see how prepared and well defended it is against electronic attacks and cyber intrusions. Every year the united states receives poor grades on its internet security preparedness. I can't comment on denmark's state of affairs as far as internet security goes but I hope its better than the united states.

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Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?
Reference:
https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16594/denmark-to-introduce-new-digital-id-rules-in-july

When you mean by this development, is this purely when visiting physical casinos or is this also applicable in online gambling? While I do appreciate the efforts of the government to improve their security system, this would only relatively impact only a handful of persons as this not address entirely the issue of gambling addiction.

Like what most have mentioned, the impact would only be towards proper payment of taxes and accounting as this would impose more stricter rules on the side of gambling establishments, not on the players and the impact on the society.
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Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?
Reference:
https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16594/denmark-to-introduce-new-digital-id-rules-in-july

Even if they give benefits if you agreed to submit your ID I'll not go for it, my privacy is priceless, there's no way I will just surrender if it involves gambling, they will have a peek at how much you're spending and their cut if you win a big amount, this is the first time I read about this, but if you're playing in Cryptocurrency based gambling I don't think you need this, this ID just serves the government purposes of monitoring your financial capability so they can run to you if you are delinquent or impose new taxes for you.

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.... but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID?
It's pretty cool and convenient to have an online system. The only problem is identity theft as some hackers would try to steal information from government database. A stolen identity could mean a lot of trouble.

Both gamblers and gambling operators must be aware of these already.

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.... but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?
Your identity is protected by law in Europe as far as I know so data privacy is not really a gambler's concern here. Their problem is that they are not anonymous and they cannot hide from government taxes should they win big.
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Is that really needed? People could live without it and anyone especially on crypto can gamble without any sort of identification and I believe majority didn't like to have that since its like exposing yourself on certain things which other people may not like. Maybe this is preparation for their government to impose a taxation towards this industry but lets just see further this kind of developments they made if this will create better result or not to their citizens.

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May 31, 2022, 11:27:19 PM
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Denmark may take quick steps for identity that will filter in the future about gambling. The big deal is likely to be a regulation to keep things under control with applicable Terms and Conditions.

I agree because this effort can reduce the number of underage gambling population who play behind the supervision of parents.
I think adults will be given a good platform by the Danish government.
it is also possible in that country foam gambling is included in dividends or state revenue for the state treasury.

1 month to go, my friend.
Of course there are pros and cons like friends discussed above.
but any attempt to mediate, as the Danish government has planned above, of course with a good study and arrangement of deliberation.

and this is fair enough than the residents are limited and have to hide iP to carry out these activities.

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I have looked for information about this and I see that they do not have a mandatory ID card that identifies all citizens, there is an electronic ID that is used to interact with public administrations and other tasks. In countries where there is a mandatory ID, having to provide it for almost anything, like being able to bet in a casino, is normal. Traditionally Anglo-Saxon countries (and others) have been more against them and in favor of privacy, but it seems to me that in the world in general we are moving towards more and more control of everything in all countries.

On the part of the states and with respect to gambling, it is a way to ensure that they collect the taxes they owe, as has been mentioned. Also to make sure that there are no minors.

The problem with this is that it is always sold with noble motives but ends up with a greater control of the population.

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