The digital ID for Gambling

[Distinctin]

The underage people is the responsibilty of the parent or the adult around them,so why we must risk our privacy for them.Maybe it's good on the surface,but if there are loses that happen because of leaked personal info,who's gonna take responsibility?

Correct!
Minors are all under the responsibility of the parents.

Now, that's actually crazy. By using your ID just to play on that specific gambling website is not only your gambling with money but you're also gambling with your identity on the line.
I guess KYC was never enough for them right? Lol

Maybe their protocol has changed that much and the governments are forcing them to get them identified so these sites don't have much of a choice. But I agree, that these underaged kids do still fall under their parent's responsibilities and they are liable for that. The thing is that sometimes these underaged kids are much more knowledgeable about the internet than their parents.

[Boristhecat]

The more the technology moves forward the more the present and the future resemble a dystopian novel in which there is no freedom at all, this is why bitcoin is so important as it gives us back some of that freedom that has been lost during the last decades, however governments are trying their best to stop bitcoin from achieving this with all their regulations, however as people get tired of getting tracked every single day of their lives, like it is the case with this unnecessary gambling ID, I think we are bound to see in the future more people looking to use bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to protect their privacy.

The problem is that people prefer not responsibility (bitcoin and the need to store their keys) but trust in a third party - the state (which means KYC and storage of funds and other things not with themselves but with third parties who have a license from the state). Unfortunately, the stratum of ideological people is very small and government pressure on cryptocurrencies is experiencing very little resistance.

[LUCKMCFLY]

The problem is that by using digital ID there are chances of identity theft. Since the IDs will be stored online it might become vulnerable to hackers.
They must have high security on their site if not the outcomes might be disastrous.
Further more, using digital ID the government will be easily tracing the users for how much they gamble.
So that is kind of a privacy issue and the governments can very well take advantage of it.
The only useful thing that I find using digital ID is that it will restrict children under 18 from gambling.
May be if the government put a certain restriction on people from over gambling then may be that can help.

I think that governments are taking advantage of entering people's privacy using the most vulnerable possible excuses of "protection", I respect everything that has to do with security, but I know that trusting governments or banks is suicide, they they want to have total control over people, make sure that no one has their privacy, see and track all the operations that have to do with money, how many people move money and why they move those amounts, I think that will be a trap to apply all the acid in the future, of course as I said before, these are my thoughts.

Yes ofcourse, the governments are already doing that by implementing mandatory KYC for bank accounts.
So in a way, they are already tracking us and what we do with our money.
Cryptocurrency is the only way to get out of this trap yet people are not willing to adopt cryptocurrencies.
People are getting used to the comfort of fiat currencies giving away their control over their money instead of owning their money by having an initial struggle to control it.

Yes, that's why I think that one way to escape all control is with privacy coins, I really have a very clear criteria about crypto, firstly BTC, then my taste is with ETH and Monero, this is simple, ETH it is considered the second best coin and Monero is for the privacy and anonymity it can offer.

If casinos started to offer games with this currency, allowing deposits and withdrawals through it and with records that are somewhat less rigorous in terms of KYC, I think it could become a leading platform, because for now there is a lot of talk about adoption, but when it happens, which is already a fact, the problem of being anonymous and seeking more privacy will begin.

[Distinctin]

The problem is that by using digital ID there are chances of identity theft. Since the IDs will be stored online it might become vulnerable to hackers.
They must have high security on their site if not the outcomes might be disastrous.
Further more, using digital ID the government will be easily tracing the users for how much they gamble.
So that is kind of a privacy issue and the governments can very well take advantage of it.
The only useful thing that I find using digital ID is that it will restrict children under 18 from gambling.
May be if the government put a certain restriction on people from over gambling then may be that can help.

I think that governments are taking advantage of entering people's privacy using the most vulnerable possible excuses of "protection", I respect everything that has to do with security, but I know that trusting governments or banks is suicide, they they want to have total control over people, make sure that no one has their privacy, see and track all the operations that have to do with money, how many people move money and why they move those amounts, I think that will be a trap to apply all the acid in the future, of course as I said before, these are my thoughts.

Yes ofcourse, the governments are already doing that by implementing mandatory KYC for bank accounts.
So in a way, they are already tracking us and what we do with our money.
Cryptocurrency is the only way to get out of this trap yet people are not willing to adopt cryptocurrencies.
People are getting used to the comfort of fiat currencies giving away their control over their money instead of owning their money by having an initial struggle to control it.

Yes, that's why I think that one way to escape all control is with privacy coins, I really have a very clear criteria about crypto, firstly BTC, then my taste is with ETH and Monero, this is simple, ETH it is considered the second best coin and Monero is for the privacy and anonymity it can offer.

If casinos started to offer games with this currency, allowing deposits and withdrawals through it and with records that are somewhat less rigorous in terms of KYC, I think it could become a leading platform, because for now there is a lot of talk about adoption, but when it happens, which is already a fact, the problem of being anonymous and seeking more privacy will begin.

That's why cryptocurrencies are created in the 1st place, it gives us another option than just relying upon the fiats alone that the government is controlling. The government surely doesn't want crypto even if it had many benefits and all which is already a fact because of the anonymity it could bring and they couldn't trace people in this industry that's why KYC has been present on the platforms.

[Webetcoins]

The more the technology moves forward the more the present and the future resemble a dystopian novel in which there is no freedom at all, this is why bitcoin is so important as it gives us back some of that freedom that has been lost during the last decades, however governments are trying their best to stop bitcoin from achieving this with all their regulations, however as people get tired of getting tracked every single day of their lives, like it is the case with this unnecessary gambling ID, I think we are bound to see in the future more people looking to use bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to protect their privacy.

But do you think if the technology didn't advanced this much, bitcoin will ever be created? No I don't think so and bitcoin is a decentralized coin which can give its user a freedom to transact whenever they want so we still need to be thankful that the technology revolves faster.

This also allows for more new additions in crypto like nft and metaverse however there is still one problem for us bitcoin users and that is like you said government regulations but I think some of them do also have a good intention like they only want to protect the people that use bitcoin and not to track them or try to control bitcoin. It is still optional though as there are still platforms which don't require a kyc.

[South Park]

The more the technology moves forward the more the present and the future resemble a dystopian novel in which there is no freedom at all, this is why bitcoin is so important as it gives us back some of that freedom that has been lost during the last decades, however governments are trying their best to stop bitcoin from achieving this with all their regulations, however as people get tired of getting tracked every single day of their lives, like it is the case with this unnecessary gambling ID, I think we are bound to see in the future more people looking to use bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to protect their privacy.

The problem is that people prefer not responsibility (bitcoin and the need to store their keys) but trust in a third party - the state (which means KYC and storage of funds and other things not with themselves but with third parties who have a license from the state). Unfortunately, the stratum of ideological people is very small and government pressure on cryptocurrencies is experiencing very little resistance.

Without a doubt this is a big problem and I would say it is the main obstacle against massive adoption as people think it is easier to give their freedoms away to a third party, however the good news is that slowly but surely we are reaching the limits of the current economic system and once it collapses, even if it takes a few decades for this to happen, people will see the horrible consequences of giving their freedoms and power away to the governments, that is when I expect a big backlash to happen, at that point people will not really adopt bitcoin out of some ideological change of heart but out of pure opportunism and self-interest, which is a language every single human being understands way better than any ideology.

[LUCKMCFLY]

The problem is that by using digital ID there are chances of identity theft. Since the IDs will be stored online it might become vulnerable to hackers.
They must have high security on their site if not the outcomes might be disastrous.
Further more, using digital ID the government will be easily tracing the users for how much they gamble.
So that is kind of a privacy issue and the governments can very well take advantage of it.
The only useful thing that I find using digital ID is that it will restrict children under 18 from gambling.
May be if the government put a certain restriction on people from over gambling then may be that can help.

I think that governments are taking advantage of entering people's privacy using the most vulnerable possible excuses of "protection", I respect everything that has to do with security, but I know that trusting governments or banks is suicide, they they want to have total control over people, make sure that no one has their privacy, see and track all the operations that have to do with money, how many people move money and why they move those amounts, I think that will be a trap to apply all the acid in the future, of course as I said before, these are my thoughts.

Yes ofcourse, the governments are already doing that by implementing mandatory KYC for bank accounts.
So in a way, they are already tracking us and what we do with our money.
Cryptocurrency is the only way to get out of this trap yet people are not willing to adopt cryptocurrencies.
People are getting used to the comfort of fiat currencies giving away their control over their money instead of owning their money by having an initial struggle to control it.

Yes, that's why I think that one way to escape all control is with privacy coins, I really have a very clear criteria about crypto, firstly BTC, then my taste is with ETH and Monero, this is simple, ETH it is considered the second best coin and Monero is for the privacy and anonymity it can offer.

If casinos started to offer games with this currency, allowing deposits and withdrawals through it and with records that are somewhat less rigorous in terms of KYC, I think it could become a leading platform, because for now there is a lot of talk about adoption, but when it happens, which is already a fact, the problem of being anonymous and seeking more privacy will begin.

That's why cryptocurrencies are created in the 1st place, it gives us another option than just relying upon the fiats alone that the government is controlling. The government surely doesn't want crypto even if it had many benefits and all which is already a fact because of the anonymity it could bring and they couldn't trace people in this industry that's why KYC has been present on the platforms.

In some way, governments want to take over a part of gambling, bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, they do not want to lose control, in order not to lose it, they have certain licenses in their possession, certain treaties that make KYC exist, of course in an intelligent way They get in saying that for the protection of the player and so that they are not scammed, but we all know that the true intention is to know which people handle crypto and how much, if KYC did not exist, it would be more difficult for them, it is because of them that even if casinos implemented Monero transactions it would be a bit more tedious for governments to find out.

[michellee]

The more the technology moves forward the more the present and the future resemble a dystopian novel in which there is no freedom at all, this is why bitcoin is so important as it gives us back some of that freedom that has been lost during the last decades, however governments are trying their best to stop bitcoin from achieving this with all their regulations, however as people get tired of getting tracked every single day of their lives, like it is the case with this unnecessary gambling ID, I think we are bound to see in the future more people looking to use bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to protect their privacy.

But do you think if the technology didn't advanced this much, bitcoin will ever be created? No I don't think so and bitcoin is a decentralized coin which can give its user a freedom to transact whenever they want so we still need to be thankful that the technology revolves faster.

This also allows for more new additions in crypto like nft and metaverse however there is still one problem for us bitcoin users and that is like you said government regulations but I think some of them do also have a good intention like they only want to protect the people that use bitcoin and not to track them or try to control bitcoin. It is still optional though as there are still platforms which don't require a kyc.

Technology itself is constantly evolving and will help us in our daily life. And related to bitcoin, it helps us to be able to transact without third parties but it also depends on how bitcoin is accepted in our place.

But for the gambling business, the government wants to know the identity of people who often play gambling by asking for their identity from the casino. This is not fun for crypto casino gamblers as many don't want to do KYC.

[madnessteat]

The more the technology moves forward the more the present and the future resemble a dystopian novel in which there is no freedom at all, this is why bitcoin is so important as it gives us back some of that freedom that has been lost during the last decades, however governments are trying their best to stop bitcoin from achieving this with all their regulations, however as people get tired of getting tracked every single day of their lives, like it is the case with this unnecessary gambling ID, I think we are bound to see in the future more people looking to use bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to protect their privacy.

But do you think if the technology didn't advanced this much, bitcoin will ever be created? No I don't think so and bitcoin is a decentralized coin which can give its user a freedom to transact whenever they want so we still need to be thankful that the technology revolves faster.

This also allows for more new additions in crypto like nft and metaverse however there is still one problem for us bitcoin users and that is like you said government regulations but I think some of them do also have a good intention like they only want to protect the people that use bitcoin and not to track them or try to control bitcoin. It is still optional though as there are still platforms which don't require a kyc.

In my opinion, the regulation of the cryptocurrency market will not lead to anything good. All these regulators are not able to protect people in the usual financial market, and you want them to protect us in the world of cryptocurrencies. In my opinion, regulation is an attempt to tweak cryptocurrencies to fit the financial system and that's what Satoshi didn't want. As long as your private keys are in your possession you can do without any regulators.

[Mauser]

Using a VPN on any website that demands KYC is just asking to be banned and have your funds frozen.

Although personally, I am all for greater security and anonymity, I would probably not want to risk it. No matter how sure of yourself you seem, I am certain a VPN can be sometimes detected. And while your IP is safe from prying eyes (unless you break laws), I do not think the IP of a VPN is all that unknown.

Digital ID's are completely redundant though. Except for the people who don't mind doing KYC in the first place... Honestly I would rather have a Digital ID rather than have to provide my personal documents to every single website that asks for KYC.

I agree that using VPNs for large sums of money when gambling is very risky. If the casinos find it out (what they mostly likely will if you gamble there long enough) then all your money and winnings are lost. For me the risk is too high and I would rather use a casino that is allowed in my country than a VPN. The digital ID could be a way to get rid of the KYC processes many casinos require us to do and standardize the registration at casinos. When it comes to showing a digital ID to a casino to verify yourself it sounds like a good idea that can prevent misuse in the future. This would also take some of the negative press out of gambling that it is being used to launder money by some criminals. The big problem with digital IDs is how the data is being stored and who can access it. I think that most gamblers are affraid of identify theft when it comes to sharing all the personal information online.

[ethereumhunter]

In my opinion, the regulation of the cryptocurrency market will not lead to anything good. All these regulators are not able to protect people in the usual financial market, and you want them to protect us in the world of cryptocurrencies. In my opinion, regulation is an attempt to tweak cryptocurrencies to fit the financial system and that's what Satoshi didn't want. As long as your private keys are in your possession you can do without any regulators.

Their goal for regulating crypto is to find out the people behind crypto so they can control it and suppress it if they cross the restrictions set by the government. Maybe the government needs to give freedom to its citizens to remain in privacy so that citizens can see that the government cares about their privacy. In this way, citizens can begin to believe that the government's goal is to know which citizens are using cryptocurrencies and give citizens the freedom to maintain their privacy.

[3meek]

It seems to me that there is a more global problem here than a loss of privacy... Many people just don't care if they leave their identity anywhere, whether it's in an online casino or just a survey on the street... Most people have no problem showing their IDs online... The problem is that governments want to know everything there is to know about us, they want to track all our steps and actions... In all cities, there are video cameras every 10 meters... In the underground, in the shops... Soon the fantasy stories of the last century will become reality, and that's going to be a really huge problem...

[Boristhecat]

I agree that using VPNs for large sums of money when gambling is very risky. If the casinos find it out (what they mostly likely will if you gamble there long enough) then all your money and winnings are lost. For me the risk is too high and I would rather use a casino that is allowed in my country than a VPN. The digital ID could be a way to get rid of the KYC processes many casinos require us to do and standardize the registration at casinos. When it comes to showing a digital ID to a casino to verify yourself it sounds like a good idea that can prevent misuse in the future. This would also take some of the negative press out of gambling that it is being used to launder money by some criminals. The big problem with digital IDs is how the data is being stored and who can access it. I think that most gamblers are affraid of identify theft when it comes to sharing all the personal information online.

I wonder how you can use a casino without KYC for money laundering? The criminal cannot say to the tax office "I won this money at the casino" because he will not have evidence (there is no KYC). But on the other hand, he can easily launder money in a casino with KYC - in one casino he bets on one tennis player, in another on his opponent, and in the end he gets clean money. It turns out that just those casinos that require KYC help in money laundering.

[Fortify]

Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?  

Considering how so much of the world is now performing all sorts of important and sensitive activities online, it seems almost inevitable that each country will roll out a form of digital identity document eventually. Maybe even some version of a passport, based on a blockchain like technology that would be infallible to forgery. It depends on your view of privacy and many people/governments might not like having a transparent online equivalent service, but it'd be nice if it was equalized across all countries. Many people have actually pushed back against such individual identity documents, which doesn't make that much sense when you consider there are databases of drivers licenses and passport offices already out there.

[bittraffic]

Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?  

Considering how so much of the world is now performing all sorts of important and sensitive activities online, it seems almost inevitable that each country will roll out a form of digital identity document eventually. Maybe even some version of a passport, based on a blockchain like technology that would be infallible to forgery. It depends on your view of privacy and many people/governments might not like having a transparent online equivalent service, but it'd be nice if it was equalized across all countries. Many people have actually pushed back against such individual identity documents, which doesn't make that much sense when you consider there are databases of drivers licenses and passport offices already out there.

The database of drivers license and passports are just identity, what governments need now is to get as much money as posible Your properties and bank balances is what they wanted to know and so are the cryptocurrencies you hide.

They wanna know what you have. The farmers in Denmark has issues about this already which they did protest just days ago.
What the WEF meeting is coming true that we the people will soon own nothing and be happy with it.

[madnessteat]

In my opinion, the regulation of the cryptocurrency market will not lead to anything good. All these regulators are not able to protect people in the usual financial market, and you want them to protect us in the world of cryptocurrencies. In my opinion, regulation is an attempt to tweak cryptocurrencies to fit the financial system and that's what Satoshi didn't want. As long as your private keys are in your possession you can do without any regulators.

Their goal for regulating crypto is to find out the people behind crypto so they can control it and suppress it if they cross the restrictions set by the government. Maybe the government needs to give freedom to its citizens to remain in privacy so that citizens can see that the government cares about their privacy. In this way, citizens can begin to believe that the government's goal is to know which citizens are using cryptocurrencies and give citizens the freedom to maintain their privacy.

No state can ensure the financial freedom of its citizens because it contradicts the goals of ensuring the security and value of the state currency. Nowadays, the SEC has very powerful levers to fight against crypto projects they do not like. To understand this, one can look at private cryptocurrencies, which many exchanges exclude from available for trading assets.

[LUCKMCFLY]

The problem is that by using digital ID there are chances of identity theft. Since the IDs will be stored online it might become vulnerable to hackers.
They must have high security on their site if not the outcomes might be disastrous.
Further more, using digital ID the government will be easily tracing the users for how much they gamble.
So that is kind of a privacy issue and the governments can very well take advantage of it.
The only useful thing that I find using digital ID is that it will restrict children under 18 from gambling.
May be if the government put a certain restriction on people from over gambling then may be that can help.

I think that governments are taking advantage of entering people's privacy using the most vulnerable possible excuses of "protection", I respect everything that has to do with security, but I know that trusting governments or banks is suicide, they they want to have total control over people, make sure that no one has their privacy, see and track all the operations that have to do with money, how many people move money and why they move those amounts, I think that will be a trap to apply all the acid in the future, of course as I said before, these are my thoughts.

Yes ofcourse, the governments are already doing that by implementing mandatory KYC for bank accounts.
So in a way, they are already tracking us and what we do with our money.
Cryptocurrency is the only way to get out of this trap yet people are not willing to adopt cryptocurrencies.
People are getting used to the comfort of fiat currencies giving away their control over their money instead of owning their money by having an initial struggle to control it.

Yes, that's why I think that one way to escape all control is with privacy coins, I really have a very clear criteria about crypto, firstly BTC, then my taste is with ETH and Monero, this is simple, ETH it is considered the second best coin and Monero is for the privacy and anonymity it can offer.

If casinos started to offer games with this currency, allowing deposits and withdrawals through it and with records that are somewhat less rigorous in terms of KYC, I think it could become a leading platform, because for now there is a lot of talk about adoption, but when it happens, which is already a fact, the problem of being anonymous and seeking more privacy will begin.

That's why cryptocurrencies are created in the 1st place, it gives us another option than just relying upon the fiats alone that the government is controlling. The government surely doesn't want crypto even if it had many benefits and all which is already a fact because of the anonymity it could bring and they couldn't trace people in this industry that's why KYC has been present on the platforms.

In some way, governments want to take over a part of gambling, bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, they do not want to lose control, in order not to lose it, they have certain licenses in their possession, certain treaties that make KYC exist, of course in an intelligent way They get in saying that for the protection of the player and so that they are not scammed, but we all know that the true intention is to know which people handle crypto and how much, if KYC did not exist, it would be more difficult for them, it is because of them that even if casinos implemented Monero transactions it would be a bit more tedious for governments to find out.

[Boristhecat]

The database of drivers license and passports are just identity, what governments need now is to get as much money as posible Your properties and bank balances is what they wanted to know and so are the cryptocurrencies you hide.

They wanna know what you have. The farmers in Denmark has issues about this already which they did protest just days ago.
What the WEF meeting is coming true that we the people will soon own nothing and be happy with it.

The story with farmers is 100% the same as the story with nuclear power plants in Germany - they closed them and now in Germany the price of electricity has risen to record levels (it seems ten times in a year). If farmers fail to defend their rights, then after the destruction of the "extra" cows, we will face a similar increase in prices for milk and meat. This is very similar to the plan that the WEF has been trying to implement for a long time - for people to eat artificial meat and bugs.

[madnessteat]

^

I hadn't heard the story about the farmers, I need to read about it.

In my opinion all this digital ID is a kind of introduction of new measures that are designed to bring total control of humanity into our world. Naturally it is all done under the guise of improvements to make our lives safer, but in fact governments and corporations are collecting more and more of our personal data. I am well aware that in the long run this cannot be avoided, but I am frightened by the constant database leaks that are occurring more and more often.

[pawanjain]

In some way, governments want to take over a part of gambling, bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, they do not want to lose control, in order not to lose it, they have certain licenses in their possession, certain treaties that make KYC exist, of course in an intelligent way They get in saying that for the protection of the player and so that they are not scammed, but we all know that the true intention is to know which people handle crypto and how much, if KYC did not exist, it would be more difficult for them, it is because of them that even if casinos implemented Monero transactions it would be a bit more tedious for governments to find out.

It's more like they are getting 2 benefits at the same time by implementing KYC details.
They can track their customers holdings as well as restrict people from entering into certain crypto platforms.
No doubt they hate monero since it disrupts all their plans.