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June 14, 2022, 09:57:45 PM
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I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.
A legitimate accusation against any service will always have an effect, as an example sometimes I buy stuff from amazon and while it is impossible to find a product with only positive reviews, if one of the reviews which is negative has some solid ground then I will think twice before buying the product, and most likely something similar will happen to a casino, after all if you can find a casino that is clean from such legitimate accusations and you compare it to a casino with a few small but legitimate accusations, then it would not be rare at all for people to prefer the former rather than the latter.
Im really getting on this one or related into my actions too in speaking with online shopping.Even with having lots of positive feedbacks and on the time you do read up
several negative ones then you would really be having that impression that it might not really that good or something that would be putting you in doubt which is something
a very common behavior or mindset for some people on which it would be in result on hesitating on doing further action.Its true that any negative specially if its
proven or does have solid evidence could really put up a reputable casino into some bad state.

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June 14, 2022, 10:31:09 PM
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I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

I need to know first how "legit" are the evidence you are referring to. Reputation is hard to gain that's why I don't see why gambling sites with already a good reputation will consider doing some shitty things to a single user but that case doesn't happen to the majority.

There might be some issues before that this site properly handled and that shows how good they are in handling problems from their users.

Since answering a scam issue here almost looks like a public trial and everyone can witness it, we will surely see how the site will respond to the issue. Their way of doing responses will determine if they are professional in handling the case and always giving an up-to-date update on the progress.
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June 14, 2022, 11:41:14 PM
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Every bad accusation will always give influence to certain platform, but how the accusation will be ongoing will depend on the platform itself in solving the problem. Even a big casino or platform or companies in the real life will also have bad accusation, bad problem, but once they can overcome the problem, they will gain trust again.
So, this may be normal and many casinos may also face this problem, because nothing is perfect. However, we can see how professional are they from how they hold and solve the problems wisely

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June 14, 2022, 11:54:08 PM
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I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.


This depends upon the substantiated proof by the complainant in this scenario.

Remember that gambling casinos can withheld any funds or withdraws if they see that you violated their TOS agreement or any of their stipulated rules. But if a reputable gambling website has been acknowledged that they indeed withheld funds without any reason, then it really takes only one negative and genuine feedback to lose their years of reputation building in the process.

Again, gambling websites should maintain their reputation and address all the concerns in order to prevent losing their customers. Their feedback from their customers is basically their life.
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June 15, 2022, 12:35:19 AM
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I thought you were talking about 1xBit at fists, and I was about to say they certainly have more than just one open scam accusations.  However in regards to your question, I would be very hesitant to ever use that casino and likely never would. If you know for certain they are ignoring that client, that’s beyond fucked up and should be addressed to give everyone confidence in using them.

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June 15, 2022, 01:17:09 AM
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I thought you were talking about 1xBit at fists, and I was about to say they certainly have more than just one open scam accusations.  However in regards to your question, I would be very hesitant to ever use that casino and likely never would. If you know for certain they are ignoring that client, that’s beyond fucked up and should be addressed to give everyone confidence in using them.
Unfortunately they are still active and holding campaigns in this forum so I think we as gamblers should be smart to choose a safe gambling place and can provide a lot of profit, While I also prefer to use Stake or Primedice gambling places which in my opinion have games that are very complete, casino gambling and sports gambling are all there depending on which one you want.

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June 17, 2022, 10:21:56 PM
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A legitimate accusation against any service will always have an effect, as an example sometimes I buy stuff from amazon and while it is impossible to find a product with only positive reviews, if one of the reviews which is negative has some solid ground then I will think twice before buying the product, and most likely something similar will happen to a casino, after all if you can find a casino that is clean from such legitimate accusations and you compare it to a casino with a few small but legitimate accusations, then it would not be rare at all for people to prefer the former rather than the latter.
Im really getting on this one or related into my actions too in speaking with online shopping.Even with having lots of positive feedbacks and on the time you do read up
several negative ones then you would really be having that impression that it might not really that good or something that would be putting you in doubt which is something
a very common behavior or mindset for some people on which it would be in result on hesitating on doing further action.Its true that any negative specially if its
proven or does have solid evidence could really put up a reputable casino into some bad state.
And that is the thing, a good review also has some weight but compared to a bad review which has evidence behind it several good reviews are not good enough to overcome the damage that a well structured negative review can generate, it is because of this that casinos in the forum do everything in their power to provide the best customer support they can, in order to avoid the negative influence those reviews can have in their business.
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June 17, 2022, 10:54:48 PM
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I thought you were talking about 1xBit at fists, and I was about to say they certainly have more than just one open scam accusations.  However in regards to your question, I would be very hesitant to ever use that casino and likely never would. If you know for certain they are ignoring that client, that’s beyond fucked up and should be addressed to give everyone confidence in using them.

I also thought that 1xbit is already very notorious for scamming gamblers, he did not mention any casinos but OP mentioned with good feedback could be the top casinos, I also don't want to mention, that it could just be a scenario or could happen in the future like an X casino with thousand good feedbacks but having one unresolved issue with concrete evidence, but it would be very questionable why would they not resolve the issue, it could be the amount is just too huge that they will have a hard for them to cash out so they opted to have one thinking that their good feedbacks can counter this issue.
But like all the other opinions here I will have second thoughts about playing here, it's still good to play in a casino where you know that if you encounter an issue they will resolve it.
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June 19, 2022, 06:52:14 PM
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I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.


I don't think it will degrade its reputation and if the casino has good feedback it will not commit fraud which will harm its reputation.  This case must be seen from two sides, the question is why a player can't withdraw his money?  what is the problem?  And why doesn't the casino allow such withdrawals?  Did the player break the rules?  cases like this that usually happen to every player

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June 23, 2022, 05:02:01 AM
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I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

Two things are very important here, firstly, when a casino is accused of fraud here in the forum by important members like DT, for me it is synonymous with respecting them and staying well away, for various reasons, there are people here who are dedicated to searching and hunt scammers, I don't know how in the world they still want to make money by harming others, but such a thing still exists and I think that's one of the reasons why humanity doesn't advance, and the other reason is that anyone has the freedom to put money wherever you want, if there is a reputation that speaks badly about any casino, you have to pay attention to what they say, it is not bad, it is for protection, especially for novices and those investors who do not know much about gambling and are entering.

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June 23, 2022, 11:09:36 AM
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I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.

That is enough to ruin the reputation of the casino because people will see it as a scam attempt by the gambling site. However, in the end, it still depends on the gamblers if they will still play despite the reputation of the gambling site, and I think there's no gambling site that has no negative feedback, there are gamblers that are not happy with the service and they will post a scam accusation.

As a gambler, we should weigh things, we should not make a conclusion right away because if they are regulated, of course regalators will take care of the complaints.
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I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.
That's the funny idea about life and reputations. One wrong move is all it takes to ruin all you've worked for and maintained upto that moment. Personally, I feel it all depends on the legitimacy to the failed or denied request. Haven't been up to date with evey other request and every other person, the validity to proves provided is questionable given the fact that, for a withdrawal to be denied a user, there must or should be a reason to do so. A reason for which a legitimate casino in the eyes of everyone would go about risking therr reputation. Be it as it may, its a red flag and calls for users to exercise caution.

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June 23, 2022, 12:15:50 PM
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I will not mention any particular gambling casinos, but what are your thought if the casino or casinos with good feedback from the community, but with one unresolved scam accusation but from all angles, the accusation is legit with all the screenshots, transaction hash email conversation are provided by the complainant lets say he is not allowed to withdraw his earnings amounting to $100k but from all angles the accusation is valid, don't you think with thousand good feedback, its enough for the casino to lose his reputation with one legit accusation.


I don't think it will degrade its reputation and if the casino has good feedback it will not commit fraud which will harm its reputation.  This case must be seen from two sides, the question is why a player can't withdraw his money?  what is the problem?  And why doesn't the casino allow such withdrawals?  Did the player break the rules?  cases like this that usually happen to every player

Make sense. We all know the example from the OP seems contradicting, just like how you explained that there must be something that user have done for not being able to withdraw his funds, plus the casino is reputable enough to make such actions.
However, I believe the real question is, does a reputable or trusted casino that commits one legit scam incident lose their reputation instantly or eventually. 

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June 23, 2022, 12:17:11 PM
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I think that if a casino has a lot of visitors who remain satisfied with the casino, the reputation of the casino will not suffer because of the negative reviews. Even if those reviews have solid evidence. To affect the reputation you need to launch a full-fledged campaign against that casino. Otherwise, it will be all for naught. A good example is the Binance exchange, although it is not a casino, but the negative experiences of some users had no effect on the reputation.
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June 23, 2022, 12:35:49 PM
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I believe the real question is, does a reputable or trusted casino that commits one legit scam incident lose their reputation instantly or eventually. 

I believe they will the community will always point out their flaws and the complaint because the complaint is legit and the community will not just let it pass, because that could lead them to scam another of their players, a reputable casino should have zero legit complaints, they may have a thread or discussion in the scam section, but they can properly defend it, and the complainant cannot sustain it. 

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Reputation issues are extremely complex and each separate case must be considered individually. In my opinion, most users, if they see a lot of positive reviews and one negative one, will "try on" a negative review for themselves - if the circumstances described there concern them, they will perceive it as a serious warning, if not, then no.
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I think most people only start to take notice, when they "Google" a casino and scam accusations popup everywhere. The people already registered with the casino will probably not "Google" it, so they might never find out about it.

I think there are a general perception from most people that the complainants are "butthurt" gamblers that wants to find a way to lash out against the casinos, so they do not even bother reading the details.  Roll Eyes

I will read the detail, when I see a lot of evidence posted in the scam accusation section or a post on another platform.  Wink

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Yes, the casino reputation will ruined since the sign of they can't resolved a one case will make other gamblers feel worried if they might become the next victim. Obviously the account will get red tag and flag, so many people will look and say it's scam.

 
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Reputation issues are extremely complex and each separate case must be considered individually. In my opinion, most users, if they see a lot of positive reviews and one negative one, will "try on" a negative review for themselves - if the circumstances described there concern them, they will perceive it as a serious warning, if not, then no.

it is always necessary to evaluate case by case.
from my personal experience I can guarantee that it is difficult to find a casino that does not have at least one "credible" negative reference!
But we must always try to understand what really happened and what is behind it. No reputable casino tends to violate the law or disregard the terms of an agreement ....

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Yes, the casino reputation will ruined since the sign of they can't resolved a one case will make other gamblers feel worried if they might become the next victim. Obviously the account will get red tag and flag, so many people will look and say it's scam.
I think it depends on how long they've been here, because I'm sure once they've been here for a long time with good feedback and reputation they'll be able to sort things out like that. Because there will always be answers to existing problems, because we will not know the answers and problems after the problem is answered and confirmed. Because it could be the user himself who made a mistake so that the casino could not solve it and if that was a problem then the casino will remain safe because the point of fault lies with the users themselves. But indeed, issues like this are multifaceted and there are many factors to degrade reputation and negative feedback and all issues need to be clarified first for finally a fair decision to be made.

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