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June 15, 2022, 09:42:34 AM
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Losses can make a gambler depressed. But it seems this loss only helps to fuel his desire to stake a higher amount, believing it will click. Some calculate the chance of winning a bet by the odds placed or by the teams, while some bet on the higher odd, having a feeling it will work. But to ask why it's so hard to win? I can't figure it out myself. Will it be based on luck? Or should we place it on the chi of the person?

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June 15, 2022, 05:17:23 PM
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I absolutely agree with your statement. My experience allows me to understand that none of my strategies has been more profitable than others and everything depends only on luck.

The only strategy that increased my chances of winning is when my friends and I followed the slot machines in the casino and played those for a long time did not give the winnings. Although it may also be a misconception and luck was just on our side at that moment.
In my country, slots games (not gambling), are becoming popular. People play it and buy in game items to win and resell it. Unlike the gambling we do, this is a game that is legal to use. However, from this game, I found many people who are trying to find a way to always win. In fact, many also offer services to use a software for newbit who want to get a win. For them, this software is programmed to help them, even though, the software can actually threaten their privacy.

This means, any kind of strategy cannot be applied to slots, except money management, choosing the time to play. No more. Because slots don't require skill, it's different if we play poker, we still need to use a strategy.

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June 15, 2022, 05:20:50 PM
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A lot of people take a scientific approach to gambling - the best strategy is to avoid it  Grin All the rest who invent "systems", "strategies" and so on are only engaged in self-deception and in fact they are ordinary gamblers. The only exception category is bettors, but there are very few professionals among them also.
That's right, because this kind of thing has no strategy, tactics or anything related to science because we already know that gambling is luck in the end.
Regardless of what you will get from the approach taken, it is not a strategy but only based on stimulus or suggestions to yourself in order to gain confidence there, after that it's not there anymore Cheesy

Yes, it all depends on the math. If the mathematics of the game is correct (and it is almost always correct), then the casino has an advantage and it inevitably manifests itself at a distance. In rare cases, players find a bug in the mechanics (or software) of the game and can win until the bug is found and removed.

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June 15, 2022, 06:00:38 PM
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Losses can make a gambler depressed. But it seems this loss only helps to fuel his desire to stake a higher amount, believing it will click. Some calculate the chance of winning a bet by the odds placed or by the teams, while some bet on the higher odd, having a feeling it will work. But to ask why it's so hard to win? I can't figure it out myself. Will it be based on luck? Or should we place it on the chi of the person?
Gambling should never be seen as a source of revenue. Seeing gambling as a source of income can increase the risk of becoming addicted to it. It could also lead to taking loans to gamble which can be highly counterproductive. I think gambling should be seen as a source of entertainment this would help reduce the negative reactions after loss. Although skills or experience could play a vital role but basically I feel gambling is mostly a game of luck. hence, gambling more than one can bear when loss occurs is the highway to depression and other health issues.   

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June 15, 2022, 06:13:40 PM
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A lot of people take a scientific approach to gambling - the best strategy is to avoid it  Grin All the rest who invent "systems", "strategies" and so on are only engaged in self-deception and in fact they are ordinary gamblers. The only exception category is bettors, but there are very few professionals among them also.
That's right, because this kind of thing has no strategy, tactics or anything related to science because we already know that gambling is luck in the end.
Regardless of what you will get from the approach taken, it is not a strategy but only based on stimulus or suggestions to yourself in order to gain confidence there, after that it's not there anymore Cheesy

Yes, it all depends on the math. If the mathematics of the game is correct (and it is almost always correct), then the casino has an advantage and it inevitably manifests itself at a distance. In rare cases, players find a bug in the mechanics (or software) of the game and can win until the bug is found and removed.

I think the likelihood of finding such bugs are minimal, so count on it does not make sense. Well, if someone manages to find a bug and beat the casino because of this, he obviously should withdraw funds more often as it is likely to displease the owner of the gaming platform, and most likely this player will quickly banned. 

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June 15, 2022, 07:30:09 PM
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Gambling is often hard to win because of the arrangement of the games, odd by the gambling site. They often arrange it in a way it would look confusing to even choose. Even when it comes to your own favourite team. Most people find it difficult to win because they  go for teams with high odd not minding if they would loose, once they see the amount involved they get carried away and decide to take the risk but it is not advisable that way.
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June 15, 2022, 10:25:42 PM
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Gambling is often hard to win because of the arrangement of the games, odd by the gambling site. They often arrange it in a way it would look confusing to even choose. Even when it comes to your own favourite team. Most people find it difficult to win because they  go for teams with high odd not minding if they would loose, once they see the amount involved they get carried away and decide to take the risk but it is not advisable that way.

House Edge, RTP etc. or any related to this would be always the house will really be having the edge and the players are the ones who had been milked on.Not totally something new
thats why players are always on that side where we at disadvantage thats why making yourself push through on winning the game is something not that really suggested.
Winning on gambling is a bonus out of the leisure that you had gained but in overall it is really just for entertainment and not for money making.
Just imagine on paying  something for the enjoyment that you are getting.

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June 15, 2022, 10:45:02 PM
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A lot of people take a scientific approach to gambling - the best strategy is to avoid it  Grin All the rest who invent "systems", "strategies" and so on are only engaged in self-deception and in fact they are ordinary gamblers. The only exception category is bettors, but there are very few professionals among them also.
That's right, because this kind of thing has no strategy, tactics or anything related to science because we already know that gambling is luck in the end.
Regardless of what you will get from the approach taken, it is not a strategy but only based on stimulus or suggestions to yourself in order to gain confidence there, after that it's not there anymore Cheesy

Yes, it all depends on the math. If the mathematics of the game is correct (and it is almost always correct), then the casino has an advantage and it inevitably manifests itself at a distance. In rare cases, players find a bug in the mechanics (or software) of the game and can win until the bug is found and removed.

I think the likelihood of finding such bugs are minimal, so count on it does not make sense. Well, if someone manages to find a bug and beat the casino because of this, he obviously should withdraw funds more often as it is likely to displease the owner of the gaming platform, and most likely this player will quickly banned. 

Many gamblers have tried to beat the casino by finding bugs, and it can be said that some people end up badly if they win by knowing the bugs
from the casino. Because after all, casino owners always tighten the security they have, so that their system is not easily cheated by gamblers.
Most people who find bugs don't stop doing it immediately after they get a win, because greed has taken over them. So most casinos immediately
find out who won by finding bugs, after all, all casinos will definitely keep an eye on every gambler who wins big, so if someone wins by finding a bug
it usually gets them banned from gambling at the casino.

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June 15, 2022, 10:52:03 PM
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If a gambling place makes it easy for users to win, it will make the gambling place lose money because by making it difficult for users to lose at a gambling place, the gambling place bookie can get a lot of profit, so as a user you must be careful and as much as possible to keep looking for loopholes to be able to get a win from a gambling place.

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June 15, 2022, 11:04:46 PM
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I remember, I extensively discussed about the topic on winning in gambling. Like the one you just mentioned OP, even if you win in gambling, you lose in different factors which is outside profit. For example, a person who wins in a gambling spree is most likely just balanced his winnings and losings in the process.

What gamblers feel is the excitement towards winning, disregarding their total winnings + losings in the balance sheet which highly suggest that they are still losing money on the process or just entirely recovered their losses.

Not to mention, gamblers have only two (2) options when they win, either: they continue; or they stop. But I do think that when a person wins in a gambling spree, the more likely scenario is that they will gamble again to feel that adrenaline and excitement, thus contributing to the loss fund they just started recovering.
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June 15, 2022, 11:13:53 PM
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Hello good day to all the members in this forum, Did you know that even if you win at gambling, you lose as well?
This seems like a basic thing in gambling. We are actually losing much more than winning, but once we are winning, we will be very happy.  Grin Grin
Moreover, if the one who is addicted to gambling they may lose 100x and only win 1x, but they consider playing gambling again and again because they believe they will win someday even having lost much, very much.
Is this related to the psychology area? of course yes.

And about the other relation is how we are managing our money when gambling. Sometimes, gambling will make us forget about how much money we have spent. But if we have good money management, we will know when to start and when to stop it. That is why we must be able to control ourselves in gambling.
Not everyone will always lose much and fewer profits. Many also can win more than losing. But this will depend on how able you are in gambling, managing the risk, playing, and also managing the emotion.

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June 15, 2022, 11:42:28 PM
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Never ever blame yourself for their Addiction
Of course, I'll never blame myself if other people becomes addicted. I may be the one that introduced it to them but I don't hold and control their minds and pockets.

The freedom is within their hands and everything they do have an equal reaction. So if they don't gamble moderately and they become an active gambler that affects their living and family due to the addiction.

It is them that have to recognize themselves at fault.

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June 15, 2022, 11:50:21 PM
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If a gambling place makes it easy for users to win, it will make the gambling place lose money because by making it difficult for users to lose at a gambling place, the gambling place bookie can get a lot of profit, so as a user you must be careful and as much as possible to keep looking for loopholes to be able to get a win from a gambling place.
^ Just think about it there are too many gambling platforms that has been arises, it seems like mushrooms that every day there is a gambling casino that comes up. Why? Because gambling is profitable for them, they know that in the long term they can create profit through the players while gamblers hope to hit any jackpot or big prizes in the gambling casino. So don't blame gambling casinos if lose too much because it depends on us on how to control our urge in gambling and avoid addiction because of chasing money which is not good.
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June 15, 2022, 11:55:41 PM
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Hello good day to all the members in this forum, Did you know that even if you win at gambling, you lose as well? Don't you think that's how it happened? and that’s the thing that I'd like to tackle about this topic, Because it’s hard to win at gambling, now if you want to know why? Join the conversation here.

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I totally agree with you, and do you know why?
Because gambling was created for just two reasons:
Bring money for those who create the games and fun for those who bet.
Players should never think otherwise, because although there are some exceptions, the vast majority follows the trend I mentioned above.
That said, I continue to play every month the amount I like to invest in my entertainment, I never took a dime from the sites, but I've stayed a few times without having to make new contributions, but in the end they took everything I had, because I wanted it that way. .

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June 15, 2022, 11:58:23 PM
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Never ever blame yourself for their Addiction
Of course, I'll never blame myself if other people becomes addicted. I may be the one that introduced it to them but I don't hold and control their minds and pockets.

The freedom is within their hands and everything they do have an equal reaction. So if they don't gamble moderately and they become an active gambler that affects their living and family due to the addiction.

It is them that have to recognize themselves at fault.
I hope someone would not think gambling is like a source of income because that's not how things work. And if someone wins let them enjoy what they deserve if it's for their happiness but when it comes to difficult time like someone get addicted in gambling, I hope they don't blame it to someone who introduced it to them but rather learn from their mistakes. The person who introduced them to gambling have nothing to do with their current situation where they jeopardize themselves since gambling is designed that way.

Let's just enjoy gambling as for fun and never go beyond of what we expected since it's often gonna happen even if someone has an experience it's still doesn't mean that they are winning almost every day.

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what if one of your family (Father, Mother, Brother-Sister, or Wife) or relative (Uncle, Auntie) is addicted to gambling or becomes addicted? What do you do? Here is my answer as follows,

Best thing to do is bring them to a psychologist that will help them to lessen or escape their gambling addiction. It won't work if we just give advices to that addicted relative of ours, those experts know how to deal properly with gambling addiction. They could also provide some medication that will help the gambler to control himself from gambling. We should also help them guide through their way of addiction, we can make other activities that they like to do that will distract them from remembering gambling.
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Well the trick is to not actually gamble but have an edge.

But even if you have an edge that you can verify, you also need discipline and patience.

Speaking from experience as I create bots for a living and a big part of that is sports betting. I'm not a gambler so I don't know but I imagine that's the point is its all about having an edge and also having the right mindset. You are doing this as a job not for fun (although making money is in itself kind of fun).
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The expression "the house always wins" comes to mind when seeing this topic. The only way someone is ever gonna be a winner at gambling is if they gamble 1 time, win, and never gamble again.

Anyone that gambles should be doing so with a budget knowing they likely will lose. You cannot or should not think you can make a living from gambling. You should just have a little fun and if you win you win, if you lose you lose. Don't get mad just go on living a happy life.

If a family member has a problem, you should have them call the gambling hotline or look for a support group.

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In my opinion, it is so hard to win in gambling because we tend to think more about what we can win instead of the higher possibility of getting lost again and again especially if we are dealing with provably fair games and slot games that are based on luck.

Yeah, we may win sometimes, but rather to stop, we urge to continue until we lost what we have already won and it happens like a cycle.

Well, some casinos stop operating, it may not be because they have been beaten by the bettor because it is so impossible, they may have their reason why they ended up on that decision.

For me, if ever a family member or relative got addicted to gambling because of me just like introducing it to them, of course, I will feel guilty. Cause, at the start, it's all because of me why they got involved. But if I reminded them about the risks, then it's up to them now if they continue or not and I'll let them face the consequences of their own, to realize and learn.

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Best thing to do is bring them to a psychologist that will help them to lessen or escape their gambling addiction. It won't work if we just give advices to that addicted relative of ours, those experts know how to deal properly with gambling addiction. They could also provide some medication that will help the gambler to control himself from gambling. We should also help them guide through their way of addiction, we can make other activities that they like to do that will distract them from remembering gambling.
You're correct, a simple advice from a parents wouldn't change the addict to not gambling again because he can easily gamble on many online casinos out there. No one can stop him if he want to gamble, if he got self excluded in a site, he can find another casino who doesn't know him and they will let him play. Addiction is a serious case and a professional is always needed.

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