Bonus Abuse: Who is to Blame?

[Hispo]

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Any protection system is not perfect, but casinos continue to give bonuses, because even if half of the money goes to scammers, the remaining half will go to attract new players. The final result is important - if such a waste is profitable, then the casino goes for it. Star spending and celebrity partnerships are also very expensive, but they are profitable in the end. It's the same here.

So assuming there is no flawless security system, then the bonus abusers are the only ones to blame on the eventual losses of casinos, but i also believe that before offering very appealing bonuses to new players those platforms should be aware of the potential weaknesses their systems may have, study the losses they could suffer in order to adjust the terms and conditions before launching a bonus campaign, at least this way they may know what to expect in terms of loss/benefit ratio.

Even though this marketing strategy ends up being profitable and it is a success for casinos to attract new gamblers that does not mean the search for better ways to decrease bonus abuse should stop.

[Betwrong]

If you travel to different countries, you can easily spot the difference between more cultured peoples and less cultured ones. In prosperous countries, where people are more educated and thus more cultured, you can see goods and food items for sell left on the street without anyone watching over them. ...

I don't know about you but there are a lot of prosperous countries where you just leave your stuff lying around without it being taken/stolen.

That's what I'm talking about. You can leave your stuff on the street, or you can even lose it somewhere in the park and people will return it to you.

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We have the right and the full responsibility to protect what we have and that is why casinos owners need to do routine check to make sure that there casinos is properly safe for all and I term of bonus abuse so that this will not affect other users.

Actually, with reputable casinos you shouldn't worry much about your safety there. You can relax and just play, your safety is on auto-pilot there. Don't break the rules and you'll be OK.

[molsewid]

So assuming there is no flawless security system, then the bonus abusers are the only ones to blame on the eventual losses of casinos, but i also believe that before offering very appealing bonuses to new players those platforms should be aware of the potential weaknesses their systems may have, study the losses they could suffer in order to adjust the terms and conditions before launching a bonus campaign, at least this way they may know what to expect in terms of loss/benefit ratio.

Even though this marketing strategy ends up being profitable and it is a success for casinos to attract new gamblers that does not mean the search for better ways to decrease bonus abuse should stop.

Yes I am thinking sometimes that they are already knew it or they are also aware of it, they just let it slide so that many people will create account in their website and will give them larger traffic like the way they are planning, but they also know how much losses it will come back to them, so it means they already have the estimated amount of it, I think right now there's no one to blame with.

[Vaskiy]

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Yes, casinos will always try to control their users but this is not always possible since people involved in this kind of abuse are constantly improving their skills because their earnings depend on it. In my opinion this struggle will never end, as online games cannot create a system that would identify users with 100% probability. I do not think something in this is guilty, because it is a struggle of technology.

This is the struggle of the technology. If national is is connected and accounts were created, then this might come to an end. We can't think of such things and if some online casinos come up with plans like this, it'll end-up to be a big flaw and people will surely avoid it. I've seen same person having two accounts winning in wager contests. It is their ability and they're sticking to the casino's terms and conditions.

[qwertyup23]

So assuming there is no flawless security system, then the bonus abusers are the only ones to blame on the eventual losses of casinos, but i also believe that before offering very appealing bonuses to new players those platforms should be aware of the potential weaknesses their systems may have, study the losses they could suffer in order to adjust the terms and conditions before launching a bonus campaign, at least this way they may know what to expect in terms of loss/benefit ratio.

Even though this marketing strategy ends up being profitable and it is a success for casinos to attract new gamblers that does not mean the search for better ways to decrease bonus abuse should stop.

Yes I am thinking sometimes that they are already knew it or they are also aware of it, they just let it slide so that many people will create account in their website and will give them larger traffic like the way they are planning, but they also know how much losses it will come back to them, so it means they already have the estimated amount of it, I think right now there's no one to blame with.

I think this somehow favours the gambling website despite the "bonus abuse" thad had been going around.

Generally, a player would be able to receive the bonus after topping-up a certain amount of $$$ and actually winning a gambling game. Though this bonus can be abused by creating multiple accounts in order to work, it still involves the element of attempting to play the game in which the result may go sideways. Either the player wins and receives the bonus; or the online gambling website wins and retains the cash.

It just so happened that there are players who have tons of $$$ at their disposal to the point that they can abuse and win money that is beyond their initial investment.

[Jemzx00]

So assuming there is no flawless security system, then the bonus abusers are the only ones to blame on the eventual losses of casinos, but i also believe that before offering very appealing bonuses to new players those platforms should be aware of the potential weaknesses their systems may have, study the losses they could suffer in order to adjust the terms and conditions before launching a bonus campaign, at least this way they may know what to expect in terms of loss/benefit ratio.

Even though this marketing strategy ends up being profitable and it is a success for casinos to attract new gamblers that does not mean the search for better ways to decrease bonus abuse should stop.

Yes I am thinking sometimes that they are already knew it or they are also aware of it, they just let it slide so that many people will create account in their website and will give them larger traffic like the way they are planning, but they also know how much losses it will come back to them, so it means they already have the estimated amount of it, I think right now there's no one to blame with.

They might be aware of it however I doubt that they would just let it slide. Bonus abusers doesn't really provide or attract more traffic or potential users or gamblers on the platform, instead what they attract are more bonus abusers.

Gambling platforms or casinos will try to act or do something about it once the loss overcome the profit that these bonuses produce. In short, they'll either remove the bonus or alter some information or prerequisites to avoid their bonus to be abused.

[Hispo]

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They might be aware of it however I doubt that they would just let it slide. Bonus abusers doesn't really provide or attract more traffic or potential users or gamblers on the platform, instead what they attract are more bonus abusers.

Gambling platforms or casinos will try to act or do something about it once the loss overcome the profit that these bonuses produce. In short, they'll either remove the bonus or alter some information or prerequisites to avoid their bonus to be abused.

I agree with you, abusers only attract more abusers leaving less room for those players looking to legitimately participate on the casino.
While in collegue, for example, there were some guys who were a bit into cryptocurrency and back in the day they spent much of our resting hours discussing exploits and ways to abuse platforms that offered bonuses to newcomers or those who successfully invited new people to their services. I recall they found a way to abuse Brave internet browser and the wallet called Airtm, both used to offer bonuses in their affiliating program.

I believe however, casinos must be aware of what they can or cant do to keep the cheaters away but not punish the legit glambers out the bonuses, if possible.

[Viscore]

I do not think that the increase in abuse is in any way related to the rate of cryptocurrency. In the last couple of years there are a lot of new crypto-enthusiasts who share possible cryptocurrency earnings with newbies in Youtube and other channels. This is most likely their business.

None of the game strategies can give you a guarantee in a permanent income from casino games. The same can be said about bonuses and promotions. No matter how hard you try - even by abusing the casino rules you won't be able to bankrupt the casino, as the algorithms work according to predefined parameters and will not allow you to win more than the casino earns.

Agree on factors, but disagree on abuse. If the casino security system is weak and allows you to use bonuses from fake accounts, then making a profit in this case is a purely technical procedure that is accessible even to a student. That is why casinos introduce such insane requirements for bonuses as 20x wagering or something like that.

In the end, even if there are bonuses abuse visible in gambling casinos, the gambling operators have seen it coming and prepared for it, the reason why the house still always wins over the players or gamblers. And if we talk about bonus abuse, the casinos are still profiting from it through their high wages, so casinos have never been taken advantage on the first place, but maybe the players are unintentionally.

[BitcoinPanther]

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No one else would be blamed but the casino ...

I saw many promotions abused by people, in most cases casinos had low requirements and many just saw the opportunity for making a few bucks in an easy way! In such cases, there's no one else to be blamed than casinos and teams behind. But I also see there are some professional abusers around, they are looking for new ways all the time, whatever security measures casinos make they will find a way to bypass it. So it's like the neverending war in my opinion, and all that makes it hard for us normal and honest players, more and more control.

^ For me, I think if there is someone to blame it should be the gambling casino.
First of all, before they think of distributing the bonus, they must have an idea of how to organize their events, how can abusers will abuse the bonus and there should be mechanics on how to get the bonus. Because for me, abusers were always there if a casino has an organized team and bonuses, it will not easily abuse and it should be passed by the game mechanics in able to get a bonus.

like I said before in my previous post on this thread, just because you can abuse something does not mean you should(this is not exclusively for gambling but for everything in life). solely blaming the gambling site because people can find ways to abuse the event is just moronic(no offence).

I agree with you, blaming the casino operator because someone is caught abusing the Casino bonus is just a complete bullcrap (no offence).  It is like saying it is ok to rob a house because he left his door open when going out.  Besides, as @lionheart78 stated, there are agreement between the player and the casino which prohibits acts of cheating or exploiting.  So this already nullify the claim that it is the casino's fault of letting its program be exploited.

I saw many promotions abused by people, in most cases casinos had low requirements and many just saw the opportunity for making a few bucks in an easy way! In such cases, there's no one else to be blamed than casinos and teams behind. But I also see there are some professional abusers around, they are looking for new ways all the time, whatever security measures casinos make they will find a way to bypass it. So it's like the neverending war in my opinion, and all that makes it hard for us normal and honest players, more and more control.

Good hearted people will never have difficulty in resisting temptation as this if not in a dire situation at least.  Only those who have greedy hearts and wicked mind can do this kind of thing regularly without any hesitation or every time an opportunity appears.  What worst than these people are the person who tolerates it, IMHO.

[swogerino]

I do not think that the increase in abuse is in any way related to the rate of cryptocurrency. In the last couple of years there are a lot of new crypto-enthusiasts who share possible cryptocurrency earnings with newbies in Youtube and other channels. This is most likely their business.

None of the game strategies can give you a guarantee in a permanent income from casino games. The same can be said about bonuses and promotions. No matter how hard you try - even by abusing the casino rules you won't be able to bankrupt the casino, as the algorithms work according to predefined parameters and will not allow you to win more than the casino earns.

Agree on factors, but disagree on abuse. If the casino security system is weak and allows you to use bonuses from fake accounts, then making a profit in this case is a purely technical procedure that is accessible even to a student. That is why casinos introduce such insane requirements for bonuses as 20x wagering or something like that.

In the end, even if there are bonuses abuse visible in gambling casinos, the gambling operators have seen it coming and prepared for it, the reason why the house still always wins over the players or gamblers. And if we talk about bonus abuse, the casinos are still profiting from it through their high wages, so casinos have never been taken advantage on the first place, but maybe the players are unintentionally.

Even casinos who has lower wagering requirements like 2x to 5x are well ahead of most gamblers because they know the gamblers mentality and bonuses are kinda like a bait to start gambling.Most people say I am depositing 500 dollars and getting 1000 dollars is good as a bonus so I am playing that 500 extra to get the wagering requirements past and win some money and that is good reasoning as a start.However the thing that they don't realize is that the house edge is there to bust most of the gamblers and that is why the bonuses are well planned and executed by most casinos.

[STT]

I dont see how it can be the customers fault, presuming they are not massively plotting and professionally planning theft via being fraudulent.  Almost always the business has a greater duty of care and ability to accommodate all avenues a customer might take on a website while being a customer or is this case claiming a bonus.  It doesnt pay to really deter customers while they obviously have to prevent any exploit that might occur, its a given people will always try to get a 'special bonus'  that may never have been intended, we arent surprised by this surely and its a workload most types of business have to deal with.

[blockman]

I've seen same person having two accounts winning in wager contests. It is their ability and they're sticking to the casino's terms and conditions.

Did that person was able to claim his two prizes for those contests? That's abuse and usually, the complaints that we see on the forum coming from newbies are like from this type of abuse.
When they explain it to the community, it seems that they have never done something such as cheating. But when a representative from the casino they're complaining, and they're able to be traced based on their account and activity, they're busted out for cheating.

[Sirait]

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Yes, casinos will always try to control their users but this is not always possible since people involved in this kind of abuse are constantly improving their skills because their earnings depend on it. In my opinion this struggle will never end, as online games cannot create a system that would identify users with 100% probability. I do not think something in this is guilty, because it is a struggle of technology.

You must have heard the phrase that cheaters are getting smarter every day, then it's almost impossible to break 100% of the tricks used by cheaters, moreover, the identity recognition feature is not 100% accurate. what a gambling site can do when they do promos with bonuses is to reduce the value of the bounties they give to the smallest so that cheaters who try to take advantage of being caught in the bonus system that are being held discourage their intentions because the bonus value being distributed is small.

[serjent05]

I dont see how it can be the customers fault, presuming they are not massively plotting and professionally planning theft via being fraudulent.  Almost always the business has a greater duty of care and ability to accommodate all avenues a customer might take on a website while being a customer or is this case claiming a bonus.  It doesnt pay to really deter customers while they obviously have to prevent any exploit that might occur, its a given people will always try to get a 'special bonus'  that may never have been intended, we arent surprised by this surely and its a workload most types of business have to deal with.

There are three things that may happen when a bonus exploit or glitch happens to open its opportunity.

1.  Player can report the glitch or the possible bonus exploit.
2.  Player can take advantage of these glitches or bonus exploit.
3. Player won't mind and ignore it.

Once the player started to exploit the bonus or glitch, the plan is automatically present there.  It doesn't matter if it was professionally done or not.  Once a player started exploiting the bonus, the player is automatically guilty of charges.  And should be blamed for his action when proven guilty as charged.

[Cryptomultiplier]

I dont see how it can be the customers fault, presuming they are not massively plotting and professionally planning theft via being fraudulent.  Almost always the business has a greater duty of care and ability to accommodate all avenues a customer might take on a website while being a customer or is this case claiming a bonus.  It doesnt pay to really deter customers while they obviously have to prevent any exploit that might occur, its a given people will always try to get a 'special bonus'  that may never have been intended, we arent surprised by this surely and its a workload most types of business have to deal with.

There are three things that may happen when a bonus exploit or glitch happens to open its opportunity.

1.  Player can report the glitch or the possible bonus exploit.
2.  Player can take advantage of these glitches or bonus exploit.
3. Player won't mind and ignore it.

Once the player started to exploit the bonus or glitch, the plan is automatically present there.  It doesn't matter if it was professionally done or not.  Once a player started exploiting the bonus, the player is automatically guilty of charges.  And should be blamed for his action when proven guilty as charged.

Since the advent of online gaming and gambling, there has always been cases as this. I think most of these glitches are unforeseen, in that the service provider might be new to the business, or still uses an orthodox preexistent model or has failed to update or upgrade running programs. This, creating an avenue for those greedy souls to have options of exploiting the bonuses. It is most bad when a player has found a leak or hack in the system and exploits it. Special bonuses are meant for phases of the game, it shouldn't be exploited at all.

[kawetsriyanto]

Did that person was able to claim his two prizes for those contests? That's abuse and usually, the complaints that we see on the forum coming from newbies are like from this type of abuse.

It actually depends on the rules of the contest. If the rules stated "no user can win double prizes", it is clearly an abuse to claim 2 prizes. But if no statement limiting the opportunity to win for each user/participant, I don't think claiming 2 prizes is abuse. But to be fair, commonly in every contest, the winning opportunity of each participant should be limited. Regarding the newbies, sometimes they don't read the rules carefully or know them clearly.

[nullama]

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It actually depends on the rules of the contest. If the rules stated "no user can win double prizes", it is clearly an abuse to claim 2 prizes. But if no statement limiting the opportunity to win for each user/participant, I don't think claiming 2 prizes is abuse. But to be fair, commonly in every contest, the winning opportunity of each participant should be limited. Regarding the newbies, sometimes they don't read the rules carefully or know them clearly.

Of course in the end it depends on the rules of the contest. But many people will just simply ignore rules and just try to maximize their winnings, no matter what.

That's why the checks must be done by the casino, as you can't simply assume people will follow the rules or even act morally. It's all about money for a lot of people so the casino must be robust against abuse, because it will happen.

Typical cases of this is sign up bonuses and things like that, where one person uses multiple accounts to get multiple bonuses. If the casino makes that possible, it will happen.

[AicecreaME]

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It actually depends on the rules of the contest. If the rules stated "no user can win double prizes", it is clearly an abuse to claim 2 prizes. But if no statement limiting the opportunity to win for each user/participant, I don't think claiming 2 prizes is abuse. But to be fair, commonly in every contest, the winning opportunity of each participant should be limited. Regarding the newbies, sometimes they don't read the rules carefully or know them clearly.

Of course in the end it depends on the rules of the contest. But many people will just simply ignore rules and just try to maximize their winnings, no matter what.

That's why the checks must be done by the casino, as you can't simply assume people will follow the rules or even act morally. It's all about money for a lot of people so the casino must be robust against abuse, because it will happen.

Typical cases of this is sign up bonuses and things like that, where one person uses multiple accounts to get multiple bonuses. If the casino makes that possible, it will happen.

Rules exist to be followed by the players. It should be automatically assumed that once you know the rules and policies of the platform you are using, you will avoid doing unusual or restricted activities to avoid the repercussions. However, most players don't really abide the policies, most especially if they see an opportunity to profit from it. Hence, abuses happen such as bonus abuse because the people act on their needs instead of doing what is right and just.

I agree with you that not everyone will choose to act morally, most especially when it comes to money. People like to find ways on how to generate more income. People love those hacks and tips they can utilize on their advantage. I, myself, take every opportunity that comes along my way as long as it isn't illegal, but not everyone thinks like that. So it is still the casino's responsibility to tighten their security and make a regular checking and maintenance so that there won't be glitches to be abused by others. If they want to profit and do not want to get tricked, they should invest in security of their system.

[Reatim]

This case if you are looking for somebody to be blame you will end up nothing because you don't know if you are going to blame the fraudster or The Gambler because two of them or both of them I in wrong side so what I have to say is that anyone that is a scammer you will easily detect or not the person through the attitude so I don't have to blame anybody for the incident that happened

how can you tell that both is in wrong side? the site has nothing to do from abuser and the player is in complete task in doing the best and good but they chooses to cheat or abuse the site so best to blame the last one.
I have  been gambling for years , there are chance that I almost won and  get unexpected funds but happens to be a wrong send from a address in which i return back, so let us be honest because we are not hiding anything forever.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

I agree with you, blaming the casino operator because someone is caught abusing the Casino bonus is just a complete bullcrap (no offence).  It is like saying it is ok to rob a house because he left his door open when going out.

But on the contrary, why must you leave your door open when going out, because, in as much as we do not justify the act of robbery to be good, we ought to be security conscious, which is what casino operators should always have in mind, because you do not know when an abuser may likely come, so been on the safer side will be of best advantage.