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In Asia, we have never been ideal environment for sports specially in SAARC region which is having too many conflicts and other issues regarding their divisions and economical they are also having not good position just because of this they are far behind in soccer as well even recently India done good job and with the increase of numbers in coming world cup I have feeling they could be no able to qualify for this event because this need long term strategy which is not working in India due to their political issues if they are able to settle things and have better domestic set up then surely they can achieve better results.

Surely they could be at the top with their few advantages but as I already mention things are no easy as we are talking here it's difficult task to achieve, but we can expect India could be in better shape until 2034 or 2038 World Cups.

When the All India Football Federation started Indian Super League (ISL), we had a lot of hope for the future of Indian football. They managed to bring star players from all around the world and the local players here got an opportunity to play alongside them. But 9 years have passed and still we are not witnessing much improvement in the performance of the national team (even in the age group divisions). 2034 and 2038 are very distant targets. I am not even sure whether I will live up to that date.  Grin


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In Asia, we have never been ideal environment for sports specially in SAARC region which is having too many conflicts and other issues regarding their divisions and economical they are also having not good position just because of this they are far behind in soccer as well even recently India done good job and with the increase of numbers in coming world cup I have feeling they could be no able to qualify for this event because this need long term strategy which is not working in India due to their political issues if they are able to settle things and have better domestic set up then surely they can achieve better results.

Surely they could be at the top with their few advantages but as I already mention things are no easy as we are talking here it's difficult task to achieve, but we can expect India could be in better shape until 2034 or 2038 World Cups.
When the All India Football Federation started Indian Super League (ISL), we had a lot of hope for the future of Indian football. They managed to bring star players from all around the world and the local players here got an opportunity to play alongside them. But 9 years have passed and still we are not witnessing much improvement in the performance of the national team (even in the age group divisions). 2034 and 2038 are very distant targets. I am not even sure whether I will live up to that date.  Grin
Surely this is disappointing, and they need to work on tactics which give them better results and improved quality because right now spots is the biggest industry and as we have over 1.30 Billion population this can create thousands of jobs and other ways of income for peoples with structure and other related things because right now India is on his way for incredible road which is surely another positive point for them with good investment and other things can do positive impact but need to work on have positive sporting culture which give youths energy and better way of living.

Right now, they are improving in Cricket and Hockey but sadly having not better future in this game which is surely had better source of income and profit for them and I can hope you may live long and have India in World Cup which could be surely one of the proudest time for all of us.

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Surely this is disappointing, and they need to work on tactics which give them better results and improved quality because right now spots is the biggest industry and as we have over 1.30 Billion population this can create thousands of jobs and other ways of income for peoples with structure and other related things because right now India is on his way for incredible road which is surely another positive point for them with good investment and other things can do positive impact but need to work on have positive sporting culture which give youths energy and better way of living.

Right now, they are improving in Cricket and Hockey but sadly having not better future in this game which is surely had better source of income and profit for them and I can hope you may live long and have India in World Cup which could be surely one of the proudest time for all of us.

One of the issues in India is that too much importance is given to cricket. There are some regions such as Goa, Northeast and Kerala where football used to be strong. But even in these regions now cricket is rapidly replacing football as the no.1 sport. You can't blame the fans as well. Cricket is the only sport where India has a chance of competing in the global tournaments. They have never qualified for the football world cup, and even in field hockey their performance has gone down in the recent past.

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but I agree with you that Thailand has the potential to achieve the best, because they must be recognized who are very ready for this. Thailand is very sustainable in looking for new players to become the main players in their country.
but of course it will not be easy to achieve it because we have to admit that the team of the Middle East countries (almost all the group winners) is also very potential, and the ex-Russian state of course, following the East Asian countries.


Indeed for Thailand they are show us if they are growing at the ASEAN level in the last decade. However, even though they are getting stronger in ASEAN, to be honest, I'm not sure about their performance at Asian competitions level. Thailand will lose to compete with the top 5 teams from ASIA such as South Korea, Japan, China, Australia and Saudi Arabia.
That's right, my friend, although Thailand is very good at coaching from a young age and continues to regenerate, if you enter a higher level, you will always have problems with other Asian countries. It must be admitted that for ASEAN countries it is still very difficult to improve until now, because East Asia (China, Japan, Korea) until now still can always perform well.
I agree that the top 5 teams are still held by the state, which is no longer just player development but has entered as a player at a professional level.
ASEAN still has to improve and look for methods that can be appropriate and able to improve in the future

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Indeed for Thailand they are show us if they are growing at the ASEAN level in the last decade. However, even though they are getting stronger in ASEAN, to be honest, I'm not sure about their performance at Asian competitions level. Thailand will lose to compete with the top 5 teams from ASIA such as South Korea, Japan, China, Australia and Saudi Arabia.
That's right, my friend, although Thailand is very good at coaching from a young age and continues to regenerate, if you enter a higher level, you will always have problems with other Asian countries. It must be admitted that for ASEAN countries it is still very difficult to improve until now, because East Asia (China, Japan, Korea) until now still can always perform well.
I agree that the top 5 teams are still held by the state, which is no longer just player development but has entered as a player at a professional level.
ASEAN still has to improve and look for methods that can be appropriate and able to improve in the future
Asia is full of adventures which are not favourable for sports, so they are far behind in soccer as well from Africa because UEFA and CONMEBOL are superior and right now Africa on good development but here we have not strong system and facilities are also not good in many countries which are hurting quality and skills.

Even I have feeling after Japan, Korea and China ASEAN have good potential but still it's a long way to go for them because they need few things which give them strong sponsorships and better quality here we have the biggest issue we never take this sport as big industry as right now Africa doing which will bring good relationship with UEFA because they are the biggest market and have good way of investment as they will import players from here.

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To be frank, I'm hoping that FIFA will give sanction to PSSI so it can be a lesson learned to them.
If there is no sanction, PSSI will consider this tragedy as unimportant thing and high likely there will be no improvement in the future.
The sanction I want to see is a sanction that affects the local league but does not affect the national team in the international competition.
As a fan of one local club in Indonesia, it will be sad if local league should be stopped/banned but if it can make the whole league better in the future then I'll support the ban.



If sanctions are against the league, everyone will agree. because the Indonesian league needs a fundamental revolution. while for the national team, if FIFA still allows playing in official competitions, this iwill become the fait forgiveness and Indonesian supporter must be take and advantage and more dicipline as well as possible by supporters. let's wait for the final decision of FIFA against PSSI.  incident reportedly made Arema & Persebaya fan camps agree to peace. hopefully this will come true.
Well I think that in all parts of the world there have been very ugly events of disturbances and things that have to do with not very pleasant things, to be honest I think that they do need a sanction, but not to take everything away from them, I think that the League It is one thing, but sanctioning an entire country for such an important event is not fair, and besides, as we are experiencing so many things in the world, with things of war, threats, it is not fair that something like this could happen to the people of Indonesia, It is a country that should not have its wings clipped, and even less so in something as beautiful as football.

Surely this is disappointing, and they need to work on tactics which give them better results and improved quality because right now spots is the biggest industry and as we have over 1.30 Billion population this can create thousands of jobs and other ways of income for peoples with structure and other related things because right now India is on his way for incredible road which is surely another positive point for them with good investment and other things can do positive impact but need to work on have positive sporting culture which give youths energy and better way of living.

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One of the issues in India is that too much importance is given to cricket. There are some regions such as Goa, Northeast and Kerala where football used to be strong. But even in these regions now cricket is rapidly replacing football as the no.1 sport. You can't blame the fans as well. Cricket is the only sport where India has a chance of competing in the global tournaments. They have never qualified for the football world cup, and even in field hockey their performance has gone down in the recent past.

Well, that can be a problem and it must be attacked from the root, India is a country that I want to see in a World Cup, I don't know, but I think they can do something good if they start working from yam, hiring a good coach and looking for the best players, it is not possible that they will be left without good representation, in addition there is something that can alert them and that is that they will open more quotas for the next World Cup, which should fill India with a lot of hope so that they can choose and to qualify, I know that many Indians want to see their national team there, it is something that everyone wants, and that they would feel very proud, there is time to do it.

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I was checking few things and now feeling shame about this soccer as we have nearly 3 billions peoples in just four countries which are sharing borders like China, India, Pakistan and Bangladesh and these are out of soccer world cup surely never been accepted.

But they are not good to qualify for this event with poor facilities and too much spending on defense and conflicts are surely hurting this all but no-brainer are doing any positive thing for the improvement of sports facilities and bringing quality in this region which give better results in coming years even right now China is spending good money on domestic system but still they are not near to few big Asian giants like Japan, Korea, Australia and Saudi Arab, so hopefully we will have few improvements in coming days and these countries will also have their share in soccer world with good quality and skilled players.

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 #228

I was checking few things and now feeling shame about this soccer as we have nearly 3 billions peoples in just four countries which are sharing borders like China, India, Pakistan and Bangladesh and these are out of soccer world cup surely never been accepted.

But they are not good to qualify for this event with poor facilities and too much spending on defense and conflicts are surely hurting this all but no-brainer are doing any positive thing for the improvement of sports facilities and bringing quality in this region which give better results in coming years even right now China is spending good money on domestic system but still they are not near to few big Asian giants like Japan, Korea, Australia and Saudi Arab, so hopefully we will have few improvements in coming days and these countries will also have their share in soccer world with good quality and skilled players.

China is still in a better position when compared to the sub-continental nations (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh.etc). China qualified for the world cup in 2002, although they lost all the matches. Countries such as India and Pakistan never managed to qualify for the FIFA world cup, since the focus is entirely on cricket. Even in China, the government support is primarily for athletics and other Olympic items, but the quality of the local football league is not too bad. Indonesia is another popular country, where football is quite weak. Hopefully things may change by 2026, when more AFC teams will qualify for the world cup.

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Asia is full of adventures which are not favourable for sports, so they are far behind in soccer as well from Africa because UEFA and CONMEBOL are superior and right now Africa on good development but here we have not strong system and facilities are also not good in many countries which are hurting quality and skills.

Even I have feeling after Japan, Korea and China ASEAN have good potential but still it's a long way to go for them because they need few things which give them strong sponsorships and better quality here we have the biggest issue we never take this sport as big industry as right now Africa doing which will bring good relationship with UEFA because they are the biggest market and have good way of investment as they will import players from here.

Actually there are, but for other types of sports. especially badminton which has always been dominated by Asian countries.

but in football, Asian countries are far behind compared to other countries outside Asia. such as CONMEBOL and EUFA.
in fact, currently African countries are more rapidly developing in terms of football when compared to Asia. there are many factors that make the development of football in Asia far behind, I don't really know for other Asian countries, such as Japan, or the middle east. but for ASEAN countries, there are many factors.

The quality of the league competition is still very low and there is a lack of coaching from an early age, the training infrastructure is poor and the quality of the coaches is still minimal, match fixing is still rampant, there are a myriad of problems that must be fixed by ASEAN countries.
So, in this case, it is very natural that the development of football in Asia, especially ASEAN, is very lagging behind.

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Opening match of the 2023 Asian Cup, Qatar vs Lebanon

Qatar can be favored because they have always won over Lebanon in the last 3 meetings.
This Asian Cup, Qatar is the host.
FIFA rankings, Qatar is #58. Lebanon is #107.

Next, you can choose which strongest team is your favorite to win this tournament.

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Opening match of the 2023 Asian Cup, Qatar vs Lebanon

Qatar can be favored because they have always won over Lebanon in the last 3 meetings.
This Asian Cup, Qatar is the host.
FIFA rankings, Qatar is #58. Lebanon is #107.

Next, you can choose which strongest team is your favorite to win this tournament.
12th January Friday we will have this first game at Al Bayt Stadium with on papers Qatar is very strong team and clearly looking they will win against Lebanon with good margin because relatively they are not good enough to hold them in this match even, we can expect they will be group leader because other teams are also not good enough with their current performance and quality.

13th January could be more busy day as we will have three action packed matches even mostly are looking one-sided because now, we have good difference of quality between teams which need to be cover, but it's not easy going to take long time.

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The real strongest candidates to win the Asian Cup are definitely Japan and Korea.
The squad is complete and many play in Europe. for South Korea there is Son Heung Min super star and top score totenham hotspur. Hwang He Chan is Wolverhampon's striker and is temporarily the top scorer in Wolverhamton's team.

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Opening match of the 2023 Asian Cup, Qatar vs Lebanon

Qatar can be favored because they have always won over Lebanon in the last 3 meetings.
This Asian Cup, Qatar is the host.
FIFA rankings, Qatar is #58. Lebanon is #107.

Next, you can choose which strongest team is your favorite to win this tournament.
There is no doubt that Qatar will be the favorite in this match. But surprising results can occur. Because the Lebanese national team is not a weak team either. But favoring Qatar is indeed the most realistic for this match. Because in the 2019 AFC Cup Qatar and Lebanon were also in the same group in the group stage. And yes, even then Lebanon failed to qualify from the group stage.

Realistically I want to favor South Korea and Japan this season. But personally and based on my feelings, I will still favorite the Indonesian national team. Although I'm not sure about the Indonesian National Team. But in terms of performance, Indonesia is quite good. But the problem in resolving the attack still cannot be fixed to date.

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Opening match of the 2023 Asian Cup, Qatar vs Lebanon

Qatar can be favored because they have always won over Lebanon in the last 3 meetings.
This Asian Cup, Qatar is the host.
FIFA rankings, Qatar is #58. Lebanon is #107.

Next, you can choose which strongest team is your favorite to win this tournament.
Qatar performance was not so impressive recently because they have failed to the several big tournaments and at World Cup we all know their performance was compeletely messed up because from 3 matches on group stages they unable to get the winning results and finish at the bottom of group standings and at Gulf Cup too Qatar was unlucky and they still resumes their poor performance because they were eliminated by Iraq at the semifinal match so they want to utilized this tournament to gets the trophy

Qatar as a host and they were replace China because China was decide to withdrew from hosting the Asian Cup and obviously Qatar one of team favourite to gets the trophy and at group A Qatar will joining with Tajikistan, Lebanon and China and on the paper they along with China as the strong teams at that group and for the opening match against Lebanon i am confident Qatar will being an the winner of that match but reagrding the odds the bookmakers provide low odds for Qatar @1.25

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January 05, 2024, 08:44:11 AM
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I was checking few things and now feeling shame about this soccer as we have nearly 3 billions peoples in just four countries which are sharing borders like China, India, Pakistan and Bangladesh and these are out of soccer world cup surely never been accepted.

But they are not good to qualify for this event with poor facilities and too much spending on defense and conflicts are surely hurting this all but no-brainer are doing any positive thing for the improvement of sports facilities and bringing quality in this region which give better results in coming years even right now China is spending good money on domestic system but still they are not near to few big Asian giants like Japan, Korea, Australia and Saudi Arab, so hopefully we will have few improvements in coming days and these countries will also have their share in soccer world with good quality and skilled players.
For China, it seems like it's just a matter of time until they can finally be on par with Japan, Korea, and several other Asian countries that have better football, because China is a country that pays quite a lot of attention to sports, not just football, how the sports facilities there are quite well built, seeing how enthusiastic they are hosted the Asian Games some time ago, and maybe China is the only country in Asia that is always ready to hold big sports events because of their capabilities and fast way of working.

I don't have too much hope for Indonesia, they are in a quite difficult group because Japan and Iraq will almost certainly qualify and Vietnam is also quite strong when facing Indonesia but optimism must be maintained but in reality, whatever the result is, at least they will not be in the bottom in Group D. Currently the development of football in Indonesia is quite good even though it is often linked to politics.

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January 05, 2024, 10:02:14 AM
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For China, it seems like it's just a matter of time until they can finally be on par with Japan, Korea, and several other Asian countries that have better football, because China is a country that pays quite a lot of attention to sports, not just football, how the sports facilities there are quite well built, seeing how enthusiastic they are hosted the Asian Games some time ago, and maybe China is the only country in Asia that is always ready to hold big sports events because of their capabilities and fast way of working.
I don't have too much hope for Indonesia, they are in a quite difficult group because Japan and Iraq will almost certainly qualify and Vietnam is also quite strong when facing Indonesia but optimism must be maintained but in reality, whatever the result is, at least they will not be in the bottom in Group D. Currently the development of football in Indonesia is quite good even though it is often linked to politics.
Now that we are enthusiastic about sports, we can really say that there is no one who doesn't like sports, especially football, where the majority of people remain enthusiastic in supporting it every time there is an event, especially now that the Asian Games will be held in Qatar, which is the center of attention this year.
Even technology is able to have an influence on the players who have won caps in each match when they appear at the event.

I am sure that the Indonesian national team will be the scapegoat at this year's event, even though many people are not convinced that the Garuda team, in general, will face the final match in every match, because the majority of them are better prepared than us.
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January 05, 2024, 07:33:41 PM
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The real strongest candidates to win the Asian Cup are definitely Japan and Korea.
The squad is complete and many play in Europe. for South Korea there is Son Heung Min super star and top score totenham hotspur. Hwang He Chan is Wolverhampon's striker and is temporarily the top scorer in Wolverhamton's team.
South Korea and Japan are the teams that should be considered the strongest candidates to win this major tournament between countries in Asia. It makes sense to choose South Korea and Japan because many of their players play in big leagues outside Asia.
Both of their games have matched the playing style of teams from European countries. Fast and interesting.

The strength of other Asian teams has also experienced a lot of improvement, such as Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Iran.
Australia is also a team that has the potential to win trophies apart from South Korea and Japan.

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January 05, 2024, 10:20:56 PM
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The real strongest candidates to win the Asian Cup are definitely Japan and Korea.
The squad is complete and many play in Europe. for South Korea there is Son Heung Min super star and top score totenham hotspur. Hwang He Chan is Wolverhampon's striker and is temporarily the top scorer in Wolverhamton's team.

I think that between the two, Japan has the biggest chance.
In friendly matches his performance was crazy, slaughtering all the opposing teams with a landslide score of over 3 goals.
Including them beating Germany with a convincing score of 4-1. This is good capital for them to become candidates to win the 2023 Asia Cup.
Coupled with the composition of their players who generally play in the top European leagues, only 5 of their players play in the local league. This shows that they have the best preparation for the Asian Cup.

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Today we have three games in AFC Asia Cup which is playing in Qatar with first game which played between host Qatar vs Lebanon were one sided and Qatar won by good margin of 3–0, but today we have one match which produced some action Australia beats India by 2–0 and after this match we have two more which were completely bore games with no goal and no action first China vs Tajikistan both fail to produce anything and share points after this we have Uzbekistan vs Syria where Uzbekistan were favorite to win but sadly not able to end deadlock and Syrian defense done impressive work which give them good reward and ended with sharing one point.

Now tomorrow we will have 3 more games, most chances we will have some good action as Japan and Iran are going to start their campaign.

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The real strongest candidates to win the Asian Cup are definitely Japan and Korea.
The squad is complete and many play in Europe. for South Korea there is Son Heung Min super star and top score totenham hotspur. Hwang He Chan is Wolverhampon's striker and is temporarily the top scorer in Wolverhamton's team.

I think that between the two, Japan has the biggest chance.
In friendly matches his performance was crazy, slaughtering all the opposing teams with a landslide score of over 3 goals.
Including them beating Germany with a convincing score of 4-1. This is good capital for them to become candidates to win the 2023 Asia Cup.
Coupled with the composition of their players who generally play in the top European leagues, only 5 of their players play in the local league. This shows that they have the best preparation for the Asian Cup.
Winning friendly games aren't a yardstick to measure a team's performance and despite beating Germany with a 4:1 scoreline, I still do not fancy Japan as a better contender for the Asian Cup than South Korea. There's no doubt to the fact that both Japan and South Korea are the favorites to win the tournament but should for any reason, Japan and South Korea makes it to the final, I'll be banking my money on South Korea to win Japan and lift the trophy.
South Korea are boasts of two incredible English Premier League players who are the top scorer of their respective clubs in the EPL this season. Son Heung-Min and Hwang He Chan are two prolific forward players that are in the Korean team and I expect them to help their country win the tournament

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