Asian Cup 2023 Prediction and Discussion

[Rampagoe004]

Of course realistically winning is quite difficult almost impossible, but it can happen. Everything can happen in football. In terms of the game, Indonesia is still developing, Indonesia is not as good as Japan. But I really enjoy the development of Indonesia, they are improving. As an Indonesian, I hope the miracle happens. At least Indonesia can make a new history to qualify for the knockout stages with the status of 2nd group winner or 3rd best. I think Indonesians are hoping the same as me.

I agree with what you said. Currently, the Indonesian people hope that Indonesia can qualify for the next round with at least 3rd place status. Currently, as far as I know, Indonesia is in second place as the third best team after Bahrain surprisingly beat Malaysia 1-0. I think Indonesia is very difficult to win against Japan. Even the Indonesian coach also mentioned that currently they are trying to build a team for the long term. This is supported by the fact that Indonesia is the youngest national team compared to the average age of players in this Asian Cup. So I just hope that Indonesia is at least able to draw with Japan.

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[rendravolt]

South Korea refused to lose and they managed to equalize at 2-2 in the final minutes of the match. I think Jordan is one step closer to securing an additional 3 points and at the same time becoming the leader of group E with a difference of 3 points from South Korea, but strangely in this match both teams made mistakes with an own goal scored by their players. Things like this rarely happen and even though the two teams can only share 1 point at least the result is quite optimal.

South Korea was the favorite from the start in this match, but who would have thought that Son Heung Min and his colleagues would actually be rendered helpless against Jordan and their defense was very strong to stop South Korea's attack. In the end, both teams both collected the same 4 points and the final match against their respective opponents will be decisive for Jordan and South Korea to become group winners and also qualify for the next round.

[Sunderland]

South Korea refused to lose and they managed to equalize at 2-2 in the final minutes of the match. I think Jordan is one step closer to securing an additional 3 points and at the same time becoming the leader of group E with a difference of 3 points from South Korea, but strangely in this match both teams made mistakes with an own goal scored by their players. Things like this rarely happen and even though the two teams can only share 1 point at least the result is quite optimal.

South Korea was the favorite from the start in this match, but who would have thought that Son Heung Min and his colleagues would actually be rendered helpless against Jordan and their defense was very strong to stop South Korea's attack. In the end, both teams both collected the same 4 points and the final match against their respective opponents will be decisive for Jordan and South Korea to become group winners and also qualify for the next round.

Based on the previous Asian Cup games, Jordan and Australia are the best defensive team in this tournament.
The draw results is not that surprising either, South Korea will show how good their speed and stamina when facing an attacking style team such as Arab, Iran, Japan and else.

South Korea has a better chance to become the winner of the group, they only need to score as much as they can against Malaysia on Thursday.
Jordan on the other side must face Bahrain who still has a chance to qualify if they able beat Jordan.
Also a draw might be enough for Bahrain to qualify as the best 3rd place team.

[rahmad2nd]

Oman vs Thailand.

This match ended in a draw without any goals from either side, even though Oman actually dominated the match. overall, the Oman national team squad really dominated the game, especially as Oman played more aggressively and really dominated in the second half. unfortunately, even though the Oman national team controlled the match, they didn't have many opportunities. From the normal 90 minutes, Oman only had 6 total shots, 1 on target, 4 off target, 1 shot blocked and not a single big chance or threat to the Thai national team's goal in this match.

On the other hand, the Thai national team did not play well enough. But at least, they were able to withstand every attack made by the opposing team. it could be said that Thailand was able to keep up even though they played deeper and defended more. however, Thailand also has several opportunities, although they are not much different from the opportunities that the Oman national team has. the difference is, the Thai national team has 1 big chance and 1 missed big chance. the final result of this match did not result in goals from either team. in the end, Thailand is currently ranked 2nd behind Saudi Arabia. Initially, I thought this match would result in 3 goals or a draw with a score of 2-2. that's why, I have two options in betting choice. Over 2.25, but clearly this prediction failed miserably. while the real option, I side with Thailand with a handicap of +0.25 or +0.5. this prediction is as I expected. with this result, Thailand only needs a draw against Saudi Arabia later. Meanwhile, Oman must win against Kyrgystan in the next match and hope that Thailand loses to Saudi. In other matches, Saudi Arabia just beat Kyrgystan with a score of 0-2. thus, Saudi Arabia remains in first place in the Group F phase.

[bitvalak]

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However, Japan is not an easy team to beat, especially as they are one of the defending champions on the Asian continent.
The most reasonable temporary prediction is that Indonesia can achieve a draw or lose to Japan. But anything can happen in a match, Iraq is proof that they are also capable of beating Japan.

Of course realistically winning is quite difficult almost impossible, but it can happen. Everything can happen in football. In terms of the game, Indonesia is still developing, Indonesia is not as good as Japan. But I really enjoy the development of Indonesia, they are improving. As an Indonesian, I hope the miracle happens. At least Indonesia can make a new history to qualify for the knockout stages with the status of 2nd group winner or 3rd best. I think Indonesians are hoping the same as me.

Obviously Japan is not a suitable level for Indonesia. By seeing the results of Iraq being able to win against Japan, Indonesia's scheme has now changed to aiming for the third best position in all groups. That's the only way to qualify for the top 16. But it is also worth waiting for the Japan vs Indonesia match, whether Indonesia is able to score at least 1 goal against Japan. Once again, this is football, sometimes FIFA rankings don't mean anything. The proof is that Iraq was able to beat Japan even though the FIFA rankings were quite far apart. If Indonesia has to lose to Japan it cannot be more than 1 goal, or its chance of qualifying for the last 16 via the best 3rd ranking route will be lost.

[AakZaki]

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Indonesia needs to improve quality if they want to progress with their current performance things are not easy for them to have spot into round of the 16 as many teams are doing good job and have fair chance for staying at the above ranks and in future we can expect from them as well but this time it's not easy.

Currently only Iraq and Qatar have definitely qualified, they are just waiting for the other 14 countries. Even Japan and South Korea who are the favourites still have to fight until the end of the group stage. Group F is yet to be seen but Saudi Arabia is definitely one of them. It seems that they will also soon send the top 3 to compete for the knockout phase. 

As for Jordan vs South Korea, even I was surprised by the result. Jordan could get 1 point and even take the lead. I thought South Korea was capable of winning, but it seems that leading countries like Japan and South Korea, where the majority of players play in Europe, cannot underestimate other countries, especially East Asian countries.

[MAAManda]

Indonesia doesn't have to beat Japan to have a chance of advancing to the next round, according to my analysis, they only need a draw, so that will most likely make them one of the best third-place teams. We have to be honest that Indonesia will not possibly beat Japan, so a draw is a more reasonable result.

True, a draw can be enough for Indonesia to qualify to the next round but both a draw and a win are something that maybe hard to do for Indonesia as they are playing against one of the best teams in Asia. It is not impossible but the chance is just too small for Indonesia to get a draw or a win against Japan. A lose may still make Indonesia advanced to the next round but of course it will also depend on other results in other groups. As long as Indonesia remains on the top 4 of the best 3rd position team, they will go to the next round. Lets just pray for the best to our National team.

I think losing isn't a wise choice for Indonesia, because hoping for the results of other matches is something that's out of control. BTW, do you know the odds for Japan to win this match? it's just @1.03 . You can see the complete 1X2 bet in the image below:

Image Source: Rollbit

With all this, winning or drawing is a dead option for Indonesia, of course this is also a good opportunity for bettors who want to bet on handicap betting, I think Indonesia will do their best to prevent Japan from scoring many goals.

[bering]

Qatar vs China

China was displayed poor performance during this tournament because from 2 latest matches they were unable to gets the winning results and China also still unable to scores even in the last match they have failed to win from weak team Lebanon and now China is under pressure because if they want to qualified then win result from this match will be mandatory and for their opponent Qatar i think this team in the comfortable position because with collect 6 points from 2 matches obviously they have already to qualified but probably Qatar too want targetting win result from this match because they want to ended group stages as group champion

China from the previous tournament in 2019 can advance to the quarterfinals at that time they can qualified as runner up position of group stages but unfortunately they have lost with 3-0 from Iran on quarterfinal and now i am sure they want to do the same achievement just like on 2019 however according to the odds for this match Qatar is still the favourite but because they have already to qualified so i assume Qatar will be rested some of their key players to ensure those players has good fitness to play at round of 16 and if this really happend i think there is a chance for China to win this match

[arimamib]

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Obviously Japan is not a suitable level for Indonesia. By seeing the results of Iraq being able to win against Japan, Indonesia's scheme has now changed to aiming for the third best position in all groups. That's the only way to qualify for the top 16. But it is also worth waiting for the Japan vs Indonesia match, whether Indonesia is able to score at least 1 goal against Japan. Once again, this is football, sometimes FIFA rankings don't mean anything. The proof is that Iraq was able to beat Japan even though the FIFA rankings were quite far apart. If Indonesia has to lose to Japan it cannot be more than 1 goal, or its chance of qualifying for the last 16 via the best 3rd ranking route will be lost.

I think Indonesia dont have a strong mentality to play their best football in a crucial game. The fact that they have to play against Japan is extremely not in their favor to get a required result to progress the next round. It's understandable that Indonesia is adjusting its strategy to aim for the third-best position in the group, considering the competition. the recent Iraq vs Japan result serves as a reminder that underdogs can triumph against higher-ranked teams.

Regarding the goal difference, the upcoming Japan vs Indonesia match will indeed be crucial. Limiting the loss to Japan to just one goal is essential for Indonesia's chances of qualifying for the last 16 through the best 3rd ranking route. Football has a way of surprising us, and a strong performance against Japan could potentially secure Indonesia's spot in the next stage. It will be an exciting match, and anything can happen on the field.

[Luzin]

Regarding the goal difference, the upcoming Japan vs Indonesia match will indeed be crucial. Limiting the loss to Japan to just one goal is essential for Indonesia's chances of qualifying for the last 16 through the best 3rd ranking route. Football has a way of surprising us, and a strong performance against Japan could potentially secure Indonesia's spot in the next stage. It will be an exciting match, and anything can happen on the field.

I'm waiting for Indonesia to make a good history. I think they can but statistically it seems impossible. It looks like STY will have to play 5 defenders 2 defensive midfielders. Jordi Amat, Hubner, Baggot, Walsh and Pattynama should all play. The reason is that they have experience competing with players who may be on par with Japanese players. Maybe the first strategy, at least STY should play closed and rely on counterattacks. But I also doubt if they will be able to hold out for 90 minutes. 

[Strongkored]

South Korea refused to lose and they managed to equalize at 2-2 in the final minutes of the match. I think Jordan is one step closer to securing an additional 3 points and at the same time becoming the leader of group E with a difference of 3 points from South Korea, but strangely in this match both teams made mistakes with an own goal scored by their players. Things like this rarely happen and even though the two teams can only share 1 point at least the result is quite optimal.

South Korea was the favorite from the start in this match, but who would have thought that Son Heung Min and his colleagues would actually be rendered helpless against Jordan and their defense was very strong to stop South Korea's attack. In the end, both teams both collected the same 4 points and the final match against their respective opponents will be decisive for Jordan and South Korea to become group winners and also qualify for the next round.

The own goal occurred in a different half and South Korea seemed to have difficulty scoring goals in this match because apart from the Jordanian player's mistake, the other goal came from the penalty point, and the Jordanian player's own goal was the result of pressure put on by South Korea to get points in this match.
South Korea will face Malaysia in the third match and Jordan will face Bahrain. South Korea and Jordan will be the favorites to get 3 points in this match, and Malaysia will be the bottom team.
Song Heung Min, who is a mainstay at his club, will once again be a mainstay for South Korea to achieve victory in the third match. In fact, it is very possible that there will be a lot of goals and my prediction is that South Korea will score more than three goals seeing how Jordan managed to score 4 goals when they beat Malaysia.

[8rch7]

I'm waiting for Indonesia to make a good history. I think they can but statistically it seems impossible. It looks like STY will have to play 5 defenders 2 defensive midfielders. Jordi Amat, Hubner, Baggot, Walsh and Pattynama should all play. The reason is that they have experience competing with players who may be on par with Japanese players. Maybe the first strategy, at least STY should play closed and rely on counterattacks. But I also doubt if they will be able to hold out for 90 minutes. 

Indonesian team have waiting for other teams matches result if want finished on best 3rd standings position, right now Indonesian team have on second standing for the best 3rd teams but have waiting the last matches result group stage before speculating with Indonesian team will qualify to next round or not. Last winning match against Vietnam, Indonesian team have losses their defender Jordi Amat, he got noise injury and can't predictable he will be ready for last and crucial match against Japan?
I hope STY will make more defense on last match against Japan, one point actually help Indonesian team will finish on the best 3rd standings position and Japan still qualify to next round trough second standings team finish position.

[karabiber]

The final group matches of the Asian Cup are underway. Hong Kong finished their matches against the United Arab Emirates and Iran without points, but despite the negative results they dazzled with their football, especially against Iran. Throughout the match I saw a team that fought for every ball and didn't hesitate to take risks. Hong Kong have no top two chances, but if they win here there is a possibility of a top three finish. Palestine, whose only point so far has come from the United Arab Emirates, will have to win this match and wait for the United Arab Emirates to lose to Iran and also for the difference in the standings to turn in their favor. On the other hand, even if this scenario does not materialize, it is likely that they will be one of the best third placed teams with four points in case of victory.

Therefore, it will be 90 minutes in which both teams will go out with the absolute three points and a draw will not help anyone. Palestine stand out with both the serious support they received in Qatar and the quality of their squad, but Hong Kong, who we have watched so far, are definitely not a team to be underestimated in this group. There is a mutual goal for betting would be a very logical option.

[Ahli38]

I'm waiting for Indonesia to make a good history. I think they can but statistically it seems impossible. It looks like STY will have to play 5 defenders 2 defensive midfielders. Jordi Amat, Hubner, Baggot, Walsh and Pattynama should all play. The reason is that they have experience competing with players who may be on par with Japanese players. Maybe the first strategy, at least STY should play closed and rely on counterattacks. But I also doubt if they will be able to hold out for 90 minutes. 

Indonesian team have waiting for other teams matches result if want finished on best 3rd standings position, right now Indonesian team have on second standing for the best 3rd teams but have waiting the last matches result group stage before speculating with Indonesian team will qualify to next round or not. Last winning match against Vietnam, Indonesian team have losses their defender Jordi Amat, he got noise injury and can't predictable he will be ready for last and crucial match against Japan?
I hope STY will make more defense on last match against Japan, one point actually help Indonesian team will finish on the best 3rd standings position and Japan still qualify to next round trough second standings team finish position.

It is really difficult to hope that Indonesia can beat Japan. And indeed the strategy that might have to be used is just a defensive strategy and making a counterattack. But if indonesian losing against Japan is actually nothing to be ashamed of. So I hope that the Indonesian national team players can play completely without burden and play optimally in this match. Because if the Indonesian national team can play calmly and confidently then I think Indonesia can play better and it's not even impossible to win against Japan. Because in the match against Iraq, we can see that the quality of the goals that Indonesia managed to score in that match was truly extraordinary and very classy. So the task of Indonesian players is simply to be able to minimize errors in sending passes. And don't panic easily when the opposing team manages to enter the defense area. I see that the disease that the Indonesian national team has is panic and making lots of unnecessary mistakes. Because without these two mistakes, I think that the strategy created by STY is very good.

[aylabadia05]

I think losing isn't a wise choice for Indonesia, because hoping for the results of other matches is something that's out of control. BTW, do you know the odds for Japan to win this match? it's just @1.03 . You can see the complete 1X2 bet in the image below:

Image Source: Rollbit

Personally I dare to take the choice of odds for Indonesia. 40 ODDS is too big because Indonesia is considered to have hope to win the match against Japan in the third match of Group D.
Japan only needs a draw to ensure that qualifying together with Iraq because Japan points will be 4 if the results against Indonesia draw.

I dare to rely on Indonesia against Japan because when Japan against Iraq, Japan is overwhelmed when Iraq focuses on defensive games.
Shin Tae-yong needs to apply or copy the Iraq strategy when they defeat Japan because Indonesia also has fast players like Marselino Ferdinan.

[rendravolt]

The Qatar vs China match is underway and this is the last match in Group A to determine the group winner and who will progress to the next round. As hosts, Qatar is definitely guaranteed to qualify because they got 6 points from winning the previous 2 matches and China must win if they want to occupy the runner up position. I think even though Qatar has the upper hand, they definitely still want to be able to wipe out all the matches with a win and here China looks unlucky because in the last match they have to face Qatar. The score is still tied and no goals have been scored but Qatar is very confident that they can win in the final match of this group.

Meanwhile, China's chances of qualifying will also become increasingly slim if the other group A match between Tajikistan vs Lebanon, one of them can win and will get 4 points and if China loses then they will only collect 3 points. A very complicated match for the final result and I think this will be a life and death match between the other 3 teams trying to get the runner up position.

[udidrone]

Personally I dare to take the choice of odds for Indonesia. 40 ODDS is too big because Indonesia is considered to have hope to win the match against Japan in the third match of Group D.
Japan only needs a draw to ensure that qualifying together with Iraq because Japan points will be 4 if the results against Indonesia draw.

I dare to rely on Indonesia against Japan because when Japan against Iraq, Japan is overwhelmed when Iraq focuses on defensive games.
Shin Tae-yong needs to apply or copy the Iraq strategy when they defeat Japan because Indonesia also has fast players like Marselino Ferdinan.

It's too risky if you bet on Indonesia to win why not take another option like Draw No Bet Indonesia the odds are also quite high x10 we know anything can happen in a match but we also have to consider the match situation because Japan is one of the favorite teams in this tournament, n fact we often see Japan reaching the semifinals or even the final so you should consider your bets unless you are ready for the risk. I personally will try betting on both teams to score somehow I think Indonesia can score at least one goal.

[8rch7]

Current score match result for group A seems advantage for Indonesian team to get best 3rd place position, until 75th minutes Qatar lead 1-0 over China and other match Tajikistan 0 vs 1 Lebanon. If this score keep defend until the end match automatically Indonesia has advantage become best 3rd standings position if losses against Japan. I hope this match result defend until the end exactly for Qatar must make clean sheet winning in group phase with current starting line up use reserve composition.
Tomorrow, Indonesia have waiting Group B and Group C result matches to get potential will qualify to next round although loss many goals from Japan, personally I don't really expected with Indonesia can take one points against Japan and realistic loss under two goals is better result for my national teams.

• Qatar 1 vs 0 China
• Tajikistan 0 vs 1 Lebanon

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• Qatar 1 vs 0 China
• Tajikistan 2 vs 1 Lebanon

Finally this group qualify to next round Qatar and Tajikistan, likely not possibility for best 3rd standings team in Group A.

[tbterryboy]

Current score match result for group A seems advantage for Indonesian team to get best 3rd place position, until 75th minutes Qatar lead 1-0 over China and other match Tajikistan 0 vs 1 Lebanon. If this score keep defend until the end match automatically Indonesia has advantage become best 3rd standings position if losses against Japan. I hope this match result defend until the end exactly for Qatar must make clean sheet winning in group phase with current starting line up use reserve composition.
Tomorrow, Indonesia have waiting Group B and Group C result matches to get potential will qualify to next round although loss many goals from Japan, personally I don't really expected with Indonesia can take one points against Japan and realistic loss under two goals is better result for my national teams.

• Qatar 1 vs 0 China
• Tajikistan 0 vs 1 Lebanon

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After 75th minutes goal disallow Tajikistan score again 81st minute goal which bring down Lebanon and now China is again at the second spot which is losing match against host and defending champions Qatar things are interested in these both matches as now we are heading for the end of the group stages and Qatar and China are going to be qualified for the next round with few results are also confirmed but still we have to wait for the more matches how things will be gone which is interested in coming matches, but we have too much talk about Indonesia and their chances for the qualification into next round which is not easy because their next game is against Japan which is also one of the best team and will give their best for having better result into their last game.

Edit: 93rd minute goal from Tajikistan bring them to the second spot, and now they will join Qatar for the next round match after trailing with one goal now winning in last minutes is impressive from them.

[FanEagle]

Personally I dare to take the choice of odds for Indonesia. 40 ODDS is too big because Indonesia is considered to have hope to win the match against Japan in the third match of Group D.
Japan only needs a draw to ensure that qualifying together with Iraq because Japan points will be 4 if the results against Indonesia draw.

I dare to rely on Indonesia against Japan because when Japan against Iraq, Japan is overwhelmed when Iraq focuses on defensive games.
Shin Tae-yong needs to apply or copy the Iraq strategy when they defeat Japan because Indonesia also has fast players like Marselino Ferdinan.

It's too risky if you bet on Indonesia to win why not take another option like Draw No Bet Indonesia the odds are also quite high x10 we know anything can happen in a match but we also have to consider the match situation because Japan is one of the favorite teams in this tournament, n fact we often see Japan reaching the semifinals or even the final so you should consider your bets unless you are ready for the risk. I personally will try betting on both teams to score somehow I think Indonesia can score at least one goal.

Quality and current performance clearly showing how things will be gone in this match and most chances Japan will be also at his best as they are one of the favourites for this cup, and they will give their best to win this game and jumps for the next round I have no doubt Japan will be winner even have no chance for the draw, but Indonesian fans are creating good hype about their team which is having not good depth for the qualifying into next round currently odds for the Indonesia is @30 which are quite high even deserve some risk but most chances nothing will be happened.

In this event, Japan having problem with their defense as they are conceding 2 goals in every match which is surely not good, but their attack response is also good as they are scoring goals but still defeat against Iraq is shocking for their fans, and now they will not repeat performance like this against Indonesia.