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August 17, 2022, 03:56:45 PM
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I went against Benfica actually, thought there was a bit of home value for Kyiv (and I hope they'll be playing with extra bit of pride with all the goings on, a slim win shouldn't be impossible) at just over 5/1. Nothing fancy, just everything on the line for the home team.

Too much room for draws today too, so no accas for me sir.
Yeah, there is good value for Dynamo win, and they have potential for it. And I would like to see them winning. But Benfica is looking very solid in the start of season.

I think i'm leaning towards Qarabag. They've a really solid squad, particularly good players up front. I believe i've already mentioned their center forward Wadji in this thread. They scored five goals against Lech and Zurich, and four against Ferencvaros. The first leg away from home will be extremely difficult for the Czechs. Qarabag took part in the UCL group stages a few years ago and will be eager to return and compete against the best teams in Europe, as they are only two matches away from achieving their goal. Give me Qarabag here.

Good point about Qarabag. They completely destroyed Lech, were leading against Ferencvaros 3:0 away. They have good chance because Plzen is similar level like Lech or Ferencvaros.

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August 17, 2022, 05:04:18 PM
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I went against Benfica actually, thought there was a bit of home value for Kyiv (and I hope they'll be playing with extra bit of pride with all the goings on, a slim win shouldn't be impossible) at just over 5/1. Nothing fancy, just everything on the line for the home team.

Too much room for draws today too, so no accas for me sir.
Yeah, there is good value for Dynamo win, and they have potential for it. And I would like to see them winning. But Benfica is looking very solid in the start of season.

I think i'm leaning towards Qarabag. They've a really solid squad, particularly good players up front. I believe i've already mentioned their center forward Wadji in this thread. They scored five goals against Lech and Zurich, and four against Ferencvaros. The first leg away from home will be extremely difficult for the Czechs. Qarabag took part in the UCL group stages a few years ago and will be eager to return and compete against the best teams in Europe, as they are only two matches away from achieving their goal. Give me Qarabag here.

Good point about Qarabag. They completely destroyed Lech, were leading against Ferencvaros 3:0 away. They have good chance because Plzen is similar level like Lech or Ferencvaros.


Qarabag started already as they still tie in the first half without any goal from both side. The game is a strong one as I expect a draw finally.
Benfica has a good start to the Champions League game's keeping a good defending structure with clean sheets of six to seven game's.
Vitality Dynamo's top stricker should be hoping to get a goal here as he has a good record in the champions league from last season.

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August 17, 2022, 07:27:00 PM
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The only thing i can think when i see Qarabag its remember the mega effort they do in the only group stage they went in.

A death group with Atl Madrid Chelsea and Roma, and they managed to draw the two matches agains Madrid, making atletico go to the Europa League (after that Atletico wins that tournament) but impressive performance by qarabag.

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August 17, 2022, 07:47:04 PM
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Benfica is up against Dinamo, and they will probably end up qualifying for group stage
Crvena Zvezda is also in the lead in Israel, and it should be enough for them to qualify as well, Maccabi scored for an early lead, but things are going back to normal at the moment, and Zvezda is controlling the match
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August 17, 2022, 07:57:34 PM
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Benfica is up against Dinamo, and they will probably end up qualifying for group stage
Crvena Zvezda is also in the lead in Israel, and it should be enough for them to qualify as well, Maccabi scored for an early lead, but things are going back to normal at the moment, and Zvezda is controlling the match

After the first half, Benfica is winning by 2 to 0.
Despite Dinamo Kiev's good effort, Benfica has been on top in general. Will the Dinamo coach make changes, which allow Benfica's dominance to be reversed? We'll see how the second part goes.

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August 17, 2022, 08:15:19 PM
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I was really hopeful about Trabzonspor to have an advantageous result in the first leg against FC Copenhagen. However they struggled quite much and FC Copenhagen benefited from their mistakes really nicely. Both of their goals were as a result of the mistakes of Trabzonspor defense. But I think Trabzonspor's goal still keeps them in this round. In the rematch Trabzonspor still can eliminate their opponent unless they continue to make simple defensive mistakes.

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Benfica is up against Dinamo, and they will probably end up qualifying for group stage
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Benfica is leading with 2 goals after 60 minutes of the game against Kyiv. So far it is a reassuring result if they could keep it that way or add another goal.
Zvezda is behind after receiving another goal, 3-2..
I didn't check Bodo result but they won against Zagreb!
Overall, a part Benfica (until now), second leg will be difficult for all teams since the goals difference aren't that big

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August 17, 2022, 08:26:56 PM
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I wonder if Dynamo will be able to score against Benfica. Before the game I was sure that Dinamo would lose and that they would not be able to score, but there are still about 20 minutes to play...
As for Maccabi Haifa vs Crevna Zvezda the match looks very hot... I thought the Israelis wouldn't score so much... And in general I thought that Crevna was the favourite in this game...
Karabakh Agdam also surprised, it was a pity they could not win with so many attacks...
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August 17, 2022, 08:56:06 PM
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I wonder if Dynamo will be able to score against Benfica. Before the game I was sure that Dinamo would lose and that they would not be able to score, but there are still about 20 minutes to play...
As for Maccabi Haifa vs Crevna Zvezda the match looks very hot... I thought the Israelis wouldn't score so much... And in general I thought that Crevna was the favourite in this game...
Karabakh Agdam also surprised, it was a pity they could not win with so many attacks...


Benfica as expected won against Dinamo Kiev with 0-2 and i think this lead is enough for the second match, Dinamo Kiev has a mission impossible against them. Crvena Zvezda also lost against Maccabi Haifa and now have a hard mission to go to the champions league
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August 17, 2022, 11:07:08 PM
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It's bad that Bitcointalk don't have fire emoji because it perfectly would describe Maccabi Haifa - Crvena Zvezda game where Maccabi won 3:2. But Zvezda still have good chances to reach group stage, 2nd leggame will be played in Belgrade.
Didn't watched Qarabag - Plzen game which ended 0:0. From stats it looks that Qarabag doiminated game, but fact that they didn't managed to score at home can host them very expensive.

Benfica as expected won against Dinamo Kiev with 0-2 and i think this lead is enough for the second match, Dinamo Kiev has a mission impossible against them. Crvena Zvezda also lost against Maccabi Haifa and now have a hard mission to go to the champions league
Wouldn't say that's mission impossible for Dynamo, they had few chances to score. But yeah, Benfica made very big step towards to group stage.

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August 18, 2022, 06:43:34 AM
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Benfica as expected won against Dinamo Kiev with 0-2 and i think this lead is enough for the second match, Dinamo Kiev has a mission impossible against them. Crvena Zvezda also lost against Maccabi Haifa and now have a hard mission to go to the champions league
Wouldn't say that's mission impossible for Dynamo, they had few chances to score. But yeah, Benfica made very big step towards to group stage.

Dynamo Kiev will have available, in the second leg, two good players, who were suspended and could not play this game. But, if Benfica plays the same way they played in the first leg, it will be very difficult to lose.

We cannot forget that many Dynamo players would leave this season. Unfortunately, the situation in Ukraine does not allow the club to maintain the quality of the squad it had before. And that doesn't help.

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August 18, 2022, 12:28:27 PM
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Benfica as expected won against Dinamo Kiev with 0-2 and i think this lead is enough for the second match, Dinamo Kiev has a mission impossible against them. Crvena Zvezda also lost against Maccabi Haifa and now have a hard mission to go to the champions league
Wouldn't say that's mission impossible for Dynamo, they had few chances to score. But yeah, Benfica made very big step towards to group stage.

Dynamo Kiev will have available, in the second leg, two good players, who were suspended and could not play this game. But, if Benfica plays the same way they played in the first leg, it will be very difficult to lose.

We cannot forget that many Dynamo players would leave this season. Unfortunately, the situation in Ukraine does not allow the club to maintain the quality of the squad it had before. And that doesn't help.
Yes, Dynamo Kyiv club is having problems due to the situation in Ukraine. Although there are shortcomings in the return match, in my opinion, the probability of Kiev winning the match is very low. Benfica is a very stable team and continues to climb the steps of success by adding something to it every year. After Benfica scored two goals, they already changed their plans and retreated a little more. this tactic worked well for them.
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Qarabag could have scored a few goals and have a strong lead before the rematch, but the Czech goalkeeper had himself a night, making some spectacular saves. I expect today's game to be open (like the one in Azerbaijan), but with goals. In my free bet, i'm sneaking in APOEL DNB from the Confs. League. The Swedes have a three-goal lead and i don't expect them to be as sharp as they were in the first leg. The temperature in Nicosia at this time is around 30°C, which should give the home team a significant advantage.

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August 23, 2022, 03:49:25 PM
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Probably it's good choice for Plzen - Qarabag game. It looks like difficult to predict game, despite that Qarabg dominated 1st leg. New game, new story. My prediction that Crvena Zvezda will win game against Maccabi Haifa with minimal score and it will go to extra time. And then it will be 50/50. Though, probably for whole performance in qualifiers Maccabi more deserved spot in group stage and they had more difficult opponents.
With all my simpathy tp Dynamo Kyiv, let's be realistic, Benfica is going to win today. But I don't know good value bets for this game, maybe over 2.5 goals, I haven't checked yet.

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Turkey have only one team left in the Champions League now. Things didn't go the way they expected for Fenerbahce and they are most probably in the Europa League group stage soon. But Trabzonspor still have a chance for the group stage in the Champions League.

I saw some negative things in their first match against FC Copenhagen. Their defensive performance wasn't good enough and this caused them to lose by 2-1. The goals Trabzonspor conceded were very simple. They will need to defend their opponent tighter in their home stadium to still have a chance for eliminating them. On the other hand, they lost to Antalyaspor by a huge score like 5-2 in the Turkish Super League a few days ago.

So I wonder whether they will have problems on boosting their morale for the rematch here. Trabzonspor need to score the first goal otherwise they would be worse mentally and be eliminated most probably.

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UEFA Champions League The team leading the race for the trophy is PSG We all can see that PSG is currently performing very well Messi and Neymar's brilliant attacks and Hakimi's excellent assists from the midfield are terrifying for the opposition Currently, Neymar and Messi are in very good form. In the last few matches, Neymar has scored in every match In addition to scoring himself, Neymar also scored many goals with others. If neymar and messi can maintain their product then I believe PSG will win the UEFA Champions League trophy.
We all know that Messi's early performances at PSG were not very good. Neymar's pairing with Messi was not so eye-catching But now it seems that Messi and Neymar are performing very well in PSG. The kind of understanding they had in Barcelona, ​​we can see that kind of understanding in PSG today, as a result of which PSG is winning one match after another.  If Neymar Messi can continue his performance regularly then the chances of PSG winning this season's UEFA Champions League are very high.
The duo Neymar and Messi, really have had a brilliant performance in their recent last games , this is a sign of improvement, good understanding and the need for both to start leaving up to expectation after they had a very poor performance last season and since the signing of Lionel Messi to the club. However,  though I rep Paris Sant German to become the next UEFA champions, I don't see them for now lifting the UEFA Champions League trophy this season until there performance is been tested aside the Ligue 1 when they face other strong club like, Real Madrid ,Manchester city, Bayern Munich, Liverpool , Chelsea and Juventus, that is only when I will have full confidence in them.

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August 23, 2022, 05:50:09 PM
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I am waiting for Trabzonspor vs Copenhagen match with interest. Denmark's Copenhagen team had a weak squad, but they played a better game than Trabzonspor and they won the first match. I wonder what kind of tactic they will play in Trabzon tomorrow. I think their aim will be to win a draw, so they will wait on defense and look for opportunities to counterattack. Trabzonspor have talented players like Abdulkadir, Bardhi and Bakesetas to open closed defences. Tomorrow they will have important tasks.

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August 23, 2022, 06:35:27 PM
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My prediction that Crvena Zvezda will win game against Maccabi Haifa with minimal score and it will go to extra time. And then it will be 50/50.

will definitely be an interesting one, Zvezda is a bit better team, but Haifa played great at home
home ground advantage can be seen here, and I expect from Zvezda to pass, although it is far from guaranteed (@1.75 it deserves places on my parlay)

Benfica should be a win at home, although Dinamo is solid, and Plzen will probably pass as well (will put them to qualify)
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Probably no one doubted that Benfica would beat Dynamo Kyiv. They have now confidently won the first half by scoring three goals. We can say that the match has already been won. But I liked the game between Crvena Zvezda and Maccabi Haifa the most. Especially when Crvena's goalkeeper kicked a penalty and immediately missed a distant goal. Looking forward to the second half.
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August 23, 2022, 08:39:59 PM
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Probably no one doubted that Benfica would beat Dynamo Kyiv. They have now confidently won the first half by scoring three goals. We can say that the match has already been won.
The two goals difference in the first leg made the mission hard and it becomes impossible with every additional goal scored by Benfica now. 5-0 on aggregate..
Zvezda is leading with 2 goals so 4-4 on aggregate vs Haifa. Extra time or even penalties tho.

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