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November 01, 2022, 11:44:56 PM
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With the struggling form of Liverpool FC there's no chance of them winning Napoli in the scores required for them to top the group tonight. Cause the current form of Napoli in that group is one next to known and am pretty convince that Victor O. will definitely lead Napoli to humiliating Liverpool at antfield tonight.

In other words, Liverpool can't top Napoli!!!
I Sort of anticipated the kind of result you were projecting where Napoli would emerge victorious, looking at how in form they are and how Liverpool have been playing badly for some time now.
Seeing them beating Napoli by 2 goals to nothing is surprising.

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What makes Napoli top Liverpool is because of their head-to-head match against each other. Napoli is with 15points while Liverpool has the same. Napoli's unbeaten start of the season is over by Liverpool. Liverpool won against Napoli with 2 goals (2-0). The first and second goals were scored in a few minutes to end the second half by Salah(85mins) and Nunez(90+8).
Of you mean heading to head like Liverpool haven't lost there Napoli fixture, it's understandable otherwise, its just goal difference as am sure you already know. Besides, they've both lost but Napoli had been on a goal scoring trend on most of there fixtures, including league games.

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November 01, 2022, 11:47:58 PM
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Saw only last minutes of Marseille - Spurs game and I managed to catch that late drama. Goal on 95th minute and win let Spurs to take 1st place in group and avoid potentially stronger opponent in round of 16. Marseille ends in last place, but it was such equal group.

Goddess of luck sided with Spurs, in the last minute they made the goal hurt the opponent for sure, Marseille played well from the first half to the second half, still playing consistently in the last 80 minutes, unfortunately the catastrophe arrived which made the goal happen, despite possession  Marseille's ball is ahead of Spurs, 64% - 36% have put up a stunning resistance in last night's game.

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November 01, 2022, 11:52:08 PM
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Tottenham came has a shocker and reclaimed back the top of the group D table.
Tottenham have been a lucky team the past few weeks. Coupled with their injury challenges and lack of players and options in the bench, the coach Conte and the team has been been saved a lot from their last minute winner for games they were just expecting a point from or no point at all. They cannot continue to depend on this strategy of chasing after games, because it will not work all the time, if the really intend to be winners of the champions League or even the premier League, they need to work on scoring and defending their goals instead of chasing after games and then being lucky to win, luck doesn't happen everyday.

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November 02, 2022, 12:47:29 AM
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If anyone watch the game between Liverpool and Napoli, you would see that the reds are still active in their games. Jurgen Klopp beats Luciano Spalleti in the second leg of the group game, Although the Parthenopeans gave in their best in the both halves but their frontlines were tied down by Liverpool hefty defenders. Ibrahima Konatè and Virgil Van Dijk hide Osimhen and Khvicha Kvaratskhelia in the game as they were not giving goal scoring opportunities. Politano tried but his best wasn't good enough, liverpool played a defensive and experience game with the visitors and been the first team to win them this season is really a terrific record to break.

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November 02, 2022, 01:48:38 AM
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Tottenham came has a shocker and reclaimed back the top of the group D table.
Tottenham have been a lucky team the past few weeks. Coupled with their injury challenges and lack of players and options in the bench, the coach Conte and the team has been been saved a lot from their last minute winner for games they were just expecting a point from or no point at all. They cannot continue to depend on this strategy of chasing after games, because it will not work all the time, if the really intend to be winners of the champions League or even the premier League, they need to work on scoring and defending their goals instead of chasing after games and then being lucky to win, luck doesn't happen everyday.

The past two game's now for Tottenham are now win through struggling during late winner's, Bentacuur over the weekend and now Hojdberg with the late winner again,  with the view of how things went with Liverpool, with Konate back to pair with Virgil how will Kane be on the score sheet with that solid defending. Tottenham played like the united Jose Mourinho managed last, always struggling with late winner's
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November 02, 2022, 08:13:50 AM
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Tottenham came has a shocker and reclaimed back the top of the group D table.
Tottenham have been a lucky team the past few weeks. Coupled with their injury challenges and lack of players and options in the bench, the coach Conte and the team has been been saved a lot from their last minute winner for games they were just expecting a point from or no point at all. They cannot continue to depend on this strategy of chasing after games, because it will not work all the time, if the really intend to be winners of the champions League or even the premier League, they need to work on scoring and defending their goals instead of chasing after games and then being lucky to win, luck doesn't happen everyday.

The past two game's now for Tottenham are now win through struggling during late winner's, Bentacuur over the weekend and now Hojdberg with the late winner again,  with the view of how things went with Liverpool, with Konate back to pair with Virgil how will Kane be on the score sheet with that solid defending. Tottenham played like the united Jose Mourinho managed last, always struggling with late winner's
Is very annoying thing when Tottenham will be waiting for a opponents they are better than,or have good player's than to fall in their counter attack plans, against Bournemouth at the weekend at the vitality stadium Tottenham plays awfully waiting and sustaining pressure waiting to catch them In counter attack and they went 2 goals down for that as punishment, same thing happened against Marseille in France.how long will conte keep doing this.

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November 02, 2022, 08:22:00 AM
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Even though Barcelona won their match against Viktoria Plzen, they still had to say goodbye to the Champions League and welcome to the Europa League. This season is said to be quite difficult for Barcelona, which has exhausted many changes to the squad with the purchase of players and has been suppressed by a deteriorating economy, but in fact, the goddess of fortune has not been able to show confidence in this club to remain in the prestigious league.

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November 02, 2022, 08:37:50 AM
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It's fantastic that Liverpool won because yesterday night's game was challenging. However, Liverpool was able to win. Liverpool performs better against larger opponents; I predict they will beat Tottenham Hotspur on Sunday and possibly Bayern Munich in the knockout round. Liverpool's self-assurance has returned, and I hope they keep it. The players' confidence and morale weren't great after losing three straight matches in the EPl, but this victory will greatly help to lift the Liverpool team's spirits.
The majority of UEFA champions struggle in their domestic competitions, but Liverpool must maintain its strength and get some regular victories in both the EPL and UEFA.
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November 02, 2022, 08:48:40 AM
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13 goals against 33 goals...  It's really unbelievable. Barcelona are just pyschologically weak against Bayern Munich. No matter they have Messi or not, they are still staying weak against Bayern Munich. Xavi also couldn't create a solution in both games this season.

Yes. This raises the biggest question for us as spectators and even Barcelona fans. It seems that Barcelona is so difficult to beat Bayern Munich. Maybe at this time Barcelona lacked reliable players, but when Messi, Arturo Vidal and Luis Suarez were also unable to beat Bayern. While the Bayern team was strengthened by Thomas Müller, Ivan Perišić, and Robert Lewandowski. In fact, when Robert is now strengthening Barcelona, it does not make Barcelona turn things around.

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November 02, 2022, 09:51:34 AM
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Even though Barcelona won their match against Viktoria Plzen, they still had to say goodbye to the Champions League and welcome to the Europa League. This season is said to be quite difficult for Barcelona, which has exhausted many changes to the squad with the purchase of players and has been suppressed by a deteriorating economy, but in fact, the goddess of fortune has not been able to show confidence in this club to remain in the prestigious league.
This is like repeating last season's failure and again having to settle for competing in the Europa League, but can they do better this time in the Europa League? get to the final

Liverpool must maintain its strength and get some regular victories in both the EPL and UEFA.
Actually seeing Liverpool win the game at Anfield is normal but on sunday's league defeat cast doubts on their ability to beat Napoli, but actually any result last night doesn't change anything that they are already go to the round of 16.

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The match between Real Madrid and Celtic will start today. We all know that Real Madrid plays a very good game. But this match does not seem to be a very tough fight. We know that Celtic play a bad game in almost every match. In this match, Real  We all know that Madrid will play a good game. But at the end of the game we will see the correct result and hope Real Madrid will win this match.
Yes, Real Madrid will beat Celtic 2-0 in this match, because Celtic players cannot withstand mighty Real Madrid who defeated many strong teams in their last matches in this UEFA champions league competition, and they are still in a good condition to win this match. I guess,  Real Madrid players will surely showcase their new skills in this match by making all the position strong for Celtic players not to achieve any goal through out the match.

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Atletico kicked out from Champions league last week and now they got eliminated from Europa league playoffs. But still, I don't think it's likely that Simeone will be sacked for such fiasco. While Brugge after draw with Bayer didn't managed to keep 1st place.
Rangers is another pathetic team - 0 points, 2 goals scored, 22 conceded. Together with terrible Celtic performance it summarize level of Scottish football very well. Ajax didn't looked well in Champions league, but I think they can make some noise in Europa league.
Saw only last minutes of Marseille - Spurs game and I managed to catch that late drama. Goal on 95th minute and win let Spurs to take 1st place in group and avoid potentially stronger opponent in round of 16. Marseille ends in last place, but it was such equal group.

It would be nice if Simeone himself thought to resign. Didn't those thoughts cross his mind? He has been coaching Atletico for 11 years. Yes, he had great victories, but damn it, first of all, is he really not interested in new challenges? Secondly, Atlético has been degrading for quite some time. Zero new ideas, zero development (although I may be biased, but from the outside it looks like this). I think it's high time to change something here.
Disagree about Scottish football - they are obviously weak compared to the top leagues, but not every weak country can boast two clubs in the Champions League.

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Today Uefa champions league games are work-overs. A lot of teams playing tonight have already qualified and knows their stand in the next round. Ac Milan Vs Salzburg, Shakhtar Vs Leipzig are the only spot deciding games. PSG and Benfica have already qualified but they’ll want to win their games so one of them sits top of the table. I feel Juventus will trouble PSG even though they have nothing to gain. But I see PSG winning that game to maintain their position at the top.
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Juventus have a really tough job to do tonight. Their ticket to the Europa League is still not secured as they have the same points with Maccabi Haifa. Their being eliminated completely from European tournaments is likely I think. They might share the same fate with Atletico Madrid.

I don't think Maccabi Haifa can defeat Benfica above all else. Because it is still not finished for Benfica. They still have the chance to take the lead from PSG. Hence I expect Benfica to get at least one point here but their win is more likely than a draw in my opinion. However Juventus shouldn't leave their job to chance anyway. Their form in the Serie A lately is quite decent. But they have shown a really bad performance in the Champions League so far. Allegri is already criticised a lot with the look of the team now. If he doesn't even qualify for the Europa League it would be even worse for him. I hope to see their best effort here and maybe they can somehow get one point depending on their offensive performance.

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November 02, 2022, 07:28:04 PM
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Even though Barcelona won their match against Viktoria Plzen, they still had to say goodbye to the Champions League and welcome to the Europa League. This season is said to be quite difficult for Barcelona, which has exhausted many changes to the squad with the purchase of players and has been suppressed by a deteriorating economy, but in fact, the goddess of fortune has not been able to show confidence in this club to remain in the prestigious league.
This is like repeating last season's failure and again having to settle for competing in the Europa League, but can they do better this time in the Europa League? get to the final
Europa, or for that matter neither champions league nor even conference league, is not something that is straight forward like "win games and get the cup" because even best teams could end up losing. It could change all within span of few minutes, remember last year’s Madrid vs City game? On 86th minute Grealish missed a chance to score by inches, in the next 5 minutes or so Real came back from behind and won.

That’s the type of thing that you need to be careful about in these competitions and even the biggest teams could lose games within just a few minutes. I am guessing that Barcelona will try their best, and maybe they will win the cup, but it will not be that easy just because they are better than everyone else.

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November 02, 2022, 07:35:04 PM
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If that game would be very important, I'd expect that PSG will simply destroy Juventus. Now I think that they simply will win. Though, it's still fight for 1st place in group, Benfica will face Haifa. I'm not really sure who will finish higher if PSG and Benfica will have same points because both games between these teams ended 1:1.
Waiting for Milan win. Remaining games today is meaningless. City - Sevilla probably won't be very exciting, City is without Haaland and their squad isn't fully main.

It would be nice if Simeone himself thought to resign. Didn't those thoughts cross his mind? He has been coaching Atletico for 11 years. Yes, he had great victories, but damn it, first of all, is he really not interested in new challenges? Secondly, Atlético has been degrading for quite some time. Zero new ideas, zero development (although I may be biased, but from the outside it looks like this). I think it's high time to change something here.
Disagree about Scottish football - they are obviously weak compared to the top leagues, but not every weak country can boast two clubs in the Champions League.
Simeone resign himself? Considering how much money he is getting in Madrid, I think it's very unlikely to happen, he would be iditiot if he would do that.
Well, obviously both Scottish clubs were beyond champions league level this season. IIRC, they have two clubs in Champions league after very long break. Celtic qualified as champions, while Rangers unexpected eliminated PSV. But in general, level of their league is far from what they had in best times.

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Simeone actually thought of leaving his job last season. Because they had really difficult times during the season in the La Liga. Their Champions League performance was also not very bright as they barely qualified for next stage thanks to their winning their last group match. Anyway after this horrible run in the Champions League maybe he is reconsidering it. The biggest achievement they can get in this season is to finish the La Liga at the 3rd position.

It would actually be like a retirement for Simeone if he leaves Atletico Madrid.  Grin  Because he has had more than 10 years here as you mentioned. And I can't think of an alternative strong team for him to manage in case he quits his job.

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It would actually be like a retirement for Simeone if he leaves Atletico Madrid.  Grin  Because he has had more than 10 years here as you mentioned. And I can't think of an alternative strong team for him to manage in case he quits his job.
One can say, Simeone is actually the face of Atletico Madrid and his all black uniform, lol...

Juventus at the moment is putting up such a good fight against PSG. From the way its looking, they could get such a good result from this match if they could be more accurate on there chances. The chances are actually coming, they are frequent in creating them but not so much in its conversion.

You can imagine how Fabio Miretti missed a chance that could be equated with a penalty. Like, it was just himself and the goalkeeper and somehow, he was so dull to had let Marquinhos run into the rescue. Its a draw and the game is still open for both sides. Let's see what happens in the second half.



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November 03, 2022, 12:07:20 PM
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Champions league is main for tough team unlike average teams that didnthwur best to qualify for the round of 16. Any team that makes it to the round of 16 is consider a big club and their formation tight, ready to matchup fights for the title. Real madrid remain my favorite to win the league this season because their form this season is incredible with winning last night game 5-1. The los blancos are not taking chances when it comes to games in UEFEA.

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November 03, 2022, 01:24:40 PM
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Champions league is main for tough team unlike average teams that didnthwur best to qualify for the round of 16. Any team that makes it to the round of 16 is consider a big club and their formation tight, ready to matchup fights for the title. Real madrid remain my favorite to win the league this season because their form this season is incredible with winning last night game 5-1. The los blancos are not taking chances when it comes to games in UEFEA.

The last 16 is now in the draw and I should have wanted to see a match between Real Madrid and an equal club like PSG, Bayern Munich or maybe Man City. The results of the draw which will take place on November 7, 2022, make the clubs have to be prepared to face quite a complicated possibility. In this phase, I expect something more challenging for a giant club.

Group Champion:
Napoli (Group A)
FC Porto (Group B)
Bayern Munich (Group C)
Frankfurt (Group D)
Chelsea (Group E)
Real Madrid (Group F)
Manchester City (Group G)
Benfica (Group H)


Runner-up:
Liverpool (Grup A)
Club Brugge (Grup B)
Inter Milan (Grup C)
Tottenham (Grup D)
AC Milan (Grup E)
Leipzig (Grup F)
Borussia Dortmund (Grup G)
PSG (Grup H).

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