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July 10, 2022, 11:58:24 PM
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Surely this will have an impact to the casino especially if this came out on media.

Why it will give an impact on the casino if that said person will his take life? It's a casino and anyone knows that there's gambling there, obviously.

What do you guys think of casinos? A rehabilitation program for gamblers? A marketplace? A shopping mall?

Before you stepped-in into a casino, you should know your responsibility. Casinos are not forcing anyone to gamble and they have gambling-responsibility terms.
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July 11, 2022, 01:03:53 AM
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If you were the casino manager would you fire the casino worker for interfering with your business or would you ban the gambler from visiting the casino?
I'd just leave him alone and do his thing even though it looks bad to stop customers from playing at their casino it's also for the better since the worker is only concerned for his uncle.

Strange that he always lose. Never seen such a guy that has a terrible luck.
It's somewhat normal for gamblers to have bad luck but there could be a couple of factors that make him lose most of the time. I've seen a similar user with bad luck and in his case, he lacks self-control as he doesn't stop until he reaches a certain amount or recovers his previous losses.

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July 11, 2022, 11:07:20 PM
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Strange that he always lose. Never seen such a guy that has a terrible luck. Maybe winning in gambling is not for him? And the reason why he keeps on gambling is maybe not because of the profit this time but because he only want to have fun.

I'm sure there's a win in between. Not all have terrible luck but the timing to stop is not just executed properly. Since that person might be aiming for more profits, even though luck is always there and giving him chance to win, he still continues to play and the worst thing happened. The same cycle will happen again over and over again the next day and so.

As always, there's a thing in the gambler's mindset about why should we stop if we are lucky never realizing that it's now the start of the trap as they will just continue to bet. I admit, even for me, it's really hard to stop when we feel lucky and it's obvious that it's there while we play.

Just a while ago, I'm playing in a fiat casino with a capital of $20, spare funds on my fiat wallet app that is popular here. I managed to get winnings up to $300 for just a short time of playing because of that big multipliers. Since I'm feeling lucky and my capital is small, I decided to play more but someone got hit on my head that I need to take a break after experiencing no winnings in about, maybe 30-40 spins that I never experienced playing at crypto-slot games. I end up taking $200 at the end lol. Just imagine if the amount involved is decent.

Really hard to stop when we feel lucky.

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July 11, 2022, 11:16:55 PM
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Surely this will have an impact to the casino especially if this came out on media.

Why it will give an impact on the casino if that said person will his take life? It's a casino and anyone knows that there's gambling there, obviously.

What do you guys think of casinos? A rehabilitation program for gamblers? A marketplace? A shopping mall?

Before you stepped-in into a casino, you should know your responsibility. Casinos are not forcing anyone to gamble and they have gambling-responsibility terms.
They wont really be having any issues if ever a person would mess up their lives just because of gambling.Its out of their responsibility and its true that they havent been forced to play in the first place which means
that they wont really be responsible but if one of the workers do sees out one of his relatives on getting addicted and spending up too much and having that concern which is normal then its not bad to make
out some silent approach into the person and not into the form of yelling because it would really be affecting overall reputation which people around could see such public scene.
Its not good for the business but that worker does deserve second chance and should be warned out on what he had done.

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July 11, 2022, 11:31:30 PM
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Surely this will have an impact to the casino especially if this came out on media.

Why it will give an impact on the casino if that said person will his take life? It's a casino and anyone knows that there's gambling there, obviously.

What do you guys think of casinos? A rehabilitation program for gamblers? A marketplace? A shopping mall?

Before you stepped-in into a casino, you should know your responsibility. Casinos are not forcing anyone to gamble and they have gambling-responsibility terms.
They wont really be having any issues if ever a person would mess up their lives just because of gambling.Its out of their responsibility and its true that they havent been forced to play in the first place which means
that they wont really be responsible but if one of the workers do sees out one of his relatives on getting addicted and spending up too much and having that concern which is normal then its not bad to make
out some silent approach into the person and not into the form of yelling because it would really be affecting overall reputation which people around could see such public scene.
Its not good for the business but that worker does deserve second chance and should be warned out on what he had done.

About what happened between the employee and his relative that's out of the discussion already involving the casino's reputation and status as that can be settled in a proper way. But like I said, if ever something wrong with that person, casinos are out of it.

Casinos are not there to force anyone and they shouldn't blame what will happen to that person.

I appreciate what the nephew doing but he can stop his relative in a much more responsible way rather than shouting at the business main area.
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July 12, 2022, 02:48:56 PM
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True, there was a more ethical way the employee could have done it, a more polite way, a way that didn't attract a lot of attention and create inconvenience to everyone in the casino. the employee has made a noise and it is clear the employee has violated the rules of the gambling house this cannot be justified even though the man is actually his uncle.  if we read and study the op story this case is like a double edged sword, if someone were to be a casino manager which choice to make, fire or

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July 12, 2022, 05:40:41 PM
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Surely this will have an impact to the casino especially if this came out on media.
Why it will give an impact on the casino if that said person will his take life? It's a casino and anyone knows that there's gambling there, obviously.

What do you guys think of casinos? A rehabilitation program for gamblers? A marketplace? A shopping mall?

Before you stepped-in into a casino, you should know your responsibility. Casinos are not forcing anyone to gamble and they have gambling-responsibility terms.
But before that, why will this came out on media? Even if someone reported this, this will not be taken seriously because they also know that it was the fault of those who gamble and not the casino unless maybe if the casino is operating illegally, then it will also be taken down.

On the story, no, the guy didn't take his life but there was a problem with his family. It seems the guy is not responsible enough to care for his family when they needed them the most especially now that her wife has her newborn baby. Casino's has their own terms, in terms of being a responsible gambler but it was often being ignored by the gamblers.

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July 12, 2022, 07:39:14 PM
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Well! I had had days without seeing a story where the loser or the compulsive gambler did not appear. Smiley

Sometimes the rules come before the moral judgment or the judgment of our actions, it's that simple, a manager does not make decisions based on his emotions (at least not totally), it is based on rules govern him. So, if the employee violated any rule, the sanction proceeds, the sanctions can be temporary suspension, permanent suspension, etc.

On the other hand, there are laws where casinos must prohibit not because of them as companies, but by law, if they know or suspect gambling players from entering their facilities, someone can be a loser but not necessarily a compulsive gambler, at least with a diagnosis dictated by a specialist.


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July 12, 2022, 07:44:19 PM
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True, there was a more ethical way the employee could have done it, a more polite way, a way that didn't attract a lot of attention and create inconvenience to everyone in the casino. the employee has made a noise and it is clear the employee has violated the rules of the gambling house this cannot be justified even though the man is actually his uncle.  if we read and study the op story this case is like a double edged sword, if someone were to be a casino manager which choice to make, fire or
If that worker had been there on that casino for how many years then he might really be getting some consideration or warning but it totally depends on the manager on what decision he would made on such
incident.Its not really good to make up some noise specially on casino premises which do really draw lots of attention which would create out some scene which will not really be that appealing into other customers
which would neither affect or not but its not really that a good gesture to be done. Personal things should be settled on a private way and shouting inside the premises of the casino wont really be that a good idea.
Settle things on home or say or advise if ever you do see that one of your relatives or loved ones is really getting addicted with casino games.

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July 13, 2022, 07:29:36 PM
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Surely this will have an impact to the casino especially if this came out on media.

Why it will give an impact on the casino if that said person will his take life? It's a casino and anyone knows that there's gambling there, obviously.

What do you guys think of casinos? A rehabilitation program for gamblers? A marketplace? A shopping mall?

Before you stepped-in into a casino, you should know your responsibility. Casinos are not forcing anyone to gamble and they have gambling-responsibility terms.
They wont really be having any issues if ever a person would mess up their lives just because of gambling.Its out of their responsibility and its true that they havent been forced to play in the first place which means
that they wont really be responsible but if one of the workers do sees out one of his relatives on getting addicted and spending up too much and having that concern which is normal then its not bad to make
out some silent approach into the person and not into the form of yelling because it would really be affecting overall reputation which people around could see such public scene.
Its not good for the business but that worker does deserve second chance and should be warned out on what he had done.

About what happened between the employee and his relative that's out of the discussion already involving the casino's reputation and status as that can be settled in a proper way. But like I said, if ever something wrong with that person, casinos are out of it.

Casinos are not there to force anyone and they shouldn't blame what will happen to that person.

I appreciate what the nephew doing but he can stop his relative in a much more responsible way rather than shouting at the business main area.

The employee could've decline his relative to seat and play at the casino in a much more polite manner so that the situation won't escalate into shouting or else ask the management that he would really appreciate if the establishment will ban him for the meantime because his wife needed him more than ever as his wife recently delivered twins. I'm sure the management would consider the employee's request.

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About what happened between the employee and his relative that's out of the discussion already involving the casino's reputation and status as that can be settled in a proper way. But like I said, if ever something wrong with that person, casinos are out of it.

Ever heard of the term Responsible Gambling?  It is a social responsibility directed to the gambling industry and operators meaning, Casino has the responsibility to stop the person from being addicted or to cause harm to itself.

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Responsible gambling is the set of social responsibility initiatives by the gambling industry – including governments and gaming control boards, operators (such as casinos), and vendors – to ensure the integrity and fairness of their operations and to promote awareness of harms associated with gambling, such as gambling addiction.

Casinos are not there to force anyone and they shouldn't blame what will happen to that person.

I appreciate what the nephew doing but he can stop his relative in a much more responsible way rather than shouting at the business main area.

Definitly casino shouldn't be blamed but they have social obligation to stop the person if they feel that it is getting addicted to some extent.

An example of Responsible Gambling Code being implemented
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Code of Practice
Pursuant to Presidential Decree No. 1869 as amended by Republic Act No. 9487, PAGCOR operates, grants authority to operate and regulates gaming establishments in the Philippines.  In doing so, it promotes delivery of gaming services in a responsible manner. This Code of Practice sets out rules and guidelines on Responsible Gaming for adoption by all PAGCOR-operated and licensed entities in authorized gaming establishments, in order to minimize potential harm to the individual players and the community, to prevent gambling addiction and to prohibit underage gambling
source: https://www.pagcor.ph/regulatory/cop.php

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July 13, 2022, 10:58:15 PM
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Surely this will have an impact to the casino especially if this came out on media.

Why it will give an impact on the casino if that said person will his take life? It's a casino and anyone knows that there's gambling there, obviously.

What do you guys think of casinos? A rehabilitation program for gamblers? A marketplace? A shopping mall?

Before you stepped-in into a casino, you should know your responsibility. Casinos are not forcing anyone to gamble and they have gambling-responsibility terms.
They wont really be having any issues if ever a person would mess up their lives just because of gambling.Its out of their responsibility and its true that they havent been forced to play in the first place which means
that they wont really be responsible but if one of the workers do sees out one of his relatives on getting addicted and spending up too much and having that concern which is normal then its not bad to make
out some silent approach into the person and not into the form of yelling because it would really be affecting overall reputation which people around could see such public scene.
Its not good for the business but that worker does deserve second chance and should be warned out on what he had done.

About what happened between the employee and his relative that's out of the discussion already involving the casino's reputation and status as that can be settled in a proper way. But like I said, if ever something wrong with that person, casinos are out of it.

Casinos are not there to force anyone and they shouldn't blame what will happen to that person.

I appreciate what the nephew doing but he can stop his relative in a much more responsible way rather than shouting at the business main area.

The employee could've decline his relative to seat and play at the casino in a much more polite manner so that the situation won't escalate into shouting or else ask the management that he would really appreciate if the establishment will ban him for the meantime because his wife needed him more than ever as his wife recently delivered twins. I'm sure the management would consider the employee's request.
He should have done that on the time his relative goes in into the casino and telling and minding him to stop but since he hasnt been banned by the place itself then there's no way you could stop him on playing

and end up on having no choice but to let him on what he do loves to do but of course in the means of being too much in concern then you would really be having that kind of emotional surge which i can really
say that there are times which these things cant really be stopped even if you are aware on what are the consequences that you might able to experience if things goes wrong.

Approach on a relax and calm manner and dont make any scene that would really be putting yourself or job into risk.

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July 14, 2022, 05:28:06 AM
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I recently visited a land-based casino after a long time to gamble, have some drinks and enjoy live music with a couple of my good buddies. Not long after we settled in, we heard one of the casino workers yelling at one of the gamblers. He said, "Sir please you have to leave now. You come here every day and you keep losing. Please be considerate of your wife and your newborn babies." The backstory is that this particular man is a very popular gambler at the casino not because of his winnings but because he keeps losing. Despite his losses, he would return to the casino the next day to gamble. From the story, his wife had just been delivered with twins. I would later find out that the casino worker is his nephew.

If you were the casino manager would you fire the casino worker for interfering with your business or would you ban the gambler from visiting the casino?

According to my understanding of OP's story, the gambler's nephew shouted at him as an employee where the gambler often goes to casinos despite the fact that every time he goes, he always loses at gambling. Maybe the casinos employee did that because instead of the money to be lost on gambling, the nephew would have preferred what he said without shouting, because that is showing disrespect to gamblers who go to casinos, and the assign manager for sure will get angry and he will talk to his subordinates and give a warning.


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True, there was a more ethical way the employee could have done it, a more polite way, a way that didn't attract a lot of attention and create inconvenience to everyone in the casino. the employee has made a noise and it is clear the employee has violated the rules of the gambling house this cannot be justified even though the man is actually his uncle.  if we read and study the op story this case is like a double edged sword, if someone were to be a casino manager which choice to make, fire or

Yes, the employee could've avoided the situation to escalate if he didn't done that. I know that the employee just wanted to help the wife of his uncle because an attention is much needed after the wife had successfully delivered twin babies, but his actions were really wrong and now the management will be forced to take some action so that the clients will be relieved about the incident.

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July 21, 2022, 01:59:46 AM
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If the owner doesn't really have a sense of sympathy and he's all in for the money and profit, he will fire the employee that has stopped one of his customers from gambling because of the situation.
But if the owner has compassion and understanding, that won't be a big deal to him. This happens in some casinos too when they see someone can't handle the addiction, they're banning them from entering the premises.

I don't think it is a matter of sympathy.  It is a matter of professionalism but of course, the owner can always give a warning to the employee, that would probably settle it, and possibly the employee won't do that thing again.  What happens, happens, that the employee with his act of rudeness should accept whatever the Casino owner decided while on the other hand if it was the first offense of the employee then the owner can just give the employee a warning.
Owner or the person in charge can follow what he thinks is right. He can have sympathy and stop that customer per se if he's certainly cannot stop himself.
If they think that it's rudeness, on the case and example of OP is different. They're relatives and that's why he has to stop what the customer has been doing because of real world problems and obligations he has to face. That's where the sympathy goes and that's why if there's really no concern on them, whether it's the owner or just an employee, I'm sure that it's understandable whatever they choose to decide.
Currently things when it comes to work with money is very delicate, if it is a fairly radical employer, it fires you without further ado, but if you want to have workers, it is known that they need to have training, for that reason I do not think that because of that mistake they have to fire him, I am sure that the employee learned his lesson, and this is something that will serve as experience, we cannot be so radical, besides, in casinos there will always be opportunities to win for the house, which is based on all the time, the advantage will always be there, that's why every worker in a physical casino needs training, at least about 3 days.

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July 21, 2022, 03:15:04 AM
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I recently visited a land-based casino after a long time to gamble, have some drinks and enjoy live music with a couple of my good buddies. Not long after we settled in, we heard one of the casino workers yelling at one of the gamblers. He said, "Sir please you have to leave now. You come here every day and you keep losing. Please be considerate of your wife and your newborn babies." The backstory is that this particular man is a very popular gambler at the casino not because of his winnings but because he keeps losing. Despite his losses, he would return to the casino the next day to gamble. From the story, his wife had just been delivered with twins. I would later find out that the casino worker is his nephew.

If you were the casino manager would you fire the casino worker for interfering with your business or would you ban the gambler from visiting the casino?
This is probably the one thing that I hate the most about land based casinos, you can get great energy from the people and have a lot of fun with people that you did not met before and even make new friends because of your shared hobby, however it is very heartbreaking to see people that are legitimately addicted to gambling and that they do nothing in order to solve their issues, personally I will not fire the worker and if it was possible I will ban the gambler from the casino, but I doubt it will have any effect on his addiction.

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July 21, 2022, 03:24:32 AM
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If you were the casino manager would you fire the casino worker for interfering with your business or would you ban the gambler from visiting the casino?

If I was the manager of the casino, I will not fire my worker but I'll tell him privately not to yell gambler like that. It can be done politely and privately so it will have a better situation for the whole casino. About the gambler, it depends on the policy of the casino. As I have no idea about the policy of the casino for such case, I cant say anything how to deal with the gambler but I think banning the gambler from visiting the casino wont help him as he can move to other casino. We do not even know about the actual financial status of the gambler. Even if he keeps losing everyday but it does not mean that it is a problem for the gambler.

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July 21, 2022, 03:34:18 AM
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I recently visited a land-based casino after a long time to gamble, have some drinks and enjoy live music with a couple of my good buddies. Not long after we settled in, we heard one of the casino workers yelling at one of the gamblers. He said, "Sir please you have to leave now. You come here every day and you keep losing. Please be considerate of your wife and your newborn babies." The backstory is that this particular man is a very popular gambler at the casino not because of his winnings but because he keeps losing. Despite his losses, he would return to the casino the next day to gamble. From the story, his wife had just been delivered with twins. I would later find out that the casino worker is his nephew.

If you were the casino manager would you fire the casino worker for interfering with your business or would you ban the gambler from visiting the casino?
This is a funny scene and I think if I am the owner of the casino, I could sack the so called employee for attempting to make me lose my customers just because he want the gambler to quit what he likes to do. this is a good advise to the gambler in line but bad for businesses like this one. Gambling is choice and we don't need to fire those who are into it or rather still take to them of there excess gambling activities. The gambler had been addicted to gambling that is why things looks like that.

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July 21, 2022, 05:10:54 AM
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I recently visited a land-based casino after a long time to gamble, have some drinks and enjoy live music with a couple of my good buddies. Not long after we settled in, we heard one of the casino workers yelling at one of the gamblers. He said, "Sir please you have to leave now. You come here every day and you keep losing. Please be considerate of your wife and your newborn babies." The backstory is that this particular man is a very popular gambler at the casino not because of his winnings but because he keeps losing. Despite his losses, he would return to the casino the next day to gamble. From the story, his wife had just been delivered with twins. I would later find out that the casino worker is his nephew.

If you were the casino manager would you fire the casino worker for interfering with your business or would you ban the gambler from visiting the casino?
This is a funny scene and I think if I am the owner of the casino, I could sack the so called employee for attempting to make me lose my customers just because he want the gambler to quit what he likes to do. this is a good advise to the gambler in line but bad for businesses like this one. Gambling is choice and we don't need to fire those who are into it or rather still take to them of there excess gambling activities. The gambler had been addicted to gambling that is why things looks like that.
It might sound funny but the employee has tried to warn his customers not to gamble too much considering he has a family and a newborn baby. At the very least, the employee had tried to warn him and if the gambler still didn't pay attention, it was up to the gambler. Or it could be, that it happened because that casino or all the casinos in the vicinity are under government surveillance to monitor gamblers who often lose so their owners and employees try to help gamblers who don't think about themselves and their families.

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July 21, 2022, 05:36:44 AM
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It's not good that the employee (Gambler's nephew) shouts like this in the casino.
He should have gone to his uncle's house and explained to him that he should stop gambling and think about his family. If he doesn't stop despite this, then it is on him. No one can force him as he will probably change the casino if he felt awkward when his nephew shouted at him.

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If it's the first time it's not an issue but if it happens again and again I'll kick them both out as they are disturbing other players.  Cheesy
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