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July 16, 2022, 04:29:33 PM
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Gambling will not be banned, even if all the governments of the world insist on doing so, gamblers will find all kinds of ways to keep gambling. If we look at the history of the players out there, there are those who are happy because of gambling, but there are also those who are suffering because of gambling.

I think regulating gambling is a good thing, but the government that feels the money from gambling taxes should provide rehabilitation centers for those who suffer from gambling (addicts).
The government can ban gambling, which has already happened in some countries for religious reasons. But those who are used to gambling will surely be able to return to gambling even in places unknown to the government.

Maybe only regulating gambling can be done by the government and making strict regulations and gamblers must be willing to be monitored by the government. This is for the good of the gamblers so that they do not cause other problems in the future because gambling can really make them addicted. But if some gamblers become addicted, the government should be able to find a solution and maybe providing a rehabilitation center is one way to help them.

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July 16, 2022, 04:56:54 PM
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Nope! Looking a macro point of view.
But there must be specific banned, companies that do not comply or individuals who deserve.

There is addiction at anything and really today there are as many as the people who spend and spend hours seeing streaming or social networks.

Stay positive, it is a stigma overcome that bets are as  worst. Nowadays there are young people who leave all their savings in the purchase of a smarthphone.

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July 16, 2022, 05:23:14 PM
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Gambling will not be banned, even if all the governments of the world insist on doing so, gamblers will find all kinds of ways to keep gambling. If we look at the history of the players out there, there are those who are happy because of gambling, but there are also those who are suffering because of gambling.

I think regulating gambling is a good thing, but the government that feels the money from gambling taxes should provide rehabilitation centers for those who suffer from gambling (addicts).
The government can ban gambling, which has already happened in some countries for religious reasons. But those who are used to gambling will surely be able to return to gambling even in places unknown to the government.

Maybe only regulating gambling can be done by the government and making strict regulations and gamblers must be willing to be monitored by the government. This is for the good of the gamblers so that they do not cause other problems in the future because gambling can really make them addicted. But if some gamblers become addicted, the government should be able to find a solution and maybe providing a rehabilitation center is one way to help them.

It seems to me that the question about the harm of gambling will remain open. There will always be those who consider them evil for various reasons and there will always be those who really enjoy gambling. Such people won't want to refuse gambling and in case of a total ban they'll find a way out, for example by meeting up on weekends in places out of reach of law-enforcement agencies. That's why I think a total ban on gambling won't solve anything, society should create tools to help people fight against gambling addiction.

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July 16, 2022, 05:28:39 PM
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Allow me to use this analogy: Just because alcohol is abused and intoxicated by some people, I haven't seen the call for its ban, why should gambling be banned? Besides, it is a financial instrument for some people, they have made a lot of fortune from it.
I'm not too familiar with casino games but I can wage my last card for my club when they have matches against their opponent and when they are playing against a weak opponent, I may even stake a bigger amount I can afford to lose, this why they called it "play for the entertainment of sport and for the fun." Anything you see on earth has a pro and cons and because people abuse it doesn't mean it should be totally stopped, after all, there use to be warning in most bet mediums and the risk associated with them, I don't see any valid reason why gambling should be ban.

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July 16, 2022, 06:13:22 PM
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Gambling will not be banned, even if all the governments of the world insist on doing so, gamblers will find all kinds of ways to keep gambling. If we look at the history of the players out there, there are those who are happy because of gambling, but there are also those who are suffering because of gambling.

I think regulating gambling is a good thing, but the government that feels the money from gambling taxes should provide rehabilitation centers for those who suffer from gambling (addicts).
The government can ban gambling, which has already happened in some countries for religious reasons. But those who are used to gambling will surely be able to return to gambling even in places unknown to the government.

Maybe only regulating gambling can be done by the government and making strict regulations and gamblers must be willing to be monitored by the government. This is for the good of the gamblers so that they do not cause other problems in the future because gambling can really make them addicted. But if some gamblers become addicted, the government should be able to find a solution and maybe providing a rehabilitation center is one way to help them.
I saw more countries start to open up and allow gambling. I think eventually most major countries will legalize gambling as banning it does nothing to discourage people from playing. Worst, they just lost a decent amount of tax on gambling and taxable income from gamblers. And you got it right, more regulation and laws in gambling so people can not gamble to bankruptcy and blame the govt or casino for it. Then cry about gambling is bad and needs to be banned.
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July 16, 2022, 06:43:58 PM
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Gambling will not be banned, even if all the governments of the world insist on doing so, gamblers will find all kinds of ways to keep gambling. If we look at the history of the players out there, there are those who are happy because of gambling, but there are also those who are suffering because of gambling.

I think regulating gambling is a good thing, but the government that feels the money from gambling taxes should provide rehabilitation centers for those who suffer from gambling (addicts).
The government can ban gambling, which has already happened in some countries for religious reasons. But those who are used to gambling will surely be able to return to gambling even in places unknown to the government.

Maybe only regulating gambling can be done by the government and making strict regulations and gamblers must be willing to be monitored by the government. This is for the good of the gamblers so that they do not cause other problems in the future because gambling can really make them addicted. But if some gamblers become addicted, the government should be able to find a solution and maybe providing a rehabilitation center is one way to help them.
I saw more countries start to open up and allow gambling. I think eventually most major countries will legalize gambling as banning it does nothing to discourage people from playing. Worst, they just lost a decent amount of tax on gambling and taxable income from gamblers. And you got it right, more regulation and laws in gambling so people can not gamble to bankruptcy and blame the govt or casino for it. Then cry about gambling is bad and needs to be banned.
People would surely find a way or path for them to gamble even gambling was totally ban or prohibited considering on how easy to play online without being caught but of course it would really be a risk to someone on doing so. Gambling is a form of entertainment and a business into its owners.You arent forced to play or go to the place which it isnt really just right for you to take the blame on why people getting addicted to it
and ending up on spending lots of money since its their will on doing so and the platform does give out the services that it do gives in terms of leisure. For taxation then its normal that it would really be giving
out big contribution in terms of economic aspects its whether the government would really be putting some emphasis or priority on it or would simply be minding their citizens addiction condition?

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July 16, 2022, 06:52:15 PM
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Gambling is something that has existed for a long time and will always exist for a long time. We should also not forget that there are already a number of countries where gambling is banned, so you are absolutely not allowed to gamble there. But what do you do if you want something that you don't like? Then you just want to do it even more and you start looking for alternatives. Online gambling with crypto is possible from all countries, I think and using a VPN easily solves all those bans. I think you should regulate it better under supervision, instead of banning it.

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July 16, 2022, 07:18:17 PM
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Gambling will not be banned, even if all the governments of the world insist on doing so, gamblers will find all kinds of ways to keep gambling. If we look at the history of the players out there, there are those who are happy because of gambling, but there are also those who are suffering because of gambling.

I think regulating gambling is a good thing, but the government that feels the money from gambling taxes should provide rehabilitation centers for those who suffer from gambling (addicts).
The government can ban gambling, which has already happened in some countries for religious reasons. But those who are used to gambling will surely be able to return to gambling even in places unknown to the government.

Maybe only regulating gambling can be done by the government and making strict regulations and gamblers must be willing to be monitored by the government. This is for the good of the gamblers so that they do not cause other problems in the future because gambling can really make them addicted. But if some gamblers become addicted, the government should be able to find a solution and maybe providing a rehabilitation center is one way to help them.
Government can ban gambling which has already been done on some countries however gambling cannot or rather will not be banned on all countries. Gambling has been one of the industries that provides a lot to the government and some might even rely on it.

Also, enforcing strict regulations especially monitoring gamblers with their gambling activity is not a concern that the government needs to look at. I mean, it's not the government decision whether or not the gamblers activity will cause a problem or not as various aspects will need to be look into. Gambling addiction is not a job for the government but rather it's for the gambler to get checked at a psychiatrist.


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July 16, 2022, 07:20:30 PM
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It seems to me that the question about the harm of gambling will remain open. There will always be those who consider them evil for various reasons and there will always be those who really enjoy gambling.

Anything excessive is harmful. Even beverages when taken in large quantities are harmful to humans.  But government cannot ban beverage production/processing companies.  Instead, they issue statements that remind its citizen to take beverages in moderation.  I believe the same rule should be applied to gambling.  It does not need banning but a proper regulation and strict implementation of responsible gambling codes.


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July 16, 2022, 08:36:18 PM
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No, if they banned gambling a lot of things should be banned too. there are things far worse than gambling.

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this alone would make any(at least almost any country) country think twice if they plan to ban gambling in their country. gambling is a huge money maker and a huge help for a lot of countries especially when the pandemic hits.

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July 16, 2022, 08:41:58 PM
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Some countries have their own understanding about gambling, they regulate it to closely monitor the possible fraud transactions and in many country, gambling profit can be a big help that’s why they can’t afford to ban gambling. There’s always a pros and cons, gambler know this one and if they think this one will not work for them, better not to try at all. Know that gambling is not a good source of money, its too risky for this reason.
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July 16, 2022, 08:49:15 PM
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Some countries have their own understanding about gambling, they regulate it to closely monitor the possible fraud transactions and in many country, gambling profit can be a big help that’s why they can’t afford to ban gambling. There’s always a pros and cons, gambler know this one and if they think this one will not work for them, better not to try at all. Know that gambling is not a good source of money, its too risky for this reason.
I don’g agree on banning Gambling and instead of doing its better if the government will increase the regulation standard to closely monitor casinos and of course to know if they are following the rules especially on not letting any minors into their platform. Gambling becomes a huge business, the tax here is high and this is very productive. Honestly, It’s not easy to monitor gambling since gambler will always find a way to gamble and avoid the regulations, so this should be the focus instead of banning this one, gambling changes a lot now and its getting more attention online.

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July 16, 2022, 09:17:30 PM
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Why ban it? Anything that seems risky and dangerous needs to banned? Lets ban knives and forks and even drinking anything besides water. In fact, lets ban everything.

Gambling is fun. To me, its just an activity to have fun. Its fun because its risky. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose but you need to always understand that no matter what happens, its not a career and its not a lifestyle. Of course there are people who take it too far and become addicted and irresponsible but just because a few such people exist does not mean everyone should have to sacrifice their own freedom just to protect those few.


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July 16, 2022, 11:58:16 PM
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Adding the social economic benefits of legal gambling weighs more than its cons.  According to this article[1]

Look at the listed socio-economic advantages and disadvantages of casinos



I always point out the economic benefits of gambling, I wouldn't waste that benefits just because of a few problem gamblers.  The advantage outweighs the disadvantage and the disadvantages listed can be minimized if not fixed.

Would you sacrifice 1000 employees, tax revenue, economic activity, and charity funds because of some irresponsible players?

Religious groups should stay away from deciding whether gambling should be banned or not, most religious leaders are hypocrites.  They don't make themselves responsible for any government development projects.  They are there only waiting to be served.  Like a vaccum sucking believers money in guise of religious donation.



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July 17, 2022, 07:59:06 PM
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Do you think that now people are unaware of the real risks of winning/losing?
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sometimes I happen to look at the "multibet" bets that other players make... a bit to find inspiration for mine bet (as you well know on Stake it is possible to follow the betting feed).
every time I am shocked by what people are able to play !
I doubt if they have well understood what is the risk / real winning capacity behind a bet with 15 events Roll Eyes

I get what you mean, I've seen a lot of weird bets too... but there's no way to be sure how weird they are. I know at least one reputable bettor on this forum who make multibets with a few hundred odds of winning. As far as I know, he does it for fun, but sometimes he wins. In addition, there are fans of making many small multibets on a set of events instead of one multibet for an "adequate" odds of winning.
Well,and in general, sometimes we see some sensations in the news when a bettor wins a hundred thousand by placing $10. Some trear to it as a lottery (where the odds are even more ridiculous compared to betting).

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The most weird thing in politics is that if politicians start to think "I am banning something out of your life and not allow you to do it, to protect you from yourself" that's stopping your freedom and taking away your liberty. Of course you stop people from burning down houses, killing each other, murdering people all because you are hurting someone else anyway.

But, you need to allow people to gamble, even USA which is the most liberal nation in the world that I know of, allows gambling in only certain places and not everywhere. This is why I believe that we should start having casinos all around the world, like literally common thing like a grocery store, because that's liberty.

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July 17, 2022, 11:19:40 PM
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I read an interesting debate about this topic during the time when I experienced heavy loss in online gambling.

This is the kind of topic that will never resolve in a debate even if its already established that gambling is for fun and entertainment and should not be treated as a way to make money, there will be people who will find it evil and should be ban even if they know that its impossible


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I’m trying to seek some reason online to justify my loss and give me acceptance for my loss that time. It didn’t help me but make me confused.  Grin  Anyway I will share the points of both side because it is the real life scenario.

You should not and you cannot you don't look elsewhere to justify your losses, it comes from within that is the only way to make peace with yourself you have to deal with your losses, on your terms alone.

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Gambling is a personal choice and it really doesn't hurt anyone but the gambler.  It's a simple choice to gamble or not too.  If you are addicted go seek help.  But if you ban it, it will live on illegally putting addicted gblers in far worse positions getting in debt.  No need for banning it honestly.

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July 17, 2022, 11:28:07 PM
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I read an interesting debate about this topic during the time when I experienced heavy loss in online gambling.

This is the kind of topic that will never resolve in a debate even if its already established that gambling is for fun and entertainment and should not be treated as a way to make money, there will be people who will find it evil and should be ban even if they know that its impossible

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I’m trying to seek some reason online to justify my loss and give me acceptance for my loss that time. It didn’t help me but make me confused.  Grin  Anyway I will share the points of both side because it is the real life scenario.

You should not and you cannot you don't look elsewhere to justify your losses, it comes from within that is the only way to make peace with yourself you have to deal with your losses, on your terms alone.

justifying your losses will just give you a headache, and will try to look for reasons just to make it right. accept the fact that you lost and look for ways how to move on. that's right, if you are at peace with yourself, you don't need to look for someone else's opinion or of that sort.
gambling will always be a part of humanity. so don't know if banning is really an option here. it is more on personal choice how you can stop the consequences of gambling.

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July 17, 2022, 11:51:10 PM
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Gambling is a personal choice and it really doesn't hurt anyone but the gambler.  It's a simple choice to gamble or not too.  If you are addicted go seek help.  But if you ban it, it will live on illegally putting addicted gamblers in far worse positions getting in debt.  No need for banning it honestly.
It is one's personal choice. Just because something is banned, it doesn't mean people are away from it. People always find a way to use it. This is the reality, and it is always good to have some rehabilitation program and centres availed in every country. Such things can be improved than making a ban over gambling.

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