[Discussion] Should Gambling be Banned?

[Zackgeno96]

Gambling is already not allowed in a number of countries, but how do you want to ban that completely and then also control it? I think that's a hopeless job to be honest. As a player, if you live in a country where gambling is prohibited, it is quite easy to play with Crypto and using a VPN on a gambling site that does not ask for a KYC and the ban is quite easy to get around. There are countries such as Spain where online gambling is not allowed but where you have many local shops where you can gamble. Also quite strange of course that it is allowed there and banned online.

[serjent05]

But KYC has its own pros and cons but when the subject is about hindering minors from doing these kind of activities, then KYC is somewhat useful but for adults, doing KYC will be a risky thing to do because every detail will be used in the illegal transactions or dark web if the site will be hacked (hopefully not). Personally, I also don't support banning online gambling but I think they could do more useful and safer regulation aside from that risky KYC.

read my post again, I am not saying that they should require KYC when registering(I understand the risk of KYC), I am saying, aside from regulating casinos they should also spread awareness regarding the dangers of gambling and teach people about being a responsible gambler since KYC isn't enough.

If someone is worried about some hacker selling his information on the darknet then he should start worrying now, since there are lots of government sites that were accessed by hackers retrieving their citizen DATA.  I don't mind the implementation of KYC which is for Casino protection and at the same time with the responsible gambling act, they need these data to access player information for possible aid if that person got addicted to gambling activity.  As stated I am pro-gambling and I hate when the religious sector cries out that gambling is bad but uses lottery or raffles to fund their religious activity.

[paxmao]

I see no reason to ban gambling in the strict sense, because it is something that we like and it is not harmful to anyone by itself. However, it is true that there are some people who may get addicted or have problems controlling themselves so not banning it does not mean not regulating it and nor not allowing for options for individuals to opt out or ask the gambling sites not to accept them. But as said, individually.

[darkangel11]

If we are talking about banning online casinos, then we should consider all risky things where a person could lose money... For example it could be stock or cryptocurrency exchanges, poker, dice, bookmakers, lotteries... All of these things have about the same effect on a person and are habit-forming. It seems to me that it can never be closed down because it brings in huge amounts of money... If the world were fair, they would have banned the sale of alcohol and cigarettes long ago...

We could go farther with this and ban every bad purchase a person can make. After all buying a very old and rusty car in hope of repairing and selling it for more is a gamble. Getting into a relationship is a gamble because she could cheat you and run with all your money. Lending money to people is a gamble, they can run away with it and never pay it back.

Life is a gamble. Banning gambling is pretty dumb if you ask me. If you ban gambling sites people will meet up and play cards or bet on football matches anyway.

[Japinat]

Let us first agree that gambling is a personal freedom that should not be prohibited for any reason within a legal framework, even if it is harmful in one way or another. Just like smoking and drinking alcohol, both are harmful, but the legislator has no right to pass laws prohibiting these practices because they simply fall under the issue of personal status. But there are two important points if the ban takes place, and they are firstly about preventing children from entering this field, which is an early age to enter into such a situation, and secondly, it is to reduce cases of addiction that lead to the death of individuals, just as it happens with legislation that prevents drug consumption and their trafficking.

If the government will take a huge step to ban gambling, they are also trying to get the local operating casinos out of business which could help the economy as the taxes are frankly big enough and also, that will mean that they are disabling the people to have its freedom and that will be a little personal. Just imagine if America or UK will suddenly ban all gambling activities, the economy will surely be affected because of that.
I'm also not looking forward to see gambling be banned but I am inclined to that the government could create heavy regulations and implementations to reduce the addiction and other related to it and to protect the minors from these activities.

[qwertyup23]

I see no reason to ban gambling in the strict sense, because it is something that we like and it is not harmful to anyone by itself. However, it is true that there are some people who may get addicted or have problems controlling themselves so not banning it does not mean not regulating it and nor not allowing for options for individuals to opt out or ask the gambling sites not to accept them. But as said, individually.

I think the better approach is that instead of complete prohibition, strict regulations must be implemented in order to protect gamblers, who are addicted, in attempting to delve into such activity. There must be at least some sort of balance and middle ground on preventing gamblers from gambling too much and protecting the financial freedom and rights of gambling business owners from yielding profit.

Though this may be easier said than done, this is the only compromise that the government must take if they really want to help gamblers overcome their addiction.

[X-ray]

There's no need to ban gambling, the risk will be happened with gamblers. The gamblers itself who have decided whether they wanna take the risk by gambling their money or not. If someone agreed with it and he knows about the risk. Im sure that if any gamblers know about what they will got and what they will lost in gambling. The regulation is a bit better instead of banning it. There are so many pros and cons in gambling but i do believe you know that if that was coming from the various people.
How good and bad gambling is actually rely with the gamblers itself.

[n0ne]

It might look funny, but it striked in my mind. Why don't we have a gambling insurance. This means a premium to be spend every month. Through this one can be availed with two claims per year. Here the user needs to list the sites he use. When the person goes for claim, the data regarding the loss will be collected by the insurance company and provides with the insurance amount. Many won't like this, because of the privacy issues.

[DoublerHunter]

It might look funny, but it striked in my mind. Why don't we have a gambling insurance. This means a premium to be spend every month. Through this one can be availed with two claims per year. Here the user needs to list the sites he use. When the person goes for claim, the data regarding the loss will be collected by the insurance company and provides with the insurance amount. Many won't like this, because of the privacy issues.

^ Because probably in my opinion gambling is not all related to money/finance. It supposedly gambling for fun that only gambling an amount of money that you can afford to lose. Why do you continue to gamble if you don't have money if your money cannot afford to lose?
That sounds really fun and I think no one will have this gambling insurance company service, however, you can take a loan if you really want to gamble against your urge but that is a different story here.
To OP, gambling should not ban because gambling is not a source of income and not a threat of financial if you know how to control yourself, gambling is for fun nothing else.

[Rengga Jati]

Well, it depends on in which country you live. I am living in a country in which Gambling is prohibited and banned. So, it has been usual for me to see this regulation. But, we can still do online gambling moreover right now, there are many crypto online gambling that can make ease us to gamble.
Btw, related to the gambling ban because of the risks of loss, well, these are the pros and cons of gambling that will never be separated. gambling whenever and wherever will have both, between the loss and winning. If someone is addicted to gambling, this means that he may not be able to control and manage his funds and also the risks. This is more to personal conditions although there are many gamblers who are addicted. That is why before gambling, we must make sure that we do it for a certain purpose, using free money, independent of finances, and not being stress

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

I think the better approach is that instead of complete prohibition, strict regulations must be implemented in order to protect gamblers, who are addicted,

I guess the reason behind the bans is because it's hard to regulate the industry in preventing addicts from taking advantage of the gambling. How do you know a gambler is an addict when someone can basically sit at the comfort of there house nowadays to play bets online without having to go to physical casino as in the old days. A caring government knows that gambling does no good to the economy of their state.

It's unhealthy when your citizens are addicts, hardly will that country be productive and be moving forward so to prevent that from been the norm, countries are resulting in banning the activity as that can only be the solution. Assuming there was a means in which gambling doesn't get ban but can be controlled to prevent addicts form taking advantage of it then it'll be done.

[adzino]

It shouldn't be banned because even if they ban it, people are still going to gamble, but this time illegally. This puts a lot of risks to both the players and the operators. Crime will rise. People will put themselves in danger to gamble. Money laundering will increase more than usual and the illegal casinos will have full power over the players. The casino can do whatever they want and no one can stop them. Keep it legal, let the government tax them a lot. Win-win situation for everyone here.

[Oasisman]

It shouldn't be banned because even if they ban it, people are still going to gamble, but this time illegally. This puts a lot of risks to both the players and the operators. Crime will rise. People will put themselves in danger to gamble. Money laundering will increase more than usual and the illegal casinos will have full power over the players. The casino can do whatever they want and no one can stop them. Keep it legal, let the government tax them a lot. Win-win situation for everyone here.

Most likely gonna be the case. I myself can testify to that. There are a lot of prohibited small time gambling activities around our country. One of the most popular one is the illegal cock fighting, card games, and other street gambling.
When I say street gambling, few examples of that are flipping coin, spider matches, and quick 3 card games. These are all prohibited as they don't have the license to operate. But, these people are going nuts about it and they actually created their own hide outs just to perform these gambling activities without getting noticed by the authorities.
So, with these examples I can't imagine if these big time casinos are banned, how much more could they cause?

[coupable]

I'm also not looking forward to see gambling be banned but I am inclined to that the government could create heavy regulations and implementations to reduce the addiction and other related to it and to protect the minors from these activities.

Like you, I had the same ideas, but by thinking carefully about some of them, I find that there is a complex question that will be asked about what strict measures that the state can impose to reduce the phenomenon of addiction to gambling or to prevent children from doing this activity. I know that it will be contrary to everything that the state should not interfere in, but the urban decision is the only way to achieve these goals as quickly as possible.

[Japinat]

I'm also not looking forward to see gambling be banned but I am inclined to that the government could create heavy regulations and implementations to reduce the addiction and other related to it and to protect the minors from these activities.

Like you, I had the same ideas, but by thinking carefully about some of them, I find that there is a complex question that will be asked about what strict measures that the state can impose to reduce the phenomenon of addiction to gambling or to prevent children from doing this activity. I know that it will be contrary to everything that the state should not interfere in, but the urban decision is the only way to achieve these goals as quickly as possible.

Surely it's hard enough to find some stringent measures that will provide what the people and country's need, gambling is just like tobacco and liquors though, it's addictive but government can't still ban it nor have the factories closed because the state or country will need the tax that will be generated by these industries. That will be a challenge to every government because the lives of their children or grandchildren is at stake when they cannot find a proper solution about this problem.

[Finestream]

Of course no.

Adult people can decide what to do with their money. It is not the government's business. People should have the right to lose money. If online gambling is going to get banned, they should ban real life gambling too. There is barely a difference.

What we need is a better education system and less population. Without these, there will always be lots of losers.

There is no reason for gambling to get banned. What we need is that the people should learn to understand that gambling should not be considered a source of living so that they won’t gamble trying to win and chase their losses. Gambling is a kind of entertainment, so we should gamble to make pleasure, not to cry out loud when we end up with big losses. If we think we can’t manage the risk in gambling, then we should not gamble in the first place.

[coolcoinz]

I think the better approach is that instead of complete prohibition, strict regulations must be implemented in order to protect gamblers, who are addicted,

I guess the reason behind the bans is because it's hard to regulate the industry in preventing addicts from taking advantage of the gambling. How do you know a gambler is an addict when someone can basically sit at the comfort of there house nowadays to play bets online without having to go to physical casino as in the old days. A caring government knows that gambling does no good to the economy of their state.

It's unhealthy when your citizens are addicts, hardly will that country be productive and be moving forward so to prevent that from been the norm, countries are resulting in banning the activity as that can only be the solution. Assuming there was a means in which gambling doesn't get ban but can be controlled to prevent addicts form taking advantage of it then it'll be done.

There are many branches of economy that are hard to regulate yet countries don't ban them. A good example is cryptocurrency. Less than 5% of countries banned it. It's the same with gambling. It's allowed in most countries and it's not because their governments aren't caring. They're rather not authoritarian regimes but countries that allow for more freedom.

How many gambling addicts are there compared to normal gamblers? 10%? A country that bans something for the minority is not democratic.

[serjent05]

Gambling is already not allowed in a number of countries, but how do you want to ban that completely and then also control it? I think that's a hopeless job to be honest. As a player, if you live in a country where gambling is prohibited, it is quite easy to play with Crypto and using a VPN on a gambling site that does not ask for a KYC and the ban is quite easy to get around. There are countries such as Spain where online gambling is not allowed but where you have many local shops where you can gamble.

There are countries like this.  They banned offshore gambling while they allowed their citizen to enjoy gambling in their government-owned Casinos.  Like in the USA, online gambling was illegal but physical gambling isn't.

Also quite strange of course that it is allowed there and banned online.

It is obvious, the government has no control when it comes to online gambling, they cannot fully exercise their taxation unless it is their own.  So rather than allowing online gambling established offshore to take a pie of the audiences and government tax income, they banned them so that citizens can just go to the government licensed gambling establishment.

[og kush420]

Gambling is already not allowed in a number of countries, but how do you want to ban that completely and then also control it? I think that's a hopeless job to be honest. As a player, if you live in a country where gambling is prohibited, it is quite easy to play with Crypto and using a VPN on a gambling site that does not ask for a KYC and the ban is quite easy to get around. There are countries such as Spain where online gambling is not allowed but where you have many local shops where you can gamble.

There are countries like this.  They banned offshore gambling while they allowed their citizen to enjoy gambling in their government-owned Casinos.  Like in the USA, online gambling was illegal but physical gambling isn't.

Also quite strange of course that it is allowed there and banned online.

It is obvious, the government has no control when it comes to online gambling, they cannot fully exercise their taxation unless it is their own.  So rather than allowing online gambling established offshore to take a pie of the audiences and government tax income, they banned them so that citizens can just go to the government licensed gambling establishment.

That is correct - gambling is illegal and banned in many countries, like in many Islamic states, gambling and alcohol and sex with without marriage is a punish able crime. These people also survive and to bring in notice the ratio of depression and anxiety is very less in those people than those who gamble.

[livingfree]

It might look funny, but it striked in my mind. Why don't we have a gambling insurance. This means a premium to be spend every month. Through this one can be availed with two claims per year. Here the user needs to list the sites he use. When the person goes for claim, the data regarding the loss will be collected by the insurance company and provides with the insurance amount. Many won't like this, because of the privacy issues.

I don't think that's even a good type of business for the insurance companies. For sure if someone has a gambling insurance, that gambler won't be scared of losing anymore as there's a backup that he can get money again.

Even if it's just one or two claims per year, that would be a lot of money for the insurance company and they'll for sure be abused by those gamblers that would find them as a back up.

It's not just about the privacy issue but also about the insurance company itself that could go bankrupt too quick if there are too many claims.