How much food can you store for survival?3

[Lida93]

I'm thinking the same since the crisis is resulting to food shortage. I'm even thinking of moving first to my cousin who live near the lake. Where we could have unlimited fish to catch. And if in case there really is a war coming. Really worried if all these will escalate to a level where there is no U turn. You never know how long it will take.

Don't you think a water purifier will give you more advantage than keeping 100liters?  I'm thinking of putting all the stored food inside a van where you can travel with you wife because this is what I have in mind.

The more you could store I think if you go for dried food vs canned goods. I tried some in a vacuumed plastic and put them all storage box, this will keep you more than 30 days.  But of course you  still need some canned goods. First aid kit and medicines like antibiotic and for flu. I could be overthinking this already but its best to prepare.

It's  just a horrible situation, one very unimaginable should such situation go beyond human control. Not to think of those that can't even afford making available certain provisions that can keep them going for just 7days not to talk of 30days and beyond.

May God help us all.

[dothebeats]

You might consider dry aging some of your meat if you're planning to keep these items for long. You can keep them in a separate refrigerator (if you have one) and let it sit there until you need them. Most of the fresh items can only last for 2 weeks, so better come up with a way to preserve them longer. Also, having a backyard garden can help you save storage space and some bags of groceries.

Personally, I can realistically store food for myself for more than a month. I have two refrigerators and a separate freezer for meat storage, which I consider a vital part of my diet. The rest are just canned goods while the fresh produce I get locally from our market.

[xSkylarx]

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If you are not lactose intolerant, powdered milk could be a good alternative to still have proper intake of calcium and can also be used when eating cereals. Since you're diabetic, find a product of that is low in sugar. Fresh egg can last a couple of days and it's also quick and easy to cook. Canned tuna has no carb but rich in protein so it can be a great addition if you can eat those type of food.

[philipma1957]

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If you are not lactose intolerant, powdered milk could be a good alternative to still have proper intake of calcium and can also be used when eating cereals. Since you're diabetic, find a product of that is low in sugar. Fresh egg can last a couple of days and it's also quick and easy to cook. Canned tuna has no carb but rich in protein so it can be a great addition if you can eat those type of food.

Powered milk may have too much sugar.

I would likely use :

canned tuna
canned chicken
spam
a jar of solid coconut fat
boxed salt free chicken broth
bottled water and water filters
vitamins
powered calcium
72 and 88 percent chocolate bars
a few bottles of vanilla vodka.
plus I have 2 fig trees which will make about 30  quarts of fig preserves.


as I said this is more for the new pandemic trick they may pull on us then it would be for a war.
also in case of a hurricane
I do have 3x 20 pound cans of propane  and a generator that uses propane.

[mm2543363580]

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If you are not lactose intolerant, powdered milk could be a good alternative to still have proper intake of calcium and can also be used when eating cereals. Since you're diabetic, find a product of that is low in sugar. Fresh egg can last a couple of days and it's also quick and easy to cook. Canned tuna has no carb but rich in protein so it can be a great addition if you can eat those type of food.

FOr many reason many people are turning to keto for weight and diabetes control
Life is good if we eat simple food and live a simple life.
And care for the people around. Life will be really good.

[DrBeer]

As the above user suggested if you were able to save dry fruits then it is able to be kept for a longer time period. For example if you're keeping Banana, it'll be wasted within a week. Same if you dry it and keep it on air tight containers it'll last for much longer time period. I don't know will people follow this and all in your country. In my region people used to dry banana and it is mostly exported and gives better revenue for the farmers. The price gets doubled when dried.

Yep, a dehydrator plus a vacuum packaging solves the problem of long-term food storage without dependence on electricity (no need for a refrigerator, just a dark, cool place). Moreover, it is possible to dry not only fruits, but also vegetables and meat in a dehydrator. Powerful industrial dehydrators cost a lot of money, but small home dehydrators are quite affordable.

Dehydrated foods are good for long-term storage, you can't argue with that. But in difficult conditions they have a disadvantage. Dehydrated foods lead to an increase in water consumption. Otherwise - a violation of the kidneys, circulatory and lymphatic systems. Some foods (such as meat) contain salts, which can also lead to swelling and fluid retention in the tissues, but this is not the same as not having to drink water, fluid stagnation is also a negative process. Fruit dehydration increases the concentration of sucrose and fructose, which also leads to additional thirst and increases fluid intake, which is one of the most valuable foods. In a word - for critical situations, products are needed that will not provoke fluid intake.

[cute nmp]

I usually store food items that can last me through out the year cause of the constant rise of food items in my country but i usually store non-perishable items that took long time before they spoil. The economic situation in my country is not that great one has to always planned ahead to survive it.

[be.open]

As the above user suggested if you were able to save dry fruits then it is able to be kept for a longer time period. For example if you're keeping Banana, it'll be wasted within a week. Same if you dry it and keep it on air tight containers it'll last for much longer time period. I don't know will people follow this and all in your country. In my region people used to dry banana and it is mostly exported and gives better revenue for the farmers. The price gets doubled when dried.

Yep, a dehydrator plus a vacuum packaging solves the problem of long-term food storage without dependence on electricity (no need for a refrigerator, just a dark, cool place). Moreover, it is possible to dry not only fruits, but also vegetables and meat in a dehydrator. Powerful industrial dehydrators cost a lot of money, but small home dehydrators are quite affordable.

Dehydrated foods are good for long-term storage, you can't argue with that. But in difficult conditions they have a disadvantage. Dehydrated foods lead to an increase in water consumption. Otherwise - a violation of the kidneys, circulatory and lymphatic systems. Some foods (such as meat) contain salts, which can also lead to swelling and fluid retention in the tissues, but this is not the same as not having to drink water, fluid stagnation is also a negative process. Fruit dehydration increases the concentration of sucrose and fructose, which also leads to additional thirst and increases fluid intake, which is one of the most valuable foods. In a word - for critical situations, products are needed that will not provoke fluid intake.

You are right and it doesn't matter if you have a separate water strategy and drinking water supply. There are too many advantages to dehydrated foods to ignore without trying to make up for the shortcomings.

[Ahli38]

I am lucky. because I live in remote areas. a little inland. but not a primitive interior because technology has even advanced here. but with a natural environment of mountains and flowing rivers. the water is so clean, the air is so fresh.

and most importantly we don't worry about food. because my house is surrounded by plantations and rice fields. and each house has its own livestock for their own consumption. so we used to eat meat, eggs and fresh milk.

and if the land dries up for example due to extreme weather changes that result in crop failure. so in the river and in the forest there are still many wild plants that can be used as food. even if our livestock catches the plague. then we can hunt in rivers and in mountains to get wild animals or fish.

so food supply is not a problem. even the harvest season is approaching. and our crops are rice and tubers which of course can be preserved even up to 1 year. so from the harvest we can save it for food reserves for at least 1 year.

we are not used to canned food. although many are sold in supermarkets. but very few fans. because we are used to eating from crops and livestock that are managed by ourselves.

so basically we can stock up food supplies for 1 year.

[yhiaali3]

I think that this varies from one country to another. Here in my country, for example, people tend in crises to stock up on basic foodstuffs such as bulgur, rice, wheat, beans, chickpeas, lentils, flour and sugar. These are the main materials here in my country. I think this is due to the different dietary habits in each country.
Also, you forgot the issue of children. If there are children, you need to add more quantities, because every family consists of at least a husband, wife and two children, so you need to add some other items related to children.

[philipma1957]

I think that this varies from one country to another. Here in my country, for example, people tend in crises to stock up on basic foodstuffs such as bulgur, rice, wheat, beans, chickpeas, lentils, flour and sugar. These are the main materials here in my country. I think this is due to the different dietary habits in each country.
Also, you forgot the issue of children. If there are children, you need to add more quantities, because every family consists of at least a husband, wife and two children, so you need to add some other items related to children.

dried beans
dried chickpeas last a long time.
dried meats work.

[Flexystar]

I wouldn’t bother storing anything. Imagine situation where world is sinking and there are riots everywhere and you are the person with big store of food somewhere in the underground room and the news flashes in between hungry and desperate people. They gonna crazy about it and will go nuts to loot it up.

Saw the news of Sri Lankan presidential outbreak? Well you might have seen how every single person marched into their kitchen just to get handful of food.

That’s how situation can go out of hands.

I would rather hunt in jungle and try to survive.

[n0ne]

I wouldn’t bother storing anything. Imagine situation where world is sinking and there are riots everywhere and you are the person with big store of food somewhere in the underground room and the news flashes in between hungry and desperate people. They gonna crazy about it and will go nuts to loot it up.

Saw the news of Sri Lankan presidential outbreak? Well you might have seen how every single person marched into their kitchen just to get handful of food.

That’s how situation can go out of hands.

I would rather hunt in jungle and try to survive.

That's true, in the past I've seen similar situation with Venezuela where people looting stores just for food. Even now those videos can be seen on YouTube. More countries are to face such situation.

As said moving to the jungle for survival is truly gonna happen, because it is like a cyclic process. Initially man lived along with animals and slowly things changed and now the same is returning.

[mm2543363580]

I wouldn’t bother storing anything. Imagine situation where world is sinking and there are riots everywhere and you are the person with big store of food somewhere in the underground room and the news flashes in between hungry and desperate people. They gonna crazy about it and will go nuts to loot it up.

Saw the news of Sri Lankan presidential outbreak? Well you might have seen how every single person marched into their kitchen just to get handful of food.

That’s how situation can go out of hands.

I would rather hunt in jungle and try to survive.

That's true, in the past I've seen similar situation with Venezuela where people looting stores just for food. Even now those videos can be seen on YouTube. More countries are to face such situation.

As said moving to the jungle for survival is truly gonna happen, because it is like a cyclic process. Initially man lived along with animals and slowly things changed and now the same is returning.

.There is another concept of rooftop gardening and balcony gardening.
Rather than storing your food grow your fruits and vegetable I have made a small garden on my own and we are happy we get Frurits and vegetable supplies. form our home ..

[jrrsparkles]

I wouldn’t bother storing anything. Imagine situation where world is sinking and there are riots everywhere and you are the person with big store of food somewhere in the underground room and the news flashes in between hungry and desperate people. They gonna crazy about it and will go nuts to loot it up.

Saw the news of Sri Lankan presidential outbreak? Well you might have seen how every single person marched into their kitchen just to get handful of food.

That’s how situation can go out of hands.

I would rather hunt in jungle and try to survive.

That's true, in the past I've seen similar situation with Venezuela where people looting stores just for food. Even now those videos can be seen on YouTube. More countries are to face such situation.

As said moving to the jungle for survival is truly gonna happen, because it is like a cyclic process. Initially man lived along with animals and slowly things changed and now the same is returning.

.There is another concept of rooftop gardening and balcony gardening.
Rather than storing your food grow your fruits and vegetable I have made a small garden on my own and we are happy we get Frurits and vegetable supplies. form our home ..

But you can't grow everything you eat and if you say you can survive only with veggies then roof garden is not going to help you because this topic is all about natural calamities so those garden maybe completely wiped out due to rain or hurricane, etc which means you will starve for food if you didn't have stored food.
Interestingly I saw a film where people stuck in their safe storage but they had enough food supplies for two to 3 decades for a family of 3 and the food supplies shown there was about size of a mini mart.

[DrBeer]

As the above user suggested if you were able to save dry fruits then it is able to be kept for a longer time period. For example if you're keeping Banana, it'll be wasted within a week. Same if you dry it and keep it on air tight containers it'll last for much longer time period. I don't know will people follow this and all in your country. In my region people used to dry banana and it is mostly exported and gives better revenue for the farmers. The price gets doubled when dried.

Yep, a dehydrator plus a vacuum packaging solves the problem of long-term food storage without dependence on electricity (no need for a refrigerator, just a dark, cool place). Moreover, it is possible to dry not only fruits, but also vegetables and meat in a dehydrator. Powerful industrial dehydrators cost a lot of money, but small home dehydrators are quite affordable.

Dehydrated foods are good for long-term storage, you can't argue with that. But in difficult conditions they have a disadvantage. Dehydrated foods lead to an increase in water consumption. Otherwise - a violation of the kidneys, circulatory and lymphatic systems. Some foods (such as meat) contain salts, which can also lead to swelling and fluid retention in the tissues, but this is not the same as not having to drink water, fluid stagnation is also a negative process. Fruit dehydration increases the concentration of sucrose and fructose, which also leads to additional thirst and increases fluid intake, which is one of the most valuable foods. In a word - for critical situations, products are needed that will not provoke fluid intake.

You are right and it doesn't matter if you have a separate water strategy and drinking water supply. There are too many advantages to dehydrated foods to ignore without trying to make up for the shortcomings.

It is foolish to argue about the qualitative characteristics of dehydrated products. They keep perfectly and for a long time, they retain nutrients, minerals and vitamins. But in certain situations, their use can create additional problems. And if a person does not have sufficient supplies of clean drinking water, then this is the very unpleasant situation. It just needs to be taken into account, and at least have a workaround - to have an adequate supply of water purification tablets, because. very often, after global or local cataclysms, drinking water becomes one of the most inaccessible products. Total - add more tablets to your backpack to purify contaminated water. The taste is certainly not the most pleasant, but the body will not suffer.

[DrBeer]

It is foolish to argue about the qualitative characteristics of dehydrated products. They keep perfectly and for a long time, they retain nutrients, minerals and vitamins. But in certain situations, their use can create additional problems. And if a person does not have sufficient supplies of clean drinking water, then this is the very unpleasant situation. It just needs to be taken into account, and at least have a workaround - to have an adequate supply of water purification tablets, because. very often, after global or local cataclysms, drinking water becomes one of the most inaccessible products. Total - add more tablets to your backpack to purify contaminated water. The taste is certainly not the most pleasant, but the body will not suffer.

there days in our country - there is flood - and those who used to do charity and now seeking funds.
Also in our religion - storing food is prohibited - we keep the food supply for a few days. And that is it.
It good to be prepared but everytime - the reins are in the hand of GOd.

No offense - but I would not rely on religion in a difficult situation. Human life is the highest value, and neither the aggressor nor the natural disaster has the right to take it.
But if it comes to that, and religion is so significant to you - religion says that man is "the son of God, created in the likeness of the Creator." Therefore, decisions to save the life of the "son of God" should still be made in order to justify the hope and efforts of the Almighty! Nobody forces you to keep a food warehouse, but if natural disasters are not uncommon and systemic, you must be prepared to resist attempts to destroy the fruit of the work of higher forces!

[Obari]

The level of food we needed in life is unlimited I think because we need enough in our daily lives
When there is sufficient of food we are okay and we feel alive but when it gets exhausted I think there is a problem
The only estimation your can give on food is the meal that can make up your day neglecting the next day because surely you must eat
It is advisable to store as much as available food because it is a source of energy

[dansus021]

sorry asking this question but you dont have to answer my question when and why you get diabetic it is from parent or just you recently have. Recently I have 110 Blood sugar level is this still at normal level.

and I think for survival we need medicine too right?
like insulin in your case
some painkillers mefenamic acid, ibuprofen or other types of painkiller
multivitamin
antibiotic and other basic drug

[Sakanwa]

The level of food we needed in life is unlimited I think because we need enough in our daily lives
When there is sufficient of food we are okay and we feel alive but when it gets exhausted I think there is a problem
The only estimation your can give on food is the meal that can make up your day neglecting the next day because surely you must eat
It is advisable to store as much as available food because it is a source of energy

Yes you are right because as day goes by our need increases we need enough food to survive that's why people work 24/7 in other to provide for their various families.
Most time we misunderstand the main reason why we work all day, the only reason I can see is to afford food and other items needed for our personal hygiene