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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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June 01, 2023, 12:46:18 PM
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I saw that if skriniar has been coming back again in the training session but seeing how the composition of defenders against acmilan was able making the club to get cleansheet makes me think that if skriniar will not be used by simeone against manchester city.
I remember that if intermilan used three back scheme against acmilan and it's bastoni, acerbi and darmian who already trusted in the match against acmilan.
Simeone was feeling dilemma whether he needs to use skriniar against manchester city or not. The main aim to guard haaland and kill his movement. that's the main target by simeone.
It's very hard to think that if simeone will not be using skriniar against manchester city. i think that if the result against acmilan doesn't enough to be used as measurement to use the same schema against city caused by city was not acmilan.


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June 01, 2023, 01:33:56 PM
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This is a football game you shouldn’t be so sure what will happen, i can say manchester city are the better side to win but it doesn’t mean inter can not win as well. I know guardiola will definitely like to win win his first champions league trophy with man city knowing that he is playing a less weaker opponent this time around compared to other teams he has faced in previous finals so I believe this is enough reason for him to be ruthless. If he wants to win his defense will have to be at their best and try not to concede goals.
I think what you are saying is actually quite logical for everyone to understand because basically Inter Milan also wants to win the Champions League so that Inter Milan will not forget to prepare a good strategy for the Champions League final and are also very aware that the opponent Inter Milan will face is the best team in the Premier League and also the team that has won another trophy in the Premier League this season. So Inter Milan will also try hard to have a better defense so they don't concede easily.
Inter Milan's best strategy is to play a defensive formation and then leave very few attackers up front, such as Lautaro Martinez and Lukaku, so that they can easily frustrate Manchester City. If they try to go head to head with more attackers, I believe it will be a problem for them and it will be difficult to withstand City's attack. Inter can also be a problem, so both teams must be cautious and not rush things.



Lukaku and Martinez showed their best form in the last few matches, I'm sure Inzaghi will prefer to use these duo-strikers in the final UCL. Martinez could score quite consistently during this season, while Lukaku finds his good form again recently. Inzaghi has 2 productive strikers and they are in good form toward the final round. This is a good sign for Inter, they probably will play more confidently against Man City.

I prefer to see lukaku rather than dzeko. it's caused by lukaku has capability to help its friend as well. I just saw that from previous matches in serie a about how lukaku was always helping its friend to attack. It's caused by lukaku is much more dicipline compared with dzeko.


Lukaku is the most suitable for this kinda games, playing a defensive strategy and then letting lukaku and lautaro face defenders can be deadly. Thats the kinda game lukaku can be more active and more useful, his strength and speed will be so useful when inter counter attacks manchester city.

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June 01, 2023, 01:39:27 PM
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Yes but Real Madrid has proven that it is possible to take Haaland out of the game in the literal sense. In the first leg he was almost invisible and in the second leg he also didn't score and neither did De Bruyne in the second leg. I am mentioning this because the focus will be on those two players, but what makes Manchester City really strong is the fact that they have eleven players who are outstanding. Most of them can score whether they play in the offensive or midfield lines. Since Inter is strong defensively, they will know well enough that Haaland should not be their only focus and it won't be.
Real Madrid played well in the first leg and they even were able to beat Manchester City at Bernabeu. In the first half, Rudiger completed his task well and prevented Haaland to bring danger to Real Madrid goalkeeper.
In the second leg at Etihad, Real Madrid collapsed because genius tactical changes from Pep Guardiola. They did not proactively prepare for such tactics from Pep and Manchester City but that win has one important moment. The second goal of Bernado Silva is important as it is a great play from Manchester City players but Bernado did need luckiness to score that goal. I am sure scoring goals with head is not his strength and luckily the ball bounces to a good height for Bernado to make that head shot.
Inter Milan can learn from Real Madrid and block Manchester City attacking system not only Haaland in the final.
Yes but I also think that the result from the first leg has an impact in so far as it also puts pressure on Real Madrid and their choice of strategies. I still believe that Manchester City would have won this one if they were 1 goal down from the first leg, but it would have changed the things a bit. This is why against Inter Milan a lot will depend on whether Manchester City scores an early goal or one in the first half. That would give Inter such a hard time to come back because you really don't want to be the team that is behind and has to score a goal against Manchester City.

I agree with you. If Real Madrid could have performed well in the home match, then maybe they would have been able to play better in the second leg. Due to poor performance in the home match, the Madrid team has to be eliminated from the semi-finals. In the Inter Milan vs Manchester City match, I think the outcome of the match will largely depend on which team scores the first goal of the match. If Inter Milan can score the first goal of the match, it will be very difficult for Manchester City to win this match. Because if Inter Milan can score the first goal, they will play completely defensively. And if Inter Milan plays purely defensively, Inter's defense is hard to break down.

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June 01, 2023, 02:10:23 PM
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In my opinion , Real had a rough season from start to end in both LaLiga but also UCL so they missing both objectives is not something that should surprise us. What should surprise us , is that , they somehow won a trophy on Copa Del Rey because that is what saved the season for them. Now , I don't see a bright future in the next coming years for Real when it comes to UCL because , they really don't have a new generation that can achieve what Ronaldo , Modric and Benzema era achieved and even if they get Mbappe , I still don't see them as future champions ...like the next coming 3-4 years.

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June 01, 2023, 02:53:47 PM
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So true. And what you also have to watch out for from Man City is that Man City players also have a habit of making attacks quickly through short passes with a very good level of accuracy. And the running speed of the Man City players also has incredible running speed and individual mastery. so it will indeed be very difficult for any team to beat Man City with their current performance. But if it turns out that Inter Milan managed to beat Man City then I think it is quite a surprise. but I have a feeling that is not going to happen.
This is what makes Manchester City superior where almost all of its players have equal individual skills. So that it is much more effective in building attacks and makes Pep Guardiola more free to rotate each player. Individual skills that are quite troublesome for the opponent's defense. Now Inter task is very much, to block the movement of the Mancester City players.

The closer to the final time, the more the pressure will be strong enough, the mentality of the Inter players will be tested in the final match. In my opinion, if Inter succeeds in reading the direction of Pep Guardiola game, it will open up opportunities, before finally Pep is able to change strategy during the match.

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June 01, 2023, 03:43:34 PM
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This is what makes Manchester City superior where almost all of its players have equal individual skills. So that it is much more effective in building attacks and makes Pep Guardiola more free to rotate each player.
Manchester City created big impression after their big win at Etihad against Real Madrid and they will bring that confidence to the final match with Inter Milan. After some seasons with difficulty to end in failures and lot of disappointment, now Manchester City will have a final match to win a first Champions League in their history. I don't think Pep will make some unnecessary changes and suicide in this final like what he did in a final match with Chelsea years ago.

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Individual skills that are quite troublesome for the opponent's defense. Now Inter task is very much, to block the movement of the Mancester City players.

The closer to the final time, the more the pressure will be strong enough, the mentality of the Inter players will be tested in the final match. In my opinion, if Inter succeeds in reading the direction of Pep Guardiola game, it will open up opportunities, before finally Pep is able to change strategy during the match.
Inter Milan surely have very strong mentality but they need more than that. Perfect performance from their players and fair whistle from the referee as well as support from luckiness. If Inter Milan don't have all of those conditions, they will not be able to win Manchester City.

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June 01, 2023, 04:04:25 PM
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In my opinion , Real had a rough season from start to end in both LaLiga but also UCL so they missing both objectives is not something that should surprise us. What should surprise us , is that , they somehow won a trophy on Copa Del Rey because that is what saved the season for them. Now , I don't see a bright future in the next coming years for Real when it comes to UCL because , they really don't have a new generation that can achieve what Ronaldo , Modric and Benzema era achieved and even if they get Mbappe , I still don't see them as future champions ...like the next coming 3-4 years.
I thought that after Real Madrid missed the chance to win La Liga this season, they could make up for this failure by winning the champions league as usual, but in fact they didn't succeed against Manchester City who have an extraordinary squad this season. Indeed, regeneration is the main problem that Real Madrid currently has and if they are still too late to fix it next season then Real Madrid will still miss the chance to win the champions league next season.

But now it's become clear what problems Real Madrid are facing and club president Florentino Perez has already held a meeting with coach Ancelotti to discuss player targets in the summer and it looks like we'll soon find out which talent will come to the Santiago Bernabeu. Benzema, Modric and Kroos are too old and indeed it is not their era anymore if they want to compete with other young players, but I hope the senior players are aware of their declining quality so that they can provide a place for young players to fill their positions.

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June 01, 2023, 04:29:07 PM
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So true. And what you also have to watch out for from Man City is that Man City players also have a habit of making attacks quickly through short passes with a very good level of accuracy. And the running speed of the Man City players also has incredible running speed and individual mastery. so it will indeed be very difficult for any team to beat Man City with their current performance. But if it turns out that Inter Milan managed to beat Man City then I think it is quite a surprise. but I have a feeling that is not going to happen.
This is what makes Manchester City superior where almost all of its players have equal individual skills. So that it is much more effective in building attacks and makes Pep Guardiola more free to rotate each player. Individual skills that are quite troublesome for the opponent's defense. Now Inter task is very much, to block the movement of the Mancester City players.
It's a slightly different final, but exciting and full of intrigue, as it would confirm the rise in the level of Italian football or see Manchester City become champions of the Champions League for the first time in history.Manchester City, who reaching the final doesn't surprise me, as I believe they are currently the best team and play the best football. However, Inter's presence is somewhat surprising, considering they haven't been a protagonist in the Champions League for over a decade. It's not only surprising for Inter but also for Serie A, as the last time an Italian team reached the final was in 2017, when it was Juventus versus Real Madrid. Since then, no Italian club has had a good Champions League campaign. What I do know is that Inter is not arriving in the final in bad shape. They won't make it easy for Manchester City.

I have watched some of Inter's matches, and they play really well. They are a compact team that performs at a high level. Moreover, the team seems to have reached its peak for this final. So, if you think Inter is the underdog in the final, let me tell you that it's not the case. Manchester City will have a tough challenge against them. Now, as for Manchester City, they are obviously the favorite to win the Champions League. It seems that after many seasons of trying and spending millions, Guardiola has finally built a team that can win their first Champions League.

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June 01, 2023, 04:36:44 PM
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So true. And what you also have to watch out for from Man City is that Man City players also have a habit of making attacks quickly through short passes with a very good level of accuracy. And the running speed of the Man City players also has incredible running speed and individual mastery. so it will indeed be very difficult for any team to beat Man City with their current performance. But if it turns out that Inter Milan managed to beat Man City then I think it is quite a surprise. but I have a feeling that is not going to happen.
This is what makes Manchester City superior where almost all of its players have equal individual skills. So that it is much more effective in building attacks and makes Pep Guardiola more free to rotate each player. Individual skills that are quite troublesome for the opponent's defense. Now Inter task is very much, to block the movement of the Mancester City players.

The closer to the final time, the more the pressure will be strong enough, the mentality of the Inter players will be tested in the final match. In my opinion, if Inter succeeds in reading the direction of Pep Guardiola game, it will open up opportunities, before finally Pep is able to change strategy during the match.

If for example Inter wins, then I assume Manchester City doesn't have good luck in the Champions League or is like a curse due to its failures in the previous few seasons in the Champions League. But yes, when it comes to reality, then of course Manchester City have a good squad in all positions compared to Inter. So yes, the victory for Manchester City in the Champions League final this time may be certain, although we also do not underestimate Inter but on paper Manchester City certainly has a promising ability to win.

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June 01, 2023, 04:37:30 PM
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I agree with you. If Real Madrid could have performed well in the home match, then maybe they would have been able to play better in the second leg. Due to poor performance in the home match, the Madrid team has to be eliminated from the semi-finals.
We expected Real Madrid to win the UEFA Champions League semi-final first leg against Manchester City but we were wrong as they drew 1-1 with Manchester City at their home ground. A poor performance in the first leg saw them lose badly to Manchester City in the second leg. Because every team will want to take advantage against their home ground opponent but Real Madrid failed there completely.  Maybe Real Madrid's plan was wrong in both matches against Manchester City, which is why they lost in the semi-final in this way.

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June 01, 2023, 04:39:19 PM
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So true. And what you also have to watch out for from Man City is that Man City players also have a habit of making attacks quickly through short passes with a very good level of accuracy. And the running speed of the Man City players also has incredible running speed and individual mastery. so it will indeed be very difficult for any team to beat Man City with their current performance. But if it turns out that Inter Milan managed to beat Man City then I think it is quite a surprise. but I have a feeling that is not going to happen.

We all still never know which team between the two will win that game. Manchester City and Inter both have to be wary of anything that threatens their chances of winning, but Inter may be a super busy team in defense as Manchester City have been so hard to stop.

Manchester City will play their usual attacking football which will allow them to press Inter hard from the first half. Manchester City's main problem is if Inter are good enough defensively, so I don't think it's a game that is going to be 3-4 goals. I agree that Manchester City deserves to be the favorites because of their form, but still I can't completely underestimate Inter.

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June 01, 2023, 05:38:45 PM
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From the performance of these two club it has shown that city is more stronger and capable of winning the match than Inter. City has a better chance of making history this season,if they can win the match. Inter shouldn't be underestimated in this match because the club has the experience in the league but that isn't something that we should use to judge the winner. I know that Inter has a good defense and if they are play a draw game till the end of 120mins,then I guess it might be an advantage for Inter to win the league again because penalty shoot out is a game of luck. The lucky side on the day will win the game.

Manchester City are favorite mere looking at the game one would make predictions on Manchester City to win the game. Inter Milan have found themselves not by luck but with so much hard work and I still don't overlook them nor underestimate them on that day of the finals.

I'm sure Manchester City would cause trauma with the kind of gamr they'll play against Inter Milan but taking sides is something I don't want to do so fast. I just want to see and observe. Although, I'm in much love with how Pep Guardiola goes bout with his tactics. It'll be such a great night, Prediction I'll make although it's a hard one is for Erling Haaland not to score that night. Hard ain't it?!

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June 01, 2023, 05:45:04 PM
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I agree with you. If Real Madrid could have performed well in the home match, then maybe they would have been able to play better in the second leg. Due to poor performance in the home match, the Madrid team has to be eliminated from the semi-finals.
We expected Real Madrid to win the UEFA Champions League semi-final first leg against Manchester City but we were wrong as they drew 1-1 with Manchester City at their home ground. A poor performance in the first leg saw them lose badly to Manchester City in the second leg. Because every team will want to take advantage against their home ground opponent but Real Madrid failed there completely.  Maybe Real Madrid's plan was wrong in both matches against Manchester City, which is why they lost in the semi-final in this way.

I don't expect Real Madrid to win against Manchester City. Because Madrid was too dependent on Benzema. Being dependent on one player is too risky. Benzema's performances this season have also been somewhat erratic. But I expected a better performance from Madrid. Madrid did not perform well in either of the two matches. I thought they were quite weak against Manchester City. Madrid's players lost confidence. This made it much easier for City to win the match.

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June 01, 2023, 06:30:28 PM
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So true. And what you also have to watch out for from Man City is that Man City players also have a habit of making attacks quickly through short passes with a very good level of accuracy. And the running speed of the Man City players also has incredible running speed and individual mastery. so it will indeed be very difficult for any team to beat Man City with their current performance. But if it turns out that Inter Milan managed to beat Man City then I think it is quite a surprise. but I have a feeling that is not going to happen.
This is what makes Manchester City superior where almost all of its players have equal individual skills. So that it is much more effective in building attacks and makes Pep Guardiola more free to rotate each player. Individual skills that are quite troublesome for the opponent's defense. Now Inter task is very much, to block the movement of the Mancester City players.

The closer to the final time, the more the pressure will be strong enough, the mentality of the Inter players will be tested in the final match. In my opinion, if Inter succeeds in reading the direction of Pep Guardiola game, it will open up opportunities, before finally Pep is able to change strategy during the match.

If for example Inter wins, then I assume Manchester City doesn't have good luck in the Champions League or is like a curse due to its failures in the previous few seasons in the Champions League. But yes, when it comes to reality, then of course Manchester City have a good squad in all positions compared to Inter. So yes, the victory for Manchester City in the Champions League final this time may be certain, although we also do not underestimate Inter but on paper Manchester City certainly has a promising ability to win.

Manchester City has a history of struggling to carry the Champions League, but I don't believe it will be an issue this time around as I don't anticipate any errors. They have actually come a long way to be letting Inter Milan have their way; I don't even see Manchester City having any problems in the championship game finals. Manchester City also possesses well-known players who are good at both attacking and defending, giving them a stronger chance than Milan. Although I am aware that we shouldn't undervalue Milan's performance, they still fall short of Manchester City's. The more difficult it will be to defeat Guardiola, as seen by the way Manchester City plays, and everyone wants to watch the new champions, the days are becoming closer than predicted. I won't be missing the game in any way.

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June 01, 2023, 06:38:53 PM
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In my opinion , Real had a rough season from start to end in both LaLiga but also UCL so they missing both objectives is not something that should surprise us. What should surprise us , is that , they somehow won a trophy on Copa Del Rey because that is what saved the season for them. Now , I don't see a bright future in the next coming years for Real when it comes to UCL because , they really don't have a new generation that can achieve what Ronaldo , Modric and Benzema era achieved and even if they get Mbappe , I still don't see them as future champions ...like the next coming 3-4 years.
Many people are too selfish to say something as factual as you say. They keep boasting and defending that Real Madrid can and always can, even if that's in the past. Meanwhile, I admit that Real Madrid has played poorly this season, especially regarding its performance, not commensurate with the expectations of its fans, who always expect a title at the end of the season.

I know Real Madrid are a good team to compete in any competition every season, but when they don't have the same generation from season to season, then they are finished too. Barcelona has experienced it, so Real Madrid will also experience it in the coming seasons. This cycle will always change even though Real Madrid is the team with the best history in La Liga, Champions League and other competitions.

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June 01, 2023, 06:39:58 PM
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Manchester City has a history of struggling to carry the Champions League, but I don't believe it will be an issue this time around as I don't anticipate any errors. They have actually come a long way to be letting Inter Milan have their way; I don't even see Manchester City having any problems in the championship game finals. Manchester City also possesses well-known players who are good at both attacking and defending, giving them a stronger chance than Milan. Although I am aware that we shouldn't undervalue Milan's performance, they still fall short of Manchester City's. The more difficult it will be to defeat Guardiola, as seen by the way Manchester City plays, and everyone wants to watch the new champions, the days are becoming closer than predicted. I won't be missing the game in any way.
City is a team with good-quality players. almost every line of the game that City showed was very neat. For several years City has been planning a squad that keeps getting better. and this season seems to be City's best season.
facing Inter is not an easy match. it will be a challenge for City. although in terms of the quality of the game, there will still be more City favorites. City will be champions, but it won't be easy. Inter can also provide a game that City might not expect. This is the final match, whoever will try their best to win.



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June 01, 2023, 06:40:45 PM
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I agree with you. If Real Madrid could have performed well in the home match, then maybe they would have been able to play better in the second leg. Due to poor performance in the home match, the Madrid team has to be eliminated from the semi-finals. In the Inter Milan vs Manchester City match, I think the outcome of the match will largely depend on which team scores the first goal of the match. If Inter Milan can score the first goal of the match, it will be very difficult for Manchester City to win this match. Because if Inter Milan can score the first goal, they will play completely defensively. And if Inter Milan plays purely defensively, Inter's defense is hard to break down.

There is some aspect that I would like to add though. The first goal will have a large impact on the goal because either strategy of both teams will play out even better. A goal is good in any case for obvious reasons, but both teams have their strength that after a goal becomes even more impactful.

But I think that a first goal for Manchester City weighs heavier than a first goal for Inter Milan because Manchester City has more qualify to turn a game around. Their pressing will become disgustingly hard for Inter Milan. But when Manchester City scores the first goal,  what is Inter's quality to turn the game around? There I see a difference between the two teams. Inter can't press as hard when they have to and City will play ball control on the highest level no matter what. That makes it harder for Inter to come back.

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June 01, 2023, 06:49:21 PM
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So true. And what you also have to watch out for from Man City is that Man City players also have a habit of making attacks quickly through short passes with a very good level of accuracy. And the running speed of the Man City players also has incredible running speed and individual mastery. so it will indeed be very difficult for any team to beat Man City with their current performance. But if it turns out that Inter Milan managed to beat Man City then I think it is quite a surprise. but I have a feeling that is not going to happen.
This is what makes Manchester City superior where almost all of its players have equal individual skills. So that it is much more effective in building attacks and makes Pep Guardiola more free to rotate each player. Individual skills that are quite troublesome for the opponent's defense. Now Inter task is very much, to block the movement of the Mancester City players.

The closer to the final time, the more the pressure will be strong enough, the mentality of the Inter players will be tested in the final match. In my opinion, if Inter succeeds in reading the direction of Pep Guardiola game, it will open up opportunities, before finally Pep is able to change strategy during the match.
actually what is more difficult to predict at this time is what strategy will be used by Inter Milan. There is still much debate about this. Some of us think that Inter Milan will adopt a defensive strategy. and some of us think that a defensive strategy will only make Man City more flexible in making more attacks into Inter Milan's defense area. So it is predicted that Inter Milan will also apply the same existing strategy as Man City, namely an offensive strategy. But I personally am still confused about what Inzaghi will do for the best strategy for Inter Milan. because actually what Inter needs is a solid defense and also an effective attack. But to make this strategy requires individual skills from each player. and I doubt Inter Milan has that. In contrast to Man City which is more flexible. because the Man City players do have qualified individual skills.

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June 01, 2023, 07:03:48 PM
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City is a team with good-quality players. almost every line of the game that City showed was very neat. For several years City has been planning a squad that keeps getting better. and this season seems to be City's best season.
facing Inter is not an easy match. it will be a challenge for City. although in terms of the quality of the game, there will still be more City favorites. City will be champions, but it won't be easy. Inter can also provide a game that City might not expect. This is the final match, whoever will try their best to win.
Inter will be a strong opponent in this final round and can put pressure on Man City players to be difficult to score goals. I'm still a little doubtful in my prediction because even though Man City is superior in performance to Inter, I'm a little sure that Inter will use a defensive strategy and make the position a draw and will head to the penalty shootout.
well, from this penalty shootout which will make it a little difficult for Man City to win the title after seeing the UEL match I'm a little unsure for this UCL match but I still hope that Man City has to get the upper hand on the score early and start making a defensive strategy until the match ends.
from my current doubts I prefer to bet on both teams score to get bigger odds.

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June 01, 2023, 07:09:17 PM
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In my opinion , Real had a rough season from start to end in both LaLiga but also UCL so they missing both objectives is not something that should surprise us. What should surprise us , is that , they somehow won a trophy on Copa Del Rey because that is what saved the season for them. Now , I don't see a bright future in the next coming years for Real when it comes to UCL because , they really don't have a new generation that can achieve what Ronaldo , Modric and Benzema era achieved and even if they get Mbappe , I still don't see them as future champions ...like the next coming 3-4 years.

I disagree with you; you can't predict the future of Real Madrid because we are discussing a game, and a game is something that one must win or lose. Real Madrid is capable of winning the league without Ronaldo; in fact, they did so last season despite his absence. They put forth a strong effort in the Champions League this season because if they didn't, they wouldn't have even advanced to the semifinal stage.
I'm not saying this because I support Real Madrid or because I'm a fan of the team; rather, I'm saying it because we should understand what a game is. In regards to Mbappe, if Real Madrid acquires him, I think the team will look fantastic and they will continue to win the Champions League.

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