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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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June 03, 2023, 05:49:57 AM
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What do you think about Manchester City and Inter Milan's Champions League final? I am putting Manchester City ahead in this match as the team is currently performing exceptionally well in all of them. Also, this team has defeated teams like Real Madrid by a huge margin.
Without a doubt Manchester city should be the favorite to get the win on the upcoming final, Inter Milan is a great team but I think many did not saw them reaching the final at the beginning of the tournament, so they have been playing at a level higher than the expectations people had of them, but Manchester city was always one of the favorites and with the dominant victory they got over the current champions then this does nothing more but to increase the belief people have they are the team that should be the favorite on the final.



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June 03, 2023, 06:20:43 AM
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What do you think about Manchester City and Inter Milan's Champions League final? I am putting Manchester City ahead in this match as the team is currently performing exceptionally well in all of them. Also, this team has defeated teams like Real Madrid by a huge margin.
Without a doubt Manchester city should be the favorite to get the win on the upcoming final, Inter Milan is a great team but I think many did not saw them reaching the final at the beginning of the tournament, so they have been playing at a level higher than the expectations people had of them, but Manchester city was always one of the favorites and with the dominant victory they got over the current champions then this does nothing more but to increase the belief people have they are the team that should be the favorite on the final.
I think Inter Milan will have to play completely defensively from the start. If they suddenly get a chance, it is possible to break Manchester City's attack through counter attack. As Inter Milan have players like Lautaro Martinez and Lukaku in attack.

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June 03, 2023, 06:49:25 AM
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What do you think about Manchester City and Inter Milan's Champions League final? I am putting Manchester City ahead in this match as the team is currently performing exceptionally well in all of them. Also, this team has defeated teams like Real Madrid by a huge margin.
Without a doubt Manchester city should be the favorite to get the win on the upcoming final, Inter Milan is a great team but I think many did not saw them reaching the final at the beginning of the tournament, so they have been playing at a level higher than the expectations people had of them, but Manchester city was always one of the favorites and with the dominant victory they got over the current champions then this does nothing more but to increase the belief people have they are the team that should be the favorite on the final.
without doubt Manchester City is the clear favourites to win the Champions League
But as you have pointed out, nobody expected Inter Milan to get to the final of this Champions league because they are not better than many teams that were eliminated in the Champions League. So for Inter Milan to go to the final even when people did not expect them to reach the finals means that they have the ability to pull out some surprises but not in this one because Manchester City is already a standard squad to lift the Champions League

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June 03, 2023, 06:54:33 AM
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I think Inter Milan will have to play completely defensively from the start. If they suddenly get a chance, it is possible to break Manchester City's attack through counter attack. As Inter Milan have players like Lautaro Martinez and Lukaku in attack.
It is of utmost importance to prevent an early goal from Manchester City. As we know, an early goal can significantly alter the players' mentality, even though the match has just begun. The pressure from Manchester City seems to be formidable, hence employing a counter-attack strategy might not be a bad choice for Inter to match their gameplay.

What I expect from Inter is a high level of motivation fueled by the immense support from fans in Italy to end the drought of European titles for an Italian team. With such motivation, the spirit of Inter to play with dominance is likely to emerge right from the start of the match.
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June 03, 2023, 07:33:20 AM
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I think Inter Milan will have to play completely defensively from the start. If they suddenly get a chance, it is possible to break Manchester City's attack through counter attack. As Inter Milan have players like Lautaro Martinez and Lukaku in attack.
It is of utmost importance to prevent an early goal from Manchester City. As we know, an early goal can significantly alter the players' mentality, even though the match has just begun. The pressure from Manchester City seems to be formidable, hence employing a counter-attack strategy might not be a bad choice for Inter to match their gameplay.

What I expect from Inter is a high level of motivation fueled by the immense support from fans in Italy to end the drought of European titles for an Italian team. With such motivation, the spirit of Inter to play with dominance is likely to emerge right from the start of the match.
To be honest, it's difficult to determine how Inter Milan should play, because all the advantages are in Manchester City at the moment. Playing defensively might be a solution, but the pressure they will face makes the risk even greater. Playing open and attacking will also create wide gaps, moreover, Manchester City has a very good line of attack. Maybe balancing the midfield could be a good option for them.

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June 03, 2023, 08:21:10 AM
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It is not only the wealth that Manchester City has. Chelsea has never been so consistently strong like Manchester City and they were pretty much the first club that was pumped with billions. Chelsea has been a strong team for quite a while, but not this dominant force that Manchester City is. I think this shows how important a coach can be for a long-term project.
A period of seven years provides ample time for a manager to discern the optimal composition for their team to compete in both domestic and European leagues. This is the prime moment for Manchester City to finally bring the coveted Champions League trophy to the Etihad Stadium after years of anticipation.

This season, Manchester City appears poised to etch a remarkable new chapter in history. We are well aware that the chances of achieving the treble title are wide open, causing increasing anxiety among Manchester United fans due to their cross-town rival's dominance.
What do you think about Manchester City and Inter Milan's Champions League final? I am putting Manchester City ahead in this match as the team is currently performing exceptionally well in all of them. Also, this team has defeated teams like Real Madrid by a huge margin.
If a prediction is made between Inter Milan and Manchester City then Manchester City must be avoided in that prediction but the result of the match is not always determined according to the prediction. No matter how big a team performs in such big matches, there is always a pressure on them and playing with this pressure, if they make a mistake, then the result of the match will be different. Manchester City have beaten the likes of Real Madrid, Bayern Munich but if they fail to perform well in the final match, the result of the match may slip away from them. For now it is better not to put any team ahead, we are just looking forward to this match and hope it will be a good match.
I simply don't understand what you meant by saying Man City should be avoided in the prediction of their game, I guess that's a mistake since they are the contention here. Regardless, I agree with the stance that the result of a match is not solely based on speculation of how one team is better than the other. If that is the case, you are suggesting that luck could happen, but I will still not be among the people that will rely on luck to speculate a match, particularly the one I so much have an interest in.

And one thing I will like you to hold is that Man City is not always irresponsible to be underestimating their opponents like many clubs do, go and check their history from about a decade ago. They will try their best even if you lose, and I believe that they own the cup in all ramifications except for luck, but I will not believe that luck will play out for Inter Milan this time, it's not a crime for Man City to hold the trophy for once.

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June 03, 2023, 09:32:21 AM
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What do you think about Manchester City and Inter Milan's Champions League final? I am putting Manchester City ahead in this match as the team is currently performing exceptionally well in all of them. Also, this team has defeated teams like Real Madrid by a huge margin.
Without a doubt Manchester city should be the favorite to get the win on the upcoming final, Inter Milan is a great team but I think many did not saw them reaching the final at the beginning of the tournament, so they have been playing at a level higher than the expectations people had of them, but Manchester city was always one of the favorites and with the dominant victory they got over the current champions then this does nothing more but to increase the belief people have they are the team that should be the favorite on the final.
without doubt Manchester City is the clear favourites to win the Champions League
But as you have pointed out, nobody expected Inter Milan to get to the final of this Champions league because they are not better than many teams that were eliminated in the Champions League. So for Inter Milan to go to the final even when people did not expect them to reach the finals means that they have the ability to pull out some surprises but not in this one because Manchester City is already a standard squad to lift the Champions League
The danger for becoming a favorite in this kind final to get the prestigious title is when you become overconfident and can't control the players , you might feelin it if you have ever play a sunday league when you knew the opponent has a lower quality then you do the careless shit the whole game and get slipped to lose .

Any final will always had a 50/50 chance no matter how good one side on the paper. The pressure make the difference.

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June 03, 2023, 09:51:16 AM
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I simply don't understand what you meant by saying Man City should be avoided in the prediction of their game, I guess that's a mistake since they are the contention here. Regardless, I agree with the stance that the result of a match is not solely based on speculation of how one team is better than the other. If that is the case, you are suggesting that luck could happen, but I will still not be among the people that will rely on luck to speculate a match, particularly the one I so much have an interest in.
Manchester City are very strong and because of this, odds usually are not too good when you bet on Manchester City. Predictions for fun in your mind are easy, win or lose and mostly Manchester City win but if it goes to sports betting, you can lose with your bets even Manchester City win their matches. I guess that is reason the poster wrote about risk when you bet with Manchester City.

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And one thing I will like you to hold is that Man City is not always irresponsible to be underestimating their opponents like many clubs do, go and check their history from about a decade ago. They will try their best even if you lose, and I believe that they own the cup in all ramifications except for luck, but I will not believe that luck will play out for Inter Milan this time, it's not a crime for Man City to hold the trophy for once.
Manchester City with Pep Guardiola management never underestimate their opponents but they sometimes want to try with modifications in their tactics and new positions for their players. Sometimes it works fine and they win but some more scarce times, it does not work and they lose or draw. If you bet with them in those lost or draw matches, you will lose money.

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June 03, 2023, 11:05:14 AM
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It is of utmost importance to prevent an early goal from Manchester City. As we know, an early goal can significantly alter the players' mentality, even though the match has just begun. The pressure from Manchester City seems to be formidable, hence employing a counter-attack strategy might not be a bad choice for Inter to match their gameplay.
You are right that Inzaghi needs to warn his players to prevent goals from happening in the early minutes from Manchester City because it can have an impact on the mentality of the players.
Manchester City's playing style has always been pressing since the start of the match and that was Pep's strategy that was successfully implemented when they beat Real Madrid in the second leg of the semi-final at the Etihad Stadium.

What I expect from Inter is a high level of motivation fueled by the immense support from fans in Italy to end the drought of European titles for an Italian team. With such motivation, the spirit of Inter to play with dominance is likely to emerge right from the start of the match.
Inter Milan still has to play one more game in Serie A and Inzaghi must really pay attention to the condition of the players who will be installed in order to avoid injury considering that the match vs Torino will no longer have a big effect on the standings because the points earned are already safe in the top four.

The high motivation of the Inter Milan players against Manchester City is a valuable capital to be able to improve mentality, but Simone Inzaghi must be able to apply the philosophy of Italian football against Manhester City in the UEFA Champions League Final at the Ataturk Olympic Stadium so that it doesn't become like the final incident between Liverpool vs AC Milan on year 2005.

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June 03, 2023, 11:09:07 AM
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The dominance of Manchester City in the Premier League in recent years bothers me a bit. Two seasons ago, the championship they won from Liverpool in the last game made me a little sad. Then the title they won from Arsenal this season reminded me of the same thing. I have to admit, I don't like them dominating the Premier League, but I want them to win this trophy. Because they want this trophy very much and although they came close to this trophy several times, they could not win this trophy. If I remember correctly, they lost to Chelsea in the final in the 2020/2021 season, they lost to Real Madrid in the semi-finals last year, Real Madrid won the cup last year. I may be getting a little sentimental about the subject. But I think most football fans will support Manchester City in this final.

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June 03, 2023, 11:29:58 AM
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If I remember correctly, they lost to Chelsea in the final in the 2020/2021 season, they lost to Real Madrid in the semi-finals last year, Real Madrid won the cup last year. I may be getting a little sentimental about the subject. But I think most football fans will support Manchester City in this final.
That was the time Manchester City play without Haaland, in this season Manchester City already find it's missing piece, they lack of pure striker and now they're become stronger. Manchester City now is just like the past prime Barcelona where there was no worthy club can compete them.

It obvious Manchester City will win, but I really curious which player will win the Ballon d'Or, it should be Haaland, but I guess Messi will win due to dedication and popularity.

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June 03, 2023, 11:49:52 AM
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Without a doubt Manchester city should be the favorite to get the win on the upcoming final, Inter Milan is a great team but I think many did not saw them reaching the final at the beginning of the tournament, so they have been playing at a level higher than the expectations people had of them, but Manchester city was always one of the favorites and with the dominant victory they got over the current champions then this does nothing more but to increase the belief people have they are the team that should be the favorite on the final.
Intermilan just become better and better since the groupstage. I remember if intermilan was almost out from the UCL before but it was able making comeback.

Intermilan just learn from the past experience and it's not trying to be even better and better. I have no doubt if people were picking city in this match but inter fans are still supporting them to win the match even though the chance is quite small for intermilan to make it happen. Inter will not able to do that without getting miracle. The match will be coming in less than 10 days from now.

I hope that the final gonna be a sensational match. It's not clear what strategy that will be used by intermilan against manchester city.

Offiensive or defense. We will see that when we will very close to the match.

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Last edit: June 03, 2023, 01:04:59 PM by asriloni
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I think Inter Milan will have to play completely defensively from the start. If they suddenly get a chance, it is possible to break Manchester City's attack through counter attack. As Inter Milan have players like Lautaro Martinez and Lukaku in attack.

Intermilan is quite often played defensively against a team that played fully offensive. It seems like that what you have said will come true. Intermilan has no choice other than playing defensively and using counter attack as away to threatening manchester city.
Inzaghi's team has a very good counter attack with some best players in the world like lukaku and martinez played in the front line. I must say that even though manchester city had a very strong defensive line and it doesn't mean if intermilan has no chance to make score against it.
inzaghi will be fully thinking about which was effective strategy to face intermilan. In my opinion if this is very important thing caused by wrongly deciding the best strategy for intermilan will be result in a big loss against city.
City can convert any chance into the goal. that's the main problem that must be prevented by it. In my opinion that if this time intermilan is trying so hard to prepare everything against city.
The last match that will determine the winner of UCL this season.


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June 03, 2023, 01:52:46 PM
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If I remember correctly, they lost to Chelsea in the final in the 2020/2021 season, they lost to Real Madrid in the semi-finals last year, Real Madrid won the cup last year. I may be getting a little sentimental about the subject. But I think most football fans will support Manchester City in this final.
That was the time Manchester City play without Haaland, in this season Manchester City already find it's missing piece, they lack of pure striker and now they're become stronger. Manchester City now is just like the past prime Barcelona where there was no worthy club can compete them.

It obvious Manchester City will win, but I really curious which player will win the Ballon d'Or, it should be Haaland, but I guess Messi will win due to dedication and popularity.
If I'm not mistaken at that time Manchester city still relied on Gabriel Jesus as a pure striker, it's just that Gabriel Jesus doesn't support much in terms of posture if he becomes player number 9. Now with Haaland all the problems in Manchester city have been solved and even his role as number 9 irreplaceable. Indeed, at this time Manchester City is so terrible and reminds us of Barcelona, which was very feared in European competition. Haaland deserves to win the Ballon d'or, but it seems that it would be very impossible if Lionel Messi was still in Europe.

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June 03, 2023, 01:57:22 PM
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I think Inter Milan will have to play completely defensively from the start. If they suddenly get a chance, it is possible to break Manchester City's attack through counter attack. As Inter Milan have players like Lautaro Martinez and Lukaku in attack.

Intermilan is quite often played defensively against a team that played fully offensive. It seems like that what you have said will come true. Intermilan has no choice other than playing defensively and using counter attack as away to threatening manchester city.
Inzaghi's team has a very good counter attack with some best players in the world like lukaku and martinez played in the front line. I must say that even though manchester city had a very strong defensive line and it doesn't mean if intermilan has no chance to make score against it.
inzaghi will be fully thinking about which was effective strategy to face intermilan. In my opinion if this is very important thing caused by wrongly deciding the best strategy for intermilan will be result in a big loss against city.
City can convert any chance into the goal. that's the main problem that must be prevented by it. In my opinion that if this time intermilan is trying so hard to prepare everything against city.
The last match that will determine the winner of UCL this season.


But I think Manchester City will be able to beat Inter Milan. Because the Manchester City team has been performing incredibly well, they have been able to beat teams like Real Madrid by huge margins. From all aspects, it is clear that the Manchester City team is ahead of the title.

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June 03, 2023, 01:59:23 PM
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Correct. We really can't underestimate Inter Milan. Even though there is a difference in strength between Man City and Inter Milan. And I also agree that Man City is indeed superior to Inter Milan. But in the world of football we are used to seeing surprising results in important matches. so that even in the UCL final, we can see surprising results.
When a club go to a final match after many tough matches, they actually have some good skills which helped them survive and win over other oppositions. Inter Milan were underestimated in some previous phases even when they met Porto and AC Milan, after all they knew how to score goals and to protect their goals very well. They can repeat it in the final match but surely they are weaker than Manchester City.
Well right. that's what i meant too. Inter Milan can even beat the 2 best teams from the Portuguese League competition. namely Benfica and Porto at UCL. Even in the quarter-finals, I personally underestimated Inter Milan a little, because at that time I had the advantage over Benfica. But it turns out I was wrong. Because Inter Milan could beat Benfica in front of the Benfica supporters themselves. and then held Benfica to a draw in the second leg. this is what surprised me and no longer dare to underestimate Inter Milan.

yes, but let's remember that Manchester City destroyed Real Madrid, which is certainly not a trivial team

I think, rightly, that the cup belongs to Manchester City and that the real final has already been played, Manchester City - Real Madrid
I'm still perplexed as to why people believe Inter Milan can defeat Manchester City. If you pay close attention to the game, Madrid and Manchester City's second leg, you will see that no matter how hard Madrid tries to stop City from scoring but it was one impossible task, that is exactly what will happen. As for the cup, I personally have a strong belief that Manchester City will win the trophy because the only problem they had was Madrid, and they are already out. Furthermore, the way Manchester City attacks is unique, making it difficult to stop their attacks.

Well I know that too. And of course I also favored Man City in the Champions League Final match against Inter Milan. But I just don't want to underestimate Inter Milan who are also quite famous for their very solid defense. But if we talk about the overall quality of the game, Man City is indeed far superior and above Inter Milan without even a doubt. But we also have to remember in the Champions League Final 2 seasons ago when Man City, who was the favourite, lost to Chelsea at that time.

But at that time Man City did not yet have a goalscoring machine that was always hungry for goals like Haaland. And this season, Man City is much stronger than in previous seasons. So I understand if we all feel confident that Man City will win the Trophy this season.

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June 03, 2023, 02:02:12 PM
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If I remember correctly, they lost to Chelsea in the final in the 2020/2021 season, they lost to Real Madrid in the semi-finals last year, Real Madrid won the cup last year. I may be getting a little sentimental about the subject. But I think most football fans will support Manchester City in this final.
That was the time Manchester City play without Haaland, in this season Manchester City already find it's missing piece, they lack of pure striker and now they're become stronger. Manchester City now is just like the past prime Barcelona where there was no worthy club can compete them.
It makes sense actually when Haaland arrival makes the attack more effective. The reason is, Haaland has fast skills in receiving the ball, a more ideal body posture, and the ingenuity of other colleagues such as Kevin De Bruyne, Grealish and Bernando Silva, who were installed by Pep Guardiola to support Haaland more freely. Now, when Manchester City has found the missing piece, now out of a total of 26 matches in the Premier League, they have only lost 1 time. indicates how difficult it is for opponents to penetrate the defense built by Pep. To the extent that the Champions League was proven again when it beat Madrid. Now Inter is increasingly cornered and required to be able to offset the strength of Manchester City.

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June 03, 2023, 02:17:05 PM
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It makes sense actually when Haaland arrival makes the attack more effective. The reason is, Haaland has fast skills in receiving the ball, a more ideal body posture, and the ingenuity of other colleagues such as Kevin De Bruyne, Grealish and Bernando Silva, who were installed by Pep Guardiola to support Haaland more freely.
Haaland came and helped Manchester City to have some more options for their attacking system and to score goals. The striker helps them to have more direct attacking power and sometimes can play as a decoy and mislead opponent defenders, then other attacking players from Manchester City can have opportunities and score goals. In general Haaland helps Manchester City becomes a more dangerous club in attacking.

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Now, when Manchester City has found the missing piece, now out of a total of 26 matches in the Premier League, they have only lost 1 time. indicates how difficult it is for opponents to penetrate the defense built by Pep. To the extent that the Champions League was proven again when it beat Madrid. Now Inter is increasingly cornered and required to be able to offset the strength of Manchester City.
Inter Milan still have chance because Manchester City did not win all their matches in Premier League. They have 28 won, 5 draw, 5 lost after 38 matches in this season. There are at least 10 matches they could not win in Premier League and not all those matches are from big clubs.

Inter Milan can take it as part of their confidence in the final match but they will certainly face with big pressure from Manchester City attacking players. The final match will be very long for Inter Milan players as they are a weaker team.
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June 03, 2023, 02:26:40 PM
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I think the vast majority of neutral fans (who didn't even make a bet) would be happy for Inter to win because it would mean City's defeat. Nobody likes money bags, plus many initially give sympathy to an outsider. This final will be watched by many with the hope that the fact that the weaker/poorer has a chance to win will happen.
Betting for Inter Milan is indeed more tempting. But as someone who prefers to be on the Man City side. of course I still prefer to see Man City win this match. And of course I also prefer to bet on Man City.
But if im are on a neutral side then maybe I would prefer to Inter Milan. Because unexpectedly Inter Milan might win the game. Although it's a small chance but it's worth hoping for.

For now, I want to see how Pep Guardiola's team fights Man United in the FA CUP Final. whether they will win or vice versa. this will also be useful as a benchmark for Man City's ability in the UCL Final.

I don't think that if we think logically, we can somehow correlate the result of this game with the Champions League final, as these are completely different competitions and different levels of stress. But I have a certain puzzle in my head and it seems to me that if City wins today, then their chances of taking the Champions League title will become less (well, they can’t win everything - there must be some kind of win limit  Grin ). City opened the scoring in the first minute and I don't believe United can have a good game with such a bad start.

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June 03, 2023, 02:27:49 PM
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But I think Manchester City will be able to beat Inter Milan. Because the Manchester City team has been performing incredibly well, they have been able to beat teams like Real Madrid by huge margins. From all aspects, it is clear that the Manchester City team is ahead of the title.
Guardiola has a vision and mission for the treble winner at the moment they are facing Manchester United and winning in the early minutes, I think if they manage to win the FA of course they will target the UCL later against Intermilan, Manchester city really plays more pressing too seriously so it seems nothing is can stop them.

Guardiola made a good strategy to face every opponent that is in their way to get the treble winner this season, I don't think Intermilan can be seeded against Manchester City even though the Odds for Intermilan are very high and tempting because they have a chance to win because they are playing in the final.

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