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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
Total Voters: 147

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June 03, 2023, 07:09:54 PM
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On paper City is much stronger than Inter, that's why we believe that Pep Guardiola will bring his team to win this final match. doesn't mean we underestimate Inter Milan. but if we talk based on statistics and data, City is far superior to Inter.

I don't think anyone underestimates Inter, it just shows the difference between the two teams. Never in recent years has there been such a gap in quality between the two teams in a Champions League final. There are few teams in the world that can stand against such a strong Manchester City, and Inter is not one of them. I expect a domination that we are not used to seeing in the final matches. There is not much Inter can do. The fact that Manchester City has not won this trophy before creates the expectation that they will play very seriously. If there was a team full of trophies against them, like Real Madrid, Inter might have a small chance, we can say that they have no chance in their current state.
Agree with what you say because it would be very funny to make it seem as if Inter is weak in this regard but indeed when it comes to speculation it is quite clear that in this case everyone is free to have an opinion and regarding the current data when looking at the performance and statistics between Manchester City and During this season, there are still quite clear differences between the two clubs.

It's not that Inter are weak in this regard, it's just that Manchester City are much better in any case. It's still possible for the game to be fierce at the moment but on the other hand this still doesn't cloud the fact that Manchester City are the favorites in this final as everyone knows that.
Even though Inter have a chance to win in this match because it's 90 minutes later we don't know, but another possibility for Manchester City to win is bigger than Inter.

I think you can refer to it from a broader point of view than the words "it doesn't mean we underestimate Inter" if you priming that meaning, then the point of view is that Inter is a weak team. but if we refer to a broader meaning, I have described it in the previous post. but since the post is cropped in half, the assumptions can be wild. in that post, I'm just trying to compare based on the statistics of the two teams that will compete in the Champions League final based on my personal point of view. after all, even if someone belittled Inter, it was their right to have an opinion and assume.

In principle, we have in common that Manchester City is much better in every way. anyway, I have explained it in the previous post. so, what did you guys say in this thread. point, the same as I described in several previous posts. in essence, the probability that City has is far greater than Inter Milan. although, in football anything can happen.

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June 03, 2023, 08:37:26 PM
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No team reaches the Champions League final by chance or luck. Every team in the final is there because of its qualities, and no Champions League finalist should ever be underestimated.
Manchester City made that mistake a few years ago in the final against Chelsea and I don't think it will happen again.
Inter showed that they have a very good defense and if they manage to withstand the initial attacks and the pressure of Manchester City, as the match goes towards the end, their chances of winning will increase.
I believe that a very interesting and uncertain final awaits us.
City often makes surprise attacks when the game starts. at the start of the first and second half. it's like they did in today's FA Cup final against Man United. City won 2-1 and that is one step closer to City getting three trophies this season which is amazing for them.
now it's just the Champions League Final, and they are very excited about their best season yet. City is partying over the victory from Man United. but they are still waiting for their big party when they close the season with 3 trophies.
Manchester city are always too good , I won't be surprise seeing them winning champions league finals.  As this season is concerned Manchester city can win every trophy. Champions league can never be hard for Manchester city, Manchester City have been able to challenge all strong teams this season, inters won't be tough for them.
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June 03, 2023, 10:12:35 PM
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Manchester City have boosted their morale even more by winning the FA Cup finale today. They have made the number of titles they have got so far 2. This is their chance to end the season with 3 titles which would be an extraordinary situation for them. There is no Champions League title in the team history yet in the end.

Ilkay Gundogan came one step forward today by his amazing goals. He took a big responsibility as the captain of the team and Guardiola looks very happy to have him as well. But his contract is still running out though. It is still good to see how dedicated he is now. Because not all players would care about doing his best while they are about to leave the team in a short time.

Imagining Gundogan, De Bruyne, Silva and Haaland playing impressively against Inter, I think there is no way Inter would find a way out of that.

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June 03, 2023, 11:28:24 PM
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If they want to beat Manchester City, Inter Milan will have to play the best match in their history. Also luck should be on Inter Milan's side. Otherwise, I think it will be difficult to beat a team like Manchester City. Because every player from attack to defense of Manchester City has their best performance.
Inter Milan is also very aware that Manchester City is indeed in very good form this season and this has indeed been proven by Manchester City through the two trophies that Manchester City has won through competitions in their own country. So if Inter Milan can't stop Manchester City from winning in the Champions League final this season, Manchester City will be a very successful team by winning three trophies at once this season even though it must also be said to be natural because Manchester City has more great players and also very compact in every match.
But seeing Inter Milan achievements in Serie A this season are also quite good, they have also just secured the Italian Cup trophy. So these two teams both secured trophies in their respective leagues before they competed in the champions league final. Seeing the depth of the squads of these two teams, of course they have different qualities. Even though Manchester City is superior in terms of its players, I don't think that will make it difficult for Inter Milan to give resistance to Manchester City.

Inter milan is a team with long experience in the champions league and they have won the champions league trophy 3 times. Will they succeed in holding Manchester City and thwarting Manchester City mission to get the UCL trophy for the first time?

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June 03, 2023, 11:30:54 PM
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But I think Manchester City will be able to beat Inter Milan. Because the Manchester City team has been performing incredibly well, they have been able to beat teams like Real Madrid by huge margins. From all aspects, it is clear that the Manchester City team is ahead of the title.
City's chance to win the game is quite big but it doesn't mean if the match will be running easily for manchester city. Im sure that intermilan is also preparing everything to face city in turkey soon.
The chance is still half half for city and intermilan at this moment. City has more probability to win in the final of UCL.

I think that you can't put anyteam in the same performance. Madrid performed so badly but it doesn't mean if intermilan will be doing the same thing like marid.
you must remember it.

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June 03, 2023, 11:58:07 PM
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City is stronger, it's hard to argue with this, and if you look at how unstable Inter played in Serie A, this also speaks in City's favor, but I want to say that in the final, Inter can surprise. It’s not worth talking about their good defense, because even the best defense is hard to play against City, so I think that City will score in the final, and everything will depend on Inter’s attack, how well they can realize their chances.

Several trophies have been won by Manchester City and the most important target they will try to bring home the champions trophy and try as much as possible, Manchster City is a strong team he has some top players who have led them to the final so far, but I think Inter will too do the best you can because considering this is a very important trophy, these two have a chance in fighting for it.

Manchester City really looks very strong this season, he was able to overthrow all his rivals and even got several trophies this season, they have been able to secure the FA, as well as their Premier League which is leading, but if you look at Inter's game in the Serie A League which is not consistently will benefit Man City here, but This is a very important Champions League for both of them, logically they will try their best to come out as trophy winners this season.
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June 04, 2023, 02:04:21 AM
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yes you are right. And maybe Newcastle will be at a level closer to Man City next season. What I like about Man City is when they target a player. then they will try to get it to the maximum even at a higher price though. Now the difference between Chelsea and Man City is here. That is, we know that in the transfer market before last season started, we witnessed a phenomenon where wealthy clubs gave up too easily in the race for players. even some players didn't get Chelsea just because Chelsea acted as if they were having financial difficulties even though they were a rich club. but they dare not pay more for the players they need. and on the contrary, the big club from Spain, namely Barcelona, ​​​​they were currently in a financial crisis, but they still dared to pay high prices to get the players they needed. and this paid off with Barcelona's success in lifting the Laliga trophy. So I hope Chelsea don't save too much money in the upcoming transfer market. because this club really has to have a lot of changes in the club and of course it costs a lot.

Keep in mind that the clubs aren't pretending they are poor or anything like that. There is too much information available about the new owners anyway, like in the case of Chelsea. I think they are more afraid of getting wrecked by any Financial Fair Play rules although I have no clue whether those rules are even applied considering that Chelsea invested over half a billion within a single year. They invested over half a billion net in transfers, not that they also sold players and they could deduct some of that sum. It could be negotiation tactics, but in the end other clubs know as well what Chelsea is able to and what their max would be if they want a player.

You say that you hope they don't save too much money in the upcoming transfer market. Did Chelsea ever save too much money? That must have been in a time before I was born. Cheesy

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June 04, 2023, 02:17:31 AM
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City's chance to win the game is quite big but it doesn't mean if the match will be running easily for manchester city. Im sure that intermilan is also preparing everything to face city in turkey soon.
The chance is still half half for city and intermilan at this moment. City has more probability to win in the final of UCL.

I think that you can't put anyteam in the same performance. Madrid performed so badly but it doesn't mean if intermilan will be doing the same thing like marid.
you must remember it.
You don't win a match and take a title because you are a stronger team and considered to have big chance to win it. Manchester City actually are stronger and people believe if they could beat Real Madrid 4 - 0, they can easily beat Inter Milan. It is logic but football match result is not decided by logic, it decides by coaches, players and referee. 22 players and more if we count substitutions, 2 coaches and only one main referee but the referee can decide the match by his decision on field.

Inter Milan are good enough to exploit Manchester City defense and win the final by their own good effort but the referee can help them too. I don't know will the referee have the neutral performance for both teams in the match or will be skewed in either Manchester City or Inter Milan.

Manchester City really looks very strong this season, he was able to overthrow all his rivals and even got several trophies this season, they have been able to secure the FA, as well as their Premier League which is leading, but if you look at Inter's game in the Serie A League which is not consistently will benefit Man City here, but This is a very important Champions League for both of them, logically they will try their best to come out as trophy winners this season.
Such seasons barely happen even for big clubs and Manchester City have one of best seasons in their club history. They only need to win one last match to have a perfect season and go into history not only of Manchester City but of Premier League too.

Winning 3 titles in a season is very hard and very few clubs got it in history. Pep Guardiola have a season when he won 6 titles with Barcelona but he has never won any more Champions League after that. It would be perfect for him if a first season he wins Champions League again is a season he win three titles with Manchester City.

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June 04, 2023, 03:50:12 AM
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But Manchester City also cannot be complacent and underestimate Inter Milan because they have also appeared strong enough in several matches so that a mature strategy must really be used by Pep Guardiola to make Manchester City able to beat him.
Inter Milan are enjoying a very fine form currently winning eleven out of the last twelve games, and this is a very good way to head into the Champions League final against Manchester City with the kind of confidence that a winning streak brings, giving hope to the supporters. Manchester City right now is also a very confident and motivated team now with two titles to their name this season they will want to make it three to have it all. Inter Milan can win if they play a confident game against Manchester City, they can force Manchester City players to make mistakes if they play the way they have been playing this season with them having the ability to quickly turn defence into attack.
I actually thought that the two teams would start aggressively at the start of the match by trying to score first so that one of them would get the advantage, then after that they would use a defensive strategy so that the advantage would not be equalized.
That way, whoever scores first has the greatest chance of winning because he already has the advantage at the start.
This is a very important final match and the title that every team craves.
If in the first half Manchester City can get at least 1 goal without a goal scored by Inter Milan, I'm sure they will really maintain that 1 goal advantage until the match is over.
My prediction is that this final match will end with a score of 1 - 0 victory for Manchester City.

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June 04, 2023, 04:43:48 AM
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yes you are right. And maybe Newcastle will be at a level closer to Man City next season. What I like about Man City is when they target a player. then they will try to get it to the maximum even at a higher price though. Now the difference between Chelsea and Man City is here. That is, we know that in the transfer market before last season started, we witnessed a phenomenon where wealthy clubs gave up too easily in the race for players. even some players didn't get Chelsea just because Chelsea acted as if they were having financial difficulties even though they were a rich club. but they dare not pay more for the players they need. and on the contrary, the big club from Spain, namely Barcelona, ​​​​they were currently in a financial crisis, but they still dared to pay high prices to get the players they needed. and this paid off with Barcelona's success in lifting the Laliga trophy. So I hope Chelsea don't save too much money in the upcoming transfer market. because this club really has to have a lot of changes in the club and of course it costs a lot.

Keep in mind that the clubs aren't pretending they are poor or anything like that. There is too much information available about the new owners anyway, like in the case of Chelsea. I think they are more afraid of getting wrecked by any Financial Fair Play rules although I have no clue whether those rules are even applied considering that Chelsea invested over half a billion within a single year. They invested over half a billion net in transfers, not that they also sold players and they could deduct some of that sum. It could be negotiation tactics, but in the end other clubs know as well what Chelsea is able to and what their max would be if they want a player.

You say that you hope they don't save too much money in the upcoming transfer market. Did Chelsea ever save too much money? That must have been in a time before I was born. Cheesy
Do you not remember when Chelsea continued to experience defeat in the hunt for players in the transfer market before last season started. in fact everyone seems to know about Chelsea who always dared not pay more than other clubs at that time. So that many players failed to get by Chelsea in the hunt for players in the transfer market at that time.

But when Chelsea got a new coach (potter), then only then did I see Chelsea spending a lot of money to buy a lot of players in the mid-season transfer market. And I even thought at the time 'why didn't Chelsea do this earlier in the transfer market? (spending a lot of money to get the players they needed before the season started). because getting a lot of players in the middle of the season isn't it a bit late then?

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June 04, 2023, 04:54:46 AM
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But I think Manchester City will be able to beat Inter Milan. Because the Manchester City team has been performing incredibly well, they have been able to beat teams like Real Madrid by huge margins. From all aspects, it is clear that the Manchester City team is ahead of the title.
City's chance to win the game is quite big but it doesn't mean if the match will be running easily for manchester city. Im sure that intermilan is also preparing everything to face city in turkey soon.
The chance is still half half for city and intermilan at this moment. City has more probability to win in the final of UCL.

I think that you can't put anyteam in the same performance. Madrid performed so badly but it doesn't mean if intermilan will be doing the same thing like marid.
you must remember it.

in other words surprises do happen. true?
even though there are a lot of them and it's true that Man City's current performance strength is really strong, but Inter Milan will definitely try to make it difficult for Man City to win the UCL title this season.
it is impossible if Inter Milan just resignedly competes without expecting victory. well, with this hope indirectly Inter's strength will definitely increase and be very careful in carrying out the strategy given by the coach.
and on the one hand Man City understands this situation and Man City will also play carefully because the UCL trophy is in sight which must belong to Man City in several years who have never won this champion league.
this UCL final match will be very tight and interesting to watch and if you want to bet on this match, choose the safest option.

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June 04, 2023, 05:40:35 AM
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Manchester City have boosted their morale even more by winning the FA Cup finale today. They have made the number of titles they have got so far 2. This is their chance to end the season with 3 titles which would be an extraordinary situation for them. There is no Champions League title in the team history yet in the end.
I'm not really sure if winning the Premier League and FA Cup can be a morale boost for Manchester City's players, I think Manchester City's players would be have a high self confident and they think they will win the Champions League. They're not underestimating Inter and not trying hard, but you know such thought could ruin them.

The winning of Manchester City in FA Cup isn't really a domination win, they just win with small margin and Manchester United still able to compete them.

There's still a chance Inter could beat Manchester City.
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I think Inter milan will feel less confident after knowing that Manchester city has just won the title in their country with only 12 seconds to score.
Manchester city's success has indirectly reduced the mentality of the Inter Milan players because it seems like it will be very difficult to win this match while City's performance is very strong.
I agree with you. Inter meeting with Manchester city for the Champions league final I know they will feel intimidated knowing how good Manchester City is, this will be a weak point for Inter Milan.  I don't think Inter milan are good to stop Manchester City, Manchester city is far better than Inter Milan.

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I think Inter milan will feel less confident after knowing that Manchester city has just won the title in their country with only 12 seconds to score.
Manchester city's success has indirectly reduced the mentality of the Inter Milan players because it seems like it will be very difficult to win this match while City's performance is very strong.
I agree with you. Inter meeting with Manchester city for the Champions league final I know they will feel intimidated knowing how good Manchester City is, this will be a weak point for Inter Milan.  I don't think Inter milan are good to stop Manchester City, Manchester city is far better than Inter Milan.

Manchester City have managed to win two titles so far this season. If this team can secure the Champions League title, the team coach Pep Guardiola will be able to make a special record this time.

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June 04, 2023, 06:58:45 AM
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Do you not remember when Chelsea continued to experience defeat in the hunt for players in the transfer market before last season started. in fact everyone seems to know about Chelsea who always dared not pay more than other clubs at that time. So that many players failed to get by Chelsea in the hunt for players in the transfer market at that time.

But when Chelsea got a new coach (potter), then only then did I see Chelsea spending a lot of money to buy a lot of players in the mid-season transfer market. And I even thought at the time 'why didn't Chelsea do this earlier in the transfer market? (spending a lot of money to get the players they needed before the season started). because getting a lot of players in the middle of the season isn't it a bit late then?

Definitely a bit late but who knows what the reasons were why Chelsea didn't spend in the right moment. They have never been known for not spending a lot of money. There must have been some reasons or things going on that the public doesn't know of. Was it still the time when Abramowitsch had control over the club that you think they missed to spend money in the right time?

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June 04, 2023, 07:02:30 AM
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I think Inter milan will feel less confident after knowing that Manchester city has just won the title in their country with only 12 seconds to score.
Manchester city's success has indirectly reduced the mentality of the Inter Milan players because it seems like it will be very difficult to win this match while City's performance is very strong.

I don't think so. It seems like that intermilan is still feeling even better since the club knows that if intermilan was just winning the second trophy for this season. It was increasing the spirit from all of players to beat the best club in the world this season.
Manchester city needs to be careful even though city is best team in the world but it must take intermilan as a strong opponent as well. The squad of simeone inzaghi must not be underestimated.
City and intermilan will have been preparing themselves for the most important match this month.
Intermilan is also seeking the second trophy for this season. The competition between inter vs manchester city will be very strict.
Im sure that inter milan is now willing to give up easily against manchester city. Inter is a black horse in this match while city becomes most favorite club by all of people to win the match.

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June 04, 2023, 08:12:22 AM
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Haaland came and helped Manchester City to have some more options for their attacking system and to score goals. The striker helps them to have more direct attacking power and sometimes can play as a decoy and mislead opponent defenders, then other attacking players from Manchester City can have opportunities and score goals. In general Haaland helps Manchester City becomes a more dangerous club in attacking.
Of course the goal contribution from Haaland was part of bringing Manchester City to the top of the standings. The bottom line is everyone involved in the team has done very well so far. Pep Guardiola's management is really in full cohesiveness. Encouraged by the second trophy, they want the target of the Champions League trophy that is already in sight. With an increasingly resounding mentality, it will greatly support the Manchester City players in controlling the game.

Seeing Manchester United unable to thwart Manchester City in the FA CUP, Inter is the last hope so that the Trable Winner does not really fall into the hands of Manchester City. Even though the chances are quite slim, I still hope that Inter can surprise, at least they are not caught off guard by surprise attacks at the start of the match like against Manchester United.

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June 04, 2023, 10:33:53 AM
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Man city is definitely likely to win the final match.  Because Inter is not yet strong enough that they can beat Mam city in the final match.  In other normal matches, maybe a team like Inter can beat them because of man city's unconscious play.  However, Man city will not play unconsciously in the final match, they must actively play the match, so it does not seem that Inter Milan can win the final match of the Champions League.  However, Inter is offering high odds, anyone can get Hughes if they can be bet and win here, but the chances are very low.

I read such comments about Inter when they played Barcelona and just as few people believed that they could beat Benfica, but in the end Inter is in the final and they are definitely not to be underestimated.

City is stronger, it's hard to argue with this, and if you look at how unstable Inter played in Serie A, this also speaks in City's favor, but I want to say that in the final, Inter can surprise. It’s not worth talking about their good defense, because even the best defense is hard to play against City, so I think that City will score in the final, and everything will depend on Inter’s attack, how well they can realize their chances.
I was thinking that Manchester City is 100% unbeatable, but after watching the English FA Cup final between Manchester City and Manchester United and saw how Manchester United were able to contain Manchester City, even though they lost the match in the end Manchester United was able to be in the game even as they conceived early goal.
This made me understand that if Inter Milan put more of little effort than they used to, it will be quite difficult for Manchester City to win the Champions League.

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June 04, 2023, 11:39:26 AM
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I think Inter milan will feel less confident after knowing that Manchester city has just won the title in their country with only 12 seconds to score.
Manchester city's success has indirectly reduced the mentality of the Inter Milan players because it seems like it will be very difficult to win this match while City's performance is very strong.

I don't think so. Sometime the more achievements achieved by a competitor may pumped ourselves to have big motivation to be even better. I think that if intermilan has a very strong motivation to beat manchester city soon. it's likely that if intermilan will be preparing the best squads to face manchester city. One of most awaited match to come this month. I can't be patience to see lukaku to face manchester city again since he was moving out from manchester united and chelsea to the intermilan.

im very glad if lukaku and intermilan will come to the ataturk stadium with the best performance. I knew that as a team that was going to the final and the club must be considered since the group stages and surprisingly intermilan did it.

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June 04, 2023, 11:47:44 AM
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Man city is definitely likely to win the final match.  Because Inter is not yet strong enough that they can beat Mam city in the final match.  In other normal matches, maybe a team like Inter can beat them because of man city's unconscious play.  However, Man city will not play unconsciously in the final match, they must actively play the match, so it does not seem that Inter Milan can win the final match of the Champions League.  However, Inter is offering high odds, anyone can get Hughes if they can be bet and win here, but the chances are very low.

I read such comments about Inter when they played Barcelona and just as few people believed that they could beat Benfica, but in the end Inter is in the final and they are definitely not to be underestimated.

City is stronger, it's hard to argue with this, and if you look at how unstable Inter played in Serie A, this also speaks in City's favor, but I want to say that in the final, Inter can surprise. It’s not worth talking about their good defense, because even the best defense is hard to play against City, so I think that City will score in the final, and everything will depend on Inter’s attack, how well they can realize their chances.
I was thinking that Manchester City is 100% unbeatable, but after watching the English FA Cup final between Manchester City and Manchester United and saw how Manchester United were able to contain Manchester City, even though they lost the match in the end Manchester United was able to be in the game even as they conceived early goal.
This made me understand that if Inter Milan put more of little effort than they used to, it will be quite difficult for Manchester City to win the Champions League.

That was one of the poorest game we've seen Man City playing but they still won regardless
Now the Champions league is already sealed they just have to be focused
Inter Milan are good defensively they also have a crotain which we have see amongst some of the past team who already won the Champions league. Milan has potential to win too

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