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August 08, 2022, 10:59:29 PM
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When we try to look at games that could future as sports, I think Cheers, Draft and Scrabble fits perfectly. Although, they are not traditional casino games but these games are hosted and they are relaxing as much as they are entertaining and cracks you up. It pushes your limit of anticipation and calculations on ways to guide yourself.
Only disadvantage and o suppose accounts for some of the reasons is not most suitable for casino games is the timing it takes to finish a round. They remain some cool and competitive games around that could exercise the brain.
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August 08, 2022, 11:14:20 PM
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I am not a poker player I find it mentally challenging but all my friends who play poker think that it should be categorized as a mental sport because its mentally exhausting yes there are situations where you depend on luck but if you're against an individual its a battle between mental toughness that is why we have this poker face look you try to look not to look you are in a bad card and that's a tough task to make and mentally challenging so I treat it as a mental sport.

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August 08, 2022, 11:46:16 PM
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Yup, you cannot categorize Poker as completely as a Luck-Based games rather it is a combination of skill and luck as the cards that you'll be receiving is the real deciding factor whether you win or not.

Professional poker players are there as they are able to turn things the other way either they a bad card or a good card. However, they still lose once they encounter someone who has an incredible card which is purely based on luck.
It might've been considered luck only if there were no other players or if rounds can last up to only so long but no, games could last to pretty lengthy times afaik, especially on a professional level. It's also brutal tbf, since even if we do consider that it isn't luck only, the fact stays that there will always be a factor of luck involved so you'd sometimes get hit on the ass without knowing. Other sports may be a grind but imo, but poker is also a grind. After all, it isn't a lottery game, it's a game where you play against other players and slowly take what's theirs for yours.

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August 09, 2022, 06:58:17 AM
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I am against such a classification.  In my opinion, even chess cannot be considered a sport. 

Sport is a competition in which participants win due to their physical qualities.  Inflated body, instant reaction, powerful muscles - these are the qualities of real athletes. 

And for example, the competition of rappers - musicians, chess players, poker players or the game of go - is not a sports competition. 

But now there are a lot of things in the world that are not based on logic.  This is sad.
Unfortunately, sports are now not limited to physical activities but rather it also involves skill-based games such as games. In this scenario, chess, pool and card games can now be included on sports classification.

Also, if you think about it, there are massive games that is also considered as sports that doesn't require physical exertion such as E-sports. Various things have through times and we should be able to adjust along with it.

For me, sport is the Olympic Games of the ancient Greeks. 

The sports disciplines of these competitions included running, various types of jumps, boxing, pankration, and chariot racing.  All these competitions required great physical effort. 

At the same time, many peoples of the world had complexes of physical exercises that had a military-applied orientation.... 

By the way, in addition to the Olympic (sports) games, the ancient Greeks also had separate competitions of musicians, thinkers, etc.  But it was no longer a sporting event! 

To some extent, this is now a political issue.  Powerful public-financial bureaucratic organizations seek to control as many human activities as possible (not only purely sports, but also e-sports, intellectual games, gambling, etc.) This is politics.

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August 10, 2022, 01:44:20 AM
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For now these are the ones that have official status considered sports.
  • Poker.
  • Billiards. Pool. Cue sports
Billiards mainly rely on skills though so it's not a surprise that it gets recognized while Poker, on the other hand, is the one that I didn't expect to be included, I know it's gaining popularity but it's nice to see a casino game eventually becomes a sport.

So, you think that other traditional games where you bet have that status.
What casino games are sports in your country?
There's none in my country since the other casino games we have here doesn't require skills unlike poker.

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August 10, 2022, 05:01:20 AM
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They call sports something that have physical presence and say include some skills involved to beat you opponent like poker is categorised under this while slots are more of luck based and are termed as pure gambling because you just need to be lucky for winning the game with some multiplier while others don't.

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August 10, 2022, 05:40:51 AM
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I am against such a classification.  In my opinion, even chess cannot be considered a sport. 

Sport is a competition in which participants win due to their physical qualities.  Inflated body, instant reaction, powerful muscles - these are the qualities of real athletes. 

And for example, the competition of rappers - musicians, chess players, poker players or the game of go - is not a sports competition. 

But now there are a lot of things in the world that are not based on logic.  This is sad.

What you said made me think a little. Which Chess cannot be said to be a sport. And I just noticed it now although it's been a while since it's true that most sports have a physical component like the Olympic marathon, Boxing, and so on. But boxing, Football games, and Basketball can also be used as gambling methods through betting, right? Also, does a Billiard sport as well?

So if chess and poker and billiards aren't sports, it's a talent to speak of, right? where the battle happens by using their minds on how to defeat their opponents through the strategies that a player will make. It seems a bit more tiring compared to the physical sports that most people know.


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August 10, 2022, 07:12:04 AM
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What you said made me think a little. Which Chess cannot be said to be a sport. And I just noticed it now although it's been a while since it's true that most sports have a physical component like the Olympic marathon, Boxing, and so on. But boxing, Football games, and Basketball can also be used as gambling methods through betting, right? Also, does a Billiard sport as well?

So if chess and poker and billiards aren't sports, it's a talent to speak of, right? where the battle happens by using their minds on how to defeat their opponents through the strategies that a player will make. It seems a bit more tiring compared to the physical sports that most people know.
Even if the competitions widely regarded as sports have a mental component, no matter how small it may be, I agree that a sport is a competition that relies mostly on the physical aspect of the person competing.

Any other competition with a similar format to a sport but in which the mental component is the most prevalent is a game of skill and nothing more, and we should not use the word sport at all when we describe them, so esports are just a video game skill competition while chess falls into the category of a board game skill competition.
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August 10, 2022, 09:46:01 AM
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I am against such a classification.  In my opinion, even chess cannot be considered a sport. 

Sport is a competition in which participants win due to their physical qualities.  Inflated body, instant reaction, powerful muscles - these are the qualities of real athletes. 

And for example, the competition of rappers - musicians, chess players, poker players or the game of go - is not a sports competition. 

But now there are a lot of things in the world that are not based on logic.  This is sad.

I am interested in your words, as for the changes that occur from each type of sport development, I think it has gone through the selection stage by involving elements of requirements that categorize it as part of sports.
chess, billiards, have met the requirements to associate it with the type of sport. I think today's sport does not only involve a lot of physical activity like most types of traditional sports.

I will give one example, chess, the reason why chess is considered a sport. Chess is a competitive game, chess requires physical fitness, chess requires skill, chess has rules and ethics.
from the points I mentioned, all of them meet the requirements to enter it in a sport. although I do agree that some casino games do not qualify to be part of the sport.

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August 10, 2022, 03:58:33 PM
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As for chess, without a doubt and definitely 99.99% accepted by the majority as a sport, such a position is absolutely reasonable and the reason is that everyone who has had the opportunity to play it from a competitive position or has the passion to follow it as an amateur understands it that way without Doubts.

With chess and perhaps in the face-to-face effect of the confrontation, it does not require a physical demonstration at the point of essence of win, then not determines by action or physical skill to overcome your opponent, but the rules and conditions of competition at the different levels of ability to play it in the confrontation of your rivals, add it similar to that competitive spirit that is sportsmanship.

 

Now you cannot cover "sport" with a finger, in the aforementioned phrase cover the "sun," so, in a general opinion and I think to close ideas:

I believe that the term "compete" in its essence is gaining ground on its qualifying to define "sport," with dexterity and ability.

That opinion expressed previously by me has had transformations over time, for example it is worth remembering that the pistol duel was considered an Olympic sport.(e.g.)

That example only as a reference of how the impartiality and personal opinion of what we believe to accept as a sport is not always or should be correct, even a group or federation that approves or disqualifies does not imply being right.


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August 10, 2022, 04:05:44 PM
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They call sports something that have physical presence and say include some skills involved to beat you opponent like poker is categorised under this while slots are more of luck based and are termed as pure gambling because you just need to be lucky for winning the game with some multiplier while others don't.

I think it will be more appropriate to consider poker games as mind game or strategic game because it only needs the presence of mind and strategy but I don't think they should be considered sports because it doesn't need physical strength and agility. It's a luck-based game that doesn't require physical activity.
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For now these are the ones that have official status considered sports.
  • Poker.
  • Billiards. Pool. Cue sports
Billiards mainly rely on skills though so it's not a surprise that it gets recognized while Poker, on the other hand, is the one that I didn't expect to be included, I know it's gaining popularity but it's nice to see a casino game eventually becomes a sport.

It turns out that before (once) billiards was considered a game of chance? I wonder on what basis - I can not find a single element in this game that depends on luck and not on skill. Then darts or archery can be considered gambling.
As far as poker is concerned, this is a controversial decision. After all, if we put 2 professionals against each other, then the outcome of their confrontation will be determined by luck, since poker has a rather limited set of tricks and strategies.
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August 11, 2022, 02:36:59 PM
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They call sports something that have physical presence and say include some skills involved to beat you opponent like poker is categorised under this while slots are more of luck based and are termed as pure gambling because you just need to be lucky for winning the game with some multiplier while others don't.

I think it will be more appropriate to consider poker games as mind game or strategic game because it only needs the presence of mind and strategy but I don't think they should be considered sports because it doesn't need physical strength and agility. It's a luck-based game that doesn't require physical activity.

CHESS players are waiving at you lol.
Poker isn't just a luck based game, it's a game of minds and guts.
A sport may not require physical activeness, just like Chess and Esports.
However, I never really considered poker as a sport though I've seen poker tournament, but poker is widely known to be a gambling activity.
Poker may only be considered as sport in the gambling industry.
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billiards and poker are sports in my country, where these two sports have different ways of dealing with their opponents, for example
Billiards is a sport that prioritizes skills in playing techniques,
but for poker itself in my country it is a sport that relies on chance, experience, intuition, patience, endurance, and pretending to read the opponent but the aspect of luck is very important in the poker game itself

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