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Author Topic: [Boxing]: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Jamaine Ortiz - October 29  (Read 5742 times)
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September 06, 2022, 05:07:56 AM
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As to this moment. I am more interested in who's next for Loma. Will it be for the undisputed championship as he is the WBO mandatory? Which means he is fighting the winner of Haney-Kambosos II. I wish Loma the best and everyone is curious how he looks like in his upcoming tune-up fight.

By the way, who's going to be the favorite between Haney and Loma? Maybe it depends on how they perform in their next fights? Personally, prime for prime I take Loma over Haney. But maybe Haney is yet to achieve his prime as he is still young while Loma is already in his mid 30's where his body might not be able to follow everything his mind wants.

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September 06, 2022, 09:33:35 AM
 #122

As to this moment. I am more interested in who's next for Loma. Will it be for the undisputed championship as he is the WBO mandatory? Which means he is fighting the winner of Haney-Kambosos II. I wish Loma the best and everyone is curious how he looks like in his upcoming tune-up fight.

By the way, who's going to be the favorite between Haney and Loma? Maybe it depends on how they perform in their next fights? Personally, prime for prime I take Loma over Haney. But maybe Haney is yet to achieve his prime as he is still young while Loma is already in his mid 30's where his body might not be able to follow everything his mind wants.

Yeah it depends if how they will perform from both upcoming fights, maybe they will favor Haney but I still

can't assume since Loma is well-known fighter and fans and gamblers will be on his side, though we will see if how both

finished their respective fights. Not to put Ortiz down but it seems that they just use him for Loma to rise back and

hypes his career.
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September 06, 2022, 12:21:46 PM
 #123

As to this moment. I am more interested in who's next for Loma. Will it be for the undisputed championship as he is the WBO mandatory? Which means he is fighting the winner of Haney-Kambosos II. I wish Loma the best and everyone is curious how he looks like in his upcoming tune-up fight.

By the way, who's going to be the favorite between Haney and Loma? Maybe it depends on how they perform in their next fights? Personally, prime for prime I take Loma over Haney. But maybe Haney is yet to achieve his prime as he is still young while Loma is already in his mid 30's where his body might not be able to follow everything his mind wants.

Yeah it depends if how they will perform from both upcoming fights, maybe they will favor Haney but I still

can't assume since Loma is well-known fighter and fans and gamblers will be on his side, though we will see if how both

finished their respective fights. Not to put Ortiz down but it seems that they just use him for Loma to rise back and

hypes his career.

Loma vs Haney, there's no underdog on that match. Well, maybe Haney is a slight underdog but I believe it will be a close fight, not like the fight of Haney against Kambosos where it was very disappointing to the fans since it was just a one-sided fight. Bob already said this fight will happen, so let's be optimistic with that.
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September 06, 2022, 04:33:50 PM
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As for Haney and Kambosos, the result is not determined yet but as for speculation, yes we might see a trilogy soon but Kambosos's chances is somehow lower compared to Haney. Kambosos will the same trouble piercing through the latter's defenses and he is not a KO artist, that makes the fight more harder.

Both Lomachenko and Haney are expected to win on their respective fights, that happened, we will see a big fight between them. Though I must say that Kambasos vs Haney is a big fight, but we cannot deny that people believe this fight is non sense as obviously Haney will still dominate again.

upset happens all the time, but with kambosos vs haney, i don't know if there will be upset this time. but anything can happen in the world of boxing. anyway, with the match between loma and ortiz, i am positive that loma will emerge as winner here. anyway, after knowing the results of their respective fights, that's when we can really speculate good, right?

Yes, anything can happen and we can't really know for sure if there will be some upset in Kambosos and Haney's rematch because I believe there won't be much of a difference this time, the latter will always find his own to dominate Kambosos that's why he is that confident to face Kambosos again in his own country and in front of his own people.

As for this fight between Loma and Ortiz, I think we can somehow say that this will be just a tune-up fight for Loma before he fights Haney soon and unfortunately for Ortiz, he will just be a ladder and a challenge that Loma will eventually survive.

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September 06, 2022, 05:22:05 PM
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Yes, no doubt about that! Lomachenko will surely look for that correct timing to provide his fans and the whole boxing industry a knockout victory in this fight, and for sure, it will definitely hype his name more to fight the undisputed boxer in this division because of that huge comeback he'll about to make. Also, there's a high chance that this fight will really end in a KO or TKO instead of decision.

And that's how fans expect him to finish this fight, bringing more talks about him after the fight. Loma knows how to delight his fans and with the help of social media he can really bring more hypes into his career. His promoters know how valuable Loma's name so for them to bring him again at the top they need to make sure that the fans will enjoy this fight. But we never know what Ortiz plan to do here it will be good if he will go toe-to-toe trying to throw good combination and counter punches to give himself a better chance to win, it's also a good chance for him in case upset happen with Loma.


Yes, anything can happen and we can't really know for sure if there will be some upset in Kambosos and Haney's rematch because I believe there won't be much of a difference this time, the latter will always find his own to dominate Kambosos that's why he is that confident to face Kambosos again in his own country and in front of his own people.

As for this fight between Loma and Ortiz, I think we can somehow say that this will be just a tune-up fight for Loma before he fights Haney soon and unfortunately for Ortiz, he will just be a ladder and a challenge that Loma will eventually survive.

A good ladder, but also a good way to bring his name on top. Inside this sport, upset happens and until there's no declare winner
anything is possible to happen. Ortiz needs to bring everything here. It's an opportunity for him, but for sure, more on Loma's comeback
and fans are aiming to see him challenging a title holder champ.

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September 07, 2022, 06:34:50 PM
 #126

I do agree that upsets do happen in every fight like in the Lopez vs Kambosos or Him vs Lopez, but for Loma if might be a different case as he is coming from his war torn country and he wanted to show everything that he is back and that he will get back all his belts. He is also inspired by the win of his countryman, also trained by his father, Usyk. So I don't see him being careless or underestimate him, unless he is injured or something.

I just hope Loma won't start slow.  Since he is from a long break due to him participating in defending his country, there is a possibility that Loma will adjust since this is his first fight after a long break.  And besides, if we observe his fight against Lopez, he really started so slow there, it was in the later round when he starts showing what he has, so in the end, Loma lost via unanimous decision.

It is much better for us to expect that Lomachenko will start slow rather than expecting the opposite one because we know that his inactivity in the ring because of the war might take some toll that will causes him to start slow. Also, I believe that Loma will take the time first to feel the environment while testing the water against Ortiz. Nonetheless, it's hard to think that Loma will be defeated here as he have the advantage when it comes to ring IQ and that is what matters the most even if he haven't got the height and reach advantage.

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September 07, 2022, 06:48:52 PM
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Yes, anything can happen and we can't really know for sure if there will be some upset in Kambosos and Haney's rematch because I believe there won't be much of a difference this time, the latter will always find his own to dominate Kambosos that's why he is that confident to face Kambosos again in his own country and in front of his own people.

As for this fight between Loma and Ortiz, I think we can somehow say that this will be just a tune-up fight for Loma before he fights Haney soon and unfortunately for Ortiz, he will just be a ladder and a challenge that Loma will eventually survive.

A good ladder, but also a good way to bring his name on top. Inside this sport, upset happens and until there's no declare winner
anything is possible to happen. Ortiz needs to bring everything here. It's an opportunity for him, but for sure, more on Loma's comeback
and fans are aiming to see him challenging a title holder champ.

I agree, this fight is not exempted either especially this year as there's been a lot of upsets happened lately.

Anyway, I'm starting to sense why Ortiz has been chosen to be the opponent of Loma in his return, I mean I might be wrong here because Loma doesn't need some average boxer to tune him up before he goes for a title fight against the undisputed boxer next. I hope I'm wrong because Ortiz is very unfortunate if it's really true.

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September 07, 2022, 07:09:38 PM
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I do agree that upsets do happen in every fight like in the Lopez vs Kambosos or Him vs Lopez, but for Loma if might be a different case as he is coming from his war torn country and he wanted to show everything that he is back and that he will get back all his belts. He is also inspired by the win of his countryman, also trained by his father, Usyk. So I don't see him being careless or underestimate him, unless he is injured or something.

I just hope Loma won't start slow.  Since he is from a long break due to him participating in defending his country, there is a possibility that Loma will adjust since this is his first fight after a long break.  And besides, if we observe his fight against Lopez, he really started so slow there, it was in the later round when he starts showing what he has, so in the end, Loma lost via unanimous decision.

It is much better for us to expect that Lomachenko will start slow rather than expecting the opposite one because we know that his inactivity in the ring because of the war might take some toll that will causes him to start slow. Also, I believe that Loma will take the time first to feel the environment while testing the water against Ortiz. Nonetheless, it's hard to think that Loma will be defeated here as he have the advantage when it comes to ring IQ and that is what matters the most even if he haven't got the height and reach advantage.

We never know what strategy Loma and his camp will bring during the fight, maybe yes he will start slow and try to analyze the style of fighting his opponent have, then try to box him and start throwing solid punches, also maybe that since his absence he will also try to puzzle his opponent and try to engage when he already see confusions about his usual fighting form.

It's all on him and what is the preparation that he and his camp trained to impress the fans and to keep his name up from this sport.

Expecting him to win with a much entertaining outcome.


Yes, anything can happen and we can't really know for sure if there will be some upset in Kambosos and Haney's rematch because I believe there won't be much of a difference this time, the latter will always find his own to dominate Kambosos that's why he is that confident to face Kambosos again in his own country and in front of his own people.

As for this fight between Loma and Ortiz, I think we can somehow say that this will be just a tune-up fight for Loma before he fights Haney soon and unfortunately for Ortiz, he will just be a ladder and a challenge that Loma will eventually survive.

A good ladder, but also a good way to bring his name on top. Inside this sport, upset happens and until there's no declare winner
anything is possible to happen. Ortiz needs to bring everything here. It's an opportunity for him, but for sure, more on Loma's comeback
and fans are aiming to see him challenging a title holder champ.

I agree, this fight is not exempted either especially this year as there's been a lot of upsets happened lately.

Anyway, I'm starting to sense why Ortiz has been chosen to be the opponent of Loma in his return, I mean I might be wrong here because Loma doesn't need some average boxer to tune him up before he goes for a title fight against the undisputed boxer next. I hope I'm wrong because Ortiz is very unfortunate if it's really true.

It's all been set up and we don't know if Ortiz have that caliber to beat Loma, as a fan I'm expecting Loma to impress the whole boxing community with his comeback, whatever the deal with Ortiz if Loma is on its way back to his former place he needs to bring all the best in beating Ortiz and showing this division that he's going to chase for another belt.

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September 08, 2022, 02:04:04 AM
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Yes, anything can happen and we can't really know for sure if there will be some upset in Kambosos and Haney's rematch because I believe there won't be much of a difference this time, the latter will always find his own to dominate Kambosos that's why he is that confident to face Kambosos again in his own country and in front of his own people.

As for this fight between Loma and Ortiz, I think we can somehow say that this will be just a tune-up fight for Loma before he fights Haney soon and unfortunately for Ortiz, he will just be a ladder and a challenge that Loma will eventually survive.

A good ladder, but also a good way to bring his name on top. Inside this sport, upset happens and until there's no declare winner
anything is possible to happen. Ortiz needs to bring everything here. It's an opportunity for him, but for sure, more on Loma's comeback
and fans are aiming to see him challenging a title holder champ.

I agree, this fight is not exempted either especially this year as there's been a lot of upsets happened lately.

Anyway, I'm starting to sense why Ortiz has been chosen to be the opponent of Loma in his return, I mean I might be wrong here because Loma doesn't need some average boxer to tune him up before he goes for a title fight against the undisputed boxer next. I hope I'm wrong because Ortiz is very unfortunate if it's really true.

I guess he is chosen because he seems to be a good challenge for Loma. Young and talented but very raw. So it will be a good test for Loma because this is a comeback fight for him.

Of course, Ortiz will take advantage of what is being offered to him, fight the best and even if he losses, he will gain valuable experience that can make him a better fighter in the future for this division.

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September 08, 2022, 08:32:42 AM
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I do agree that upsets do happen in every fight like in the Lopez vs Kambosos or Him vs Lopez, but for Loma if might be a different case as he is coming from his war torn country and he wanted to show everything that he is back and that he will get back all his belts. He is also inspired by the win of his countryman, also trained by his father, Usyk. So I don't see him being careless or underestimate him, unless he is injured or something.

I just hope Loma won't start slow.  Since he is from a long break due to him participating in defending his country, there is a possibility that Loma will adjust since this is his first fight after a long break.  And besides, if we observe his fight against Lopez, he really started so slow there, it was in the later round when he starts showing what he has, so in the end, Loma lost via unanimous decision.

It is much better for us to expect that Lomachenko will start slow rather than expecting the opposite one because we know that his inactivity in the ring because of the war might take some toll that will causes him to start slow. Also, I believe that Loma will take the time first to feel the environment while testing the water against Ortiz. Nonetheless, it's hard to think that Loma will be defeated here as he have the advantage when it comes to ring IQ and that is what matters the most even if he haven't got the height and reach advantage.

I don't think that Loma will start slow, he is eager to get back in the ring and just like in his first comeback fight coming from a lost and injury, he blasted a good fighter in Nakatani. Of course the circumstances are very different now, but Loma having a top boxing IQ, it won't deter him to start where he left off prior to the war in Ukraine. So I expect the same Loma, if not much hungrier in this fight to impress his fans.

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September 08, 2022, 09:22:22 AM
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I don't think that Loma will start slow, he is eager to get back in the ring and just like in his first comeback fight coming from a lost and injury, he blasted a good fighter in Nakatani. Of course the circumstances are very different now, but Loma having a top boxing IQ, it won't deter him to start where he left off prior to the war in Ukraine. So I expect the same Loma, if not much hungrier in this fight to impress his fans.

I won't say he will gonna be straight to unleash his power in the first round but rather just like any other boxers who came back after resting for so long, he would be careful and won't gonna rush to beat his opponent. But it will be a different story if his opponent will gonna starts to punch him hard in the early rounds because Loma won't really give others some chance to get the best of him unless he is injured or caught by a surprise technique that he hasn't been prepared for.
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September 08, 2022, 11:39:04 AM
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I don't think that Loma will start slow, he is eager to get back in the ring and just like in his first comeback fight coming from a lost and injury, he blasted a good fighter in Nakatani. Of course the circumstances are very different now, but Loma having a top boxing IQ, it won't deter him to start where he left off prior to the war in Ukraine. So I expect the same Loma, if not much hungrier in this fight to impress his fans.

I won't say he will gonna be straight to unleash his power in the first round but rather just like any other boxers who came back after resting for so long, he would be careful and won't gonna rush to beat his opponent. But it will be a different story if his opponent will gonna starts to punch him hard in the early rounds because Loma won't really give others some chance to get the best of him unless he is injured or caught by a surprise technique that he hasn't been prepared for.

Knowing Loma, rushing is not his strategy, he likes to take it slow but consistently damages his opponent, so most likely that's what we are going to see here. This fight could last over 6 rounds but it will not go to the judges' scorecards, that's my guess and I like the odds for that.
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I do agree that upsets do happen in every fight like in the Lopez vs Kambosos or Him vs Lopez, but for Loma if might be a different case as he is coming from his war torn country and he wanted to show everything that he is back and that he will get back all his belts. He is also inspired by the win of his countryman, also trained by his father, Usyk. So I don't see him being careless or underestimate him, unless he is injured or something.

I just hope Loma won't start slow.  Since he is from a long break due to him participating in defending his country, there is a possibility that Loma will adjust since this is his first fight after a long break.  And besides, if we observe his fight against Lopez, he really started so slow there, it was in the later round when he starts showing what he has, so in the end, Loma lost via unanimous decision.
I think it is very possible that Lomachenko is going to start slow this fight precisely because of the factors that you mention, even if we know that he is a very good boxer the long period of inactivity is going to affect him and he will need a few rounds to adjust.

However I think he's so above Ortiz that this is not going to affect him significantly in the fight and Lomachenko should still be able to obtain an easy victory during this fight and then obtain a chance to challenge Haney and fight him during the next year.

That is likely the case for Loma on his comeback from war but I believe he can overcome it easily like we can see on other boxers as well because even if he's been out for a while, he still have some experience that he can grasp and use whenever he is adjusting just like in times like these.

Ortiz on the other hand, his only chance is in the early rounds when Loma is still adjusting but if he can't pull it in early rounds then it's already safe to say that he'll be defeated soon enough because as the fight drags on, Loma will slowly getting back to normal and the fight will also be more harder for Ortiz.

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I don't think that Loma will start slow, he is eager to get back in the ring and just like in his first comeback fight coming from a lost and injury, he blasted a good fighter in Nakatani. Of course the circumstances are very different now, but Loma having a top boxing IQ, it won't deter him to start where he left off prior to the war in Ukraine. So I expect the same Loma, if not much hungrier in this fight to impress his fans.

I won't say he will gonna be straight to unleash his power in the first round but rather just like any other boxers who came back after resting for so long, he would be careful and won't gonna rush to beat his opponent. But it will be a different story if his opponent will gonna starts to punch him hard in the early rounds because Loma won't really give others some chance to get the best of him unless he is injured or caught by a surprise technique that he hasn't been prepared for.

Knowing Loma, rushing is not his strategy, he likes to take it slow but consistently damages his opponent, so most likely that's what we are going to see here. This fight could last over 6 rounds but it will not go to the judges' scorecards, that's my guess and I like the odds for that.

Yes, he will not likely go for the kill early, but he will study his prey in the first couple of rounds and then developed his strategy as the rounds goes on. And then when he sense his opponent his weakening and can't keep up with him, he might go with different route, like jab, combo to confuse him and score maybe a knock out and mostly this fight will not go to the judges. Loma doesn't want his comeback fight to be a decision win.

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September 08, 2022, 08:34:17 PM
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Yes, he will not likely go for the kill early, but he will study his prey in the first couple of rounds and then developed his strategy as the rounds goes on. And then when he sense his opponent his weakening and can't keep up with him, he might go with different route, like jab, combo to confuse him and score maybe a knock out and mostly this fight will not go to the judges. Loma doesn't want his comeback fight to be a decision win.
It's very difficult to get a knockout chance in the first few rounds because his performance is still high defensively and Ortiz will counterattack if Limo loses his defense after attacking, so Limo is very careful in strategizing before there is a good chance to attack when the defense is weak. But you're right, this year's Limo fight is a great opportunity to prove hard training and his comeback get a TKO or KO win before the last round, I'm also on Limo side and I'm pretty sure he's got a knockout win in his boxing career roster for recent history.

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September 09, 2022, 05:03:27 PM
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Yes, he will not likely go for the kill early, but he will study his prey in the first couple of rounds and then developed his strategy as the rounds goes on. And then when he sense his opponent his weakening and can't keep up with him, he might go with different route, like jab, combo to confuse him and score maybe a knock out and mostly this fight will not go to the judges. Loma doesn't want his comeback fight to be a decision win.
It's very difficult to get a knockout chance in the first few rounds because his performance is still high defensively and Ortiz will counterattack if Limo loses his defense after attacking, so Limo is very careful in strategizing before there is a good chance to attack when the defense is weak. But you're right, this year's Limo fight is a great opportunity to prove hard training and his comeback get a TKO or KO win before the last round, I'm also on Limo side and I'm pretty sure he's got a knockout win in his boxing career roster for recent history.

It is not a bad idea to bet on Ortiz too, just throw some few bucks on him because we never know that Loma might get overwhelmed again just like what happened to him against Teo Lopez. But knowing Loma, he is likely going for a win here or even a KO if he can find that right opening to redeem his name again from that loss he got from Teo.

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September 09, 2022, 05:25:10 PM
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I do agree that upsets do happen in every fight like in the Lopez vs Kambosos or Him vs Lopez, but for Loma if might be a different case as he is coming from his war torn country and he wanted to show everything that he is back and that he will get back all his belts. He is also inspired by the win of his countryman, also trained by his father, Usyk. So I don't see him being careless or underestimate him, unless he is injured or something.

I just hope Loma won't start slow.  Since he is from a long break due to him participating in defending his country, there is a possibility that Loma will adjust since this is his first fight after a long break.  And besides, if we observe his fight against Lopez, he really started so slow there, it was in the later round when he starts showing what he has, so in the end, Loma lost via unanimous decision.

It is much better for us to expect that Lomachenko will start slow rather than expecting the opposite one because we know that his inactivity in the ring because of the war might take some toll that will causes him to start slow. Also, I believe that Loma will take the time first to feel the environment while testing the water against Ortiz. Nonetheless, it's hard to think that Loma will be defeated here as he have the advantage when it comes to ring IQ and that is what matters the most even if he haven't got the height and reach advantage.

We never know what strategy Loma and his camp will bring during the fight, maybe yes he will start slow and try to analyze the style of fighting his opponent have, then try to box him and start throwing solid punches, also maybe that since his absence he will also try to puzzle his opponent and try to engage when he already see confusions about his usual fighting form.

It's all on him and what is the preparation that he and his camp trained to impress the fans and to keep his name up from this sport.

Expecting him to win with a much entertaining outcome.

Right! I just prefer not giving Loma some high expectations in this fight as he just came back from inactivity and to keep myself from being disappointed if ever he doesn't live by the expectations we've set. Also, Ortiz should be still careful even if let's say that Loma looks like he is having some hard time in grasping to get hold of his old self because we never know, Loma might just faking it to bait Ortiz.

Anyway, it's a good news to know that Loma is coming back. Let's see what can he give to us this time to keep us entertained! Cool

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Lomachenko, as far as we know, is the godfather of the children of another Ukrainian boxer, Oleksandr Usyk, and his fight will take place much later than Usyk's fight, so he may well support his compatriot and win. However, considering that Ortiz fully justifies his nickname as technical and he has not lost yet, so Lomachenko will have to try very hard.

I think its Ortiz who should try to work here, he is the underdog and he is up against a very skilled, quick with a good generalship he is fighting the kind of boxer that he has not fought in his whole career, Loma has fought fighters like or better than Ortiz in the past, he has an injury when he fought Lopez, that is why he lost the fight, if we will see a healthy Loma we can see similar fights like the Commey fight, a healthy Loma can beat any great boxer.

Indeed this will be a huge test for Ortiz since some reply here stated that Ortiz hasn't fought any decent fighter yet, let alone Loma who is a very skilled one.  Ortiz should prepare and study Loma closely in order for him to at least match the pace of Loma if not outpaces him.  We may think that this is the same as a walk in the park for Loma but we can't tell if that will be the case since I think Ortiz will be fully prepared for this fight.  I am sure no boxer wanted his career to be blemished.

Ortiz may have not lost a fight in his career yet but this time will be much different as Loma is not that easy to defeat and the latter has been through fights that molded him into what he is now, Ortiz should be careful because he could pave the way for Loma's comeback and scathe his record. Well, if Ortiz is that determined then he have to prepare hard just to defeat Loma to have a chance in fighting the champions soon.


If he wants to add good hypes in his resume, beating Loma is one of the best thing that he can do and will open a big door for him

to have a good money fight that will bring more opportunities. Maybe a title fight will come on his way after beating Loma, knowing

how the influence of social media can bring to his career, he just need to prepare hard to take down Loma and it will surely bring him up.

Surely that will open lots of opportunities for Ortiz if he can manage to defeat Lomachenko but that won't come easy as we know how Loma fights in the ring and his IQ is much different compared to an average boxer. Ortiz's only advantage is that Loma might start easy as the latter will likely feel the fight first from inactivity but after that, we may see a blow-by-blow fight and that is if Ortiz can withstand it if the fight drags longer.

About this fight everyone thinks that Ortiz can win the fight, Lomachenko is a boxer who can give a good surprise, for me he is a complete boxer, I think that Lomachenko as well as Ortiz need to win, I don't know how it will develop, but because of the style of Ortiz I think he can go in the first rounds looking for a possible knockout, and this is something that Lomachenko can avoid 100%, but if he has a very intensive training, and of course he has a good strategy to apply, or if he endures the first rounds and that he can face everything with his own strategies, maybe he wants to look for a knockout but it is something that would not be very strategic.

I do agree that upsets do happen in every fight like in the Lopez vs Kambosos or Him vs Lopez, but for Loma if might be a different case as he is coming from his war torn country and he wanted to show everything that he is back and that he will get back all his belts. He is also inspired by the win of his countryman, also trained by his father, Usyk. So I don't see him being careless or underestimate him, unless he is injured or something.

I just hope Loma won't start slow.  Since he is from a long break due to him participating in defending his country, there is a possibility that Loma will adjust since this is his first fight after a long break.  And besides, if we observe his fight against Lopez, he really started so slow there, it was in the later round when he starts showing what he has, so in the end, Loma lost via unanimous decision.

It is much better for us to expect that Lomachenko will start slow rather than expecting the opposite one because we know that his inactivity in the ring because of the war might take some toll that will causes him to start slow. Also, I believe that Loma will take the time first to feel the environment while testing the water against Ortiz. Nonetheless, it's hard to think that Loma will be defeated here as he have the advantage when it comes to ring IQ and that is what matters the most even if he haven't got the height and reach advantage.

We never know what strategy Loma and his camp will bring during the fight, maybe yes he will start slow and try to analyze the style of fighting his opponent have, then try to box him and start throwing solid punches, also maybe that since his absence he will also try to puzzle his opponent and try to engage when he already see confusions about his usual fighting form.

It's all on him and what is the preparation that he and his camp trained to impress the fans and to keep his name up from this sport.

Expecting him to win with a much entertaining outcome.

Right! I just prefer not giving Loma some high expectations in this fight as he just came back from inactivity and to keep myself from being disappointed if ever he doesn't live by the expectations we've set. Also, Ortiz should be still careful even if let's say that Loma looks like he is having some hard time in grasping to get hold of his old self because we never know, Loma might just faking it to bait Ortiz.

Anyway, it's a good news to know that Loma is coming back. Let's see what can he give to us this time to keep us entertained! Cool
I've actually been thinking that I don't think Loma will come after spending so much time with inactivity and come to disappoint, I think he will come with a lot of desire to destroy and do everything he can to win, he might as well be looking for a knockout, Ortiz is not stupid either, he will not allow himself to be knocked out, but everything is in the possibility that things flow like a good fight, this can happen and I think it would be a great fight, the business model is very open to that it can be a great fight, the fans want a fight like this, and I think the sponsors are looking for a very good reward.


In another order of ideas, this is interesting:

Devin Haney agreeable to fighting Vasyl Lomachenko says Bob Arum



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By Brian Webber: Top Rank promoter Bob Arum says he’s already spoken to Devin Haney and his father Bill Haney about fighting Vasyl Lomachenko next. The Haney’s are agreeable to taking on Lomachenko as long as they get past their next opponents.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/09/devin-haney-agreeable-to-fighting-vasyl-lomachenko-says-bob-arum/

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By Brian Webber: Top Rank promoter Bob Arum says he’s already spoken to Devin Haney and his father Bill Haney about fighting Vasyl Lomachenko next. The Haney’s are agreeable to taking on Lomachenko as long as they get past their next opponents.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/09/devin-haney-agreeable-to-fighting-vasyl-lomachenko-says-bob-arum/

Great news, now, is the camp of Lomachenko willing to take the challenge? It's going to be a big fight this year for sure, I think selling this fight would not be hard and it's going to be 50-50 or 60-40 in our favorite bookies. Anyway, without minding the betting odds, I think this fight is worth to wait for.

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Yes, anything can happen and we can't really know for sure if there will be some upset in Kambosos and Haney's rematch because I believe there won't be much of a difference this time, the latter will always find his own to dominate Kambosos that's why he is that confident to face Kambosos again in his own country and in front of his own people.

As for this fight between Loma and Ortiz, I think we can somehow say that this will be just a tune-up fight for Loma before he fights Haney soon and unfortunately for Ortiz, he will just be a ladder and a challenge that Loma will eventually survive.

A good ladder, but also a good way to bring his name on top. Inside this sport, upset happens and until there's no declare winner
anything is possible to happen. Ortiz needs to bring everything here. It's an opportunity for him, but for sure, more on Loma's comeback
and fans are aiming to see him challenging a title holder champ.

I agree, this fight is not exempted either especially this year as there's been a lot of upsets happened lately.

Anyway, I'm starting to sense why Ortiz has been chosen to be the opponent of Loma in his return, I mean I might be wrong here because Loma doesn't need some average boxer to tune him up before he goes for a title fight against the undisputed boxer next. I hope I'm wrong because Ortiz is very unfortunate if it's really true.

I guess he is chosen because he seems to be a good challenge for Loma. Young and talented but very raw. So it will be a good test for Loma because this is a comeback fight for him.

Of course, Ortiz will take advantage of what is being offered to him, fight the best and even if he losses, he will gain valuable experience that can make him a better fighter in the future for this division.

You're probably right about that and judging Ortiz's record, he seems fit and much more suitable to fight Loma and challenge the latter what could he offer in his comeback. And if by chance Loma will be rusty, by chance, then Ortiz should take advantage of that because defeating Loma will definitely hype his name to fight stronger boxers in the industry with the likes of Ryan Garcia.

But that's just the other side of my speculation because we can't really take away the fact that Loma is the one who has the higher hand here in this fight, and we may see Loma winning by a KO/TKO in his comeback.

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