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October 17, 2022, 06:19:31 AM
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Winning against Loma will indeed book him to more pay.

Ortiz won against Herring so that's a + of possibility after it he gained a shot against Loma who also need a tune up for his next fight.
Comparing the skills of the 2, Loma has the edge so it might be difficult to see an upset against someone who has the same skill set of Shakur. And for that the odds speaks itself.


As of now, the real basis is the odds, we can only see the real status between them once they are already in the ring. When Lopez fought Loma, Loma was also heavily favored, but personally, I don't think that will happen again here as I believe Loma had already learned his lesson.

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October 17, 2022, 12:09:06 PM
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As of now, the real basis is the odds, we can only see the real status between them once they are already in the ring. When Lopez fought Loma, Loma was also heavily favored, but personally, I don't think that will happen again here as I believe Loma had already learned his lesson.

He already learned the hard way and he will not be the same as when he fought Lopez, Lomachenko will be more careful at the start of the rounds and this fight will not end early unless Loma smells some blood that will gonna trigger finish his opponent earlier than expected. it's really not hard to come back from a long time rest in the boxing ring when you still got all the skills and instinct to win every fight and this one will be just like a practice match for Loma if he can find his rhythms in the early rounds.

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October 17, 2022, 12:14:19 PM
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As of now, the real basis is the odds, we can only see the real status between them once they are already in the ring. When Lopez fought Loma, Loma was also heavily favored, but personally, I don't think that will happen again here as I believe Loma had already learned his lesson.

He already learned the hard way and he will not be the same as when he fought Lopez, Lomachenko will be more careful at the start of the rounds and this fight will not end early unless Loma smells some blood that will gonna trigger finish his opponent earlier than expected. it's really not hard to come back from a long time rest in the boxing ring when you still got all the skills and instinct to win every fight and this one will be just like a practice match for Loma if he can find his rhythms in the early rounds.

And Loma still has that, so it's not going to be hard for him to beat  Jamaine Ortiz although I have to say that he is not an easy opponent. Loma is a very discipline fighter, he does not throw trash talk a lot, all he does is impress the fans with his very technical style, so hopefully we will again see it here.



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October 17, 2022, 01:11:38 PM
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As of now, the real basis is the odds, we can only see the real status between them once they are already in the ring. When Lopez fought Loma, Loma was also heavily favored, but personally, I don't think that will happen again here as I believe Loma had already learned his lesson.

He already learned the hard way and he will not be the same as when he fought Lopez, Lomachenko will be more careful at the start of the rounds and this fight will not end early unless Loma smells some blood that will gonna trigger finish his opponent earlier than expected. it's really not hard to come back from a long time rest in the boxing ring when you still got all the skills and instinct to win every fight and this one will be just like a practice match for Loma if he can find his rhythms in the early rounds.

And Loma still has that, so it's not going to be hard for him to beat  Jamaine Ortiz although I have to say that he is not an easy opponent. Loma is a very discipline fighter, he does not throw trash talk a lot, all he does is impress the fans with his very technical style, so hopefully we will again see it here.

This Ortiz is a good challenge for Loma's skill but it's a good preparation against Haney if they agreed to meet I'm sure they will, compared to other boxers in the higher weight division, fighters from lower weight are easy to create a deal, with the exception of Ryan Garcia who keeps avoiding top fighters in his division, both Haney and Lomachecnko are risk takers and when you are a risk taker, you will be rewarded with titles and big fights. 
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As of now, the real basis is the odds, we can only see the real status between them once they are already in the ring. When Lopez fought Loma, Loma was also heavily favored, but personally, I don't think that will happen again here as I believe Loma had already learned his lesson.

He already learned the hard way and he will not be the same as when he fought Lopez, Lomachenko will be more careful at the start of the rounds and this fight will not end early unless Loma smells some blood that will gonna trigger finish his opponent earlier than expected. it's really not hard to come back from a long time rest in the boxing ring when you still got all the skills and instinct to win every fight and this one will be just like a practice match for Loma if he can find his rhythms in the early rounds.

And Loma still has that, so it's not going to be hard for him to beat  Jamaine Ortiz although I have to say that he is not an easy opponent. Loma is a very discipline fighter, he does not throw trash talk a lot, all he does is impress the fans with his very technical style, so hopefully we will again see it here.

This Ortiz is a good challenge for Loma's skill but it's a good preparation against Haney if they agreed to meet I'm sure they will, compared to other boxers in the higher weight division, fighters from lower weight are easy to create a deal, with the exception of Ryan Garcia who keeps avoiding top fighters in his division, both Haney and Lomachecnko are risk takers and when you are a risk taker, you will be rewarded with titles and big fights. 


Jamaine Ortiz is undefeated with 16 wins, so yes, it's a good preparation for Loma going to his big fight with Haney. I think both wants to fight each other, so fans we can expect that Haney and Loma will fight early next year. This seemed to be an easy fight as we can see on the betting odds, bookies will not lie, that's how small the chance of Jamaine Ortiz making an upset here, however, since he is undefeated, Loma should not be too complacent.

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Jamaine Ortiz is undefeated with 16 wins, so yes, it's a good preparation for Loma going to his big fight with Haney. I think both wants to fight each other, so fans we can expect that Haney and Loma will fight early next year. This seemed to be an easy fight as we can see on the betting odds, bookies will not lie, that's how small the chance of Jamaine Ortiz making an upset here, however, since he is undefeated, Loma should not be too complacent.
The thing is Ortiz record are mostly fight a weak boxer which make him a clean record, while Lomachenko already start fighting a strong boxer since the second fight, the gap of the mental between Ortiz and Lomachenko are too far here. Since Lomachenko already comeback in boxing on the last year, this prove the Russian invasion doesn't affect his skills even though he haven't fought around a year.

I appreciated Ortiz for taking a big step here, since he's still young he can become a good boxer after get an experience from tough boxer.

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October 17, 2022, 03:44:13 PM
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Jamaine Ortiz is undefeated with 16 wins, so yes, it's a good preparation for Loma going to his big fight with Haney. I think both wants to fight each other, so fans we can expect that Haney and Loma will fight early next year. This seemed to be an easy fight as we can see on the betting odds, bookies will not lie, that's how small the chance of Jamaine Ortiz making an upset here, however, since he is undefeated, Loma should not be too complacent.
The thing is Ortiz record are mostly fight a weak boxer which make him a clean record, while Lomachenko already start fighting a strong boxer since the second fight, the gap of the mental between Ortiz and Lomachenko are too far here. Since Lomachenko already comeback in boxing on the last year, this prove the Russian invasion doesn't affect his skills even though he haven't fought for around a year.

I appreciated Ortiz for taking a big step here, since he's still young he can become a good boxer after getting experience from a tough boxer.
Loma's record is also incomparable since he faced huge boxers already. I don't think Ortiz's record has an edge but I believe that this fight will prove Loma's real strength and capability. Ortiz seems too ready as well despite the invasion. It will also be another opportunity for him to create and build a stronger record if ever he'll wins this match. It will also be a big challenge for him but I don't think his young age will hinder him to prove his stamina in the ring.
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October 17, 2022, 05:21:36 PM
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Jamaine Ortiz is undefeated with 16 wins, so yes, it's a good preparation for Loma going to his big fight with Haney. I think both wants to fight each other, so fans we can expect that Haney and Loma will fight early next year. This seemed to be an easy fight as we can see on the betting odds, bookies will not lie, that's how small the chance of Jamaine Ortiz making an upset here, however, since he is undefeated, Loma should not be too complacent.
The thing is Ortiz record are mostly fight a weak boxer which make him a clean record, while Lomachenko already start fighting a strong boxer since the second fight, the gap of the mental between Ortiz and Lomachenko are too far here. Since Lomachenko already comeback in boxing on the last year, this prove the Russian invasion doesn't affect his skills even though he haven't fought for around a year.

I appreciated Ortiz for taking a big step here, since he's still young he can become a good boxer after getting experience from a tough boxer.
Loma's record is also incomparable since he faced huge boxers already. I don't think Ortiz's record has an edge but I believe that this fight will prove Loma's real strength and capability. Ortiz seems too ready as well despite the invasion. It will also be another opportunity for him to create and build a stronger record if ever he'll wins this match. It will also be a big challenge for him but I don't think his young age will hinder him to prove his stamina in the ring.

A matter of how both fighters will execute the strategy that they've got, both will try to win as they are both trying to make a hype on their careers, though most likely Loma was favored as boxing community wanted to see his greatness once again, after that long absence inside the ring fans and bettors are expecting him to show up as dominating inside the ring.

Likewise, Ortiz also is preparing and also will try to put everything in hope that beating loma will change the direction of his career.

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October 17, 2022, 08:29:04 PM
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Jamaine Ortiz is undefeated with 16 wins, so yes, it's a good preparation for Loma going to his big fight with Haney. I think both wants to fight each other, so fans we can expect that Haney and Loma will fight early next year. This seemed to be an easy fight as we can see on the betting odds, bookies will not lie, that's how small the chance of Jamaine Ortiz making an upset here, however, since he is undefeated, Loma should not be too complacent.
The thing is Ortiz record are mostly fight a weak boxer which make him a clean record, while Lomachenko already start fighting a strong boxer since the second fight, the gap of the mental between Ortiz and Lomachenko are too far here. Since Lomachenko already comeback in boxing on the last year, this prove the Russian invasion doesn't affect his skills even though he haven't fought for around a year.

I appreciated Ortiz for taking a big step here, since he's still young he can become a good boxer after getting experience from a tough boxer.
Loma's record is also incomparable since he faced huge boxers already. I don't think Ortiz's record has an edge but I believe that this fight will prove Loma's real strength and capability. Ortiz seems too ready as well despite the invasion. It will also be another opportunity for him to create and build a stronger record if ever he'll wins this match. It will also be a big challenge for him but I don't think his young age will hinder him to prove his stamina in the ring.

A matter of how both fighters will execute the strategy that they've got, both will try to win as they are both trying to make a hype on their careers, though most likely Loma was favored as boxing community wanted to see his greatness once again, after that long absence inside the ring fans and bettors are expecting him to show up as dominating inside the ring.

Likewise, Ortiz also is preparing and also will try to put everything in hope that beating loma will change the direction of his career.

we will see how prepared this two are inside the ring. Loma is the favourite but we can't disregard the capability of Ortiz in this face-off. in this fight, ortiz can gauge himself if he will be ready to fight A level fighters. we expect a toe-to-toe fight here as much as possible. loma has the knockout power but ortiz also is undefeated and has good record of KOs also. so this will be a testing fight for ortiz if he can beat the boxing fans' favourite.

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Ok, I don't think that someone has posted a video of Ortiz as we mostly talked about Loma and his comeback back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8qBBb0Jn_c

So what do you guys think? Is this kind of performance against former champion in Herring will upset Loma? Or the kid has a lot to learn still as he have said in the post fight interview. Things that he needs to improved. Nevertheless, it's priceless experience just to share the ring with Loma and it can bring something to Ortiz who is still very young at 26 years old.

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Ok, I don't think that someone has posted a video of Ortiz as we mostly talked about Loma and his comeback back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8qBBb0Jn_c

So what do you guys think? Is this kind of performance against former champion in Herring will upset Loma? Or the kid has a lot to learn still as he have said in the post fight interview. Things that he needs to improved. Nevertheless, it's priceless experience just to share the ring with Loma and it can bring something to Ortiz who is still very young at 26 years old.

He was good in that fight because he won that fight, but Herring is already old, I mean he fought a leftover while this time he will face Loma who is still at his prime, so it's not going to be the same as Loma will certainly make it look like a walk in the park.

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As of now, the real basis is the odds, we can only see the real status between them once they are already in the ring. When Lopez fought Loma, Loma was also heavily favored, but personally, I don't think that will happen again here as I believe Loma had already learned his lesson.

He already learned the hard way and he will not be the same as when he fought Lopez, Lomachenko will be more careful at the start of the rounds and this fight will not end early unless Loma smells some blood that will gonna trigger finish his opponent earlier than expected. it's really not hard to come back from a long time rest in the boxing ring when you still got all the skills and instinct to win every fight and this one will be just like a practice match for Loma if he can find his rhythms in the early rounds.

And Loma still has that, so it's not going to be hard for him to beat  Jamaine Ortiz although I have to say that he is not an easy opponent. Loma is a very discipline fighter, he does not throw trash talk a lot, all he does is impress the fans with his very technical style, so hopefully we will again see it here.

This Ortiz is a good challenge for Loma's skill but it's a good preparation against Haney if they agreed to meet I'm sure they will, compared to other boxers in the higher weight division, fighters from lower weight are easy to create a deal, with the exception of Ryan Garcia who keeps avoiding top fighters in his division, both Haney and Lomachecnko are risk takers and when you are a risk taker, you will be rewarded with titles and big fights. 

Well, if you risk big then you will really get rewarded big too but that is if you can manage to defeat your foe. In this instance, just like what others have said, Ortiz might be the perfect challenge for Loma if he is indeed back to make business with his name on the line. But I'm thinking that Loma might not get Haney if he will just barely defeat Ortiz here, he need to have an explosive result.

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Ok, I don't think that someone has posted a video of Ortiz as we mostly talked about Loma and his comeback back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8qBBb0Jn_c

So what do you guys think? Is this kind of performance against former champion in Herring will upset Loma? Or the kid has a lot to learn still as he have said in the post fight interview. Things that he needs to improved. Nevertheless, it's priceless experience just to share the ring with Loma and it can bring something to Ortiz who is still very young at 26 years old.

He was good in that fight because he won that fight, but Herring is already old, I mean he fought a leftover while this time he will face Loma who is still at his prime, so it's not going to be the same as Loma will certainly make it look like a walk in the park.

We will see if how he will try his chance against the returning well-known fighter,
that argument is valid since Loma is still in his prime, though he went away for a while and now returning inside the ring.

Ortiz has his chance to build his name and if ever upset happens here for sure, he will receive more interesting title fights or money fights
that will really bring his career high.

All will be decided on the outcome of this fight. Both fighters will have a good upcoming career once they win this fight.
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October 22, 2022, 04:13:19 AM
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^ Yes, same expectation as others, he should be showing us a good performance in this comeback fight. We missed him already when he involved himself to protect his homeland. But it's time that he goes back fighting against like his compatriot in Usyk. So if he wins by knockout or a complete shut out of Ortiz in the judges card, I'm not going to be surprised as this is the Loma that we are familiar since he become a champion.

You don't need to ask that for him because we know Loma, he is a great boxer and he is always an entertaining boxer to watch. In fact, I'm more interested on his next fight as this fight is just probably his warm up before a big fight which could happen this year.

Yeah, and most likely his next fight will be either against a very worthy opponent on Devin Haney or George Kambosos. George Kambosos beat Teo Lopez who beat Loma. But Haney beat Kambosos and this is their rematch. So he will have a chance to get back his belt technically. And so this could be just a warm up for him and show us that he still the champion in this division.

The truth is that this fight promises a lot, especially for those of us who hope that a good result can be given by Loma, some who are my fans of Ortiz give Loma as the winner even over their emotions, of course that is the safest thing, but I don't know, I think that all these things, social networks and everything that has to do with boxing means that when certain information is seen, it fills any boxer with a lot of "itch", their self-esteem is very hard but At the same time, he is flexible, and Loma obviously has an attitude of being a much tougher boxer, so all these comments that are very much in favor of Loma can make Ortiz do a very strong and unusual training and maybe give a surprise. .

As of now, the real basis is the odds, we can only see the real status between them once they are already in the ring. When Lopez fought Loma, Loma was also heavily favored, but personally, I don't think that will happen again here as I believe Loma had already learned his lesson.

He already learned the hard way and he will not be the same as when he fought Lopez, Lomachenko will be more careful at the start of the rounds and this fight will not end early unless Loma smells some blood that will gonna trigger finish his opponent earlier than expected. it's really not hard to come back from a long time rest in the boxing ring when you still got all the skills and instinct to win every fight and this one will be just like a practice match for Loma if he can find his rhythms in the early rounds.

And Loma still has that, so it's not going to be hard for him to beat  Jamaine Ortiz although I have to say that he is not an easy opponent. Loma is a very discipline fighter, he does not throw trash talk a lot, all he does is impress the fans with his very technical style, so hopefully we will again see it here.

This Ortiz is a good challenge for Loma's skill but it's a good preparation against Haney if they agreed to meet I'm sure they will, compared to other boxers in the higher weight division, fighters from lower weight are easy to create a deal, with the exception of Ryan Garcia who keeps avoiding top fighters in his division, both Haney and Lomachecnko are risk takers and when you are a risk taker, you will be rewarded with titles and big fights. 

Well, if you risk big then you will really get rewarded big too but that is if you can manage to defeat your foe. In this instance, just like what others have said, Ortiz might be the perfect challenge for Loma if he is indeed back to make business with his name on the line. But I'm thinking that Loma might not get Haney if he will just barely defeat Ortiz here, he need to have an explosive result.

What you say is very true, first Loma has to realize that Ortiz is not an easy boxer, and something that I like about Ortz is that he has a lot of determination and in boxing that is what is most sought after, having the determination to be able to do Things are going very well, I know that Loma's main objective is to see himself against Haney, but if Loma wins with a wide advantage, it would be ideal if he could win by a knockout, but against Ortiz I really see it as very difficult, it is something almost improbable, but hey, even though everything is possible in boxing, I would be much more inclined towards the option that the objectives of both boxers is to transcend, but Loma does not have it easy at the moment.

Ok, I don't think that someone has posted a video of Ortiz as we mostly talked about Loma and his comeback back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8qBBb0Jn_c

So what do you guys think? Is this kind of performance against former champion in Herring will upset Loma? Or the kid has a lot to learn still as he have said in the post fight interview. Things that he needs to improved. Nevertheless, it's priceless experience just to share the ring with Loma and it can bring something to Ortiz who is still very young at 26 years old.

He was good in that fight because he won that fight, but Herring is already old, I mean he fought a leftover while this time he will face Loma who is still at his prime, so it's not going to be the same as Loma will certainly make it look like a walk in the park.

We will see if how he will try his chance against the returning well-known fighter,
that argument is valid since Loma is still in his prime, though he went away for a while and now returning inside the ring.

Ortiz has his chance to build his name and if ever upset happens here for sure, he will receive more interesting title fights or money fights
that will really bring his career high.

All will be decided on the outcome of this fight. Both fighters will have a good upcoming career once they win this fight.

It is that both boxers are on the path of the search for glory, and that is something that I do not blame them, it is very good, I would say that they both want to become much more recognized, for his part Loma is a boxer because for me He is iconic, his fighting style is very good, and Ortiz has also shown that what he says he does, this is getting very good, because the bets will honestly get much better as time goes by and the fight gets closer, both boxers want money, they want fame, titles, that is the dream of every professional boxer, and that everything is built under the philosophy of having the best reputation.



Well, but not everything is about these two great boxers, this fight is also presented that has relevance and some bets can be made.

Jose Matias Romero replaces Jessie Magdaleno, meets Robeisy Ramirez on Lomachenko vs Ortiz undercard



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“The opponent does not matter. I will put on a show October 29 in New York City,” Ramirez said. “I have the utmost respect for Romero, who took the fight on short notice. But once we get in that ring, I am coming full steam ahead at him for the win. ‘El Tren’ will not be derailed.”

Romero’s (26-2, 9 KO) two biggest fights came all the way up at lightweight, where he battled Isaac Cruz to a surprisingly competitive decision loss and subsequently got swept by Michel Rivera. Both of those guys are top-notch 135ers, to be fair, and you have to imagine that Romero will do a bit better in his natural weight class.

Source: https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/10/20/23415588/jose-matias-romero-replaces-jessie-magdaleno-meets-robeisy-ramirez-lomachenko-vs-ortiz-boxing-news

Of course, both for Loma and for Ortiz there are many opportunities for very good fights, the fact is that if things don't work out for some of the two, what will happen with all those offers.

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October 22, 2022, 07:22:25 AM
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Ok, I don't think that someone has posted a video of Ortiz as we mostly talked about Loma and his comeback back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8qBBb0Jn_c

So what do you guys think? Is this kind of performance against former champion in Herring will upset Loma? Or the kid has a lot to learn still as he have said in the post fight interview. Things that he needs to improved. Nevertheless, it's priceless experience just to share the ring with Loma and it can bring something to Ortiz who is still very young at 26 years old.

He was good in that fight because he won that fight, but Herring is already old, I mean he fought a leftover while this time he will face Loma who is still at his prime, so it's not going to be the same as Loma will certainly make it look like a walk in the park.

We will see if how he will try his chance against the returning well-known fighter,
that argument is valid since Loma is still in his prime, though he went away for a while and now returning inside the ring.

Ortiz has his chance to build his name and if ever upset happens here for sure, he will receive more interesting title fights or money fights
that will really bring his career high.

All will be decided on the outcome of this fight. Both fighters will have a good upcoming career once they win this fight.

That if is not gonna happen, and I still think that if even Loma losses here, he will still come back again and win. Loma is not like other boxers who losses their popularity when they lose, look at Loma, he loss to Lopez but come back with consecutive wins, so his excuses are valid during that loss.

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October 22, 2022, 05:54:29 PM
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As of now, the real basis is the odds, we can only see the real status between them once they are already in the ring. When Lopez fought Loma, Loma was also heavily favored, but personally, I don't think that will happen again here as I believe Loma had already learned his lesson.

He already learned the hard way and he will not be the same as when he fought Lopez, Lomachenko will be more careful at the start of the rounds and this fight will not end early unless Loma smells some blood that will gonna trigger finish his opponent earlier than expected. it's really not hard to come back from a long time rest in the boxing ring when you still got all the skills and instinct to win every fight and this one will be just like a practice match for Loma if he can find his rhythms in the early rounds.

And Loma still has that, so it's not going to be hard for him to beat  Jamaine Ortiz although I have to say that he is not an easy opponent. Loma is a very discipline fighter, he does not throw trash talk a lot, all he does is impress the fans with his very technical style, so hopefully we will again see it here.

This Ortiz is a good challenge for Loma's skill but it's a good preparation against Haney if they agreed to meet I'm sure they will, compared to other boxers in the higher weight division, fighters from lower weight are easy to create a deal, with the exception of Ryan Garcia who keeps avoiding top fighters in his division, both Haney and Lomachecnko are risk takers and when you are a risk taker, you will be rewarded with titles and big fights. 

Well, if you risk big then you will really get rewarded big too but that is if you can manage to defeat your foe. In this instance, just like what others have said, Ortiz might be the perfect challenge for Loma if he is indeed back to make business with his name on the line. But I'm thinking that Loma might not get Haney if he will just barely defeat Ortiz here, he need to have an explosive result.

What you say is very true, first Loma has to realize that Ortiz is not an easy boxer, and something that I like about Ortz is that he has a lot of determination and in boxing that is what is most sought after, having the determination to be able to do Things are going very well, I know that Loma's main objective is to see himself against Haney, but if Loma wins with a wide advantage, it would be ideal if he could win by a knockout, but against Ortiz I really see it as very difficult, it is something almost improbable, but hey, even though everything is possible in boxing, I would be much more inclined towards the option that the objectives of both boxers is to transcend, but Loma does not have it easy at the moment.

Yes, Ortiz is not just an ordinary boxer who falls on the category of "just a tune-up" fight for Loma before he faces the undisputed champion, Devin Haney. As we can see, this Ortiz has a polished record that is why he is chosen for Loma because this kid will be Loma's test before he face a much harder opponent. We will see it very soon on how did Loma prepare for this fight and of course, Ortiz because Loma is definitely a good trophy that can hype his name if he can win this one.

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Speaking of Loma, he has been vocal about Tank Davis and he said that Tank needs to face tough opponent so that he can be recognized. I think we all agree to that, he just face Isaac Cruz and then Rolly Romero in his last 2 fights and not all of us are familiar with that name. And also Loma praises Shakur, and admit that they have sparred in the past at 126-130 but admit that Stevenson is very different now as he is bigger and poise to make it to 135 lbs and which he is trying to get all his belt back. And if Loma wins here, we expect a fight between him and Haney next year and that will be big. As for Ortiz, even if he losses this fight, this is still a good experience to put under his belt and he could be a champion later down the road.

Ok, I don't think that someone has posted a video of Ortiz as we mostly talked about Loma and his comeback back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8qBBb0Jn_c

So what do you guys think? Is this kind of performance against former champion in Herring will upset Loma? Or the kid has a lot to learn still as he have said in the post fight interview. Things that he needs to improved. Nevertheless, it's priceless experience just to share the ring with Loma and it can bring something to Ortiz who is still very young at 26 years old.

He was good in that fight because he won that fight, but Herring is already old, I mean he fought a leftover while this time he will face Loma who is still at his prime, so it's not going to be the same as Loma will certainly make it look like a walk in the park.

Yes, I was just surprised that Herring was really done after the Shakur fight. I thought he still has some inside of him against Ortiz. But I guess he is out of his prime already and the young Ortiz proved that youth has it's advantage.

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October 25, 2022, 10:44:12 AM
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Speaking of Loma, he has been vocal about Tank Davis and he said that Tank needs to face tough opponent so that he can be recognized. I think we all agree to that, he just face Isaac Cruz and then Rolly Romero in his last 2 fights and not all of us are familiar with that name. And also Loma praises Shakur, and admit that they have sparred in the past at 126-130 but admit that Stevenson is very different now as he is bigger and poise to make it to 135 lbs and which he is trying to get all his belt back. And if Loma wins here, we expect a fight between him and Haney next year and that will be big. As for Ortiz, even if he losses this fight, this is still a good experience to put under his belt and he could be a champion later down the road.


The expectations from the fans really into the side of Loma, knowing that he's on a mission to bring down Haney after this fight, chasing for the belt and regaining the hype will bring loma more money fight. Still too early for conclusion, but the upper hand and the favorite already been eyed to Loma, it's more on Ortiz exposure and how he will try to upset the heavy favorite.

We might see a more interesting fight once Loma starts winning. Fans will love to see him holding the belt as they will expect
more challenger to chase fighting him.

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Speaking of Loma, he has been vocal about Tank Davis and he said that Tank needs to face tough opponent so that he can be recognized. I think we all agree to that, he just face Isaac Cruz and then Rolly Romero in his last 2 fights and not all of us are familiar with that name. And also Loma praises Shakur, and admit that they have sparred in the past at 126-130 but admit that Stevenson is very different now as he is bigger and poise to make it to 135 lbs and which he is trying to get all his belt back. And if Loma wins here, we expect a fight between him and Haney next year and that will be big. As for Ortiz, even if he losses this fight, this is still a good experience to put under his belt and he could be a champion later down the road.


The expectations from the fans really into the side of Loma, knowing that he's on a mission to bring down Haney after this fight, chasing for the belt and regaining the hype will bring loma more money fight. Still too early for conclusion, but the upper hand and the favorite already been eyed to Loma, it's more on Ortiz exposure and how he will try to upset the heavy favorite.

We might see a more interesting fight once Loma starts winning. Fans will love to see him holding the belt as they will expect
more challenger to chase fighting him.

It's already interesting seeing Loma vs Haney, so let's hope that Loma will win this fight as he has not fought a real champion since he got defeated by Lopez. It's his comeback fight, a win is a must for him to face Haney, otherwise, he has to start over again which we don't want to see.

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Speaking of Loma, he has been vocal about Tank Davis and he said that Tank needs to face tough opponent so that he can be recognized. I think we all agree to that, he just face Isaac Cruz and then Rolly Romero in his last 2 fights and not all of us are familiar with that name. And also Loma praises Shakur, and admit that they have sparred in the past at 126-130 but admit that Stevenson is very different now as he is bigger and poise to make it to 135 lbs and which he is trying to get all his belt back. And if Loma wins here, we expect a fight between him and Haney next year and that will be big. As for Ortiz, even if he losses this fight, this is still a good experience to put under his belt and he could be a champion later down the road.


The expectations from the fans really into the side of Loma, knowing that he's on a mission to bring down Haney after this fight, chasing for the belt and regaining the hype will bring loma more money fight. Still too early for conclusion, but the upper hand and the favorite already been eyed to Loma, it's more on Ortiz exposure and how he will try to upset the heavy favorite.

We might see a more interesting fight once Loma starts winning. Fans will love to see him holding the belt as they will expect
more challenger to chase fighting him.

It's already interesting seeing Loma vs Haney, so let's hope that Loma will win this fight as he has not fought a real champion since he got defeated by Lopez. It's his comeback fight, a win is a must for him to face Haney, otherwise, he has to start over again which we don't want to see.
He fought a very tough opponent in Nakatani though, and the former champion Richard Commey, so I would say that is already a impressive comeback fight from Loma. However, we all know what happen next, and then he is on another comeback trail against Ortiz. So everyone is expecting the Loma will win here so that he will fight for the belt against Devin Haney.

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