Influence of "Paid" Streamers on Online gambling.....

[lionheart78]

Just to make something clear .... not all Streamers of gambling content are "Paid" streamers or affiliates of casinos.... some use their own money. (Example : Syztmz)

I doubt that such streamers exists in significant numbers. Most of streamers is paid by casino to promote it service. Or to dishwash money from columbian cocaine leaders  

I agree that not all streamers are being sponsored by the casino since there is a requirement to be sponsored by a casino.  Those who don't meet the requirement gamble with their own money.  These are small-time streamers, and new streamer trying their luck in the industry.

On the flip side of the coin..... Some people believe that "Paid" streamers are actually "feeding" or "funding" other people's large wins. They can only "sweep" other peoples funds, when they win.... if someone else win before them... the opposite happens... right?

This is wrong, because most of such streamers, at least in such countries as russia, play with a fake money given to them by casino. This money doesn't affect jack-pot probability to other gamblers.

They are not fake money, they are called sponsored money because the money used is real money owned by the sponsoring casino.

[crzy]

Influencers are known for being hired by such sites to promote their gambling site. There is nothing wrong with that in itself. That is the type of revenue model. I once read an article with which amounts these people earn. Judging by that data, we can safely conclude that the influence of an influencer on the gambling world is enormous. Gamblers have more confidence when they see a well-known streamer or influencer playing on a gambling site and especially when they see that large sums of money are won there. In the end, it is just a matter of trust.

Influencers usually picky on choosing what to advertise since this can ruin their reputation if they introduce bad projects and that’s why they focused on their income from streaming than to have a partnership with any project, that means they can play whatever they like without any pressure of getting bashed because they didn’t advertise at all. If some streamers advertised a site or a project then it’s ok because that is extra money for them and we should not always depend on those advertisements, we should still analyze on our own and know if the site is really ok to use or not at all.

If there’s a good offer probably those streamers can’t say no to that, they are gamblers and we are talking about streamers here that focuses on gambling, I doubt if they can really say no to the offer and if that guy is still not into any partnership, then probably he is making a lot of money from streaming alone and don’t want to hurt his reputation because that’s his main stream. It’s really ok to go into a partnership with the site, just make sure its a good and legit site so you can still be safe.

[samcrypto]

If there’s a good offer probably those streamers can’t say no to that, they are gamblers and we are talking about streamers here that focuses on gambling, I doubt if they can really say no to the offer and if that guy is still not into any partnership, then probably he is making a lot of money from streaming alone and don’t want to hurt his reputation because that’s his main stream. It’s really ok to go into a partnership with the site, just make sure its a good and legit site so you can still be safe.

They really need to protect their reputation because it's their source of income but did you know having your basher can also increase traffic in your channel so this can be good no unless you introduce scam projects.

Streamers know when to have a deal with the gambling site, If I'm an influencer I will also choose the top site because there's a lesser risk that it will turn out into a scam project. Some may not have to deal with the other site and I believe them, especially if they are into gambling for many years now and still doing the same stream all the time. This might be a good extra profit for those streamers but I guess some are also afraid and don't want to do that because of many restrictions and requirements.

[livingfree]

They are not fake money, they are called sponsored money because the money used is real money owned by the sponsoring casino.

I used to see people telling that the money given is fake money and they're thinking like that because it's a sponsored one. You're right that it's not fake money because technically, it's real money.

The casino sponsors the money these streamers go to on their stream for betting. It's part of the marketing but we don't know what's with the winnings if the streamer can claim, although it's possible so that the viewers can say it's legit if they show the streamer is cashing out.

[AmoreJaz]

They are not fake money, they are called sponsored money because the money used is real money owned by the sponsoring casino.

I used to see people telling that the money given is fake money and they're thinking like that because it's a sponsored one. You're right that it's not fake money because technically, it's real money.

The casino sponsors the money these streamers go to on their stream for betting. It's part of the marketing but we don't know what's with the winnings if the streamer can claim, although it's possible so that the viewers can say it's legit if they show the streamer is cashing out.

that's what we don't know about. if they have prior arrangements once the streamer wins big time. of course, they won't disclose whatever is happening behind the curtain. their goal is basically attract as many players as they can. bottomline, better do your own digging when it comes to casino. most streamers are click bait with what they are endorsing with.

[BitcoinPanther]

Paid streamers show the beauty of online gambling by betting huge amount of money (which is possibly sponsored by the casino they are promoting ) and winning.  This kind of scenario has huge impact on viewers.  Streamers inculcates an idea of winning huge that triggers interest of the person watching the stream.

The casino sponsors the money these streamers go to on their stream for betting. It's part of the marketing but we don't know what's with the winnings if the streamer can claim, although it's possible so that the viewers can say it's legit if they show the streamer is cashing out.

If I am not mistaken, I heard that they have a percentage on the winnings.  I happen to read it on one of the comment on the gambling video in YT.

[harizen]

I'm sure most viewers are not being influenced by those streamers. It's just that they love the content and they actually gamblers. Sometimes, there are promotions to lure the viewers to that stream like there's a big giveaway, rewards, or something along those lines but don't really follow what the streamer is doing on its content.

On the part of paid streamers, we should not take this as a big deal that they are not playing seriously. Surely, they are playing seriously even with the use of partnership's funds since the goal is to establish a win on that content. The same RTP and chances of winning are applied regardless of where the credits used came from.

More importantly, it's not just streamers will have to just show the content only. They need to be energetic and not boring in order for viewers to be entertained.

[Yogee]

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Am just getting fussed when we are talking of streaming. I thought that streaming is same thing as gambling.

Google the word streaming. It's just a person playing while "broadcasting" the game live using social media like Twitch. That person is called a streamer. The issue raised here is that streamers are sponsored by these casinos to play in their platform. That means they get paid or given money and they use that to bet.

[Vaskiy]

Very few gets interested and does same as the streamers do. The majority including me just enjoy the moment and move on, because we know well that it is hard to win out of gambling without luck. Majority of the players follow streamers just to get entertained along with some tips. The very first post itself described about the paid streamers. We don't have much of them.

[goinmerry]

Long story short, I'm not being influenced by streamers but rather, if I saw something interesting on that content, I will consider watching those and see if there's really good entertainment behind that stream that will entertain me. I already watched lots of gambling-related content and it's not with the site that usually the reason why I'm watching those but the way streamer is doing their acts. That's the reason why it was getting lots of views as the streamer is good at his skills in hosting the content.

I'm not also taking it as a big question if those streamers are being paid or not by the gambling site they are promoting.

As long as they streamed a legit website, that's all good. That's what matters.

[Mahanton]

Very few gets interested and does same as the streamers do. The majority including me just enjoy the moment and move on, because we know well that it is hard to win out of gambling without luck. Majority of the players follow streamers just to get entertained along with some tips. The very first post itself described about the paid streamers. We don't have much of them.

If we do look on facebook where there are lots of streamers and other platforms as well which it is understandable that some of them are getting paid and some are just totally doing their own vlogs or streams hoping that
they could really get up some viewers and building up their reputation overtime. Speaking about influence then it cant really be denied that it could really give out that kind of vibe and interest
on following on what they've been doing specially if they are winning where people do really get interested and doing the same thing and hope that they would get on the same outcome or results.
It could neither put or give some influence into other people or not and it does vary on personal choice.

[STT]

Any publicity is good publicity, a timeless simple description of why the gambling sites will gain from such exposure.    Really doesn't matter on the context beyond that but some will consider a gamble just from seeing a large stream on a general public site and they would not have otherwise considered the question of gambling or especially usage of that game/slot etc.
  It is advertising even if its purely freelance in its manner, maybe its more powerful for being unscripted I think.   Alot of people reject anything in particular they think they are being spoon-fed, even if the caster is losing in games its still likely less diluted by this effect then standard attempts to publicize a game, site or avenue of betting available.
   Like it or not influence is probably a real thing that works across the whole advertising industry, maybe we'll move on in ten years to other things but seems people get their attention captured by being more involved with a real person and a still unfolding story of win or loss simple as it might be.

[ralle14]

On the flip side of the coin..... Some people believe that "Paid" streamers are actually "feeding" or "funding" other people's large wins. They can only "sweep" other peoples funds, when they win.... if someone else win before them... the opposite happens... right?

That is an interesting point of view but then again the feeding strategy shouldn't work or affect other people's gameplay since most casino games are still luck based in the end so even if they keep feeding it, there's still no guarantee they're taking the funds of other gamblers.

If I am not mistaken, I heard that they have a percentage on the winnings.  I happen to read it on one of the comment on the gambling video in YT.

I also remember one of the gambling streamers i've watched said a similar response but I think the winnings don't matter since they'll end up putting it back in the casino as they continue playing.

[adzino]

This has been a contentious issue and a common discussion under online gambling for a long time... and I want us to talk about this too. 

How does the "Paid" Streamers ..influence other gamblers experience? So, the common assumption is that "Paid" streamers basically have limitless funds that are paid by the casinos. They can play, until the Slot pays them, where other people play until their money runs out. (This is a misconception obviously, because the outcome of each bet is determined by it's seed and the Slots variance and RTP)

People are also saying that "Paid" streamers are basically "sweeping" all money that are being played by others on those specific slots. (You often hear people saying... "I cannot play XXX Slot now, because streamer YYY won big on that Slot) - If I am correct... all funds that are played in a casino goes into one "Pot" .....and wins are paid out of that... or in the case of a Jackpot system.. into a "Pot" at the 3rd party service provider. (Is this true or false...any experts out there that can clear this up?)

Just to make something clear .... not all Streamers of gambling content are "Paid" streamers or affiliates of casinos.... some use their own money. (Example : Syztmz)

Can a "Paid" streamer or an expert from a casino... please help with some factual inputs, so that we can clear up any misconceptions?

On the flip side of the coin..... Some people believe that "Paid" streamers are actually "feeding" or "funding" other people's large wins. They can only "sweep" other peoples funds, when they win.... if someone else win before them... the opposite happens... right?

Let's discuss.... and enjoy this thread please. 

Like you said, they are "Paid" streamers. They get paid for streaming. The funds they use for gambling belongs to the casino. As far as I know, if they win anything, they aren't allowed to withdraw those funds and has to return it to the casinos. Hence when they place bets, they are literally risking nothing hence they place bets without feeling pressured. Seeing those streamers gambling carefree (and without any worries) and their excitement/enthusiasm is what makes other want to gamble.

Actually only Drake and Eddie are the only streamer that I know that doing paid advertisement and the rest of the streamers that I’m watching is just streaming for views and content on youtube. Paid or not, I think it’s still the same because they are both showcasing playing gambling. They also just have a limited balance balance for gambling so it’s still feel the same on watching both.

The only thing I like the most on paid streamers are there giveaways. They are giving huge amount on the winners since it’s sponsored compared on DIY streamer that just using there own money.

I bet most of the streamers do get paid and they say they play with their own funds so others feel like they are experiencing someone gamble the real way (with their own money and risks).

[alegotardo]

This has been a contentious issue and a common discussion under online gambling for a long time... and I want us to talk about this too. 

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I don't believe there is a pot like you mentioned, but it is true that many of them earn a lot of money from the casinos themselves to promote them and I go further... I believe that these streamers have some benefit in their user that allows them to have "more luck" than a normal player, giving the false impression that it is very easy to make money.
Anyway, I believe that there are streamers who are legitimate players, but they are a minority.

[Silberman]

This has been a contentious issue and a common discussion under online gambling for a long time... and I want us to talk about this too. 

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I don't believe there is a pot like you mentioned, but it is true that many of them earn a lot of money from the casinos themselves to promote them and I go further... I believe that these streamers have some benefit in their user that allows them to have "more luck" than a normal player, giving the false impression that it is very easy to make money.
Anyway, I believe that there are streamers who are legitimate players, but they are a minority.

While that is possible I think it is way easier for the casino to give those streamers some free money which they can use to gamble without any risk for themselves, that way it doesn't really matter for the streamer if they lose that money because it was never theirs, and this means that it doesn't matter how many times they lose since their money is basically infinite, and at some point they're going to win and then they can post that content and generate a lot of traffic for that casino.

[Eternad]

This has been a contentious issue and a common discussion under online gambling for a long time... and I want us to talk about this too.

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I don't believe there is a pot like you mentioned, but it is true that many of them earn a lot of money from the casinos themselves to promote them and I go further... I believe that these streamers have some benefit in their user that allows them to have "more luck" than a normal player, giving the false impression that it is very easy to make money.
Anyway, I believe that there are streamers who are legitimate players, but they are a minority.

Maybe some casino provide streamer special account but so far I don’t see that kind of streamer account which they have more luck because most of the gambling streamer that I’m watching keeps busting every time  I watch there stream. Are you watching stream or only the youtube highlights because it’s very rare for me to see a streamer win a huge jackpot prize.

They are getting most of there income on subscription and views. The casino payment to them is just a minor compensation for promoting and risking there money playing.

[ralle14]

I don't believe there is a pot like you mentioned, but it is true that many of them earn a lot of money from the casinos themselves to promote them and I go further... I believe that these streamers have some benefit in their user that allows them to have "more luck" than a normal player, giving the false impression that it is very easy to make money.
Anyway, I believe that there are streamers who are legitimate players, but they are a minority.

I doubt that streamers have more luck than regular gamblers since most of the streamers I watch tend to lose and burn most of their balance real quick even if it's fake money. There are times when they'll have a big win moment but usually, it's not enough to cover their entire losses when we include their past sessions. But still, they have other ways of making money from it like through those referral codes and possibly a contract they have discussed with the casino.

[xSkylarx]

How does the "Paid" Streamers ..influence other gamblers experience?

Just to make something clear .... not all Streamers of gambling content are "Paid" streamers or affiliates of casinos

Even if they are not sponsored by the casino, viewers and other gamblers are highly influenced to gamble on that particular website that a streamer is using when he shares his winning from it on social media. We know that social media has become a huge factor that affects our pleasures in life. Even in other stuffs not just gambling, we are easily swayed to try the product or platform when a popular personality is using it.

[Fortify]

This has been a contentious issue and a common discussion under online gambling for a long time... and I want us to talk about this too. 

How does the "Paid" Streamers ..influence other gamblers experience? So, the common assumption is that "Paid" streamers basically have limitless funds that are paid by the casinos. They can play, until the Slot pays them, where other people play until their money runs out. (This is a misconception obviously, because the outcome of each bet is determined by it's seed and the Slots variance and RTP)

People are also saying that "Paid" streamers are basically "sweeping" all money that are being played by others on those specific slots. (You often hear people saying... "I cannot play XXX Slot now, because streamer YYY won big on that Slot) - If I am correct... all funds that are played in a casino goes into one "Pot" .....and wins are paid out of that... or in the case of a Jackpot system.. into a "Pot" at the 3rd party service provider. (Is this true or false...any experts out there that can clear this up?)

Just to make something clear .... not all Streamers of gambling content are "Paid" streamers or affiliates of casinos.... some use their own money. (Example : Syztmz)

Can a "Paid" streamer or an expert from a casino... please help with some factual inputs, so that we can clear up any misconceptions?

On the flip side of the coin..... Some people believe that "Paid" streamers are actually "feeding" or "funding" other people's large wins. They can only "sweep" other peoples funds, when they win.... if someone else win before them... the opposite happens... right?

Let's discuss.... and enjoy this thread please. 

It's like anything, I would guess that there are some genuine players out there - who are using their own funds and have no association with the casino. However they are likely to be swamped and crowded out by more manipulative players. At the end of the day, casino operators are a financial type business, they want to get as much money flowing through their operation as possible and in the modern world where Twitch and other platforms allow this kind of streaming, it is clear that it can be abused by operators to drum up more business. As we all know, streamers can grow a rather large fan base who might flock to copy whatever activity they're doing at the moment and even beyond that casual viewers might also be intrigued enough to drop some money on it. It seems like a very high return to reward situation for any casino that can engineer such promotion.