Influence of "Paid" Streamers on Online gambling.....

[bekti3]

I don't believe there is a pot like you mentioned, but it is true that many of them earn a lot of money from the casinos themselves to promote them and I go further... I believe that these streamers have some benefit in their user that allows them to have "more luck" than a normal player, giving the false impression that it is very easy to make money.
Anyway, I believe that there are streamers who are legitimate players, but they are a minority.

I doubt that streamers have more luck than regular gamblers since most of the streamers I watch tend to lose and burn most of their balance real quick even if it's fake money. There are times when they'll have a big win moment but usually, it's not enough to cover their entire losses when we include their past sessions. But still, they have other ways of making money from it like through those referral codes and possibly a contract they have discussed with the casino.

Well it's clear when they have an agreement there must be arrangements for the account they have so that no matter how fast they burn their balance it will still come back again and again and even tend to be more.
Because if they burn but lose and run out then it's clear who will want to come there because there are still many naive people who come to one site just because they see other people getting a big enough profit.

[rahmad2nd]

Just to make something clear .... not all Streamers of gambling content are "Paid" streamers or affiliates of casinos....

We are well aware that not all gambling streamers are "paid" there are some independent streamers who create gambling content just for fun.
usually unpaid streamers won't be creating intense content every day, there are several differences between paid and unpaid streamers, one of which I have already mentioned.
usually streamers who do promotions, they act professionally and they will create content as often as possible, it can be every day and at a set time, will always be accompanied by promotions and share giveaways, they will also put a casino link and share their referral code.
I personally don't think the gambling streamers are a problem, sometimes their content is quite entertaining.

[Adbitco]

Do you think is everyone who devote their time running an advert without payment, and even if they do there should be a partnership between them. The rest who create contents does it in their self gain btw is limited.

So, the common assumption is that "Paid" streamers basically have limitless funds that are paid by the casinos. They can play, until the Slot pays them, where other people play until their money runs out.

This could be likely true, since they have limitless slot and basically is to attract viewer or seeking much attention to partake in game.

Some people believe that "Paid" streamers are actually "feeding" or "funding" other people's large wins.

This is very difficult to believe there are some fact you must consider why saying this, basically what if they funds and at turns fails or lost what would be their fate?
No so i don't think this happened.

[livingfree]

They are not fake money, they are called sponsored money because the money used is real money owned by the sponsoring casino.

I used to see people telling that the money given is fake money and they're thinking like that because it's a sponsored one. You're right that it's not fake money because technically, it's real money.

The casino sponsors the money these streamers go to on their stream for betting. It's part of the marketing but we don't know what's with the winnings if the streamer can claim, although it's possible so that the viewers can say it's legit if they show the streamer is cashing out.

that's what we don't know about. if they have prior arrangements once the streamer wins big time. of course, they won't disclose whatever is happening behind the curtain. their goal is basically attract as many players as they can. bottomline, better do your own digging when it comes to casino. most streamers are click bait with what they are endorsing with.

It's all about the exposure that the casino is getting and we're out of their deal whether the streamer wins big or not. It's all for the show and they don't care about it because they're paid to do it.

Just as the obvious with the streamers, they're mentioning that it's a sponsored stream and the casino or any company they have an arrangement and it's visible on their screen, they make their audience aware of that.

The casino sponsors the money these streamers go to on their stream for betting. It's part of the marketing but we don't know what's with the winnings if the streamer can claim, although it's possible so that the viewers can say it's legit if they show the streamer is cashing out.

If I am not mistaken, I heard that they have a percentage on the winnings.  I happen to read it on one of the comment on the gambling video in YT.

That's one information we got there, thanks.

[KTChampions]

I doubt that streamers have more luck than regular gamblers since most of the streamers I watch tend to lose and burn most of their balance real quick even if it's fake money. There are times when they'll have a big win moment but usually, it's not enough to cover their entire losses when we include their past sessions. But still, they have other ways of making money from it like through those referral codes and possibly a contract they have discussed with the casino.

Anyway, the demand for advertising from streamers is high, so I doubt that any of them work only for referral registrations or something like that. Also, streaming casinos are always a reputation blow (unless the streamer originally worked in this area), so I'm sure that they work for clearly defined amounts and not for "potential" earnings.

[dothebeats]

I don't believe there is a pot like you mentioned, but it is true that many of them earn a lot of money from the casinos themselves to promote them and I go further... I believe that these streamers have some benefit in their user that allows them to have "more luck" than a normal player, giving the false impression that it is very easy to make money.
Anyway, I believe that there are streamers who are legitimate players, but they are a minority.

I doubt that streamers have more luck than regular gamblers since most of the streamers I watch tend to lose and burn most of their balance real quick even if it's fake money. There are times when they'll have a big win moment but usually, it's not enough to cover their entire losses when we include their past sessions. But still, they have other ways of making money from it like through those referral codes and possibly a contract they have discussed with the casino.

Some streamers' sessions are actually rigged to give out more wins than losses to entice new players to register and play. What you see are honest advertisers not wanting to rig their game or that they have an agremeent with the casino that aside from the payment, they can also keep their legit winnings should there be any. But then you'll never guess who's the legitimate player based only on the win/loss ratio.

[Oasisman]

Not a huge fan of online gaming and gambling streamers, but one thing I've noticed is that they are not paid by anyone or any big companies especially when they're still building their reputation and viewers. Once they acquire huge audience, that's where companies starts offering you handsome amount to use their website. Online gambling companies and the streamer can easily deny that they don't have any partnership or connections.
So, nobody is really certain whether or not these gamblers were just plainly advertising the website or taking advantage of their clients.

[Porfirii]

Some streamers' sessions are actually rigged to give out more wins than losses to entice new players to register and play. What you see are honest advertisers not wanting to rig their game or that they have an agremeent with the casino that aside from the payment, they can also keep their legit winnings should there be any. But then you'll never guess who's the legitimate player based only on the win/loss ratio.

This is like these videos (ADs) where you can see people playing Bingo online via an App in their mobile phone and they win 2,000/35,000/250,000 dollars or whatever amount and it goes directly to their PayPal account

One shouldn't believe in these lies, especially when they are so obvious. But streamers can seem sincere, some are charismatic... in these cases the deception can be more subtle. Needless to say that some people are predisposed to be deceived.

[babygun]

Not a huge fan of online gaming and gambling streamers, but one thing I've noticed is that they are not paid by anyone or any big companies especially when they're still building their reputation and viewers. Once they acquire huge audience, that's where companies starts offering you handsome amount to use their website. Online gambling companies and the streamer can easily deny that they don't have any partnership or connections.
So, nobody is really certain whether or not these gamblers were just plainly advertising the website or taking advantage of their clients.

Some of the more famous streamers on youtube and twitch, announce that the videos they make are sponsored by the gambling sites they are playing on (i.e. Xposed). Personally, I have nothing against it and sometimes it is just and entertaining to watch especially in they win big amounts.

[ultrloa]

Not a huge fan of online gaming and gambling streamers, but one thing I've noticed is that they are not paid by anyone or any big companies especially when they're still building their reputation and viewers. Once they acquire huge audience, that's where companies starts offering you handsome amount to use their website. Online gambling companies and the streamer can easily deny that they don't have any partnership or connections.
So, nobody is really certain whether or not these gamblers were just plainly advertising the website or taking advantage of their clients.

Some of the more famous streamers on youtube and twitch, announce that the videos they make are sponsored by the gambling sites they are playing on (i.e. Xposed). Personally, I have nothing against it and sometimes it is just and entertaining to watch especially in they win big amounts.

Nothing really bad on what they are doing since at the end of the day they just want to have fun and promote entertain to their channels, maybe there's part of it is for earning purposes but we can really take that as normal and it will only depends on their speculators on how they view on what those famous streamers do to their channels.

We are still responsible to ourselves that's why there'd a reminder bet responsibly to remind us that any excessive behavior toward gambling is destructive to us.

[ethereumhunter]

I don't believe there is a pot like you mentioned, but it is true that many of them earn a lot of money from the casinos themselves to promote them and I go further... I believe that these streamers have some benefit in their user that allows them to have "more luck" than a normal player, giving the false impression that it is very easy to make money.
Anyway, I believe that there are streamers who are legitimate players, but they are a minority.

I doubt that streamers have more luck than regular gamblers since most of the streamers I watch tend to lose and burn most of their balance real quick even if it's fake money. There are times when they'll have a big win moment but usually, it's not enough to cover their entire losses when we include their past sessions. But still, they have other ways of making money from it like through those referral codes and possibly a contract they have discussed with the casino.

Well it's clear when they have an agreement there must be arrangements for the account they have so that no matter how fast they burn their balance it will still come back again and again and even tend to be more.
Because if they burn but lose and run out then it's clear who will want to come there because there are still many naive people who come to one site just because they see other people getting a big enough profit.

The luck of streamers or other gamblers will not be much different but streamers have other advantages that other gamblers do not have. The luck is that they cooperate with the casino in providing an entertaining spectacle and maybe the spectacle will tempt the audience to follow the streamer to play gambling. The casino will compensate for the loss earned by the streamer because the casino needs promotion from the streamer so that they will help the streamer to provide an interesting spectacle. In the end greedy people who want to win will follow that streamer and use their money to gamble mindlessly to keep their money.

[goldkingcoiner]

If you ask me I think paid streamers are faking gambling. Its probably all in a secret agreement between them and the gambling casino...

They might, as someone else in this thread already mentioned, get a bunch of fake funds to gamble with, so when they win they can make it look like they made a lot of money and if they lose then they do not actually lose anything of value. Furthermore its all obvious PR and advertisements to get money by referalls. And even if there are regulations in place to prevent this "fake gambling" then the streamers would find a way to fake their winnings for the views anyway without the gambling casino partnerships. They would still get a lot of money from the referalls and other income sources from their viewers.

Obviously the referall reward cost is taken into account and comes from the casino's gambling turnover. So in the end, its the viewers paying the streamers for duping them into gambling.

[Mauser]

On the flip side of the coin..... Some people believe that "Paid" streamers are actually "feeding" or "funding" other people's large wins. They can only "sweep" other peoples funds, when they win.... if someone else win before them... the opposite happens... right?

That is true, but isn't it the money from the casino in the end? The casino pays the streamer to spread their games and offer online marketing to them, so all the money the streamer wins or losses is always from the casino. Instead of feeding the jackpot through paid players, the casino could have started the jackpot higher. I am not against streamers at all, it's part now of the new Internet culture. There are people who like to show the whole world what they are doing, and then there are people who prefer watching others than risking large sums themselves. But when it comes to gambling streamers I think that most people are very critical. TV is always flashy and enjoys to exaggerate reality, it feels the same happens in the streaming world. It's hard to believe everything we see online is legit and I don't think I the same luck happens to me. But atleast gambling streamer are entertaining.

[dimonstration]

Not a huge fan of online gaming and gambling streamers, but one thing I've noticed is that they are not paid by anyone or any big companies especially when they're still building their reputation and viewers. Once they acquire huge audience, that's where companies starts offering you handsome amount to use their website. Online gambling companies and the streamer can easily deny that they don't have any partnership or connections.
So, nobody is really certain whether or not these gamblers were just plainly advertising the website or taking advantage of their clients.

Some of the more famous streamers on youtube and twitch, announce that the videos they make are sponsored by the gambling sites they are playing on (i.e. Xposed). Personally, I have nothing against it and sometimes it is just and entertaining to watch especially in they win big amounts.

Exactly, knowing that they are sponsored doesn’t affect the content that they are providing because they are just doing there job to give entertainment to viewers by providing there encouraging gambling content. Being sponsored doesn’t mean there video is fake. They just received payment or bonus to use in the casino but the winnings is legit that will go to there pocket same when they lose because they have there personal money stored in there balance during streaming.

[Cling18]

If you ask me I think paid streamers are faking gambling. Its probably all in a secret agreement between them and the gambling casino...

They might, as someone else in this thread already mentioned, get a bunch of fake funds to gamble with, so when they win they can make it look like they made a lot of money and if they lose then they do not actually lose anything of value. Furthermore its all obvious PR and advertisements to get money by referalls. And even if there are regulations in place to prevent this "fake gambling" then the streamers would find a way to fake their winnings for the views anyway without the gambling casino partnerships. They would still get a lot of money from the referalls and other income sources from their viewers.

Obviously the referral reward cost is taken into account and comes from the casino's gambling turnover. So in the end, it's the viewers paying the streamers for duping them into gambling.

This is possible and they're all doing these things in the name of money. They uplift the gambling site by gaining their wins which will benefit both site and the paid streamers. But of course, they will not admit it though their winnings are too good to be true. Their goal is to attract more players by making them believe that they could win as much as the streamers win. The viewers who fall for their trap don't really matter to them so we should be wise and skeptical because not all that we can watch or see on the internet is true.

[molsewid]

Exactly, knowing that they are sponsored doesn’t affect the content that they are providing because they are just doing there job to give entertainment to viewers by providing there encouraging gambling content. Being sponsored doesn’t mean there video is fake. They just received payment or bonus to use in the casino but the winnings is legit that will go to there pocket same when they lose because they have there personal money stored in there balance during streaming.

I agree, why do they need to fake the game just like other people in this thread is saying? It will reflect to the owner of the casino or the website, they make a collaborations with the streamers so that they will gain popularity and they don't want to lose people trust by faking the winning of the streamers whether they are winning or losing or streaming other content. Streamers job is to entertain other people.

[Kakmakr]

Just to clarify something.....

I see a lot of lazy people that are simply reading the "Subject" of this thread and then commenting on how Streamers are affecting people to start gambling.... and this is not what we are talking about here.... read the first post!

We are talking about how "paid" streamers are affecting the players experience that are already gambling on the different sites. (funding other players wins with the money they get from the casinos or even sweeping the funds that other people are playing.... )

We need casino experts to debunk assumptions or to confirm it.... if possible.

[AicecreaME]

When it comes to paid advertising of gambling websites thru videos made by streamers, the influence could be case to case basis. If we are talking about the streamer's influence on players encouragement to play in a specific website they are promoting, the rate will vary depending on their reputation, on how famous they are, and how reliable the information they are giving.

On the other hand, if the influence we are talking about is regarding gambling habits, this will depend on the gambler himself. Because despite the streamer's effort to influence and educate, we still have the final say on the decisions and actions that we will make most especially on our gambling habits and methods.

[Wakate]

I doubt that streamers have more luck than regular gamblers since most of the streamers I watch tend to lose and burn most of their balance real quick even if it's fake money. There are times when they'll have a big win moment but usually, it's not enough to cover their entire losses when we include their past sessions. But still, they have other ways of making money from it like through those referral codes and possibly a contract they have discussed with the casino.

Anyway, the demand for advertising from streamers is high, so I doubt that any of them work only for referral registrations or something like that. Also, streaming casinos are always a reputation blow (unless the streamer originally worked in this area), so I'm sure that they work for clearly defined amounts and not for "potential" earnings.

The impact of streamers on a casinos is very high that is why they are always posting there results on social media with other strategies they uses to invite more gamblers into the casino. They job of a streamer is a lucrative one and those that have sites and large betting predictions groups like on Telegram and Facebook will tend to make more referrals because of there large followers and interesting results they get from playing on that particular Casino.

[South Park]

I doubt that streamers have more luck than regular gamblers since most of the streamers I watch tend to lose and burn most of their balance real quick even if it's fake money. There are times when they'll have a big win moment but usually, it's not enough to cover their entire losses when we include their past sessions. But still, they have other ways of making money from it like through those referral codes and possibly a contract they have discussed with the casino.

Anyway, the demand for advertising from streamers is high, so I doubt that any of them work only for referral registrations or something like that. Also, streaming casinos are always a reputation blow (unless the streamer originally worked in this area), so I'm sure that they work for clearly defined amounts and not for "potential" earnings.

The impact of streamers on a casinos is very high that is why they are always posting there results on social media with other strategies they uses to invite more gamblers into the casino. They job of a streamer is a lucrative one and those that have sites and large betting predictions groups like on Telegram and Facebook will tend to make more referrals because of there large followers and interesting results they get from playing on that particular Casino.

I think that as time passes streamers are getting more and more influential, after all it is completely different to read a referral and to watch the referral, as they say one word is worth a thousand words, and as such the streamers can transmit way more in the same amount of time than someone referring others in writing form, and this means they are more effective than probably any other medium used by casinos to try to get clients, which is why we are seeing casinos investing more and more money on them.