We are all Hodlonaut

[o_e_l_e_o]

Well here we go, this is going to be like a football match but in slow-motion...

I read that apparently Bitcoin Magazine were given permission to film the trial, but I see no mention of that on their website or Twitter, which is a shame. Would have been great to be able to watch for ourselves rather than relying on Tweets.

From bitnorbert, it seems Hodlonaut's team are bringing up many of CSW's previous lies - the fake Sartre signature, the KPMG analysis, now his falsified blog posts. And perhaps this tweet explains why CSW has an enormous legal team with him: https://nitter.it/Pat_McCat/status/1569273798352052225

At least this judge knows not to ask CSW for an oath (under penalty of prejury).

Never stopped him before:

Rather, as described above, the evidence establishes that he has engaged in a willful and bad faith pattern of obstructive behavior, including submitting incomplete or deceptive pleadings, filing a false declaration, knowingly producing a fraudulent trust document, and giving perjurious testimony at the evidentiary hearing.

[aoluain]

So the trial has begun.

Here are a couple of Norwegian bitcoin users who are in attendance and will be tweeting some updates as the trial progresses:
https://nitter.it/kristiandoble/
https://nitter.it/bitnorbert

According to bitnorbert, so far we have just had the opening statement from Hodlonaut's team. His latest tweet so far is interesting - an analysis from KPMG stating that some of CSW's documents (not yet clear which ones) are fraudulent. Will be interesting to see what comes of that, especially give the outcome of CSW's last trial where the judge found CSW "not to be a witness of truth" and made a "deliberately false case".

YES - here we go, hodlonaut's team have come out ALL GUNS BLAZING and bringing the
judge up to speed with Bitcoin and some history regarding Satoshi and then on the shady
history surrounding CSW's previous deceptions.

The memory stick from a BBC reporter is interesting and the KPMG report is a great strike.

Following > https://nitter.it/bitnorbert

Thank you o_e_l_e_o

[BlackHatCoiner]

The value of this post, according to the manager that pays for this signature, goes straight to Hodlonaut's Lightning wallet! 

What did OgNasty mean with that comment though? I thought: maybe a new conspiracy theory.

He probably meant the real Satoshi wins in the end as he, along with lots of others, presumes Hal was Satoshi. It makes a little sense if you think about it. Satoshi disappeared when Hal was diagnosed. Hal was the first person to make a Bitcoin transaction. Hal had been working on Proof-of-Work. A person named "Satoshi Nakamoto" was living near his area. Still though, not even close to evidence.

[franky1]

https://twitter.com/bitnorbert/status/1569219672754757632

UK time: 8:01am
Judge has entered. Court is in session.

https://twitter.com/bitnorbert/status/1569220917644955649

UK time: 8:06am
Judge: Craig being Satoshi will not be considered.

first shot aimed at CSW. perfect hit
hope it hurts CSW

[Mbitr]

Here’s another good guy/thread to follow - very up to date

https://twitter.com/kurtwuckertjr?s=21&t=63pDIpCVQPHja8ieZdQwPQ

[o_e_l_e_o]

Judge: Craig being Satoshi will not be considered.

I'm not sure I follow why this is? Surely whether or not CSW is Satoshi (he isn't) is core to determining whether or not Hodlonaut's statements were libelous? If the judge rightly finds that CSW is not Satoshi, then any statements saying he is not Satoshi are not libel are simply become a statement of fact (legally speaking of course, since such statements are already factual).

Here’s another good guy/thread to follow - very up to date

This individual is employed by CoinGeek (which is a BSV shill site owned and operated by Calvin Ayre) and lists himself as the founder of a BSV based company in Florida, so expect a very biased interpretation from these tweets.

There's a missing email that Hodlonaut's side hasn't been handed because Wright's American lawyer has pneumonia. I'm not making this up.

Wright's Norwegian lawyer said they'll see what they can do. Pretty late at this point.

Lol. We are still on Hodlonaut's opening statement and already CSW has started his shenanigans.

[Lucius]

Lol. We are still on Hodlonaut's opening statement and already CSW has started his shenanigans.

How many times will the Faketoshi team mention GA and his support when he was convinced that CW was Satoshi? I will never stop being amazed at how a (for the most part) brilliant mind like Gavin Andresen turned out to be a big fool for supporting him at one time, although I will always find it very strange that Satoshi collaborated with him at all and left him with too much influence.




Let the judge take this into account and compensate the mental pain of our doctor Faketoshi with, say, 1 satoshi for each disputed tweet - that is more than fair considering the past verdict - in 10 years, Faketoshi will collect enough for a whole box of chocolates

[franky1]

Judge: Craig being Satoshi will not be considered.

I'm not sure I follow why this is? Surely whether or not CSW is Satoshi (he isn't) is core to determining whether or not Hodlonaut's statements were libelous?

the judge wanted to make it clear that CSW was not to use the trial verdict as "proof of satoshi" if the verdict was to give CSW a win

its not a case of getting to prove he is..
its about hodlonaut having an opportunity to prove that hodlonauts comments are fair description of CSW (scammer and fraud)

eg
imagine i seen someone with obviously dyed ginger hair. and i insulted them
its not for them to prove they are naturally/born ginger.
nor does a verdict in their favour mean they are now biologically in their genes ginger. nor is it even about them being temporarily ginger

basically. if i know they dyed(faked) their hair to be ginger. and i called them a "fake plastic orange" .. thats fair i win

if while ginger. i said "eww your a dirty blonde" where it some how lost them their job or lost them money. then i lose.

its not about getting the person i insulted to prove they are a real ginger
nor does any verdict win/lose/draw mean it proves that person is a real born ginger

its about was my insult a fair representation of what i can see and based on available evidence what i can believe to be a informed opinion about the person i see as being a fake ginger where its evident that many already thought and know he is a fake ginger, and that calling him one is just matter of fact freedom of speach

[NotATether]

Anybody wants to bet 0.01BTC that the judge will rule in CSWs favor?* [Naturally, I will bet on the opposite outcome.]

*The final verdict, after all hearings and arguments and counter-arguments over the possibly many days have been concluded.

[Accardo]

Here’s another good guy/thread to follow - very up to date

https://twitter.com/kurtwuckertjr?s=21&t=63pDIpCVQPHja8ieZdQwPQ

He is following the case right there in Norway but, he's a paid shill for CSW working for coingeek
Why does CSW need 9 lawyers to defend him, if he is Satoshi ? a lot of reporters are shilling for CSW, hodlonaut has 2 lawyers lets see how it goes down.

[franky1]

Here’s another good guy/thread to follow - very up to date

https://twitter.com/kurtwuckertjr?s=21&t=63pDIpCVQPHja8ieZdQwPQ

kurt is 100% sniffing the bvs coke
full on bsv addict and not ready to go clean
even if its harming his health and wealth to stick with bsv

he just done a youtube about today. and didnot talk about the details of the stuff said in court as a play-by-play. instead he just wanted to talk about the csw story of how he believes csw invented bitcoin

i gave up watching the video after the second time he wanted to mention the story according to csw

[aoluain]

^
Yea I' m not going to be following that, I was thinking It would be interesting to see what the
'other side' are reporting....
....but then again, I couldnt be bothered.

So yea I'll stick with bitnorbert. Its great to get the running commentry.

Here’s another good guy/thread to follow - very up to date

There's a missing email that Hodlonaut's side hasn't been handed because Wright's American lawyer has pneumonia. I'm not making this up.

Wright's Norwegian lawyer said they'll see what they can do. Pretty late at this point.

Lol. We are still on Hodlonaut's opening statement and already CSW has started his shenanigans.

FFS - I really hope the Judge sees through this crap.

[Mbitr]

Here’s another good guy/thread to follow - very up to date

https://twitter.com/kurtwuckertjr?s=21&t=63pDIpCVQPHja8ieZdQwPQ

Yep - he’s a BSVer , paid by Calvin. But, I wanted to see how CSW and team would be spinning the trial blow by blow. I was waiting to see how they would absurdly twist the facts to spin it . The tweets are very much factual though - read them - admittedly I haven’t seen the YouTube vids .
Faketoshi and team will be spinning this for a win, even if they lose. This court case is just one of many I’ve been following and in every case , wether he loses, they’ll shill it as a win.
Faketoshi is unfortunately a full blown narcissist and will never accept he is wrong/unfactual or Satoshi.

[franky1]

admittedly I haven’t seen the YouTube vids .

kurt spent more time talking about the layout of the court room and how well groomed and dressed they were.
then spent 5 minutes talking about how hodlonauts team were mentioning the CSW past (but he worded it as if hodlonauts team were describing CSW as if csw was involved in bitcoin in 2008)

he then said "for all those not up to date with everything.."
and then went on a rhetoric of how in his bias view he feels how the history plays out where he began with the silly stuff of pretending CSW was involved/thinking up bitcoin as far back as 2005(facepalm) .. i stopped watching at this point.

its was basically a publicity video of fake biography creation.. not a court room drama play by play of what was actually being said in the court room

[Mbitr]

admittedly I haven’t seen the YouTube vids .

kurt spent more time talking about the layout of the court room and how well groomed and dressed they were.
then spent 5 minutes talking about how hodlonauts team were mentioning the CSW past (but he worded it as if hodlonauts team were describing CSW as if csw was involved since 2008)

he then said "for all those not up to date with everything.."
and then went on a rhetoric of how in his bias view he feels how the history plays out where he began with the silly stuff of pretending CSW was involved since 2008 .. i stopped watching at this point.

its was basically a publicity video of fake biography.. not a court room drama play by play

Lol - I’ll presume he’ll be doing YouTube shit every day and I’ll try to catch it when I get a chance , but I’ll definitely be following as many Twitter threads as poss as well as this thread 

[franky1]

Lol - I’ll presume he’ll be doing YouTube shit every day and I’ll try to catch it when I get a chance , but I’ll definitely be following as many Twitter threads as poss as well as this thread 

watch Kurt for examples of lying scum comedy entertainment

but look at
twitter.com/bitnorbert for more of a play by play of whats happening in the court room as it happens

[dark1234]

"I have tried my best and hid the fact that I have been running Bitcoin since 2009," reads part of wright's transcript
Unfortunately, the accuracy of the transcript is questionable, including the place where the interview was conducted. The phrase, 'run' which means the process of mining Bitcoin using a computer is also still unclear.
Which is so weird......
is the support behind the scenes of Wright who is so sensitive to finance a truth that is still ambiguous and unclear, it can even be said to be 100% a falsehood.
although Wright will pay for their cause if they win the court but in truth the supporters are blind and sheer arrogance, because the public will not believe the inventor of the digital currency Bitcoin, Craig Steven Wright.
 And I hope the court closes the case file because there is no accurate evidence and gives strict sanctions for admitting to the inventor of the digital currency Bitcoin, Craig Steven Wright.
This case is still going on not because of Craig Steven Wright but the people behind the scenes
according to me...

[Accardo]

How could CSW say such a thing is it that he doesn't understand the basic properties of the bitcoin blockchain?

[NeuroticFish]

How could CSW say such a thing is it that he doesn't understand the basic properties of the bitcoin blockchain?

It's simple: the judge also doesn't understand them, so he feels safe to tell all kind of weak lies.
Isn't this all he has done on court until now.. with some notable success too?

[franky1]

todays court stuff is CSW's side to talk. and it seems the narrative being set up is this(my opinion of narrative)

(im pro hodlonaut but writing what it appears the CSW side are trying to say)
from 2017 hodlonaut has had a financial incentive to remove competition from the markets by getting things like BSV delisted
where hodlonaut or people beleived to be him under different names set up challenges and campaigns to attack BSV
CSw lawyers mention

Quotes a Hodlonaut tweet from 2017 saying simply "HODL", to illustrate his "economic incentive".

They found a Telegram group called "Bitcoin Plebs" with 404 members. A user called "End The Fed" calls for an attack on "shitcoin scammers", which is said to include BSV. "Who is in for some toxicity?" the user is quoted as having written.

Manshaus says Hodlonaut is at least responsible for the tone on the Telegram group (given his Twitter activity), and may have been directly involved in that group (under another name, I guess?).

"Carlosaugorus" (my best attempt at spelling) was banned, and afterwards a new user called "Hodlosaugorus" (sp?) with a Hodlonaut-like profile pic.

Hodlonaut (I think?) instructed people to use slang and l33t speak to evade Twitter's content filters. Another user agrees to do this.

Says this attack's goal was to get BSV delisted from exchanges. Delisting was to be a "BSV extinction event".

Judge asks if the point was to remove a Bitcoin competitor in order to make Bitcoin's price goes up. Yes, it was. "Ok, that was a stupid question", says judge.

looks like CSW team now trying to set the drama of fake biography to try to turn case into a on the record biography of "proof of satoshi" using witnesses (later this week) to say they knew he invented it (facepalm)

seems he wants to use witness testimony as "proof of satoshi"

..
oh and some basic law facts
in civil cases(which this case is) perjury is not a crime. perjury is usually punishable in criminal cases not civil.. which is what i feel CSW is counting on