[ POLL ] The Unification Fight: FURY vs USYK sponsored by Utopia

[YuginKadoya]

Imho, Usyk has few power than current top heavyweights, because he is originally created to become an Olympic boxing champion. You dont see lots of knockouts during olympic games. Instead we see speed and 3*3min fight. Usyk is trained to score, not to knock out.

I am 1000% sure that his game plan in a fight against Fury would be throwing 4 punches on every punch Fury throw. I have though before and checked, but is Fury ready to keep the fight in such high temp, as Usyk impose him. I believe Fury will get exhausted faster than Usyk.

Oleksandr Usyk is a volume fighter, surely he will take advantage of his speed, not have those deadly strong punches on them and Usyk is not really not gifted on that kind of skill, but he is gifted with speed and added with technical skills in where he should aim his opponent is surely what Usyk does best, I am really intrigued about what is going to happen about this fight, Tyson Fury got the punching strength and even the technical timing on where he will land his punches, while Usyk having the speed will surely give Fury volumes of punches even though it is not that destructive it could be fatal when he surely focus all of that punch on 1 area, and the volume could land him a victory via decision,

Of course, I watched this fight and even reviewed it twice (when watching the replay, I got the same adrenaline). Yes, Usyk will be able to dodge Fury's punches, but Fury is a dirty fighter, he can hit from the clinch or on the back of the head, it's normal for him, but if this fight does happen, then Usyk will have to defeat this dishonorable fighter!

He was named as a slap punch boxer, but no kidding those dirty tactics in my opinion is not really that dirty, I think he has a combination of punches and a hook punch that you would think is for cheating, but I guess any boxer will not even going to notice them when they are in a heated up situation like these and this is boxing there are times they may wrestle their opponent and there is the time it was not really intentional, for me Fury has good feints for Usyk to get ready on,

[bitzizzix]

I would have thought it would be an easy fight for Fury, Usyk is a very skilled boxer but he is not a heavyweight boxer, and his fight with AJ proves size isn't everything.
and I bet on Fury, in a fight that should be no more than 2 to 1 Fury in the window. Uysk has experience imo but size will be a much bigger factor than AJ and Fury size not AJ and also much better than him.

[Welsh]

I would have thought it would be an easy fight for Fury, Usyk is a very skilled boxer but he is not a heavyweight boxer, and his fight with AJ proves size isn't everything.
and I bet on Fury, in a fight that should be no more than 2 to 1 Fury in the window. Uysk has experience imo but size will be a much bigger factor than AJ and Fury size not AJ and also much better than him.

I mean officially he is a heavyweight boxer, and just beat a top three heavyweight boxer, twice. So, the claim that he isn't a heavyweight boxer is inaccurate. While I agree the height advantage, and weight advantage will play a part in Fury's fight with Usyk, I only say that because unlike Joshua, Fury uses his weight to his advantage. You saw it with Wilder, and you could see it taking his toll. However, he's done this throughout his career.

With that tactical advantage, he'll likely be able to slow down Usyk, that he'll become hittable, and therefore I see Fury getting the better of him. Ultimately though, they're very close in terms of technical ability, but again I still think Fury is the better of the two. I think Fury's technical ability is a bit underrated, and that's mainly due to the fact of what I said before, where a larger man usually does look a little more clumsy than a smaller man, even if they're doing very similar movements.

[wxa7115]

Yeah, he Fury seems to have that kind of personality that you are going to like. I mean just an ordinary bloke, just a regular guy you can find in a bar and have a talk with everything under the sun. He had indeed has mental issues thats why he didn't fight for a long time and some problems with drugs too.

I guess everyone has its own opinion on boxers. Floyd get the most hate but for sure there will be fans around telling the opposite.

I also like Fury, I know that some people do not really like him because of his antics but at least to me that makes him human, since it shows you don't need to be perfect in order to reach the very top of one of the most competitive and popular sports around the world, and I take this as a lesson that everyone can learn something from.

Besides we need to also take into account what is behind the comment Fury made, it is obvious that Fury knows that he's not going to receive 500 million for the fight against Usyk, so he's just making a joke, maybe we get to see the fight maybe we don't, but he has the right to set a high price for his services and there is little doubt that an unification fight at the heavyweight division will bring a lot of money to both fighters.

[KTChampions]

I also like Fury, I know that some people do not really like him because of his antics but at least to me that makes him human, since it shows you don't need to be perfect in order to reach the very top of one of the most competitive and popular sports around the world, and I take this as a lesson that everyone can learn something from.

Besides we need to also take into account what is behind the comment Fury made, it is obvious that Fury knows that he's not going to receive 500 million for the fight against Usyk, so he's just making a joke, maybe we get to see the fight maybe we don't, but he has the right to set a high price for his services and there is little doubt that an unification fight at the heavyweight division will bring a lot of money to both fighters.

Fury used doping (nandrolone) was convicted of using cocaine, and ran like a coward from a rematch with Klitschko. I think when you talk about antics, you mean his trash talk, not these actions, right? Personally, it would be strange for me to evaluate this as "the shortcomings that everyone has and that's okay - no one is perfect." 
As for the fee for the fight, there was already information that it would be divided equally between the fighters.

[Welsh]

Fury used doping (nandrolone) was convicted of using cocaine, and ran like a coward from a rematch with Klitschko. I think when you talk about antics, you mean his trash talk, not these actions, right? Personally, it would be strange for me to evaluate this as "the shortcomings that everyone has and that's okay - no one is perfect." 
As for the fee for the fight, there was already information that it would be divided equally between the fighters.

Yeah, while it's hard to defend certain things he's done, mental health does sort of push you into these things. So, I can somewhat understand why we was using some of the drugs he was using. He was in a dark place, he talks about one day where he was literally planning on crashing his car into a bridge I believe it was. His wife, Paris also says she was scared every single day that he wouldn't come home. So, while it's easy to critise, we don't actually know how bad it was, but from what they've claimed, he was in a very dark place, and the cocaine, and heavy drinking, as well as not wanting the rematch due to the fact he's pretty much in the gutter, all makes sense. I wouldn't call it ducking either.

Fury has never been someone to duck fights. He would've beaten Klitschko again, and his reasoning actually makes sense. All this time he's been wanting to be champion, he finally realises that dream, and then you've lost your goal, you've lost your motivation, and therefore you kind of lose your way. We've seen it multiple times, and some people might be unfortunate enough to see friends go through similar things.

The failed drug test is hard to defend though. That's something that's definitely he blemish on his career, and it's unfortunate that he went that far. However, and by no means am I saying it's alright because of this; but most boxers, in fact most athletes are using substances to gain the marginal differences that they give. That's been proven over the years. In fact, many great legends have been caught abusing steroids to gain an advantage. Again, that's not excusing it's use.

[eaLiTy]

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Fury used doping (nandrolone) was convicted of using cocaine, and ran like a coward from a rematch with Klitschko. I think when you talk about antics, you mean his trash talk, not these actions, right? Personally, it would be strange for me to evaluate this as "the shortcomings that everyone has and that's okay - no one is perfect." 
As for the fee for the fight, there was already information that it would be divided equally between the fighters.

I am not sure whether Tyson Fury was taking any performance enchasing drugs and he definitely does not look like someone who takes these shortcuts  . Regarding the rematch, he had his personal demons and was into drugs, like you mentioned cocaine and he was popped for benzoylecgonine which is a byproduct of cocaine and not heard he was convicted.
As a fan, i would like to see the fight but Tyson vacated the belt after announcing the retirement and how can this be an unification bout.

[coolcoinz]

The reaction of bookmakers regarding bets on the FURY vs USYK fight seems to me quite pragmatic, however, some still offer odds 2/1 in favor of Usyk, but the real odds will be closer to the fight. if it takes place, of course.

I don't get that they give Usyk such an advantage where there's none. They both are very experienced and have impressive number of wins but Fury has both more professional wins and total fights which means more total experience. He's also taller and heavier than Usyk. These are clear advantages that should be taken into account here.
I like them both and feel like they're rather evenly matched. I wouldn't give any of them 2-1.

[Jating]

Yeah, he Fury seems to have that kind of personality that you are going to like. I mean just an ordinary bloke, just a regular guy you can find in a bar and have a talk with everything under the sun. He had indeed has mental issues thats why he didn't fight for a long time and some problems with drugs too.

I guess everyone has its own opinion on boxers. Floyd get the most hate but for sure there will be fans around telling the opposite.

I also like Fury, I know that some people do not really like him because of his antics but at least to me that makes him human, since it shows you don't need to be perfect in order to reach the very top of one of the most competitive and popular sports around the world, and I take this as a lesson that everyone can learn something from.

Besides we need to also take into account what is behind the comment Fury made, it is obvious that Fury knows that he's not going to receive 500 million for the fight against Usyk, so he's just making a joke, maybe we get to see the fight maybe we don't, but he has the right to set a high price for his services and there is little doubt that an unification fight at the heavyweight division will bring a lot of money to both fighters.

Probably the 500 million is just a public stunt just to provoke the public perception about this fight, so yeah probably this is a joke for him. But this is serious business, he has been wanting to get all the belts and unify it and himself proclaiming to be the best Heavyweight of all time. Just surprised to see the someone mentioning Usyk to be the favorite at 2:1? Nah, don't see it happening, Fury will still be the favorite here. But it will not be an easy fight and I think this will be his most difficult because they are like evenly match with him having the slight advantage, (height, reach).

[JollyGood]

There have been 28 votes in the poll:

Fury to win: 21
Usyk to win:  7

This is a big surprise as far as I can see because 25% of the votes are for Usyk to win and I thought it would end up being much smaller closer to the 10% mark. Even with 75% of the votes in favour of a Fury will the voters in the poll are giving him a huge majority.

We need more votes 

[YuginKadoya]

I would have thought it would be an easy fight for Fury, Usyk is a very skilled boxer but he is not a heavyweight boxer, and his fight with AJ proves size isn't everything.
and I bet on Fury, in a fight that should be no more than 2 to 1 Fury in the window. Uysk has experience imo but size will be a much bigger factor than AJ and Fury size not AJ and also much better than him.

Tyson Fury is much better than Anthony Joshua that is for sure, pretty even though Oleksandr Usyk has the speed, and pretty much he resembles Johnny Depp when Depp is bald, I don't know why but when I am looking at Usyk while fighting there is an angle that he looks like Depp, but surely maybe it was just my imagination, anyway Usyk has the speed but with Tyson's 1 punch this fight is already over, that is why I have voted for Tyson Fury to win this,

I mean officially he is a heavyweight boxer, and just beat a top three heavyweight boxer, twice. So, the claim that he isn't a heavyweight boxer is inaccurate. While I agree the height advantage, and weight advantage will play a part in Fury's fight with Usyk, I only say that because unlike Joshua, Fury uses his weight to his advantage. You saw it with Wilder, and you could see it taking his toll. However, he's done this throughout his career.

With that tactical advantage, he'll likely be able to slow down Usyk, that he'll become hittable, and therefore I see Fury getting the better of him. Ultimately though, they're very close in terms of technical ability, but again I still think Fury is the better of the two. I think Fury's technical ability is a bit underrated, and that's mainly due to the fact of what I said before, where a larger man usually does look a little more clumsy than a smaller man, even if they're doing very similar movements.

He would surely find a way even in tight spots and yes Fury is a technical fighter, for a heavyweight boxer to be this technical inside the ring, there is no doubt he could find a way for him to hit Oleksandr Usyk, that is for sure, he pretty much got a technique, where he can clinch but readying a punch when he pushes his opponent backward I think he would likely do anything just to win, but not in a likely illegal manner, it will still depend on the referee if he would call it as a bad game for a fighter but he can surely do ways he would likely come from his advantage inside the ring, and I think that would be his weight, height and reach,

There have been 28 votes in the poll:

Fury to win: 21
Usyk to win:  7

This is a big surprise as far as I can see because 25% of the votes are for Usyk to win and I thought it would end up being much smaller closer to the 10% mark. Even with 75% of the votes in favour of a Fury will the voters in the poll are giving him a huge majority.

We need more votes 

I have voted for Fury, and these results truly show that Tyson Fury got something that Oleksandr Usyk doesn't have, and surely Usyk got the guts to call Fury, but I think he got a technique he is planning for Fury the moment he picks a fight for him so this is going to be an interesting fight, I am not surprised that Fury will get the votes he is a boxer who would likely give his all to win even in his disadvantage he would likely to see an opening for him to win and even if he is in the tight position, he can surely reverse that for a win so that is why I am not surprised by the majority in votes for him,

Well, let's just wait for another user to see this thread, or you can likely share this link to other thread with combat theme on them, maybe they will be interested in voting here,

[darkangel11]

There have been 28 votes in the poll:

Fury to win: 21
Usyk to win:  7

This is a big surprise as far as I can see because 25% of the votes are for Usyk to win and I thought it would end up being much smaller closer to the 10% mark. Even with 75% of the votes in favour of a Fury will the voters in the poll are giving him a huge majority.

We need more votes 

I like Usyk, he's got big heart and huge balls. I also like the underdogs so I want him to win this. Fury is so cocky. I like him but there's this thing with fighters who are like that you either love them or hate them. He reminds me of McGregor.

It's going to be a good fight to watch for sure. I voted for Usyk in the poll. I feel like Fury has so many wins to his name that people are biased towards him in this. There's really a decent chance this won't go his way.

[hilariousetc]

This fight probably isn't going to happen until mid next year given Usyk has stated he won't fight this year but Fury v AJ is hotting up now. I thought Fury was just doing his usually shit-chatting to try grab headlines but Fury has said he's offered him a 60/40 split to fight him Nov/December this year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mWQVajOXMo

If that's to be believed AJ is not going to get a better deal than that. Something tells me that Fury isn't entirely serious about this fight though or there's something he's not telling us. It's rumoured that Fury already has a bum lined up for December but I'm sure he could easily ditch him for AJ but squeezing a fight of this magnitude in before the end of the year seems a stretch. Both Eddie Hearn and Frank warren were on Talk Sport this morning confirming the offer has been made and received but neither talked numbers. Hopefully we'll hear something from Hearn soon but I agree with Hearn at 1:48 here: https://youtu.be/8IksjnZS7QU?t=108

[KTChampions]

This fight probably isn't going to happen until mid next year given Usyk has stated he won't fight this year but Fury v AJ is hotting up now. I thought Fury was just doing his usually shit-chatting to try grab headlines but Fury has said he's offered him a 60/40 split to fight him Nov/December this year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mWQVajOXMo

If that's to be believed AJ is not going to get a better deal than that. Something tells me that Fury isn't entirely serious about this fight though or there's something he's not telling us. It's rumoured that Fury already has a bum lined up for December but I'm sure he could easily ditch him for AJ but squeezing a fight of this magnitude in before the end of the year seems a stretch. Both Eddie Hearn and Frank warren were on Talk Sport this morning confirming the offer has been made and received but neither talked numbers. Hopefully we'll hear something from Hearn soon but I agree with Hearn at 1:48 here: https://youtu.be/8IksjnZS7QU?t=108

I am watching this news with great annoyance. I don’t know who could come up with the idea of this fight, but in my opinion it’s completely absurd. AJ, with all due respect, is already "wasted material". No one will be interested in this fight because everyone wants to see Usyk-Fury fight. It seems that Fury is afraid of Usyk and will run from him as he ran from Klitschko. What a disgraceful person.

[hilariousetc]

This fight probably isn't going to happen until mid next year given Usyk has stated he won't fight this year but Fury v AJ is hotting up now. I thought Fury was just doing his usually shit-chatting to try grab headlines but Fury has said he's offered him a 60/40 split to fight him Nov/December this year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mWQVajOXMo

If that's to be believed AJ is not going to get a better deal than that. Something tells me that Fury isn't entirely serious about this fight though or there's something he's not telling us. It's rumoured that Fury already has a bum lined up for December but I'm sure he could easily ditch him for AJ but squeezing a fight of this magnitude in before the end of the year seems a stretch. Both Eddie Hearn and Frank warren were on Talk Sport this morning confirming the offer has been made and received but neither talked numbers. Hopefully we'll hear something from Hearn soon but I agree with Hearn at 1:48 here: https://youtu.be/8IksjnZS7QU?t=108

I am watching this news with great annoyance. I don’t know who could come up with the idea of this fight, but in my opinion it’s completely absurd. AJ, with all due respect, is already "wasted material". No one will be interested in this fight because everyone wants to see Usyk-Fury fight. It seems that Fury is afraid of Usyk and will run from him as he ran from Klitschko. What a disgraceful person.

Lol calm down. It's Usyk that has said he can't fight this year and Fury doesn't want to be out of the ring that long. Regardless of AJ having a few losses under him this is still a huge fight and probably the biggest outside of Usyk to be made and it's one British boxing fans have been wanting for years so there's still a huge market for it. I'm just hoping the big boxers like AJ and Fury fight someone soon because you're lucky if you get one fight a year out of them these days when in reality they should be fighting 2 or 3 times. If this fight doesn't happen then both AJ and Fury will probably just end up fighting bums which nobody wants to see.

[KTChampions]

I am watching this news with great annoyance. I don’t know who could come up with the idea of this fight, but in my opinion it’s completely absurd. AJ, with all due respect, is already "wasted material". No one will be interested in this fight because everyone wants to see Usyk-Fury fight. It seems that Fury is afraid of Usyk and will run from him as he ran from Klitschko. What a disgraceful person.

Lol calm down. It's Usyk that has said he can't fight this year and Fury doesn't want to be out of the ring that long. Regardless of AJ having a few losses under him this is still a huge fight and probably the biggest outside of Usyk to be made and it's one British boxing fans have been wanting for years so there's still a huge market for it. I'm just hoping the big boxers like AJ and Fury fight someone soon because you're lucky if you get one fight a year out of them these days when in reality they should be fighting 2 or 3 times. If this fight doesn't happen then both AJ and Fury will probably just end up fighting bums which nobody wants to see.

While preparing for serious fights takes about a year (if the parties do not engage in nonsense and do not drag out the process), is it too naive for Fury to want a fight with Usyk here and now? Usyk called the real possible dates without any ulterior motives.
The only actual fight that I think would be fair is Wilder - AJ.
Fury can beat bums and wait for Usyk. Building up the hype around a fight with AJ in Fury's place looks even worse than beating someone just for the sake of statistics.

[YuginKadoya]

I like Usyk, he's got big heart and huge balls. I also like the underdogs so I want him to win this. Fury is so cocky. I like him but there's this thing with fighters who are like that you either love them or hate them. He reminds me of McGregor.

It's going to be a good fight to watch for sure. I voted for Usyk in the poll. I feel like Fury has so many wins to his name that people are biased towards him in this. There's really a decent chance this won't go his way.

Well, it is really unavoidable that many will be biased about Tyson Fury, and people love him because of his egotistic demeanor and there are people like you who like Usyk because of his humble demeanor, and we can surely compare both fighters but I am not looking at their attitude but what can they do inside the ring, I think that is more important, they are boxers and it is normal for them to hype up their fight but at the end of the day they will eventually respect each other,

This fight probably isn't going to happen until mid next year given Usyk has stated he won't fight this year but Fury v AJ is hotting up now. I thought Fury was just doing his usually shit-chatting to try grab headlines but Fury has said he's offered him a 60/40 split to fight him Nov/December this year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mWQVajOXMo

If that's to be believed AJ is not going to get a better deal than that. Something tells me that Fury isn't entirely serious about this fight though or there's something he's not telling us. It's rumoured that Fury already has a bum lined up for December but I'm sure he could easily ditch him for AJ but squeezing a fight of this magnitude in before the end of the year seems a stretch. Both Eddie Hearn and Frank warren were on Talk Sport this morning confirming the offer has been made and received but neither talked numbers. Hopefully we'll hear something from Hearn soon but I agree with Hearn at 1:48 here: https://youtu.be/8IksjnZS7QU?t=108

Well, this thread is way too early if they would likely fight next year, but it is alright, a Tyson Fury VS Anthony Joshua could be a treat to watch, but this is the 1st time they would likely clash or a Deontay Wilder VS Anthony Joshua aswell, but Tyson Fury is likely Clashing with Joshua first, but if their promoters would agree on this then we could see a fight maybe this year,

[JollyGood]

Yes this thread is way too early but when I created it there was a real possibility it would go ahead sooner. The only way the fight can go ahead now is if Fury remains unbeaten in his next fight which would then allow him to try to set up a unification bout against Usyk. I think Wilder and even Parker are waiting in the wings in teh hope they can get another opportunity to fight for a title.

Well, this thread is way too early if they would likely fight next year, but it is alright, a Tyson Fury VS Anthony Joshua could be a treat to watch, but this is the 1st time they would likely clash or a Deontay Wilder VS Anthony Joshua aswell, but Tyson Fury is likely Clashing with Joshua first, but if their promoters would agree on this then we could see a fight maybe this year,

[Baofeng]

And Fury may just want to keep this fight alive,

“We offered them the December 17 date in Saudi Arabia for the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world and everybody wanted that date. Usyk said he was injured and isn’t ready until next year," Fury said.

“And now he’s saying I’m scared of him. The little sh!thouse middleweight. I’ll put my fist right through his face.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-usyk-said-he-ready-now-he-says-im-scared-hes-sh-thouse--169300

He call Usyk middleweight, lol, in any case, Fury is looking for either a Joshua or Usyk fight this December. He had a schedule already in December, but it seems he doesn't have a dance partner. When we thought that the Joshua fight is lock-in, there are still things need to be settled. And so he calls Usyk again, I don't think he is injured or what, he just want to take a break after winning against Joshua.

[serjent05]

And Fury may just want to keep this fight alive,

“We offered them the December 17 date in Saudi Arabia for the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world and everybody wanted that date. Usyk said he was injured and isn’t ready until next year," Fury said.

“And now he’s saying I’m scared of him. The little sh!thouse middleweight. I’ll put my fist right through his face.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/fury-usyk-said-he-ready-now-he-says-im-scared-hes-sh-thouse--169300

He call Usyk middleweight, lol, in any case, Fury is looking for either a Joshua or Usyk fight this December. He had a schedule already in December, but it seems he doesn't have a dance partner. When we thought that the Joshua fight is lock-in, there are still things need to be settled. And so he calls Usyk again, I don't think he is injured or what, he just want to take a break after winning against Joshua.

I think Usyk is evading Fury.  It is not that he wanted a break, I believe Usyk wanted to prolong his stay in the spotlight because there is a huge possibility that the spotlight would be taken away from him the moment he decided to fight Fury.  In short, probably Usyk camp isn't confident about winning against Fury.    It is just my thought though and shouldn't be considered as fact.

The statement of Usyk is probably adding fuel to the excitement and controversy making their possible upcoming fight caters more attention.  And I think that is a very entertaining move to fire up their fans and the boxing audience, making them the possible talk of the social media platform.

So I understand that the unification title fight between Fury and Usyk may be possibly bound next year after Fury beats Joshua in their match this coming Dec.  What made me think that?  The exchange of words between the two champions is obvious.  And I considered that as great marketing ploy to catch the audience and boxing fans' attention.  Though I may be wrong but it is good if that happens .

Yes this thread is way too early but when I created it there was a real possibility it would go ahead sooner. The only way the fight can go ahead now is if Fury remains unbeaten in his next fight which would then allow him to try to set up a unification bout against Usyk. I think Wilder and even Parker are waiting in the wings in teh hope they can get another opportunity to fight for a title.

With the current news and article release about Fury and Usyk's exchanges of opinion, I think we can have this thread active again since their exchanges of conversation are somehow pointing to a possible match deal.  The way they converse is like hyping the "feud"  between them making the crowd excited about the idea of their possible match.  That is indeed a great marketing strategy if that is the sole intention of those exchanges of words.