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September 19, 2022, 01:43:02 PM
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Helping the poor is an empathetic awareness, if someone decides to help then they can use another budget to divert and not have to interfere with gambling funds. It all depends on financial management, some people have financial allocations for unexpected things for social purposes.
After all, if you win at gambling, you can give charity more worthy of the original plan. So the choice between charity or gambling is not a measure of one's concern.

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September 19, 2022, 02:05:25 PM
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Maybe you can do both. But if I have to choose, I will choose welfare for the beginning. Whether it's through trading or gambling, as you said, If I do gamble, but it's not the main thing I do for entertainment. So sometimes there are tough choices, but I'll help if I think I'm no longer lacking. Nowadays, helping the poor does not always require money. It can all be done at any time. It all depends on everyone's wishes; it all depends on the empathy they have.

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September 19, 2022, 02:16:02 PM
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In order to understand the psychology of gamblers, i have decided to come up few questions for discussions, and here is the first one.

Suppose that you are a responsible gambler who have allocated a certain portion of money to gamble each month. Now you came across a poor person/family who is in urgent need of money. Will you quit the gambling for that month and give the allocated money to the poor family or will you prefer to gamble as you can't live without gambling ?

If you gamble it might give you some peace of mind  But if you donate that money to a poor family, it will give you peace of mind for a long time and that family will pray for you and respect you for the rest of your life.  I think this is true happiness. So I think it would be a good thing to quit gambling for that month and donate that money to a poor family

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September 19, 2022, 02:37:07 PM
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In order to understand the psychology of gamblers, i have decided to come up few questions for discussions, and here is the first one.

Suppose that you are a responsible gambler who have allocated a certain portion of money to gamble each month. Now you came across a poor person/family who is in urgent need of money. Will you quit the gambling for that month and give the allocated money to the poor family or will you prefer to gamble as you can't live without gambling ?


Reducing the amount of allocation to be give will be my choice, because after all gambling has become a part of my daily life and can't be completely ruled out just for dedication to someone. In conclusion, I continue to do the same gambling activities that have been going on for years, on the other hand I feel better because I can help someone in need.

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September 19, 2022, 03:23:21 PM
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Exactly I am also saying that but here are many addicted gambler are available who For those who can't go a day without it, it's a different matter, but if a normal gambler finds himself in that situation, I think he will stop gambling temporarily to help the family or the person in crisis. And also if I have more options like I have enough money to help them then I will help them from that money and continue gambling as my source of entertainment. Then I will not quit gambling for a month .
When faced with a situation related to conscience, even heavy gamblers will put their mind on helping families or poor people who are in a state of crisis. Human nature will appear when you see other people are in a pinch, especially if you have been hungry for several days because you don't have money to buy food. The moral urge to help each other will appear suddenly, only people whose hearts are as hard as stone are more concerned with their lust than helping people who are in need of help.

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September 19, 2022, 05:02:51 PM
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The question is a bit of a trap, because responsible gamblers will have no problem doing it, the problem is gamblers with compulsive behaviors. 

This is likely to be what the response will be. I believe the addict won't just stop to put the bet they intend just because someone poor approached them for help , they can only help out if they have spare after placing the bet but won't help if they don't have extra because they believe to try luck and win big before helping with the winning.

Basically for my opinion, if it has to do with health and safing life, it is reasonable to help because nothing can be exchanged for life..

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September 19, 2022, 05:33:47 PM
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I am more of a cashless person. I only have available cash but mostly in the apps for the bills and basic stuff. My emergency cash funds are also in the bank and I do not have apps for them. In short, I won't be able to help with all my monthly gambling budget as I do have the cash available. Nonetheless, I will give them a part of my available on-hand cash. 

In reality, there are a lot of people all over the world that need urgent assistance. And we have to face the truth that we cannot help them all too.   

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September 19, 2022, 05:35:56 PM
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I believe there are different alternatives you can think about in order to gamble and at same time help the people in need who come across you. Or maybe you have already helped people recently with your money, so you can't neglect yourself and your personal needs to think exclusively about solving others' problems.

So you can communicate the local government those people are in difficult conditions on the streets and they will have to come after these people, after all public employees are being paid for this and there is a specific budget for that kind of social problem. You can also talk to those people in need and ask why they are living like that, what they need, etc... And advice them on what to do accordingly.

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Exactly I am also saying that but here are many addicted gambler are available who For those who can't go a day without it, it's a different matter, but if a normal gambler finds himself in that situation, I think he will stop gambling temporarily to help the family or the person in crisis. And also if I have more options like I have enough money to help them then I will help them from that money and continue gambling as my source of entertainment. Then I will not quit gambling for a month .
But that doesn't mean a gambling addict won't give his money to that poor family because I think they could give some of their money to that family for humanitarian reasons. But indeed, not many have a high sense of sociality towards each other. And if we have more money, we can help the family by giving the money to them. That is why we also have to be smart in managing our finances because times like that sometimes come to us without us knowing it and this is to see our sympathy for those in need.

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Basically for my opinion, if it has to do with health and safing life, it is reasonable to help because nothing can be exchanged for life..
I have experienced this with my relatives that one has borrowed money from me to buy oxygen and I obliged and never got any second thought of lending money and then, he died. But I don't have any regret because when he approached me to borrow, I did gave what I can do to help him save his life even until now, I'm not paid but that's not a problem.

And that's why if it's about these important matters, I'll obliged and will do the same thing of lending them. But if it's just about useless and nonsense matters then they shouldn't expect anything from me.

I'll only obliged into important matters but not with those stuff that seem to be for their pleasure.

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September 19, 2022, 06:06:34 PM
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But that doesn't mean a gambling addict won't give his money to that poor family because I think they could give some of their money to that family for humanitarian reasons. But indeed, not many have a high sense of sociality towards each other. And if we have more money, we can help the family by giving the money to them. That is why we also have to be smart in managing our finances because times like that sometimes come to us without us knowing it and this is to see our sympathy for those in need.

Morality, I think, is the word you want to use here. I know a lot of rich guys that obviously have the means to help but decide not to, just because it wouldn't make them more money. When you reach a certain point in life where your finances are no longer a problem, there is still this desire you to push for more and strive for more money, and that is what I think most rich people are. Well there still some who likes to give back to the poor, but they are overwhelmed by those who wants to get richer without even lending a helping hand.

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If I could choose both, I would choose to gamble and help the poor. If I win, I will distribute 2.5% of my winnings to the poor.
If I had to choose one, I would choose to help the poor and one thing you should know and that is also an obligation that I must do. I always distribute 2.5% of all income I earn to the poor or those most in need.
this is my parent's message that I always do, no matter where the income or money comes from, there are other people's rights that must be given to the poor 2.5% according to the amount earned, I like to gamble and when I win until the end of the game I always do that.

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September 19, 2022, 06:49:03 PM
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But that doesn't mean a gambling addict won't give his money to that poor family because I think they could give some of their money to that family for humanitarian reasons. But indeed, not many have a high sense of sociality towards each other. And if we have more money, we can help the family by giving the money to them. That is why we also have to be smart in managing our finances because times like that sometimes come to us without us knowing it and this is to see our sympathy for those in need.

Morality, I think, is the word you want to use here. I know a lot of rich guys that obviously have the means to help but decide not to, just because it wouldn't make them more money. When you reach a certain point in life where your finances are no longer a problem, there is still this desire you to push for more and strive for more money, and that is what I think most rich people are. Well there still some who likes to give back to the poor, but they are overwhelmed by those who wants to get richer without even lending a helping hand.

yeah, i believe it's morality not sociality.  Tongue anyway, it boils down to the individual's principles in life. in my case, if i see that a certain family is indeed need of help because of their limited options, and they are also doing their part to survive in this life, i will probably help them. i want to see also that they are helping themselves. but if they are just relying from someone's help and they are still able to work, i won't.

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September 19, 2022, 07:45:31 PM
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In order to understand the psychology of gamblers, i have decided to come up few questions for discussions, and here is the first one.

Suppose that you are a responsible gambler who have allocated a certain portion of money to gamble each month. Now you came across a poor person/family who is in urgent need of money. Will you quit the gambling for that month and give the allocated money to the poor family or will you prefer to gamble as you can't live without gambling ?


If you want, you can do both. Just give them half of your winnings and then everybody is happy. Unless you lose all your money. Then you will be one of the poor people without having helped anyone.  Roll Eyes Tongue

Its really up to you and you should not feel bad for your choices. You earned that money. Nobody should shame anyone else for not walking their subjective moral guide-lines.

That being said, if it would make you happier to donate it all, then maybe you should do whatever makes you happiest. If gambling makes you more happy, then gamble. There really is not much reason to make a topic about this.

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September 19, 2022, 08:27:21 PM
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In order to understand the psychology of gamblers, i have decided to come up few questions for discussions, and here is the first one.

Suppose that you are a responsible gambler who have allocated a certain portion of money to gamble each month. Now you came across a poor person/family who is in urgent need of money. Will you quit the gambling for that month and give the allocated money to the poor family or will you prefer to gamble as you can't live without gambling ?

It all depends on my mood at that moment,if am in a bad mood I will not help but instead I will prefer gambling. If am in a good mood then I will feel pity and help instead of gambling and it all depends on how much we are talking about and who needs the help. Though sacrificing for someone is good

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Maybe you can do both. But if I have to choose, I will choose welfare for the beginning. Whether it's through trading or gambling, as you said, If I do gamble, but it's not the main thing I do for entertainment. So sometimes there are tough choices, but I'll help if I think I'm no longer lacking. Nowadays, helping the poor does not always require money. It can all be done at any time. It all depends on everyone's wishes; it all depends on the empathy they have.
Exactly, if you can do both, why should you choose? for those who want to gamble but find a family who needs money then they can help by giving half the money from the gambling capital that he was holding at that time (I would do this if it happened to me). Don't give all your money to a family in need because you have wants and needs that you can't avoid.

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September 19, 2022, 09:10:53 PM
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Will you quit the gambling for that month and give the allocated money to the poor family or will you prefer to gamble as you can't live without gambling ?
50:50, that's fair without disturbing one of them.

Instead of giving them 100% of the total budget then I prefer to give them 50% without interfering with my needs. Value is not what they expect, but our helping hand is what they want for any amount. Regardless of whether the budget is for gambling or not, then I think 50:50 is a fair percentage for needs and charities.

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September 19, 2022, 09:13:15 PM
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I'll be honest, I confess that this is a somewhat simple question, but at the same time difficult to answer.

I believe that some variables need to be discussed!
For example: "how urgently does this family need help?"
"How much money is needed to be able to help them?"

I even believe that this is somewhat relative and varies from situation to situation and person to person.
But if I have the opportunity, for sure I will help these people in need, to be more precise, I would do both, I would help this family in need but also I would not stop being a gambler. (of course this is with consideration)


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Most gamblers may feel strongly that gambling is an important part of their life and that they cannot go without it, even for a month. In this case, the gambler may choose to gamble as usual and not give any money to the poor family.
They are hooked to it. Idea of charity isn't going to stop them from gambling even for a second.

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September 19, 2022, 10:12:20 PM
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I'll be honest, I confess that this is a somewhat simple question, but at the same time difficult to answer.

I believe that some variables need to be discussed!
For example: "how urgently does this family need help?"
"How much money is needed to be able to help them?"

I even believe that this is somewhat relative and varies from situation to situation and person to person.
But if I have the opportunity, for sure I will help these people in need, to be more precise, I would do both, I would help this family in need but also I would not stop being a gambler. (of course this is with consideration)



I do not think that it is a hard question since the majority of us here when put in this kind of situation will just ignore those families in need because

1. They are strangers
2. Doesn't affect them whether they help or not
3.  It is none of their business since it is not their responsibility to cater to this kind of thing.

But I believe even though they don't want to give involved, they will just hand out some money for human reasons.  Honestly, only a few people have a generous heart toward strangers, indeed being generous is one of the human traits but mostly we seldom are that kind because we are too focused on our personal problems to tackle with.


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