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September 29, 2022, 03:31:58 PM
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People always associate success with good education, many millionaires who are not high school, this can be enthusiastic for those of us who do not have higher education to succeed, the key to success is not just education and according to education experts are 10% requirements for success, attitudes and Positive thoughts viewing conditions are the ultimate factor for success.
An underlying error is how they assume that school means work. Even though things like that are the wrong mindset, at school we are only taught to gain knowledge, hone skills and other abilities. I think it is a form of laziness, because the world of work is not like the world of school. Success has its own path and it can be said that school is one way to achieve it.

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September 29, 2022, 08:28:04 PM
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People always associate success with good education, many millionaires who are not high school, this can be enthusiastic for those of us who do not have higher education to succeed, the key to success is not just education and according to education experts are 10% requirements for success, attitudes and Positive thoughts viewing conditions are the ultimate factor for success.
An underlying error is how they assume that school means work. Even though things like that are the wrong mindset, at school we are only taught to gain knowledge, hone skills and other abilities. I think it is a form of laziness, because the world of work is not like the world of school. Success has its path and it can be said that school is one way to achieve it.

We can't rely on our success in education alone because there are still things that are not being taught in school that only our perseverance and enthusiasm can provide. Schools can only teach us the basic knowledge of our chosen field but skills can be acquired and developed through one's eagerness to improve. We can't blame everything on our education system because reaching success still relies on our hands.

That's why many companies prioritize experienced people over people who just graduated from college. Because like you said many things are not
taught in school, so when someone enters the world of work, they still have to learn from scratch. So based on my life experience, in school only
taught how to live disciplined, how to socialize well, expand relationships, and how to face the competition. In conclusion, school only learns
the basic things of life, but work skills must be obtained from how we study and do our jobs well. So every time we work for the first time we often
get training first. It is true that success does not only depend on the education we get in school, but how we fight hard to survive. That's why
smart people usually lose to hard working people.

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September 29, 2022, 08:38:50 PM
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Nothing is guaranteed in this life. Only the communist regimes are trying to "guarantee" anything to the people (and they fail in the end).
The university/college system is getting more expensive and kinda obsolete.
You definitely need a diploma if you are going to build a career as an engineer, a lawyer or a doctor. You don't need a degree/diploma for most of the professions in the private sector. Having actual practice in a certain job and social skills is more important than a degree or diploma.
The fourth industrial revolution(or the first digital revolution) is making the current educational system more or less useless. Reforms are needed in the government-owned education systems around the world.
Now it seems that we are being pushed for such a classification.
Currently, there are many rules that require classification to become someone who has a degree as you mentioned clearly requires education and like it or not we have to follow rules like this because this is a must now.
It is difficult to change this back to how it was before because education has become a benchmark and for someone who does not have competence in education, no matter how good they are, they will not be considered too much because they do not have a certificate for classification.

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September 29, 2022, 08:39:51 PM
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We can't rely on our success in education alone because there are still things that are not being taught in school that only our perseverance and enthusiasm can provide. Schools can only teach us the basic knowledge of our chosen field but skills can be acquired and developed through one's eagerness to improve. We can't blame everything on our education system because reaching success still relies on our hands.
someone can increase their curiosity in this modern era by learning freely, I mean, they can learn with smart internet methods. there are many other ways to learn in between free time from school activities if one has the will to learn. there are so many online schools that are easy to understand if you have the intention to learn. I am amazed by education in this modern era because during the time of covid, the world of education seemed to be closed and students could learn through online schools.

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September 29, 2022, 11:59:04 PM
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People always associate success with good education, many millionaires who are not high school, this can be enthusiastic for those of us who do not have higher education to succeed, the key to success is not just education and according to education experts are 10% requirements for success, attitudes and Positive thoughts viewing conditions are the ultimate factor for success.
Maybe having some positive thoughts would help but I think you are missing some key factor here why these people are successful. From what I know these people have connections, skills, charisma that could change the outcome of their success if applied right. And yes, mostly millionaire and billionaire doesn't have a good education because most schools these days aren't teaching what the students should learn.

To OP, do you know what are the causes of this problem where having an education is not enough to get a job?

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September 30, 2022, 01:33:55 AM
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We can't rely on our success in education alone because there are still things that are not being taught in school that only our perseverance and enthusiasm can provide. Schools can only teach us the basic knowledge of our chosen field but skills can be acquired and developed through one's eagerness to improve. We can't blame everything on our education system because reaching success still relies on our hands.
I really agree with the expression you gave, because in fact it is true that every success and success is always achieved through the hands of each with clear goals and desires.
It doesn't exist at all in any school because at school they only do learning before doing practice in their respective lives. And I think what you say is very appropriate to describe a success that is not determined by any school if someone is still very lazy to make it happen.

someone can increase their curiosity in this modern era by learning freely, I mean, they can learn with smart internet methods. there are many other ways to learn in between free time from school activities if one has the will to learn. there are so many online schools that are easy to understand if you have the intention to learn. I am amazed by education in this modern era because during the time of covid, the world of education seemed to be closed and students could learn through online schools.
Learning is to achieve the goal of success and success in life so it can obviously be done by anyone who has the desire to continue to gain any knowledge more with anything that can really help him in life. But it will be very useless if someone who has gained more knowledge does not practice it in his own life in order to achieve the successful goal he wants.

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September 30, 2022, 02:17:09 AM
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education is important for every individual human being on this earth, and in developing countries when going to school education expects when graduating from high school or college hoping to get a job, but what happens when an economics graduate who is supposed to work in the field economy, but working as a mechanic in a factory, that is what often happens in developing countries, in my opinion the failure is not the education but the education system which is not in line with the progress of the times
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September 30, 2022, 03:15:27 AM
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HAving a degree is good but learning a skill along side is more better.
Education gives you job but skill makes you excel at the workplace. If you are skilled you are an employee first choice.

I agree, critical knowledge is good, it helps you to see the society around you. However, technical knowledge is something more selfish, all the rewards of that knowledge will be only for you.

So a balance would be ideal, but in my view technical knowledge will always be the best, because you will only evolve, whether as a person or professional, earning money.

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September 30, 2022, 07:08:31 AM
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education is important for every individual human being on this earth, and in developing countries when going to school education expects when graduating from high school or college hoping to get a job, but what happens when an economics graduate who is supposed to work in the field economy, but working as a mechanic in a factory, that is what often happens in developing countries, in my opinion the failure is not the education but the education system which is not in line with the progress of the times

If a financial specialist has to work as a mechanic in a factory, that means the failure is in economic situation in whole country, but not in education system. He has chosen being a mechanic instead of using his financial knowledge, because the mechanic job is paid more, or there was low demand of financial specialists and high demand of mechanic workers.

Nowadays no one wants to work with hand and get dirty. Everyone wants to sit in the office in a white shirt, drink coffee and tap buttons. Because mechanic job is less prestigious than office work. That is why we have an army of white collars and mechanics that charge hundreds for simple job.

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September 30, 2022, 07:40:37 AM
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Education can't fail because it's the brain behind everything we invent today. Some countries does not know what to do in specific time, in maintaining the system of education and that should be the reason sone people who is from uncivilized country think that education is not important again. Unemployment is establish by bad governance in any country, in some civilized countries a tax or internal generated revenue is being controlled by educationist, but some countries illiterate control taxation of country. So to regards education and a graduate in a country it's the function of government. So don't have in mind that education has failed.
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Education can't fail because it's the brain behind everything we invent today. Some countries does not know what to do in specific time, in maintaining the system of education and that should be the reason sone people who is from uncivilized country think that education is not important again. Unemployment is establish by bad governance in any country, in some civilized countries a tax or internal generated revenue is being controlled by educationist, but some countries illiterate control taxation of country. So to regards education and a graduate in a country it's the function of government. So don't have in mind that education has failed.

Education can fail if the government didn't pay to much attention on this and give only small budget to develop schools and anything that can help students also with upcoming professional. If there's crisis toward employment well this is another problem to them so its really good to put a politician who have vision for growth and put some priorities on education and creating job to its people since this is so important on their economy.

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Education can fail if the government didn't pay to much attention on this and give only small budget to develop schools and anything that can help students also with upcoming professional. If there's crisis toward employment well this is another problem to them so its really good to put a politician who have vision for growth and put some priorities on education and creating job to its people since this is so important on their economy.
You and I know that government does not jokes with educational system and they pay much attention in education than any other sectors, any government who's agenda is not to rehabilitate educational foundation in any nation is a dead government, and that's why government care for education but doesn't care for graduates, why people is castigating educational systems is due to lack of employment after graduation in some of the countries. A well organized country make an adequate provisions of employment for newly graduating students to limit crime in the nation.
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Education can't fail because it's the brain behind everything we invent today. Some countries does not know what to do in specific time, in maintaining the system of education and that should be the reason sone people who is from uncivilized country think that education is not important again. Unemployment is establish by bad governance in any country, in some civilized countries a tax or internal generated revenue is being controlled by educationist, but some countries illiterate control taxation of country. So to regards education and a graduate in a country it's the function of government. So don't have in mind that education has failed.

Education can fail if the government didn't pay to much attention on this and give only small budget to develop schools and anything that can help students also with upcoming professional. If there's crisis toward employment well this is another problem to them so its really good to put a politician who have vision for growth and put some priorities on education and creating job to its people since this is so important on their economy.
It is true that without the support of the government, education will not develop either.
all must work together in realizing a great education and that takes time too, of course,
the government must provide more budget for more advanced education and must be accompanied by the right policies

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September 30, 2022, 09:41:20 AM
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Education is completely different from country to country. And as time shows that the initial level of education, this period from 7 years to 17 gives only general education, in no case related to professions. This is followed by several more years of study, which is a six-year period where a person must obtain a profession. Do all countries act this way? And with the very initial education, it is necessary to motivate and educate children to a correct understanding of life, namely, that nothing in the world will be given for free, and in order to make your life successful, you must study diligently and adhere to all moral principles. 
A person who enters life with a higher education has a much better chance of getting a good job than someone who only went to school to pass the time. 
It has always been. For the one who tries, his chances of success are much higher, and everything that a person receives from life is the fruit of his own hands.
You have definitely pointed out the virtue of education. People have today rubbish education because of lack of job but in all honesty education isn't just about acquisition of job but morals are also instilled into the educated ones and this (education) has help a great lot in curtailment of crimes carried out by youth in the society.

People also don't focus in getting good grades or graduating with flying colours anymore because of the trading stuff that you must know someone before getting a job. Oh yeah it is right but imagine the situation of helping someone that actually graduated with good grades and the near bottom fellows. I think the former will be easy to get help.

But another thing that affects people that attend schools they feel there certificate will grant them jobs when it is not coming they just sit back without looking for alternatives to cater for there needs. There are many skill acquisitions that one could get par school at least to stay on ones toe before regular jobs could come. There are notable successful business men today that have build up there businesses after fail to acquire jobs.

My point everyday is education is never a scam
You have a kind heart, believing in education is a means to being good no matter if it earns your an income or not. It was very noble but the reality is much harder than that. I can understand why someone may regret their choice of career or higher education. It was whatever the time you've spent give you something out of it. Some look for a nice job, an income, or a long ahead career,... Some are content with pursuing things like art study or even more abstract fields that may not be giving them the means to earn money right away. Some thought their time was wasted because their studies aren't applicable to any jobs out there or were not enough to meet employer/HR's requirements.

It means a lot of people will have a different take on it. I understand your point but if someone said their education is a scam or a waste, I think you can't dismiss it by saying all education is good. Human life is short, time is spent and wasted on many things and people want to get the best out of it cause they may have burdens on their shoulders. On how they have to find a means to support their family or even just themself.
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Your good grades and academic achievements will only matter inside of your school, because mostly your job will requires another set of skills which you will learn while working. Also, your ideal job when you were studying will never be your first job but something you're not expecting because you don't have a choice. Other people chose not to be an employee because of low salary, however it requires high standards of employees, pretty ironic.
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You and I know that government does not jokes with educational system and they pay much attention in education than any other sectors, any government who's agenda is not to rehabilitate educational foundation in any nation is a dead government, and that's why government care for education but doesn't care for graduates, why people is castigating educational systems is due to lack of employment after graduation in some of the countries. A well organized country make an adequate provisions of employment for newly graduating students to limit crime in the nation.

You know what you have said about government doesn't joke with education doesn't happen in every country.  Their are some countries that education is one of their serious agenda which they pump in money to maintain it very well.  While in some countries government don't put much into education whereby government pays lecturer low amount of income, schools lack infrastructure and equipment.  Countries where government don't put much in education hardly create jobs for graduates that are coming out, that is why a graduate would say school is scam. Government that have concerns for education always create opportunities for graduates that are coming out.

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You know what you have said about government doesn't joke with education doesn't happen in every country.  Their are some countries that education is one of their serious agenda which they pump in money to maintain it very well.  While in some countries government don't put much into education whereby government pays lecturer low amount of income,
No country can pay lecturers a garbage worth, because teachers and lecturer are foundational structure of any country, so therefore government values educational sector in any countries. Some countries do take adequate measure to ensure that they have put education as one of the priority budget of her country. No government who is will to make salary scale of their educational teacher to be low. Except such country dont know the value of education. I will disagree with your clause that stipulate that some of the government pays their lecturer low salary. Just conduct a research of that.
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Education those not guaranty a Job in my country anymore, gone are those days when their are jobs waiting for you even before graduating, you have different choices and you will have to select the one you want, but now graduates don't even care about the job they get now and it's still difficult to secure even one, i think thats among the reason why crime rate is increasing in the country. Now in  my country if you don't know any influencial person then their is no job for you, I just hope things will change later in the future. If you are a student in my country I believe the best thing you should do now is to learn a entrepreneur right in school so that after graduating you can have something doing and don't depend on any government to come and employ you.

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Education has been getting more leveled in the modern era than ever before. There's so many resources on the internet and people have had greater access to the internet than ever before.

Khan Academy is one of the original resources that is great. I use them all the time.

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I'd argue that if people can do well on these programs, there's no need for failing public institutions and a person will be capable enough to make something of themselves in the real world.




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Education that is not in accordance with the habits of a nation will certainly fail, many countries force education that is often different from the basic needs of the population, for example is economic welfare, if the economy is not improved then education will not be optimal.
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