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September 27, 2022, 02:44:45 AM |
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Like I said previously here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5414408.msg60996080#msg60996080It is the same thing I am still suggesting. In terms of censorship, YouTube is worst than Twitch. And to correct OP's narration that twitch is going to ban most crypto gambling streamers, Twitch is actually banning gambling casinos from streaming live on their platform, that is, they are not banning the streamers like particularly, it is the gambling casinos they are banning, and they made no mention of "crypto" in their announcement post, so I believe it is a generalized thing, there are not targeting crypto gambling casinos in particular.
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September 27, 2022, 03:50:49 AM |
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i figure all crypto gambling streamers will go to youtube. but as you know that won't last long.
youtube will do what they do best, censor the biggest channels as soon as they are settled in.
Stunna, can you make a site thats just for crypto gambling streaming?
you would make millions from it.
i love watching slot streamers. its great entertainment.
YouTube is also against these gambling steaming, so this will be hard for all the gambling streamers. This industry now needs to stop, as no more options left for streaming. Gambling sites will find other ways to promote their sites, might be youtube videos will be best for their case. And regarding your request for Stunna, I guess she gonna just simply ignore it, as hosting a streaming platform is very difficult. Hope this helps you OP.
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September 27, 2022, 03:59:11 PM |
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Why you are assuming that they won't last long in youtube? Are you expecting that youtube is going to do the same as twitch did? No I don't think so because I've seen different contents in youtube and some can even be called inappropriate but they haven't been removed up until now.
Other than youtube, there are other streaming sites out there which are not strict as twitch. They can always use that. They can also create their own streaming platform as you suggested. It will never be a problem for them since they have a lot of money. They can hire a good website developer and then run some promotions. Pretty sure that many top gambling sites or those who got removed from twitch are going to migrate there.
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September 27, 2022, 07:23:41 PM |
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Like I said previously here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5414408.msg60996080#msg60996080It is the same thing I am still suggesting. In terms of censorship, YouTube is worst than Twitch. And to correct OP's narration that twitch is going to ban most crypto gambling streamers, Twitch is actually banning gambling casinos from streaming live on their platform, that is, they are not banning the streamers like particularly, it is the gambling casinos they are banning, and they made no mention of "crypto" in their announcement post, so I believe it is a generalized thing, there are not targeting crypto gambling casinos in particular. This is why twitch got popular over youtube even though it's also possible to stream live in youtube but thanks for clearing out some things about the op's posts. If the gambling sites are the only one that is banned, will that means the streamer can choose another casino which aren't in the twitch's banned list? Or maybe they can switch content (not related to gambling) so that their accounts are still going to be usable. There is no need to quit twitch especially if you already built a good number of fan base there but I think your followers can still follow you wherever sites you migrated. You just need to give them a notice so that they are aware.
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September 27, 2022, 10:02:41 PM |
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~snip~ In terms of censorship, YouTube is worst than Twitch.
^ Yes but I think only those games that are based on luck but not based on skills. I saw a lot of streamers on Youtube and even on Facebook live but there is no restriction because they have live streams only on tournaments in e-games. However, Drake would be transferred on dlive.tv or in caffeine.tv that has been there that can be alternate to Twitch.
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September 27, 2022, 10:09:25 PM |
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There are several options suitable and only Stake and their management know what Is the best option for this marketing campaign. However in this specific case they have a very well known VIP. Any platform they will choose its easy they will have a lot of views "by default"
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September 27, 2022, 11:31:10 PM |
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There are certain games that Twitch won't be allowing streamers to play while on their platform but, it's not generally gamblers that will be out of Twitch. That's why for streamers, they'll only have to pick another game where they can still stream without compromising and violating Twitch's rules about gambling. As for Drake, he's got the platform and he'll be big wherever he goes, his audience and followers will go to just to watch him.
I don't think switching games will be all it needs. The streamer needs to find a sports betting-centric casino or a poker-centric casino based on the announcement, which doesn't tick most casinos since almost all of them have a variety of dice and slot games that Twitch has banned (yes, as long as any casino contains these games, they're not allowed to stream it). So, we'll be making a policy update on October 18th to prohibit streaming of gambling sites that include slots, roulette, or dice games that aren't licensed ...
As you said though, Drake just needs to switch platforms but honestly, a loss in the audience is inevitable with that imo.
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September 28, 2022, 06:29:40 AM |
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Who is Drake? Are you talking about the guy, who was begging his followers to give him money so that he could waste that money on gambling? This basically seems like scamming, if you ask me. Are you concerned about him and his financial situation? Don't worry. He'll be fine. I simply don't understand this mentality. Why would you give money to a gambler and watch him waste that money on gambling? Can't you just waste your money gambling by yourself? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Giving money to gamblers and watching them gamble online seems like another form of financial "simping". Just like the people, who buy Onlyfans subscriptions in order to watch e-girls. Perhaps Drake could create an Onlyfans account and stream there. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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September 28, 2022, 11:15:11 AM |
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You can wait for the next announcement because I am sure that they will tell their fan where they will stream. That will not end the show, and even they can become bigger than before. Or perhaps, there are announcements from Twitch related to that banned.
But if Stunna can create a new website streaming to accommodate people who want to promote using live online, that will be a good idea because, yes, that will be a big business they can get.
Maybe that will be the best thing to do for now as Twitch will never end it’s show eventually. As for Drake, we aren’t even sure of his future plans so if ever the banning will continue, I guess another door will open for him as Drake is a very influential figure and that he could start seizing another good opportunities fit for him. I just hope another reputable gambling platform will be opening soon. Someone like Drake can find other ways to promote and I think there will be media that will offer cooperation between them. And even though Twitch is now even stricter on the gambling industry, other streaming websites will still allow gambling, especially if they want to make more money from the gambling business. This will not stop here and the gambling business will continue to promote using other media, especially when they use the internet as the main medium for promotion.
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September 28, 2022, 11:49:09 AM |
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You can wait for the next announcement because I am sure that they will tell their fan where they will stream. That will not end the show, and even they can become bigger than before. Or perhaps, there are announcements from Twitch related to that banned.
But if Stunna can create a new website streaming to accommodate people who want to promote using live online, that will be a good idea because, yes, that will be a big business they can get.
Maybe that will be the best thing to do for now as Twitch will never end it’s show eventually. As for Drake, we aren’t even sure of his future plans so if ever the banning will continue, I guess another door will open for him as Drake is a very influential figure and that he could start seizing another good opportunities fit for him. I just hope another reputable gambling platform will be opening soon. Someone like Drake can find other ways to promote and I think there will be media that will offer cooperation between them. And even though Twitch is now even stricter on the gambling industry, other streaming websites will still allow gambling, especially if they want to make more money from the gambling business. This will not stop here and the gambling business will continue to promote using other media, especially when they use the internet as the main medium for promotion. He's fame is not limited only on twitch so there's no problem if twitch ban streaming of gambling activities since for sure he can find more ways just to promote their partnership. Currently we have lots of option to pick and for sure his influence can gather millions of people worldwide so its still a win for him and to stake even though they have been limited on one platform.
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September 28, 2022, 12:05:32 PM |
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However, Drake would be transferred on dlive.tv or in caffeine.tv that has been there that can be alternate to Twitch.
Dlive would be a perfect fit for influencers looking to stream casinos. I think Drake will give birth to a pioneer that other big casinos will follow. The Twitch case can no longer be genociated, the decision is unanimous. But the impact will lead to more streaming casinos, not even deadly. Because the more you are pressed, the more it explodes. As you said though, Drake just needs to switch platforms but honestly, a loss in the audience is inevitable with that imo.
Maybe for the early stages of watching it will look reduced. But as promotions and prizes go on, I'm sure the audience will be interested in coming. This is where the power of promotion will work hard in attracting outside audiences to new platforms. Usually, as the first promotion on streaming platforms held by casinos, it is always a target. But so far as posted by Xposed they are still starting live on Twitch about 7 hours ago. It also indicates that there are still possible policies that have not been set by Twitch. https://twitter.com/Xposed/status/1574979676820443143
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September 28, 2022, 05:03:22 PM |
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youtube will do what they do best, censor the biggest channels as soon as they are settled in.
Until it won't last long too, they'll for sure censor such things if it deem necessary. I think they will impose policies regarding gambling or one government organization sees that it has harm to the viewers, something like that. I often wonder, many will flock to streaming dApps now that Twitch is censoring gambling related contents. Time for web3 to shine?
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September 28, 2022, 06:12:54 PM |
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As you said though, Drake just needs to switch platforms but honestly, a loss in the audience is inevitable with that imo.
Maybe for the early stages of watching it will look reduced. But as promotions and prizes go on, I'm sure the audience will be interested in coming. Exactly this, people will follow a streamer wherever he/she goes if there are promos and prizes. Maybe people will need time to transfer to some new place, but that will happen sooner or later, and for sure new people will start coming there eventually! I guess it's crypto, it gave us an alternative, so now we know that we can always find one when we need it! And when you have the cash you can even create that alternative!
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September 28, 2022, 08:39:04 PM |
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YouTube is also against these gambling steaming, so this will be hard for all the gambling streamers. This industry now needs to stop, as no more options left for streaming. Gambling sites will find other ways to promote their sites, might be youtube videos will be best for their case. And regarding your request for Stunna, I guess she gonna just simply ignore it, as hosting a streaming platform is very difficult. Hope this helps you OP.
I understand both points of it at the same time. Streaming services do not want to get in trouble and that is why they are banning these people and that make sense, because it doesn't worth it, they are making money from them so why would they "want" to ban them? They would love to have them and it would be a lot better for them since it's income that they are rejecting here. However, they have to, because of the law they are afraid of and I get it. On the other hand, I understand streamers too, they might be gambling but they are earning probably a lot more in return, because they are getting donations and subscriptions what not as a profit for gambling on stream.
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September 28, 2022, 09:46:30 PM |
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When we talk about gambling streamers, are we talking only about streamers who gamble with cryptocurrencies? or about gambling in general? Because I could understand the second policy (ban all) in order to protect sensitive people, but if the only ones affected are crypto gamblers specifically it would be quite hypocritical imho.
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September 29, 2022, 04:25:59 PM |
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When we talk about gambling streamers, are we talking only about streamers who gamble with cryptocurrencies? or about gambling in general? Because I could understand the second policy (ban all) in order to protect sensitive people, but if the only ones affected are crypto gamblers specifically it would be quite hypocritical imho.
It should be about gambling in general IMO, AFAIK there are many non crypto streamers as well out there but I have not read the complete news of this issue. Is twitch going to ban crypto gambling streamers only or it will be for all including fiat gambling streamers. Not a fan of twitch as I do not like to watch live gambling stream, so I do not follow the news much. Anyway, if twitch will ban all of them, it is basically a good moment for those who want to invest their money to create a new livestream platform specifically for gambling.
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September 29, 2022, 05:38:31 PM |
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Youtube seems the most likely alternative, especially if they are able to profit an extra income from adsense. Actually, this kind of content is really popular there already, there are lots of gambling channels of all sizes. I don't see any other unpopular platforms growing soon because streamers were banned from Twitch for posting gambling content. Anyway, streamers making content about sports betting aren't in trouble at Twitch platform, as it will continue being allowed there, just like sports fantasy and poker as well. The only banned content are the traditional gambling games.
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Youtube seems the most likely alternative, especially if they are able to profit an extra income from adsense. Actually, this kind of content is really popular there already, there are lots of gambling channels of all sizes. I don't see any other unpopular platforms growing soon because streamers were banned from Twitch for posting gambling content. Anyway, streamers making content about sports betting aren't in trouble at Twitch platform, as it will continue being allowed there, just like sports fantasy and poker as well. The only banned content are the traditional gambling games.
Currently some of the restriction also on the youtube of they think it is all against with their terms they will terminate those even though not too much gambling related they immediately remove those kind of contents else the streamers use different platform. for their promotions related to gambling and if they want to include still, they will make a short clip for advertisement and not the entire content of promotions.
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September 29, 2022, 06:52:31 PM |
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Youtube seems the most likely alternative, especially if they are able to profit an extra income from adsense. Actually, this kind of content is really popular there already, there are lots of gambling channels of all sizes. I don't see any other unpopular platforms growing soon because streamers were banned from Twitch for posting gambling content. Anyway, streamers making content about sports betting aren't in trouble at Twitch platform, as it will continue being allowed there, just like sports fantasy and poker as well. The only banned content are the traditional gambling games.
Currently some of the restriction also on the youtube of they think it is all against with their terms they will terminate those even though not too much gambling related they immediately remove those kind of contents else the streamers use different platform. for their promotions related to gambling and if they want to include still, they will make a short clip for advertisement and not the entire content of promotions. Not that really much since the current issue was thrown out because of some certain streamer which is attached on gambling where they do make out some action just basing into that.They would never intent to go into certain extent where they would be banning everything even not into those correlated with gambling.It would turn out that this platform is never been worth to do such streaming and other related aspects. It would be that just normal that they would really be finding another place where they could stream on if ever they get banned or prohibited on some place. We do still have other choices left.
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September 30, 2022, 10:01:13 AM |
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YouTube went from annoying to really annoying to bad to incredibly bad and is still doing what they can to become worse and worse each month. It's pretty much make-up tutorials, music videos and zero IQ comedy at this point or content that is on it's way to being deplatformed.
Even if YouTube were to allow hosting for gambling content, 0% chance that survives 10 years let alone even 1 year.
You need to base this stuff on hardened blockchain platforms that promote free speech to have any remote chance of longevity.
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