Is this statiscally possible in a lottery?

[Cling18]

It is not unusual to be suspicious of the way people are being cheated at every level. And the image the OP is sharing here is spot on that it is divisible by 9. But here the matter of lottery selection should be kept in mind in which process lottery selection is being done. If all were not divisible by this 9 then there would be no doubt in anyone's mind. But I think it doesn't matter. Those are the lucky ones who got those numbers.

They say that Filipino bettors are playful when it comes to betting and no wonder why there are 433 lottery winners in one day. Maybe those people have been betting with the same winning combination for a long time. It may sound suspicious but anything unexpected can happen in gambling. If the powerhouse has not been honest, then it will also be unfair to millions of bettors who put their hope on them.

[dothebeats]

I'm not a statistic guy, but I will say that it is possible what not sure what are the odds are.

Also, isn't it this kind of lottery results are being shown in the public as it has been draw with the representative of DTI? (I will assumed this is Philippines as it shows PHP). So they have to collude with the government and win this numbers?

As Tesla believed though, the numbers 3/6/9 is the "secret of the universe".

1 statistician mentioned that the odds of this happening is 10 ^ 700, far more than 10^80 number that a lot of physicists consider as the number of atoms in the whole observable universe. He also took into account the nature of Filipino bettors when it comes to betting in the lottery: they don't follow patterns, they just pick their birthdays, special numbers, and other numbers that has some meaning to them. I know it's an answer that is not statistically sound, but the idea is there. The odds of this happening is extremely low, plus the fact that 433 winners managed to get the right combination is also insane.

A lot of people are already questioning the integrity of last night's draw. Whether those balls were weighted less to get picked a lot easier is also already in talks. Whatever happened that night, we're sure that it will not be repeated any time soon.

[ralle14]

What do you think? Is this really possible in lottery?

For me it's possible as I remember back then some of the used lotto tickets i've seen from one of my friends are based on patterns or numbers that usually have a meaning behind them so if you look at it in a different way there would be more people leaning on these certain numbers compared to the others. Also, it made me wonder when was the last time the jackpot was hit with so many winners and if this is the highest number of winners that won the jackpot.

[uneng]

I suppose the winners of this draw were even more lucky than the winners from previous draws, because it's indeed an unique result we don't see frequently. We can't say it was rigged, though, as the possibility of having that result is possible by the rules of the lottery. Moreover, I believe if the game was to be rigged the result would be something less evident, involving random numbers instead of a pattern.

Anyway, you as a gambler, has always the option to bet on another lotteries if you think this one is looking suspicious to you. There are many alternatives on the internet, especially in crypto universe for gamblers who enjoy lottery draws. So you can definitely go for it next time!

[Baofeng]

What do you think? Is this really possible in lottery?

For me it's possible as I remember back then some of the used lotto tickets i've seen from one of my friends are based on patterns or numbers that usually have a meaning behind them so if you look at it in a different way there would be more people leaning on these certain numbers compared to the others. Also, it made me wonder when was the last time the jackpot was hit with so many winners and if this is the highest number of winners that won the jackpot.

I would also agree that it is possible, I mean even though there are a lot of numbers and combination, still there is a chance the multiple bettors will bet on the same numbers.

Why? maybe those numbers have significance to them, age, birthday etc, so most likely probably. That's why I'm against the news that the Senate will involved themselves and try to investigate, geesh. Who will be their resource person? mathematicians and statisticians that will say that it is possible and what is the odds? Doesn't make sense to me.

[acroman08]

Statistically very unlikely, I think that would be more accurate, but people tend to think that what is very unlikely to happen is impossible, and that is a mistake.

I guess that would be a more accurate word to use.

Very curious what happened in the Bulgarian lottery. I'm sure that the fact that the same combination came up in two close draws made many people think that the lottery was rigged, even more than in the case told by the OP.

I saw an article that they did an investigation about it since the result raised suspicion of manipulation. anyway, the article said that the investigation did not find any foul play or manipulation and it was impossible to tamper with the lottery machine and drawing the number takes place while a special committee is present and the event is also being broadcast live.

here's the article if you are curious to read it
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-lottery-idUSTRE58H4AM20090918

[lionheart78]

Yesterday, many people were surprised on the result of our lottery. The number that came out were are all divisible by nine. There are many speculations now that the lottery is rigged and the result was already fixed. It's just hard to believe that since they always do live draw to show transparency about the result. What do you think? Is this really possible in lottery?

It is possible in the lottery to have that kind of result.  It maybe very slim but it is really possilbe.  Every winning numbers have the same kind of percentage to appear.  It is that it happens that the result is like that.

In terms of lottery being rigged.  I think it happens but we have no proof about it so all we have is just rumors.

Why? maybe those numbers have significance to them, age, birthday etc, so most likely probably. That's why I'm against the news that the Senate will involved themselves and try to investigate, geesh. Who will be their resource person? mathematicians and statisticians that will say that it is possible and what is the odds? Doesn't make sense to me.

They can check the machine and the weight of the balls, which probably had been fixed already lol.  The senate just want to get the spotlight on this case.  And their resource person will be those who are working on that agency lol.  Besides I think there is always a government agency representative every lottery draw.  I think this is another case that is a waste of resources.

[crzy]

Incredible result for winners, just guess the multipliers of 9 and bingo!
It proves the point about patterns in random series in case of lottery result not rigged. Anyways, I am sure for next round players will go for multipliers of all numbers 🙂

They have been betting on the same number since then, and having that huge winners is rare probably but it’s still possible. Now, they are investigating this one and I’m sure this is correct since those winners will surely contest and probably, claim the reward right away. Though the lotto that is being managed by the government seems suspicious sometimes, many says they are just choosing someone to be the winner but in reality, there is none this is why many don’t believe on this.

[Shinpako09]

It is possible but to have this pattern from 9x1 to 9x6 results plus this is Philippines. I'm not embarrassing my own country here but I think something is fishy with this one. It's rare to even have a three jackpot winner then now we have 433. Lmao. Given there's also an allegations of corruption in this agency. Now, i'm having a doubt and won't bet with this lottery.

[Fortify]

Yesterday, many people were surprised on the result of our lottery. The number that came out were are all divisible by nine. There are many speculations now that the lottery is rigged and the result was already fixed. It's just hard to believe that since they always do live draw to show transparency about the result. What do you think? Is this really possible in lottery?



Image Source:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0xogg6pv17aDJe94MQCYAaNiUdDpxnQFczyrY4Gaaf91BMhmarBtnx8p8iXWMZd4sl&id=100069066345193 (I just cropped the image to focus on the 6/55 draw)

It's a pretty odd observation to make about lottery numbers and most lotteries are rather simple to verify if the drawn is conducted in a transparent manner. Given enough time these sort of sequences would come up, the same has probably happened on the odd occasion with other numbers but nine happens to stand out rather more prominently due to the gap. You could have lottery balls 1,2,3,4,5,6 come out but it doesn't mean it's a fix - they have an equal chance of being drawn as any other set of balls if the lottery is done in the correct way. People associate certain numbers and patterns with malicious behavior but they are just random numbers in essence.

[Viscore]

I can't say whether this lottery or at least this particular draw is rigged or not although there have already been many talks about it. But I guess the pattern of the winning numbers is simply a coincidence. If this is indeed rigged, those who chose the winning combination should have picked random numbers. Picking a winning combination such as this would only ignite suspicion. If players doubt, they might not play anymore. That means a loss in revenue.

Another surprising thing about this is that there are 433 winners of the jackpot. Normally, there's only 1 or 2 of them. Sometimes none at all.

If this game is rigged or not, only the PCSO knows the truth. And this speculation is not new to us anymore. But most likely, since they always show transparency by having live draws, mostly these jackpot winners have only chosen their numbers randomly and they are just lucky enough to hit the winning combinations. Those 433 winners in one day might also be surprised knowing they’re too many of them who will share the jackpot prize.

[goaldigger]

It is possible but to have this pattern from 9x1 to 9x6 results plus this is Philippines. I'm not embarrassing my own country here but I think something is fishy with this one. It's rare to even have a three jackpot winner then now we have 433. Lmao. Given there's also an allegations of corruption in this agency. Now, i'm having a doubt and won't bet with this lottery.

Corruption is the main reason why many doesn’t believe on this one, imagine having that volume of winners in lottery, it looks like a well planned scenario. Well, they claim it to be true and fair so let’s give the benefit of the doubt and beside, they are going to investigate this one and hopefully they find nothing because if there’s a malicious transaction with that, probably they will lose the trust of the public and the bettors itself.

[samcrypto]

It is possible but to have this pattern from 9x1 to 9x6 results plus this is Philippines. I'm not embarrassing my own country here but I think something is fishy with this one. It's rare to even have a three jackpot winner then now we have 433. Lmao. Given there's also an allegations of corruption in this agency. Now, i'm having a doubt and won't bet with this lottery.

Corruption is the main reason why many doesn’t believe on this one, imagine having that volume of winners in lottery, it looks like a well planned scenario. Well, they claim it to be true and fair so let’s give the benefit of the doubt and beside, they are going to investigate this one and hopefully they find nothing because if there’s a malicious transaction with that, probably they will lose the trust of the public and the bettors itself.

Corruption issues are still with them, they can make someone a winner but it's hard to know if this is true or not. Commission on Audit should look into this, or other government agencies to address the possible corruption. Many analysis says that this is too impossible to happen, but it happened. I'm also having a doubt with this one, I can't figure it out if those winners really have the same numbers in mind and place a bet in the same day. 

[STT]

All numbers are equal would be the standard take on probability calculations for comparing any kind of consideration in terms of likelihood.   There are many different numbers like dates that could occur, some very famous recognized dates are no less likely then just random appearing insignificant arrangement.    The only thing that might be possible to say is the idea of repetition, so if only single digit numbers appear one week then maybe it becomes more likely double digit numbers appear in future, averaged over time that might be easier to say as its only a slight effect.

[Yogee]

Talk about the probability or possibility of having 433 winners for a 6D lottery in a single draw hehe. I don't think they would change the weight of the ball to rig the result or manipulate the Math behind each draw. I would think of this as just an anomaly until there are more evidence that suggests it isn't.

[BitDane]

It is possible but to have this pattern from 9x1 to 9x6 results plus this is Philippines. I'm not embarrassing my own country here but I think something is fishy with this one. It's rare to even have a three jackpot winner then now we have 433. Lmao. Given there's also an allegations of corruption in this agency. Now, i'm having a doubt and won't bet with this lottery.

There had been an allegation of corruption in this department for a long time but they are proven wrong due to lack of evidence.  I wonder who are these 433 winners of the mega jackpot  .  I never doubt that the result of this game is often rigged but it is sad that there is no valid proof of the rigged part.  Anyway, having a representative of the government doesn't mean it can't be rigged, all it takes is money to turn their eyes blind.

[Vaskiy]

Lottery itself out of luck. Here reaching specific number that gets divisible by 9 is not a big deal. There is chances of reaching it. Everything happens out of random choice. I'm not into the discussion whether it is rigged or not, but if it was rigged the authority will never go for such a number. Already they knew well we are getting into controversy with such number Selection, so surely they would've avoided it.

[goinmerry]

The first time I saw our lottery was being questioned massively by the community here and even caught the attention of one of the Senators here who want PCSO, the government branch that holds the national lottery, to give their explanation about what happened.

Can't believe PCSO released an early statement that those 433 winners really take care of that rare number of picks for long that is divisible by 9.

That's what the community here get when they want a private approach for jackpot winners not knowing it is easy to manipulate and add more winners since winners' identity can't be shown to the public due to some risks.

[dothebeats]

It is not unusual to be suspicious of the way people are being cheated at every level. And the image the OP is sharing here is spot on that it is divisible by 9. But here the matter of lottery selection should be kept in mind in which process lottery selection is being done. If all were not divisible by this 9 then there would be no doubt in anyone's mind. But I think it doesn't matter. Those are the lucky ones who got those numbers.

They say that Filipino bettors are playful when it comes to betting and no wonder why there are 433 lottery winners in one day. Maybe those people have been betting with the same winning combination for a long time. It may sound suspicious but anything unexpected can happen in gambling. If the powerhouse has not been honest, then it will also be unfair to millions of bettors who put their hope on them.

Highly unlikely. Most lotto bettors take care of their numbers very well, and most of them include birthdays of their loved ones, special numbers that signify luck, and other significant numbers on their lives. I have never met someone in my life that bet these kinds of numbers with a known pattern. They know that it's already a waste of money so they would just bet on what they feel is lucky, not some stupid patterns that requires an extreme amount of luck. Also, the department overseeing the lottery is known to have been plagued by lots of controversies, and I'm not even shocked if ever that turns out to be the case.

[chaser15]

Statistically speaking, when it comes to possibility, yes the winning numbers are possible although obviously chances to hit that set of numbers are really difficult. It's an even more high chance to be struck by lightning compared to hitting numbers 9, 18, 27, 36, 45, 54.

I feel sad for the real bettor who trusts that numbers. Maybe when the numbers was picked, that bettor is now rejoicing for a big win but surprisingly, there are other 432 winners that will be part of the share on the jackpot.