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It is doubtful that Guardiola will undertake to coach the England national team. Firstly, there he will not be able to endlessly change players, spending billions until he gets the desired squad and secondly, although Southgate did not win anything, he raised the bar quite high. Therefore, for Guardiola, the likelihood of failure will be very high. He will never take such a risk, no matter how much he sings about “new challenges.” It's just a rumor, don't take it seriously. No one wants to take excessive risks while he is in the safe box. At Manchester City he got everything, popularity, glory & also legacy, it is better for him to stay there to get more titles. Maybe he will be seen when he is no longer managing a big team & when he is too old for it. The latest rumor is about Eddie Howe, the English FA is said to have intentions of getting him, although Eddie Howe has dismissed the rumor. I have heard rumors that Guardiola will leave Manchester City to take charge of another club but this is the first time I have heard that he will take charge of the England national team. The chances of taking charge of the England national team are very low and whoever is currently in charge of the England national team is certainly doing well and the England national team management will trust him. If someone had discussed that Guardiola would leave Manchester City and take charge of another team in another league, it might have been acceptable, but the discussion here about his responsibility for the England team I think is completely baseless.
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It is doubtful that Guardiola will undertake to coach the England national team. Firstly, there he will not be able to endlessly change players, spending billions until he gets the desired squad and secondly, although Southgate did not win anything, he raised the bar quite high. Therefore, for Guardiola, the likelihood of failure will be very high. He will never take such a risk, no matter how much he sings about “new challenges.” It's just a rumor, don't take it seriously. No one wants to take excessive risks while he is in the safe box. At Manchester City he got everything, popularity, glory & also legacy, it is better for him to stay there to get more titles. Maybe he will be seen when he is no longer managing a big team & when he is too old for it. The latest rumor is about Eddie Howe, the English FA is said to have intentions of getting him, although Eddie Howe has dismissed the rumor. I have heard rumors that Guardiola will leave Manchester City to take charge of another club but this is the first time I have heard that he will take charge of the England national team. The chances of taking charge of the England national team are very low and whoever is currently in charge of the England national team is certainly doing well and the England national team management will trust him. If someone had discussed that Guardiola would leave Manchester City and take charge of another team in another league, it might have been acceptable, but the discussion here about his responsibility for the England team I think is completely baseless. Guardiola became one of the legendary coaches. Manchester City are like his child right now. That's why I don't think he will leave Manchester City, but he can coach the England national team together with Manchester City. There have been such examples in the past, although I do not find it professional, it is of course a possibility. There is England that reached the final of Euro 2024. I think Southgate is considered successful. I think there is nothing that needs to change.
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July 26, 2024, 05:05:01 AM |
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Guardiola became one of the legendary coaches. Manchester City are like his child right now. That's why I don't think he will leave Manchester City, but he can coach the England national team together with Manchester City. There have been such examples in the past, although I do not find it professional, it is of course a possibility. There is England that reached the final of Euro 2024. I think Southgate is considered successful. I think there is nothing that needs to change.
Not only does Guardiola treat Manchester City players like his own children but most managers treat their players like their own. This is not the first time Guardiola has taken charge of Manchester City, but we have seen him take charge of several teams before and then walk away to take charge of another club. Guardiola is a manager who always likes to take on challenges. He will take charge of a club that has no significant success and when he takes charge of that club he will not stay long at the club. Later he will find another club to make that club successful. There is no doubt that he has a good relationship with Manchester City but rest assured that he will leave Manchester City and take charge of another club.
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I have heard rumors that Guardiola will leave Manchester City to take charge of another club but this is the first time I have heard that he will take charge of the England national team. The chances of taking charge of the England national team are very low and whoever is currently in charge of the England national team is certainly doing well and the England national team management will trust him. If someone had discussed that Guardiola would leave Manchester City and take charge of another team in another league, it might have been acceptable, but the discussion here about his responsibility for the England team I think is completely baseless. I have said before that this is just a rumor, there is no real reason why Guardiola will become the manager of the England national team, after all he is still quite good at club level, and i think if he leaves Manchester City, he should go to another big club. In fact, of the 4 big leagues in Europe, he has never been a manager in Serie A, maybe this could be a good opportunity for him, to add a good journey to his manager's career.
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Guardiola became one of the legendary coaches. Manchester City are like his child right now. That's why I don't think he will leave Manchester City, but he can coach the England national team together with Manchester City. There have been such examples in the past, although I do not find it professional, it is of course a possibility. There is England that reached the final of Euro 2024. I think Southgate is considered successful. I think there is nothing that needs to change.
However, in my opinion, I think differently from you, changes are definitely necessary. You can always find new ways or new winning combinations and this is not to be underestimated In my opinion Guardiola as England manager would do the team a lot of good, and quite a bit. Clearly we don't decide anything about it.
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Guys, it has been 2 weeks already since we watched the finale of Euro 2024. Are you still continuing to discuss on the thread? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I'm even surprised to see the thread still being open. Then, who is your favourite for England job? There are even special odds opened to bet on: Source: https://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/england/next-permanent-managerThe odds for the biggest favourites are these. Potter - Howe - Carsley trio look much closer than the other names. I feel like it will be Potter or Howe. Potter might be more likely because of being free agent.
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--cut-- Guardiola is a manager who always likes to take on challenges. He will take charge of a club that has no significant success and when he takes charge of that club he will not stay long at the club. Later he will find another club to make that club successful. There is no doubt that he has a good relationship with Manchester City but rest assured that he will leave Manchester City and take charge of another club.
True, but for many different reasons, he has won many things, traveled the world and seen many things and also trained great players. I think the only experience he lacks is coaching a national team, so what better testing ground than coaching England? It could be a good challenge and he loves challenges and getting out of his comfort zone
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Guardiola became one of the legendary coaches. Manchester City are like his child right now. That's why I don't think he will leave Manchester City, but he can coach the England national team together with Manchester City. There have been such examples in the past, although I do not find it professional, it is of course a possibility. There is England that reached the final of Euro 2024. I think Southgate is considered successful. I think there is nothing that needs to change.
Southgate didn't do badly, but why stop at the minimum wage when you can do even better. Without taking anything away from Southgate, Pep Guardiola is an exceptional manager and in my opinion not only in his strategies. He manages to make a group of players become a team, this is very important. I remember that in my beloved Juventus, Claudio Lippi managed to do this, also in the Italian national team (see 2006)
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I understand that Pep is great and all, but I highly doubt that he would manage England, while he is I am surely happy at England as Manchester City manager, representing England doesn't really make sense for him. His style takes time, he doesn't just train players for a few days and goes to games and expect everyone to know his style, that is more Ancelotti, he can do that and that's why he is such a great manager too, but what Pep does is mastering everyone at every position on what they do, takes time but can be amazing when it's finally good with every player.
You will see that most players are usually not that amazing when they come to Peps team, they are either already stars, or they are role players, and they end up either better, or they leave with a fight, because Peps insists on one type of playing, and if you don't want that, then you can leave like Ibrahimovic for example.
All in all, I am guessing that it will be very hard for Pep to take on a national team because he has very little time to train with that team, and it would be near impossible to give Pep enough time for that. I think someone with a bit lesser name could do the job, Pep has way too big of a name to manage a national team at this point of his career.
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I understand that Pep is great and all, but I highly doubt that he would manage England, while he is I am surely happy at England as Manchester City manager, representing England doesn't really make sense for him. His style takes time, he doesn't just train players for a few days and goes to games and expect everyone to know his style, that is more Ancelotti, he can do that and that's why he is such a great manager too, but what Pep does is mastering everyone at every position on what they do, takes time but can be amazing when it's finally good with every player.
You will see that most players are usually not that amazing when they come to Peps team, they are either already stars, or they are role players, and they end up either better, or they leave with a fight, because Peps insists on one type of playing, and if you don't want that, then you can leave like Ibrahimovic for example.
All in all, I am guessing that it will be very hard for Pep to take on a national team because he has very little time to train with that team, and it would be near impossible to give Pep enough time for that. I think someone with a bit lesser name could do the job, Pep has way too big of a name to manage a national team at this point of his career.
Why shouldn't it? At Fien it is a new challenge, perhaps he would earn little but in my opinion this type of challenge likes Pep Guardiola. In any case, I have a feeling that we'll find out soon, I predict that something will happen after the holidays. What do you think?
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July 31, 2024, 06:02:33 PM |
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--cut-- Guardiola is a manager who always likes to take on challenges. He will take charge of a club that has no significant success and when he takes charge of that club he will not stay long at the club. Later he will find another club to make that club successful. There is no doubt that he has a good relationship with Manchester City but rest assured that he will leave Manchester City and take charge of another club.
True, but for many different reasons, he has won many things, traveled the world and seen many things and also trained great players. I think the only experience he lacks is coaching a national team, so what better testing ground than coaching England? It could be a good challenge and he loves challenges and getting out of his comfort zone It will definitely be a different venture for him. Earlier he traveled to different countries and took charge of different clubs in different countries and he brought success to that club but now if there is an offer from England national football team then he might think about taking charge. There have been rumors so we are discussing these things but whether he will take charge of the national team depends entirely on Pep Guardiwala. As this manager likes to take challenges, if he gets an offer from the England national team, it will definitely be a challenge for him because even though England gave birth to football, they have not achieved much in football so far. If the team wins a major tournament under this manager, it will surely be a matter of great joy for the England national football team.
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Guys, it has been 2 weeks already since we watched the finale of Euro 2024. Are you still continuing to discuss on the thread? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I'm even surprised to see the thread still being open. Then, who is your favourite for England job? There are even special odds opened to bet on: Source: https://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/england/next-permanent-managerThe odds for the biggest favourites are these. Potter - Howe - Carsley trio look much closer than the other names. I feel like it will be Potter or Howe. Potter might be more likely because of being free agent. Graham Potter for sure, I understand Howe has a huge chance too, but those two are definitely the leading candidates, with a third option that will only be considered if these two backs out, if one of these two accepts the job, it's theirs for taking and England would be glad to get them. You need to realize, you are not going to get a great manager for nation teams, look at all the big national teams, from France to Italy to Germany to England and Brazil and even Argentina, all of them have managers that will not be managers at a high club level, they would barely get a job at a semi decent club at best. Managing a national team is something managers do not want to do, only the ones who want their name to get recognized and move for a better job accept these jobs because they feel like they have no better option. So in that logic, most of these are not really candidates and only Howe and Potter are the real candidates. I personally prefer Potter because he looks like the better manager but that's just my opinion and I could be wrong, in either case, it's going to be either Howe or Potter without a doubt. The best way to see this would be waiting, but I already made my small bet on Potter.
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July 31, 2024, 07:19:17 PM |
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I have heard rumors that Guardiola will leave Manchester City to take charge of another club but this is the first time I have heard that he will take charge of the England national team. The chances of taking charge of the England national team are very low and whoever is currently in charge of the England national team is certainly doing well and the England national team management will trust him.
If someone had discussed that Guardiola would leave Manchester City and take charge of another team in another league, it might have been acceptable, but the discussion here about his responsibility for the England team I think is completely baseless.
I don't find merit on the rumor that points out that Guardiola will be leaving Manchester City to England national team and I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon. Guardiola contract with Man City is still active and will only expire by the end of this season from the information I have. As we are talking about the possibility of Guardiola leaving Manchester City for another team, we should also not roll out the fact that Guardiola may still extend his contract with the Man City club for extra seasons.
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