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Author Topic: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers➡Group Stage➡1/8➡QF➡HF➡FINAL  (Read 46110 times)
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July 12, 2024, 11:26:49 AM
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The reason is that so far only Spain has made people so excited and because of that everyone wants them to win the Euros this year. Even though it was not easy with their current regeneration facing other strong teams, they managed to prove that they were the strongest until they reached the final round.

Almost all the records for being the youngest player have been won by Lamine Yamal and if he manages to win the Euros with Spain then this record will be very difficult for any player to break in a very long time.

On the other hand, I'm actually still curious about how England will stop Spain later and it's enough to make people wonder whether Southgate can change his tactics or just make people bored again. Cheesy
England's game was boring but this game brought them to the final round. Although many people think that every victory achieved by England was due to luck. but I think apart from luck of course they also have other things that other teams don't have. That is, they can play patiently and maintain their mentality until the final minutes of the match. So many of the matches that England won were because of goals in the last minute or in the minute of added time. Because they never seem to let their guard down even when the match is almost over. This is the greater value of the English national team apart from the depth of their squad. As for Spain's advantages, I think we can all see them clearly. And yes, it is natural that the majority expect them to become champions. because they really have the appropriate quality of play if they have to win the Euros this time. but in the Finals even strong teams will be more careful and will not be as aggressive as usual. So the final match can sometimes be quite boring when all the teams decide to play carefully. but the final match could also be a very heated match if both teams decide to play attacking from the start.

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July 12, 2024, 12:01:08 PM
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We are not talking about individual players, if you look at it from that perspective, of course there are more good players in the England team, but we are looking at the overall performance of the team, it is clear that Spain has been much better since the group stage, they are the most consistent team.
However, in the final anything is possible to happen, it is also a consideration that no team is overly favored.

Personally, I also hope that England will win, they have entered the final twice in a row, it would be quite a shame if they both lost.
Agree, even though we are all aware that Spain is the team with the greatest chance of winning, England, who we thought would fail early, actually qualified as the opponent that Spain will face. With what England has shown despite their lack of passion on the field, if in the final our view will change slightly by placing hope that England can win. Isn't it fun to see this team fight hard to beat Spain in the final.
Like it or not, we leave it to Southgate, our criticism of him may be different because there is no other choice if you want to see Spain lose, so Southgate must be fully supported.

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July 12, 2024, 12:28:14 PM
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The reason is that so far only Spain has made people so excited and because of that everyone wants them to win the Euros this year. Even though it was not easy with their current regeneration facing other strong teams, they managed to prove that they were the strongest until they reached the final round.

Almost all the records for being the youngest player have been won by Lamine Yamal and if he manages to win the Euros with Spain then this record will be very difficult for any player to break in a very long time.

On the other hand, I'm actually still curious about how England will stop Spain later and it's enough to make people wonder whether Southgate can change his tactics or just make people bored again. Cheesy
England's game was boring but this game brought them to the final round. Although many people think that every victory achieved by England was due to luck. but I think apart from luck of course they also have other things that other teams don't have. That is, they can play patiently and maintain their mentality until the final minutes of the match.
honestly, England games are far from being boring and it's not as though they aren't playing well as a team. The reason why most people don't fancy thier pattern of play and don't see it as a big deal even after they've reached the finals is that with all the squared they have, England is supposed to be the perfect team you can boldly stake games in their favour and relax with the certainty that the game will play as predicted but that's not fans see from them. I won't be supprised if they are able to win Spain in the finals cause if they put Thier minds into the game, they have all it takes to win this Euros. I mean, the yamal that's being hyped up and down in the Spain team isn't even better than Cole Palmer, foden or maino and with average player at the Spain side, you almost have a better player at the English side who is only underperforming and can pick form in the finals.

So many of the matches that England won were because of goals in the last minute or in the minute of added time. Because they never seem to let their guard down even when the match is almost over. This is the greater value of the English national team apart from the depth of their squad. As for Spain's advantages, I think we can all see them clearly. And yes, it is natural that the majority expect them to become champions. because they really have the appropriate quality of play if they have to win the Euros this time. but in the Finals even strong teams will be more careful and will not be as aggressive as usual. So the final match can sometimes be quite boring when all the teams decide to play carefully. but the final match could also be a very heated match if both teams decide to play attacking from the start.
the main reason why England isn't scoring more goals during the game time is because harry Kane hasn't been at his best in this tournament and it's the same thing that Portugal suffered in Thier teams while they allowed Ronaldo to play all the complete minutes even when he's underperforming.  If Southgate brings in an alternative player into the attack and don't keep harry Kane as almost a minus on the attack, England would have scored more goals by now. But then, it appears as through Southgate is a very stubborn coach who likes sticking to his tactics and fortunate for him he has made it to the finals and whatever comes out it wouldn't be looked at seriously since most persons are already expecting Spain to win. It's going to be a tough game but from what I'm seeing, it's likely an England trophy for the season.

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July 12, 2024, 12:33:39 PM
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I haven't been watching the Euros closely this year but just from first glance, I have a hunch that Portugal and England could make it far up to at least the semis...  Dunno but I feel like Gareth Southgate and Roberto Martinez are the lucky ones.  I fancy them to go to the final if their paths don't meet in the Round of 16, quarter finals or the semi finals.

And for the lulz, made a small net on a 4 leg parlay with England, France, Belgium and Portugal at 3.79.  Grin

England? That's laughable.




Uh...  Wut?  Told you they'll get far.  And it will be hilarious to see if England wins as there are lots of people hating on the English National team.  Now because of that, I hope they really win.  And make it via pens please...  Let the 16 year old Spanish kid choke under pressure.  Grin Grin

But yeah, I think it's gonna be 1 - 1 with the Spanish going all out offense and with England sitting deep and waiting for the counter.  Spain gets it 1 - 0 early in the second half but Bellingham gets one in at the 90th minute.  Book it.  

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July 12, 2024, 12:40:11 PM
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Like it or not, we leave it to Southgate, our criticism of him may be different because there is no other choice if you want to see Spain lose, so Southgate must be fully supported.
Southgate did not help England to play attacking attractive and convincingly but in results, he is maximizing it and will be considered as hero of the nation if England wins Euro 2024 this summer. It will be their biggest trophy after 6 decades that is a long waiting time enough to massively celebrate the trophy.

the main reason why England isn't scoring more goals during the game time is because harry Kane hasn't been at his best in this tournament
Generally this is because of England team, Kane's team mates, not only from Kane. His team mates did not create enough key passes to Harry Kane and when he is target of opponent's defenders, he struggled to find space and create opportunities by himself.

In some matches, we saw that both Saka, Foden, Jude did not give Kane enough support in attacking. He is not at his best form but with poor performances of other players, it's unfair to blame all reasons on Harry Kane.

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July 12, 2024, 12:42:26 PM
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Regarding Harry Kane, it looks like a coincidence but it seems like this always happens. Even Tottenham, after being left by Kane, also experienced quite good improvements. They even competed for the title at one point last season, although they failed. And Kane went to Bayern Munich and after a long time Munich won the Bundesliga and the season Kane joined, the club ultimately failed to win the title for that season. And the England national team has entered the final twice and in the previous season this team failed. but it would be very interesting if at this Euro England managed to win. This will break everything people say about Kane. And in the end Kane will succeed in lifting the trophy for the first time in a major competition. But if I had to be honest with my own analysis then I would probably choose Spain. Because so far they have continued to show quality that is above other teams. It's just that I have a little doubt about the mentality of the young players there. where the sensation of pressure from the Final match will clearly be different. And this sometimes has an impact on young players who still lack experience.
It seems there is something like bad luck following Harry Kane. I was discussing football with a colleague this morning and I was trying to convince him that England have more experienced players to match the Spanish side that I felt had more younger and inexperienced players even though they are good at their job. He asked me to mention the supposed experienced players in England and I mention Walker, Harry Kane and he stopped me immediately saying that Harry Kane has never won anything serious in his football career. I was shocked as why such a high quality player will not have anything to his career as achievement. Seeing your comment now shows that there is some element of truth in my colleague's claim.

If Spain finally win this trophy, then I doubt Harry Kane will be able to change his ordeal because he has a golden opportunity to prove the world wrong in terms of him winning titles.

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July 12, 2024, 12:47:23 PM
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The odds for the match seem to me to be strangely distributed. Spain's odds are almost equal to a draw, showing that this match has the potential to end in a draw. Although Spain is better both in my eyes and in terms of odds, it should be said that Spain can also win this match after extra time. The 2 teams have both scored and conceded goals in the matches they played after the group stage. It seems likely that there will be a mutual goal in this match.

These are the odds for a win in regulation time; if we take the odds for the title holder, they look more reasonable - 1.68 for Spain and 2.20 for England. England are not so bad that the likelihood of them holding a draw is much worse than that of Spain winning in normal time, so in the end the quotes are fair. But of course I would rate Spain as the stronger favourite.

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July 12, 2024, 01:01:29 PM
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- 1.68 for Spain and 2.20 for England.
1.68 for Spain to be title holder is still a really good quote, considering how impressive Spain is playing so far. England will face an uphill battle against a more rested Spanish team because Spain already played one day sooner.
When it comes to evaluation what will be key in Sunday's match we can say for sure it is conquering balls: who will be able to conquer a ball and switch more quickly? Spain has better players like Olmo, William or Spanish Musiala, who are know to be good in dribbling and sprint as well as shots.
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We are not talking about individual players, if you look at it from that perspective, of course there are more good players in the England team, but we are looking at the overall performance of the team, it is clear that Spain has been much better since the group stage, they are the most consistent team.
However, in the final anything is possible to happen, it is also a consideration that no team is overly favored.

Personally, I also hope that England will win, they have entered the final twice in a row, it would be quite a shame if they both lost.
Agree, even though we are all aware that Spain is the team with the greatest chance of winning, England, who we thought would fail early, actually qualified as the opponent that Spain will face. With what England has shown despite their lack of passion on the field, if in the final our view will change slightly by placing hope that England can win. Isn't it fun to see this team fight hard to beat Spain in the final.
Like it or not, we leave it to Southgate, our criticism of him may be different because there is no other choice if you want to see Spain lose, so Southgate must be fully supported.
It will be a good thing to see England fight and succeed where Germany and France failed to succeed. But I wonder if England will still be in this competition if they had faced the kind of Opponents that Spain had faced on their way to the final. I want England to be at their best so that the final won't be boring. I want them to be as hungry as Spain on that particular day. I don't want to see an England side that will sit deep in their own half waiting for a penalty shootout. I want to see the action we saw in the last world cup final between France and Argentina. Spain has been doing that since the beginning of this tournament but I can't say that about England. Hopefully their game tactics changes on the final day.

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July 12, 2024, 01:20:05 PM
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We are not talking about individual players, if you look at it from that perspective, of course there are more good players in the England team, but we are looking at the overall performance of the team, it is clear that Spain has been much better since the group stage, they are the most consistent team.
However, in the final anything is possible to happen, it is also a consideration that no team is overly favored.

Personally, I also hope that England will win, they have entered the final twice in a row, it would be quite a shame if they both lost.
Agree, even though we are all aware that Spain is the team with the greatest chance of winning, England, who we thought would fail early, actually qualified as the opponent that Spain will face. With what England has shown despite their lack of passion on the field, if in the final our view will change slightly by placing hope that England can win. Isn't it fun to see this team fight hard to beat Spain in the final.
Like it or not, we leave it to Southgate, our criticism of him may be different because there is no other choice if you want to see Spain lose, so Southgate must be fully supported.
It will be a good thing to see England fight and succeed where Germany and France failed to succeed. But I wonder if England will still be in this competition if they had faced the kind of Opponents that Spain had faced on their way to the final. I want England to be at their best so that the final won't be boring. I want them to be as hungry as Spain on that particular day. I don't want to see an England side that will sit deep in their own half waiting for a penalty shootout. I want to see the action we saw in the last world cup final between France and Argentina. Spain has been doing that since the beginning of this tournament but I can't say that about England. Hopefully their game tactics changes on the final day.

Spain appeared so consistent at Euro 2024, and in fact they always won all of those matches. What they play also looks nice to look at, and that is very different from what England showed. England's game looks very monotonous and boring. But strangely, even though they were in a critical situation, England always seemed to find a solution and win. So taking these factors into consideration, I feel England can make a surprise in the final.

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July 12, 2024, 01:36:14 PM
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Spain - England, let's see... Spain have reached this stage by winning all of their games. Only one of them went to extra time, that's all.



England's results aren't as impressive as that I'm afraid. Despite having the strongest squad in Euro 2024, they still had serious difficulties while reaching the final.

Spain are really good with having the control in hand in their games. Just like France, I think England are up next. Spain deserved the title the most so far. I would like to see them getting what they deserve at the end.  Smiley

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July 12, 2024, 01:36:36 PM
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We are not talking about individual players, if you look at it from that perspective, of course there are more good players in the England team, but we are looking at the overall performance of the team, it is clear that Spain has been much better since the group stage, they are the most consistent team.
However, in the final anything is possible to happen, it is also a consideration that no team is overly favored.

Personally, I also hope that England will win, they have entered the final twice in a row, it would be quite a shame if they both lost.
Agree, even though we are all aware that Spain is the team with the greatest chance of winning, England, who we thought would fail early, actually qualified as the opponent that Spain will face. With what England has shown despite their lack of passion on the field, if in the final our view will change slightly by placing hope that England can win. Isn't it fun to see this team fight hard to beat Spain in the final.
Like it or not, we leave it to Southgate, our criticism of him may be different because there is no other choice if you want to see Spain lose, so Southgate must be fully supported.

In comparison, we favor the Spain team, but the England team is quite strong. And reaching the finals is a lot of hard work, so no team should be neglected. In the final games it is normal for any team to be aggressive at any time to win the cup, they are more likely to turn around.Harry Kane he respects his team enough so everyone is a hardworking player so based on his experience there is a possibility for England team to win.
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Spain appeared so consistent at Euro 2024, and in fact they always won all of those matches. What they play also looks nice to look at, and that is very different from what England showed. England's game looks very monotonous and boring. But strangely, even though they were in a critical situation, England always seemed to find a solution and win. So taking these factors into consideration, I feel England can make a surprise in the final.
Likewise, when facing the Netherlands, England gave a surprise. They scored goals at the game's end, which frustrated the opponents.
Spain is the favorite, but we can't ignore England who made it to the final round.
The final match will be exciting when both teams show their best game, not trying to play defensively. but we'll see the strategy of the two coaches in the final match. if both play openly, there is a possibility that both teams will score a goal. but if either shows a stronger defensive game, maybe the two will be even in normal time.

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Guys i repeat the only thing in favor of England is LUCK yes only that after that they were not good in defense and not good on offensive, Spain was doing briliant job in both ends. This is football and everything can happen and England still has more super players than Spain but in term of team chemistry they lack all.

Spain took out two super teams like Germany and France.

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July 12, 2024, 02:20:52 PM
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Spain's championship odds are low on betting sites, so they are favorites.
I also saw that most people were betting that Spain would win the match. If England pull off a surprise and win the match, it will be a sad situation for many.
My favorite is Spain, but the effect of the final matches is very different, please bet enough to not upset yourself.

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July 12, 2024, 02:31:16 PM
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I haven't been watching the Euros closely this year but just from first glance, I have a hunch that Portugal and England could make it far up to at least the semis...  Dunno but I feel like Gareth Southgate and Roberto Martinez are the lucky ones.  I fancy them to go to the final if their paths don't meet in the Round of 16, quarter finals or the semi finals.

And for the lulz, made a small net on a 4 leg parlay with England, France, Belgium and Portugal at 3.79.  Grin

England? That's laughable.




Uh...  Wut?  Told you they'll get far.  And it will be hilarious to see if England wins as there are lots of people hating on the English National team.  Now because of that, I hope they really win.  And make it via pens please...  Let the 16 year old Spanish kid choke under pressure.  Grin Grin

But yeah, I think it's gonna be 1 - 1 with the Spanish going all out offense and with England sitting deep and waiting for the counter.  Spain gets it 1 - 0 early in the second half but Bellingham gets one in at the 90th minute.  Book it.  

*Nobody scores at the couple of extra times given*

What a comeback!! Grin You must be Manchester United fan? But man, did you see that hand ball from Saka before that ball move to Harry Kane? VAR made some poor decisions that night anf I wasn't pleased, they are part of the new bodies turning football into something else with them weird decisions.

They have been in this same finals four years ago, I'd say they have experience failure so they'll have the experience to win it this time around. Hopefully, Cole Palmer and Kobbie Mainoo starts the game. Why would you want Lamine Yamal to choke? WT actual Fvck? Grin I feel like he is good but the hype is just too much lately. Luke Shaw back and will definitely pocket him on Sunday.

Jude Bellingham should win the Golden Boot then?!  And also the Ballon d'or? Man football so unpredictable and never say never, never say its over tills over. I undermined Gareth Southgate to the last minute, Godspeed with the finals, he has done well to bring them to the finals.

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July 12, 2024, 02:35:02 PM
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Spain took out two super teams like Germany and France.

Here Spain team is at the forefront, as they beat strong teams to enter the finals. Every player in the Spain squad is experienced, especially the defense is stronger. The opposing team tried hard to suppress its defense but could not succeed. That's why Spain team performs well with any team and has become a strong team.
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July 12, 2024, 02:38:21 PM
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Spain's championship odds are low on betting sites, so they are favorites.
I also saw that most people were betting that Spain would win the match. If England pull off a surprise and win the match, it will be a sad situation for many.
My favorite is Spain, but the effect of the final matches is very different, please bet enough to not upset yourself.
Spain are favorites to win Euro 2024. But every game has its momentum and surprises. Who knows, England might go and win it as underdogs!
Spain has shown great performance and skill, but England has improved with each match. The final is set, and the champion will be the team that performs better. England is lucky to be in the final based on their tournament so far, so what if luck keep favoring them.
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July 12, 2024, 03:34:39 PM
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Spain are favorites to win Euro 2024. But every game has its momentum and surprises. Who knows, England might go and win it as underdogs!
Spain has shown great performance and skill, but England has improved with each match. The final is set, and the champion will be the team that performs better. England is lucky to be in the final based on their tournament so far, so what if luck keep favoring them.


Spain are undoubtedly favourites. The team's performance has been very strong since the group stage. And the Spain team is playing to win the championship. In every match we have seen strong performances from Spain. And most importantly, Spain's team bonding is very strong. Due to good team bonding, this team is able to consistently perform well in every match.

In the last 5 meetings between these two teams, both teams have won two matches each. And only one match was drawn. The performance of both the teams was good in the face-to-face match. Moreover, the squad of England team is very strong. Even I think England's squad is stronger than Spain's. But this team lags behind Spain due to weak team bonding. Also, Spain's match strategy is better than England's. For these reasons, despite England's strong squad, we consider Spain as the favorite in this match. But England is fully capable of winning against Spain.

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July 12, 2024, 03:42:10 PM
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A tight match is still possible in this case but for the champion I still have confidence that Spain will have a better chance than England.
It is undeniable that with England's performance like this they can get to the final is a very good thing indeed to save the face of Southgate who is in fact a coach with the highest pay for this Euro.
But if you reflect on the final experience in the end Spain is still better than England.

This is the second consecutive final for England because in the 2020 season they were also able to advance to the final despite losing to Italy at that time. It's just that I still see England as ordinary in the hands of Southgate and fortunately England did not get tough opponents like Spain in this competition because from the group phase to the semi-finals actually saw the opponents England faced were all below them in terms of level except maybe for Switzerland who were dark horses and the Netherlands who had almost equal strength. The rest in the group stage were below England's level and that was an advantage for them.

Personally I believe that England is very strong but has a coach who fails to bring out the qualities of the English players. In this edition of the tournament I have not liked England's performance at all, and if they are in the final they have to say countless times thanks to Jude Bellingham who with that backhand kick managed to give his England team courage. Spain has so far proved to be the strongest national team of the tournament and for me they are the favourites for the final victory of this European Championship.
We dont need to deny that because looking at the players England brought for this Euro, it is clear that they are players who do have a myriad of players ,  especially they play in well known competitions and even some of them already have outstanding achievements in their clubs so there is no need to doubt that the England squad in terms of players is very strong. It's just that the problem is in terms of the game scheme carried out. I will not say that Southgate is a bad coach for now but he is coaching England it is not very appropriate because in my opinion there should be a better coach than Southgate in coaching a team of this size and Southgate himself is not very qualified to coach England but he is not bad, its just that his coaching level should not be here.  But that doesn't need to be discussed now because England should also have seen how Southgate's qualifications are so it would be quite funny if they still continue to keep this coach later .

The focus is still on the final now because after all this is the final match and England must be really serious about this match so that they do not make this a regret especially the championship target must definitely be there because after all they were also finalists last season even though it is still very difficult to win now but their target should not be released just like that.

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