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England will not change its strategy because this is the best strategy of Southgate even though we realize that this scheme is quite bad because with this scheme England plays always monotonous because the performance is not as expected but nothing can be done because Southgate's strength in coaching is only up to this level.
Although there is indeed a slight difference with them playing a little better for this semi-final when compared to the previous game but still in the end England's game has not improved throughout this Euro.
The final they will face Spain, this is definitely the most difficult condition or even the most difficult match they have done so far because from the group phase to the semi-finals only the Netherlands is their strongest opponent and comparable in terms of level but for the final they will get a more commensurate opponent even far superior when talking about finals and champions.
England played very well yesterday, if you evaluate in the game they acted better in attack, maybe the reason is that they conceded first, because they always start playing more actively after that, but they acted like that from the very beginning, the Netherlands decided to give them the initiative and perhaps this was their mistake. Perhaps the moment with the penalty was dubious, I can’t determine for sure, on the one hand it was a kick on Kane’s foot, on the other hand it was after hitting the ball, anyway, England are in the final and now Spain is waiting for its opponent. The group stage and second round of this competition were boring. The games were not very entertaining maybe because the players have not blended. There were fewer goals and teams had to depend on luck to win. But there has been an improvement in the games in the quarterfinal and more quality matches in the semi-finals. The first semifinal match between France and Spain was good but yesterday's game was classy. Both teams were outstanding but what made the difference was the tactical strategy of the English coach Gareth Southgate. Cole Palmer and Ollie Watkins were just the magic cards. I have always doubted the competence of Southgate but my stance is changing gradually.
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July 11, 2024, 08:01:01 AM |
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We watched a similar game to Spain - France first of all. Multiple goals in the first half and a boring second half. However it was still nice to see 3 goals in regular time. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The penalty decision has been discussed a lot. Honestly I believe it was the right decision. There was clearly a kick to the foot there so it must be deserving a penalty. The funny thing was that Palmer and Watkins both entered the game late and changed the fate of it. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I just don't understand why Southgate doesn't start with Palmer... Watkins' goals was superb by the way as his angle was really tight. Now we have Spain - England finale and I'm all in for Spain. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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July 11, 2024, 08:29:05 AM |
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Ohhh it turns out that Ollie Watkins was the one who delivered England to the final to meet Spain, not surprisingly only Southgate was able to deliver his national team to the final several times.
Many doubted Southgate in previous matches (including myself doubting) but now realize that Southgate's tactics are better than other coaches where we also did not expect that England would go to the final while previously judging from the resistance of Switzerland and Slovakia which at the beginning it was difficult to win.
We will see the final in a few days, do you believe England can beat Spain? Statistically, no, but anything can happen and we have to enjoy it.
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July 11, 2024, 08:34:25 AM |
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We watched a similar game to Spain - France first of all. Multiple goals in the first half and a boring second half. However it was still nice to see 3 goals in regular time. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The penalty decision has been discussed a lot. Honestly I believe it was the right decision. There was clearly a kick to the foot there so it must be deserving a penalty. The funny thing was that Palmer and Watkins both entered the game late and changed the fate of it. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I just don't understand why Southgate doesn't start with Palmer... Watkins' goals was superb by the way as his angle was really tight. Now we have Spain - England finale and I'm all in for Spain. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Regardless of what happens, I think England deserved to win the match and advance to the final. This was quite a fierce match, I saw the Netherlands play so openly in the second half that they had to concede in the final minutes of the match, it was very painful. The final will be England vs Spain, these are two different teams if we look at the start of this tournament, Spain has been quite consistent so they are in the final while England's performance is not that good but if we look overall there is improvement in each match. I favored England in the final, Euro 2020, then they were also in the final but lost to Italy so I hope that doesn't happen again this year.
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July 11, 2024, 08:43:46 AM Last edit: July 11, 2024, 08:56:05 AM by asriloni |
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Excuse me, English or Spanish? *Insert this sound effectIt will be boring match because both of them will not move until the referee blows the whistle. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I know everyone is now supports Spain to win the final against England. Spain has done great since the group stage. But, I'm still sticking to my choice. I believe England will win the last game in Euro 2024. I know my chance to win is slightly lower than anyone who is now rooting for Spain. But, I still trust in England. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2FHLWpkSLd%2FBJdg.png&t=665&c=qRMED2RlYTc2_w) So, i bet in england. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Is there someone who bet on england? One thing is for certain, England will get outplayed by Spain, what is not certain is if they'll win despite outplaying Engagement. If Spain can make use of their chances and defend properly, then they'll definitely win.
Yeah I believe Harry Kane's curse is still working, it doesn't mean Kane is a bad player, he contribute a lot for England, but despite his big contribution, he will not get any trophy. That's it. Kane's curse is still ongoing. I hope Southgate will consider replacing him. Southgate should do it with another striker in England's squad. Kane can soon sit on the bench, then wait for his teammates to carry him to get euro 2024 trophy. This is better for kane rather than play, but his team won't get the trophy. If Southgate is smart enough to bench kane, and im sure england can win the competition.
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July 11, 2024, 08:49:11 AM |
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We watched a similar game to Spain - France first of all. Multiple goals in the first half and a boring second half. However it was still nice to see 3 goals in regular time. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The penalty decision has been discussed a lot. Honestly I believe it was the right decision. There was clearly a kick to the foot there so it must be deserving a penalty. The funny thing was that Palmer and Watkins both entered the game late and changed the fate of it. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I just don't understand why Southgate doesn't start with Palmer... Watkins' goals was superb by the way as his angle was really tight. Now we have Spain - England finale and I'm all in for Spain. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Previously I thought the match would be boring because after what we saw previously in the matches they had so far, but what happened was unexpected, both teams played quite impressively throughout the first half and continued to be able to put a lot of pressure on both teams defenses, even though we didn't see a fierce match like in the France and Spain match, but in my opinion the match between England and the Netherlands was quite entertaining to watch, England managed to beat the Netherlands very dramatically and the inclusion of Watkins was actually the difference for the England squad in that match, from several previous matches previously played by England, it was clear that their game was starting to improve a little and would most likely be able to trouble Spain in the final round. The match between Spain and England will be the final match that is quite eagerly awaited, but if we look at the current statistics of the two teams, of course Spain is the team that is more favored to win the Euro this year, England game is starting to improve but Southgate should still be able to improve the quality of the game them to face Spain who have so far had an aggressive game.
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England will not change its strategy because this is the best strategy of Southgate even though we realize that this scheme is quite bad because with this scheme England plays always monotonous because the performance is not as expected but nothing can be done because Southgate's strength in coaching is only up to this level.
Although there is indeed a slight difference with them playing a little better for this semi-final when compared to the previous game but still in the end England's game has not improved throughout this Euro.
The final they will face Spain, this is definitely the most difficult condition or even the most difficult match they have done so far because from the group phase to the semi-finals only the Netherlands is their strongest opponent and comparable in terms of level but for the final they will get a more commensurate opponent even far superior when talking about finals and champions.
England played very well yesterday, if you evaluate in the game they acted better in attack, maybe the reason is that they conceded first, because they always start playing more actively after that, but they acted like that from the very beginning, the Netherlands decided to give them the initiative and perhaps this was their mistake. Perhaps the moment with the penalty was dubious, I can’t determine for sure, on the one hand it was a kick on Kane’s foot, on the other hand it was after hitting the ball, anyway, England are in the final and now Spain is waiting for its opponent. England seems to have a tendency to play according to the level of their opponents. When they play against a team that is actually below them, England can't play impressively and they seem to be getting carried away by the flow of their opponent's game. Vice versa, when they play against big teams like the Netherlands, England can actually play well because they adjust to what their opponents do, and it even gives them control of the game. If the England team really had characteristics and tendencies like that, then there is a possibility that they would be able to match Spain throughout the game.
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July 11, 2024, 09:02:27 AM |
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England seems to have a tendency to play according to the level of their opponents. When they play against a team that is actually below them, England can't play impressively and they seem to be getting carried away by the flow of their opponent's game. Vice versa, when they play against big teams like the Netherlands, England can actually play well because they adjust to what their opponents do, and it even gives them control of the game. If the England team really had characteristics and tendencies like that, then there is a possibility that they would be able to match Spain throughout the game.
England perform well on semifinal match regarding for the first time made 5 shots on target than usually match since phase group until quarter final, after conceded early on 7th minutes England make good improvement with their performance by huge pressure and make Netherland national team difficult return back to their better games play. England control the games since conceded on the early minutes until end of second half how their ball possession dominance more than 59% than Netherland get huge pressure with ball dominance only 41%. Seems no doubt to put England as favorite winner for Euro 2024 against Spain in the final if play well as their tactician against Netherland national team, but Spain has chance with their player absent Dani Carvajal will be ready for the final match and make England get bit difficult on left side. I think become interested with the ideal final between Spain vs England if both team can play with high intention and brave with open play tactician.
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July 11, 2024, 09:21:13 AM |
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And if they meet the Netherlands in the final, will it be easier for them? I think that just as Spain was the best, the same can be said about the Netherlands, of course, except for the defeat with Austria, I don’t know how they managed to lose this match. I don’t think that England will change its strategy because today it will have a more difficult opponent, especially since the Netherlands have always been an inconvenient opponent for England, and they with Netherlands will definitely act just as carefully.
England will not change its strategy because this is the best strategy of Southgate even though we realize that this scheme is quite bad because with this scheme England plays always monotonous because the performance is not as expected but nothing can be done because Southgate's strength in coaching is only up to this level. Although there is indeed a slight difference with them playing a little better for this semi-final when compared to the previous game but still in the end England's game has not improved throughout this Euro. The final they will face Spain, this is definitely the most difficult condition or even the most difficult match they have done so far because from the group phase to the semi-finals only the Netherlands is their strongest opponent and comparable in terms of level but for the final they will get a more commensurate opponent even far superior when talking about finals and champions. Maybe that's the strength of this Southgate scheme, that everyone knows how England will play but no one can do anything about it. It should also be noted that England wins in the last minutes, showing character and will to win and what is also very important and Southgate's bench is the best of all teams at the Euros, because few can afford to keep Cole Palmer on the bench, and then release him in the last minutes and he and Watkins will decide the outcome of the game. Nevertheless, I will be rooting for Spain in the final, because without Spain it would be one of the most boring Euros in my memory.
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July 11, 2024, 09:22:58 AM |
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England perform well on semifinal match regarding for the first time made 5 shots on target than usually match since phase group until quarter final, after conceded early on 7th minutes England make good improvement with their performance by huge pressure and make Netherland national team difficult return back to their better games play. England control the games since conceded on the early minutes until end of second half how their ball possession dominance more than 59% than Netherland get huge pressure with ball dominance only 41%.
Seems no doubt to put England as favorite winner for Euro 2024 against Spain in the final if play well as their tactician against Netherland national team, but Spain has chance with their player absent Dani Carvajal will be ready for the final match and make England get bit difficult on left side. I think become interested with the ideal final between Spain vs England if both team can play with high intention and brave with open play tactician.
Carvajal will not be absent from the final, having missed the semi-final due to a red card, but he will play in the final. If England plays the same way as they played with the Netherlands, then of course their chances will not be so small, although Spain stood out among other teams from the very beginning, and they will also have one more day of rest time, perhaps this will also play a role. Spain now looks stronger, there is no doubt about it, I think that they will be able to bring this tournament to victory and become champions.
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July 11, 2024, 09:34:12 AM |
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In the end England won again. It is still a miracle they are in the tournament. Scoring goal in extra time, penalties and goal again in final minute.
Spain is much a better looking team but everything is going in favor of England so far.
On the paper it should be a win for Spain but at this point...
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July 11, 2024, 09:41:09 AM |
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Yes, I agree with the compliments, but it must be said that England were very lucky to win and go to the final, and in any case there are no doubts about the penalty awarded to Kane, in my opinion without that penalty England would have come out it was an unforgivable mistake on Dumfries' part, which in fact cost them the final, regarding the final I think it will be a very difficult match for England, Spain is really strong England managed to qualify for the Euro 2024 final in a dramatic manner. However, this success received a lopsided response and its worthiness was questioned due to a penalty drama given by the referee which changed the score to 1-1. England were very lucky this time due to the penalty, they seemed to be saved after previously falling behind through Xavi Simons beautiful goal. England managed to re-establish their rhythm after Kane managed to equalize, maybe the result would have been different if Tampa had taken the penalty, the Netherlands would have continued to dominate the match to maintain victory. This is a very crucial match, the Netherlands will try to close all the gaps to prevent English players from entering their defensive area. So I don't agree with you, maybe without this penalty, England would have lost this match.
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July 11, 2024, 09:49:06 AM |
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In the end England won again. It is still a miracle they are in the tournament. Scoring goal in extra time, penalties and goal again in final minute.
Spain is much a better looking team but everything is going in favor of England so far.
On the paper it should be a win for Spain but at this point...
Not playing well since the start of the tournament but finally they made it to the final, it was a big surprise. But in the semifinal match against the Netherlands we have to admit that there was an improvement in the performance of the English National team, they played much better with a very well organized game scheme so they deserved to win the match. For the final match against Spain, I doubt that England will surprise again. Spain has been the most consistent team since the group stage, so I think it is very likely that Spain will be able to win the final match.
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July 11, 2024, 09:54:59 AM |
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England will not change its strategy because this is the best strategy of Southgate even though we realize that this scheme is quite bad because with this scheme England plays always monotonous because the performance is not as expected but nothing can be done because Southgate's strength in coaching is only up to this level.
Although there is indeed a slight difference with them playing a little better for this semi-final when compared to the previous game but still in the end England's game has not improved throughout this Euro.
The final they will face Spain, this is definitely the most difficult condition or even the most difficult match they have done so far because from the group phase to the semi-finals only the Netherlands is their strongest opponent and comparable in terms of level but for the final they will get a more commensurate opponent even far superior when talking about finals and champions.
When it comes to Final then anything can happen, even though Southgate was a little annoying, England qualifying for the final brought a breath of fresh air to be able to show something different. Against the Netherlands yesterday, England game was a little better and different, the semifinal match might be a big gamble, therefore Southgate made the right decision to include Cole Palmer. He was the difference while playing at the Euros, he didn't say much but Palmer execution was always accurate and could create bigger opportunities. Watkins was very grateful to Palmer for the assist he made. It is indeed difficult when facing Spain, therefore whatever happens in the final, England must be able to withstand the pressing launched by the left and right sides of the young Spanish players.
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July 11, 2024, 10:12:42 AM |
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A big congratulations to the English team, for progressing to the finals of this year euros, though I thought the game would have gone to extra time, because in the first half, it was very clear that england was the better team, even though the Netherlands got the first goal, and the English team would have gotten their second goal earlier if they were taking most of their chances, in the second half the Netherlands grew into the game and start seizing the initiative which I initially thought that they would have utilize and got their second goal, but they didn't.
Honestly England deserve a big congrats with a surprise of a last minute goal against Netherland yesterday, because even I was expecting that the game will end in victory of England without going to second half, but with there much effort they make it possible by end the match with 2-1 which was big award for them. Initially Netherland performance was so amazing which many peoples was anticipating that they able to dominate the match, but once England equalized all there performance become weak that's why England have that capacity to utilize to get there second goal in dai minutes of time. So as for the final between Spain vs england, I would be betting on Spain to win by a two goal margin or more, because I don't think the English team has what it takes to tame this Spanish team that are currently on 🔥 fire.
Since everyone have his own wish and who to support, if not I will say that betting or give the Spain straight winning might end of losing your money, because with performance that England have currently now, I don't think they can have any challenges against Netherland, but we can't make early predict let wait and see what will happen since there main battle is Spain, we can see who can bring positive results that very day.
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July 11, 2024, 10:15:11 AM |
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In the end England won again. It is still a miracle they are in the tournament. Scoring goal in extra time, penalties and goal again in final minute.
I am not fan of England and don't like how they played in Euro 2024 but it's frankly to say they would have not gotten any of these if they have not tried hard. They actually tried and did not give up so somewhat we can say they deserved with what they have gotten so far. The goal to help England beating Netherlands can be a most important goal of Walkins in his career. He only has 14 caps for England team and so far, scored 4 goals with the winning goal against Netherlands as said. At his 28 age, his international career looks not good but if he can win Euro 2024 with England, he will be remembered in history. https://www.transfermarkt.com/ollie-watkins/profil/spieler/324358Spain is much a better looking team but everything is going in favor of England so far.
On the paper it should be a win for Spain but at this point...
Spain can beat England but they must avoid mistakes in defense because England have many players who can score important goals from Spanish player mistakes if occur. In the final match, Spain can use their good ball possession ability to control the match and make English players turn to be impatient, then they can have goals and lead the match. After having a leading goal, the match can become more easily for Spain with their great ball possessing ability.
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July 11, 2024, 10:20:41 AM |
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The Netherland had to start defending and waiting for a counterattacks just after England leveled with them with Kane's penalty. This gave England control of the entire game taking possession of the midfield down to Netherland yard box, increasing their pressure. I had expected that the dutch will come out and tap this ball with the English boys making the game much entertaining as Spain vs France was but it's just get boring with how they sit behinds their goal post waiting for England to keep pressing them with deadly shots.
Even now in the second half we can see the Netherlands just continuing to defend and waiting for the opportunity to counterattack. I think the Netherlands reduced the aggressiveness of their game in this match. And I think that could actually be detrimental to them. Because it was only a matter of time until the Dutch defense made a mistake in this match. I hope that the Dutch will also make a strategy of attacking less rather than having to wait to make a counterattack. But so far the Dutch defense is still quite tight and England has not been able to approach the Dutch defense area any deeper. And if the game continues like this then it's possible that the match will go into extra time and could even end in a penalty shootout. Netherland reactive model to the game caused them that late goal which was supposed to have been scored from the earlier. England has some of the best attackers Saka, Bellingham and Kane with Palmer and Watkins coming from the bench the pressure on Netherland was doubled, on one hand, Netherland didn't like their opponent had a good bench to change the game away from their defensive pattern. they couldn't confidently come out and face their opponent which would have reduced some of the undue pressure from England leading to that laye goal at the 89mins from Watkins
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July 11, 2024, 10:25:09 AM |
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In the end England won again. It is still a miracle they are in the tournament. Scoring goal in extra time, penalties and goal again in final minute.
Spain is much a better looking team but everything is going in favor of England so far.
On the paper it should be a win for Spain but at this point...
England surprised us all, who would have thought that Southgate's squad could break into the final by struggling in the 1/16 - 1/8 round and in the semifinals were able to beat the Netherlands with a dramatic score. We underestimated Southgate but it was a surprise from him, even with the highest salary but by entering the final of his team he deserves appreciation. On paper Spain? Surprises can come at any time...
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July 11, 2024, 10:26:48 AM |
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Ohhh it turns out that Ollie Watkins was the one who delivered England to the final to meet Spain, not surprisingly only Southgate was able to deliver his national team to the final several times.
Many doubted Southgate in previous matches (including myself doubting) but now realize that Southgate's tactics are better than other coaches where we also did not expect that England would go to the final while previously judging from the resistance of Switzerland and Slovakia which at the beginning it was difficult to win.
We will see the final in a few days, do you believe England can beat Spain? Statistically, no, but anything can happen and we have to enjoy it.
The England coach has chosen to have a very strong defense, but has a very weak attack, this type of strategy has worked very well because England has been lucky to play against weak teams or against teams that have some problems, for example in this case In yesterday's game against the Netherlands, England were lucky with the penalty, I say this because normally England manage to score 1 goal in games, so if there is a scenario in which they benefit from a penalty, then the chances of them scoring 1 more goal become high, but the chances of them conceding 2 goals in a game become low, if we look at the performance of England's defense in this Euro we have the following data: servia 0 - 1 england (in this game england did not concede any goals, but only scored 1 goal)Denmark 1 - 1 England (in this game England conceded 1 goal, but only scored 1 goal)England 0 - 0 Slovenia (in this game England did not concede a goal and did not score a goal)England 2 - 1 Slovakia (in this game England conceded 1 goal, but scored 2 goals)England 1 - 1 Switzerland (in this game England conceded 1 goal, but only scored 1 goal)Netherlands 1 - 2 England (in this game England conceded 1 goal, but scored 2 goals)There is a pattern that shows that England has a good defense, they may not be able to score many goals, but they have a defense that does not concede 2 goals, this is a good strategy in finals games, see that in yesterday's game England could having scored more than 2 goals, they were unlucky. I bet on England to win: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F07%2F11%2Fo9SRI.png&t=665&c=eE6d_o9UQFvktg) and I was right on my bet. this was definitely a good thing for me ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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July 11, 2024, 10:27:53 AM |
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In the end England won again. It is still a miracle they are in the tournament. Scoring goal in extra time, penalties and goal again in final minute.
Spain is much a better looking team but everything is going in favor of England so far.
On the paper it should be a win for Spain but at this point...
It was actually a miracle seeing England coming this far and now be in the final. Luck has been on their side since the beginning of this tournament but if we are to go by their performance, they suppose to have been eliminated long ago. However, I must commend their yesterday’s effort despite they conceded early goal. Not only that they played excellently, they also did a miraculous comeback as usual. Since everyone have his own wish and who to support, if not I will say that betting or give the Spain straight winning might end of losing your money, because with performance that England have currently now, I don't think they can have any challenges against Netherland, but we can't make early predict let wait and see what will happen since there main battle is Spain, we can see who can bring positive results that very day.
I don’t get your point clearly here. You mean giving Spain a straight win will result in losing money? Like Spain is not capable of winning against England? Lol! If that’s what you mean, you’re getting wrong impression about England then. I know England probably had one of their best game so far in this tournament yesterday but that doesn’t give them a higher chance against Spain unless miracle happens as it has been happening. We will continue this conversation after the final.
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