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October 02, 2023, 03:19:27 AM
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I see you have seed backup section, so are you planning to add more information, detials and prices for that category as well?
Note that there are much more seed backup products available than hardware wallets Wink

Current selection is not that great:
https://thebitcoinhole.com/seed-backup

Updated seed-backup section with more information: https://thebitcoinhole.com/seed-backup
Also added a open-source database with all the products: https://github.com/thebitcoinhole/seed-backup

I will add more products in the future, but it is a good start.

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October 12, 2023, 03:55:28 PM
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Added new Trezor Safe 3 models

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October 12, 2023, 06:26:04 PM
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Added new Trezor Safe 3 models
Almost identical dimensions like Trezor One Smiley

Are you sure that for Trezor 3 Passphrase entry is on hardware wallet, the same way like on Trezor T?
One member speculated that it remained the same like on Trezor One, that is only via computer or mobile.
I would also want to know what is the status with PIN and seed phrase entry, they are now with question mark.


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October 12, 2023, 06:33:02 PM
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Added new Trezor Safe 3 models
Almost identical dimensions like Trezor One Smiley

Are you sure that for Trezor 3 Passphrase entry is on hardware wallet, the same way like on Trezor T?
One member speculated that it remained the same like on Trezor One, that is only via computer or mobile.
I would also want to know what is the status with PIN and seed phrase entry, they are now with question mark.



Yes, I am sure. They say that on their website:

"The Trezor Safe 3 Bitcoin-only wallet is designed exclusively for safeguarding your bitcoin. Equipped with cutting-edge features like the Secure Element (EAL6+) and device-entry passphrase, it’s an impenetrable security pair."

I am trying to see if I get the missing info regarding the PIN and seedphrase entry

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October 13, 2023, 04:50:44 PM
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Added new Trezor Safe 3 models
The screen sizes appear to be wrong [it should be 0.96" (the same also applies to the Model One)].

I am trying to see if I get the missing info regarding the PIN and seedphrase entry
They mentioned in "this blog post [refer to the second paragraph in number three]" that we can enter all of the above things directly on the device itself Smiley

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October 13, 2023, 05:43:36 PM
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Added new Trezor Safe 3 models
The screen sizes appear to be wrong [it should be 0.96" (the same also applies to the Model One)].

I am trying to see if I get the missing info regarding the PIN and seedphrase entry
They mentioned in "this blog post [refer to the second paragraph in number three]" that we can enter all of the above things directly on the device itself Smiley

Thanks for that !!! Fixed.

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October 15, 2023, 08:45:57 AM
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I would also want to know what is the status with PIN and seed phrase entry, they are now with question mark.
Their medium blog post confirms that all sensitive data are now to be entered on the hardware wallet and not on the computer which is the case with the Trezor One. That goes for the seed, PIN, and the passphrase. I feel like they should have explained this better on the website where they only mention passphrase entry on the device.

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With the Trezor Safe 3, you can enter your recovery seed, pin, or passphrase directly on the device, maintaining the offline status of sensitive data.
  https://blog.trezor.io/trezor-safe-3-makes-crypto-self-custody-easier-than-ever-heres-how-7cb97198f7e9

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October 15, 2023, 05:45:58 PM
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Amazing work man, i didnt know we have so many hardware wallets in the market, you know sometimes one only knows the most renamed brands. Im gonna read that one, because i want to buy someone. And also good to see a people like you into this place, you are welcome.

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October 18, 2023, 01:53:15 PM
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I added a new section comparing 18 different Bitcoin Nodes, feature by feature: https://thebitcoinhole.com/bitcoin-nodes

Created a new topic for that: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5470796

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October 21, 2023, 07:46:20 AM
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Perhaps you can edit the price for the Seedsigner on https://thebitcoinhole.com/.
You still have it set at $80. If assembled, the Seedsigner now costs $88 in silver and $93 in all other colors. If you ship it as a kit, it costs $93 regardless of the color. It doesn't make sense to me that the assembled silver Seedsigner model is cheaper than the one you have to assemble yourself. Huh But it is what it is. If you add all the accessories to it (USB cable, MicroSD card, and QR code pack), the price goes up to $98. 

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October 21, 2023, 01:09:04 PM
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Perhaps you can edit the price for the Seedsigner on https://thebitcoinhole.com/.
You still have it set at $80. If assembled, the Seedsigner now costs $88 in silver and $93 in all other colors. If you ship it as a kit, it costs $93 regardless of the color. It doesn't make sense to me that the assembled silver Seedsigner model is cheaper than the one you have to assemble yourself. Huh But it is what it is. If you add all the accessories to it (USB cable, MicroSD card, and QR code pack), the price goes up to $98. 

I still see $80 price in their page

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I still see $80 price in their page
Are we using the same source/shop or perhaps talking about different ones? Is this the one you are using https://btc-hardware-solutions.square.site/product/orange_pill_kit/6?cs=true&cst=custom ?

It does say $80 to $98 but that's before you make any of the required selections. Select between the non-assembled and assembled unit in the first drop-down menu and the price goes up to $93. It's $88 if you select the grey device as I said previously. So, you have to ignore the initial price range you see once the page loads because no unit is selected at the time, which also doesn't make sense.

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I still see $80 price in their page
Are we using the same source/shop or perhaps talking about different ones? Is this the one you are using https://btc-hardware-solutions.square.site/product/orange_pill_kit/6?cs=true&cst=custom ?

It does say $80 to $98 but that's before you make any of the required selections. Select between the non-assembled and assembled unit in the first drop-down menu and the price goes up to $93. It's $88 if you select the grey device as I said previously. So, you have to ignore the initial price range you see once the page loads because no unit is selected at the time, which also doesn't make sense.

Yes, using the same website. If you select "Do not add QR cards",  no microsd and no usb cable, the price is 80.

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Yes, using the same website. If you select "Do not add QR cards",  no microsd and no usb cable, the price is 80.
You are absolutely right. I am getting the same price now. They did it in a very weird way, though. The moment you select between the assembled and non-assembled unit, it takes the price to $93 even before you make the other selections (QR cards, micro SD card, USB cable). And those aren't set to Yes by default. When you decide against those, it starts lowering the price and eventually reaches $80. My bad. No changes need to be done on your website.

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According to the list there is a Bitcoin-only firmware for the new Keystone 3 (Pro).
According to https://keyst.one/firmware this is not true:
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According to the list there is a Bitcoin-only firmware for the new Keystone 3 (Pro).
According to https://keyst.one/firmware this is not true:
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You are right. Fixed. Thanks for reporting that.

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November 07, 2023, 11:38:07 AM
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@maxirosson
Yesterday, Ellipal "announced" the second generation of their Titan hardware wallet [ELLIPAL Titan 2.0] and based on "this comparison page", here are the differences with the previous gen:

  • EAL 5+ Secure Element [couldn't find any information about its model]
  • 24 words seed phrase
  • Linux operating system
  • 3-minute update time [as opposed to 30 minutes]
  • Full HD IPS Display
  • $169 price tag

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here are the differences with the previous gen:
Well if Forbes is recommending it, than it must be ''good''  Tongue
I don't see any important changes, it still has closed source code, and it's much heavier than most modern smartphones.
With weight of 340g this is a real brick.

Full HD IPS Display
Totally useless feature for hardware wallet.
Nobody is going to play games or watch movies on ellipal.

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November 08, 2023, 03:00:56 PM
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Full HD IPS Display
Totally useless feature for hardware wallet.
Nobody is going to play games or watch movies on ellipal.

Agree but you know how the markets move and you need to bring always "something new" and also you need to justify the price of your product so you start to add nonsense or not utilitty things to the product.

And when  you go to massive markets some idiots start to see more the display than the security of the wallet.... Sad but true.

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November 23, 2023, 02:12:45 PM
Merited by dkbit98 (1)
 #160

- Added Ellipal Titan 2.0. The previous Titan wallet is now discountinued.
- Added new Tangem Ring
- SecuX Shield Bio is in stock, not in pre-order.
- Satochip integration on Sparrow

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