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December 03, 2022, 11:11:08 PM
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He will be slaughtered there. He is not quick anymore; he is already too old for Professional boxing. He should just stick to exhibition games where his health is utmost importance. If Manny wants to die in the ring, he should go back to professional boxing, otherwise, stick to exhibition matches. He can still earn money, be in the ring without the risk of getting countered heavy and ending up in the canvass knocked out for a few seconds. He is a legend but even legends have limits specially if you are already too old for the sports. It is not like chess that even if you are senior citizen, you can still play it. For professional boxing, 38 is too old and Manny is already 43.

If he insists to play pro, I think he is being duped by others around him who just want money from him without thinking the risk Manny will be facing in the pro ring.
His skills are old for professional fighting category because his opponent will take any chance to knockout and defend championship title, even though we want to see professional fight for his last fight but it can't happen because Manny choose exhibition fight, after fight with DK Yoo then there are some other exhibition fight to fight old boxers or other fighters of lower boxer ability.

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December 04, 2022, 08:10:38 AM
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He cant never have those pro fight considered that he had already retired.
Manny Pacquiao Retires, Saying ‘My Time as a Boxer Is Over’

Just like those retired boxers or legends then they are really just making themselves get involved with exhibition fights which is similar to this.
Fight counts arent official or cant be counted which is a usual thing.

That statement and decision from Manny Pacquiao are way back in September 2021 when around that time, he is currently aggressively active in his Presidential campaign for the 2022 Presidential Election in the Philippines and almost all his time was dedicated to it. Not enough focus on boxing led to one of the reasons why he got defeated by Yordenis Ugas in the same year.

After losing the election, Pacquiao shows interest in boxing exhibition matches starting this year. There is a series of interviews where Manny still shows interest to return to the ring and come out from retirement now that he is now more free time and is away from busy politics.

Just a few months or weeks ago if I'm not mistaken, Pacquiao said in an interview that he is interested in facing the winner of the supposed fight between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence which we all know didn't materialize. Not saying Pacquiao will come out of retirement but I'm sure he's not really decided to retire at 100% at this point.

The desire inside him in fighting with the real fighters are still intact, though as for now he consider taking his own journey with exhibition match, maybe he's checking if fans still have that interest for him, but now that he's starting to do his routine drills and he maybe feels that he can still fight and maybe he can still upset pro fighters.

We don't know if he will come back for real or he is just using it or those who are behind him to promote his upcoming exhibition fight.

Whatever the decision fans are everywhere, Pacquiao will always have a special part inside his fans heart.

The desire will always be there for a special fighter like Manny, during his prime he was a force and we are all amaze by this boxer and for sure majority of us starting to follow boxing because of the great Manny Pacquiao. But sooner or later, every great fighters has to return at least though when he retired he was healthy with no damage to him.

But we can't really tell at this point that he will comeback to fight again inside the pro ranks.

He will have to consider many factors that only he can answer.

In my opinion, he better enjoy his retirement and leave pro boxing for good.
It is fine doing some exhibition matches from time to time in order to support his causes.
At least with exhibition fights, the rules are different and his health won't suffer much.
Maybe the interest of fighting these new younger champions is still there, but he should consider the capability of his body at this age.
Or maybe he is testing his power with this exhibition fight and decide what's in it for him afterwards.


Same goes with my opinion, better to reconsider his health before taking that route, we know that he's no longer young and the body condition is not the same when he still on his prime, and adding to that, the young fighters that he might meet inside the pro-boxing rings might have that huge power punch that can accidentally risk his life.

He can go and do exhibitions to keep his adrenaline not the same rules though, but more safe than dealing with a real pro-fight.

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December 04, 2022, 11:27:58 AM
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He can go and do exhibitions to keep his adrenaline not the same rules though, but more safe than dealing with a real pro-fight.

He can make more money in a real fight but his health could also be in danger, so it's better to just go with exhibition fights and continue to make money. His popularity is his key to another success, this time in exhibition fights, and people will still surely watch his fights.

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December 04, 2022, 03:58:36 PM
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He can go and do exhibitions to keep his adrenaline not the same rules though, but more safe than dealing with a real pro-fight.

He can make more money in a real fight but his health could also be in danger, so it's better to just go with exhibition fights and continue to make money. His popularity is his key to another success, this time in exhibition fights, and people will still surely watch his fights.

exhibition fights are making a lot of money for these fighters who are on the verge of retirement, so that it has become a way for them to continue earning money doing what they like: "fighting" and in exhibition fights they don't get hurt as much as everything is agreed, well at least and what I see that everything seems to be agreed, has anyone here already bet on an exhibition fight? I never bet on any exhibition fights

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December 04, 2022, 04:08:45 PM
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I believe Manny Pacquiao has another exhibition after his fight with DK Yoo, now due to the scandal brought by Carlos Padilla,  Manny Pacquiao and Nedal Hussein are talking about a rematch via exhibition fight.[1]  I don't know if it is a strategy to make the possible exhibition fight(Pacquiao vs Hussein) intriguing by making Carlos Padilla spill out that they cheated Nedal Hussein making Manny Pacquiao win the match just to make a noise and give way to an exhibition fight.  Nevertheless, it looks like Manny's boxing schedule next year will be busy with these possible two incoming exhibition fights after DK Yoo.





[1] Manny Pacquiao, Nedal Hussein talk of exhibition fight amid Carlos Padilla, Jr. controversy


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December 04, 2022, 07:21:18 PM
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He can go and do exhibitions to keep his adrenaline not the same rules though, but more safe than dealing with a real pro-fight.

He can make more money in a real fight but his health could also be in danger, so it's better to just go with exhibition fights and continue to make money. His popularity is his key to another success, this time in exhibition fights, and people will still surely watch his fights.

Indeed, why bother taking that risk if the possibilities of making huge damages to your health is in stake, you can bring more money by doing exhibition as well, not that huge as what he's getting doing the real fight but  good enough for doing exhibition match, we can only conclude what will be his decision once he announce or his camp announce his plan

For now, exhibition will be expected from him especially if there are many challengers who wanted to take him for the sake of making
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December 04, 2022, 11:01:07 PM
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I believe Manny Pacquiao has another exhibition after his fight with DK Yoo, now due to the scandal brought by Carlos Padilla,  Manny Pacquiao and Nedal Hussein are talking about a rematch via exhibition fight.[1]  I don't know if it is a strategy to make the possible exhibition fight(Pacquiao vs Hussein) intriguing by making Carlos Padilla spill out that they cheated Nedal Hussein making Manny Pacquiao win the match just to make a noise and give way to an exhibition fight.  Nevertheless, it looks like Manny's boxing schedule next year will be busy with these possible two incoming exhibition fights after DK Yoo.


Nedal Hussein is a dirty fighter back in the day. He uses headbutts and punches after the bell. He deserves the loss he got from Pacquiao. I watched that game recently and he gave at least two punches after the bell has rung. Padilla should have penalized the actions of Nedal. Even if it was not stopped, Pacquiao was in the lead in scoring. I do not think it will be a good exhibition fight if Nedal is just gonna play dirty. At least, I want to see a good boxing match, won in skills and not because of the dirty tactics employed by one boxer, in exhibition fights.

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December 05, 2022, 02:48:29 AM
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He will be slaughtered there. He is not quick anymore; he is already too old for Professional boxing. He should just stick to exhibition games where his health is utmost importance. If Manny wants to die in the ring, he should go back to professional boxing, otherwise, stick to exhibition matches. He can still earn money, be in the ring without the risk of getting countered heavy and ending up in the canvass knocked out for a few seconds. He is a legend but even legends have limits specially if you are already too old for the sports. It is not like chess that even if you are senior citizen, you can still play it. For professional boxing, 38 is too old and Manny is already 43.

If he insists to play pro, I think he is being duped by others around him who just want money from him without thinking the risk Manny will be facing in the pro ring.
His skills are old for professional fighting category because his opponent will take any chance to knockout and defend championship title, even though we want to see professional fight for his last fight but it can't happen because Manny choose exhibition fight, after fight with DK Yoo then there are some other exhibition fight to fight old boxers or other fighters of lower boxer ability.

Well what happens is that an exhibition fight will always have things that do not give us the slightest emotion, it may be that there are some things that we like, I admire the capacity of the heart that Pacquiao has to want to help people for In the middle of that, but I think that a lion cannot stay asleep for so long, it has to go hunting and be a predator, I think that now there are many things to fight age, the abilities, even in the most advanced age, do not he can surrender and say that he is not the same as before, he has to work on his body, he cannot feel old, he is a legend, I think there is even more Pacquiao.

A very interesting fact:

Aussie boxer at the centre of cheating scandal ready to come out of retirement after 15 YEARS for a justice re-match against Manny Pacquiao



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Aussie boxer Nasser 'Skinny' Hussein has hinted at coming out of a 15-year retirement for a re-match against Manny Pacquiao after recent revelations Filipino referee Carlos Padilla cheated during their last bout in 2000. 

The WBC governing body released a sensational interview last week in which Filipino referee Carlos Padilla admitted to giving the hometown hero an 18 second count to get to his feet.

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-11494055/Nasser-Hussein-ready-come-retirement-15-YEARS-match-against-Manny-Pacquiao.html

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December 05, 2022, 04:04:54 AM
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A very interesting fact:

Aussie boxer at the centre of cheating scandal ready to come out of retirement after 15 YEARS for a justice re-match against Manny Pacquiao



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Aussie boxer Nasser 'Skinny' Hussein has hinted at coming out of a 15-year retirement for a re-match against Manny Pacquiao after recent revelations Filipino referee Carlos Padilla cheated during their last bout in 2000. 

The WBC governing body released a sensational interview last week in which Filipino referee Carlos Padilla admitted to giving the hometown hero an 18 second count to get to his feet.

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-11494055/Nasser-Hussein-ready-come-retirement-15-YEARS-match-against-Manny-Pacquiao.html


Interesting!
Though he is more likely going to lose in this fight and it's somehow unnecessary, but I don't see nothing wrong as well in reclaiming in what's supposed to be a win for him 2 decades ago.
https://youtube.com/shorts/oMoj4t4qxKA?feature=share
Here's a clip about the controversy.
Video is not mine, so all credits to the owner.
They could also use this controversy to sell this fight. I was not following this issue, but I don't know why the referee just exposed the kind of cheating. I don't think he's not aware that it could spark something that will make him pay for whatever he does before, regardless of the time passed.

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He will be slaughtered there. He is not quick anymore; he is already too old for Professional boxing. He should just stick to exhibition games where his health is utmost importance. If Manny wants to die in the ring, he should go back to professional boxing, otherwise, stick to exhibition matches. He can still earn money, be in the ring without the risk of getting countered heavy and ending up in the canvass knocked out for a few seconds. He is a legend but even legends have limits specially if you are already too old for the sports. It is not like chess that even if you are senior citizen, you can still play it. For professional boxing, 38 is too old and Manny is already 43.

If he insists to play pro, I think he is being duped by others around him who just want money from him without thinking the risk Manny will be facing in the pro ring.
His skills are old for professional fighting category because his opponent will take any chance to knockout and defend championship title, even though we want to see professional fight for his last fight but it can't happen because Manny choose exhibition fight, after fight with DK Yoo then there are some other exhibition fight to fight old boxers or other fighters of lower boxer ability.

Well what happens is that an exhibition fight will always have things that do not give us the slightest emotion, it may be that there are some things that we like, I admire the capacity of the heart that Pacquiao has to want to help people for In the middle of that, but I think that a lion cannot stay asleep for so long, it has to go hunting and be a predator, I think that now there are many things to fight age, the abilities, even in the most advanced age, do not he can surrender and say that he is not the same as before, he has to work on his body, he cannot feel old, he is a legend, I think there is even more Pacquiao.

A very interesting fact:

Aussie boxer at the centre of cheating scandal ready to come out of retirement after 15 YEARS for a justice re-match against Manny Pacquiao



Quote
Aussie boxer Nasser 'Skinny' Hussein has hinted at coming out of a 15-year retirement for a re-match against Manny Pacquiao after recent revelations Filipino referee Carlos Padilla cheated during their last bout in 2000. 

The WBC governing body released a sensational interview last week in which Filipino referee Carlos Padilla admitted to giving the hometown hero an 18 second count to get to his feet.

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-11494055/Nasser-Hussein-ready-come-retirement-15-YEARS-match-against-Manny-Pacquiao.html


That statement of referee Carlos Padilla has some intention, but I don't know what it is, if Pacman will again fight Hussein, I think things will not be different as Pacman had already become an 8th division before retirement unlike Hussein who has not achieve close to Pacman's achievement.

Let's say Hussein was cheated here, I think it's already a tie since Pacman was also cheated when he fought Jeff Horn.


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Interesting!
Though he is more likely going to lose in this fight and it's somehow unnecessary, but I don't see nothing wrong as well in reclaiming in what's supposed to be a win for him 2 decades ago.
https://youtube.com/shorts/oMoj4t4qxKA?feature=share
Here's a clip about the controversy.
Video is not mine, so all credits to the owner.
They could also use this controversy to sell this fight. I was not following this issue, but I don't know why the referee just exposed the kind of cheating. I don't think he's not aware that it could spark something that will make him pay for whatever he does before, regardless of the time passed.

His claim that he lost his opportunity to fight for a World title is not true he fought Larios for the Bantamweight title and Larios beat him decisively 10 rounds to 2 rounds if he is really a great boxer he should have won that fight here's a video of that fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1cieUhTY9I

And Pacquiao beat Larios decisively when they fought in 2006 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7_0VBf2rIQ Pacquiao is destined and is now a great fighter we should not take away anything from the guy, I saw the whole fight and Hussein is one dirty fighter, dirtier than Horn.

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That statement of referee Carlos Padilla has some intention, but I don't know what it is, if Pacman will again fight Hussein, I think things will not be different as Pacman had already become an 8th division before retirement unlike Hussein who has not achieve close to Pacman's achievement.

Let's say Hussein was cheated here, I think it's already a tie since Pacman was also cheated when he fought Jeff Horn.



If you keenly observe the knockdown, Manny is looking at the referee, waiting for the right time to  go up.  There is no chance that Manny can be count out since he is ready to stand up any time even though he is still dizzy.[1]
edit:
Also check on the timer,  Manny got up on the 8 or 9 count. He got knockdown on 2:22, possible the count start at 2:21 he got up around 2:13
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It wasn't Manny who cheated but the officiating body if there is actually cheating happens.  The cut of Nedal is too deep, reason for the fight stoppage.  Besides, I think Manny is leading on that fight since he throws and connected more punch than Hussein.



One of the reply on YT about a KD count is worth noting

Quote from: Geron Guarte
Always remember this, boxing count is not based on seconds, that is why it's called " count". Try to find in any book of boxing if  there's a "10 seconds" knockdown rule. There is no. Referees count the boxer asses if he could still fight after the KD. he can also stop the count if the opposing boxer is not standing on the neutral corner. This issue has been resolve and clarify during wilder vs fury.



[1] https://youtu.be/IdSGC2PmpZU?t=149
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Interesting!
Though he is more likely going to lose in this fight and it's somehow unnecessary, but I don't see nothing wrong as well in reclaiming in what's supposed to be a win for him 2 decades ago.
https://youtube.com/shorts/oMoj4t4qxKA?feature=share
Here's a clip about the controversy.
Video is not mine, so all credits to the owner.
They could also use this controversy to sell this fight. I was not following this issue, but I don't know why the referee just exposed the kind of cheating. I don't think he's not aware that it could spark something that will make him pay for whatever he does before, regardless of the time passed.

His claim that he lost his opportunity to fight for a World title is not true he fought Larios for the Bantamweight title and Larios beat him decisively 10 rounds to 2 rounds if he is really a great boxer he should have won that fight here's a video of that fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1cieUhTY9I

And Pacquiao beat Larios decisively when they fought in 2006 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7_0VBf2rIQ Pacquiao is destined and is now a great fighter we should not take away anything from the guy, I saw the whole fight and Hussein is one dirty fighter, dirtier than Horn.

I will choose to stay with how I idolized the man, that controversy is with the organization and the officiating bodies, the fighters are not involved on it so better to removed Pacquiao's name with these revelations, if ever that there's cheating that happens it's not Pacquiao who did it but those people behind who controlled the fight, on my take more about the involvement of huge amount of money that circulates the fight.

We know that this sport is not just for entertainment but more on the gambling side, moving forward. If an exhibition may take place, that might be a good venue for Pacquiao, knowing him when this kind of issue is being thrown on him.

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Interesting!
Though he is more likely going to lose in this fight and it's somehow unnecessary, but I don't see nothing wrong as well in reclaiming in what's supposed to be a win for him 2 decades ago.
https://youtube.com/shorts/oMoj4t4qxKA?feature=share
Here's a clip about the controversy.
Video is not mine, so all credits to the owner.
They could also use this controversy to sell this fight. I was not following this issue, but I don't know why the referee just exposed the kind of cheating. I don't think he's not aware that it could spark something that will make him pay for whatever he does before, regardless of the time passed.

His claim that he lost his opportunity to fight for a World title is not true he fought Larios for the Bantamweight title and Larios beat him decisively 10 rounds to 2 rounds if he is really a great boxer he should have won that fight here's a video of that fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1cieUhTY9I

And Pacquiao beat Larios decisively when they fought in 2006 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7_0VBf2rIQ Pacquiao is destined and is now a great fighter we should not take away anything from the guy, I saw the whole fight and Hussein is one dirty fighter, dirtier than Horn.

I will choose to stay with how I idolized the man, that controversy is with the organization and the officiating bodies, the fighters are not involved on it so better to removed Pacquiao's name with these revelations, if ever that there's cheating that happens it's not Pacquiao who did it but those people behind who controlled the fight, on my take more about the involvement of huge amount of money that circulates the fight.

We know that this sport is not just for entertainment but more on the gambling side, moving forward. If an exhibition may take place, that might be a good venue for Pacquiao, knowing him when this kind of issue is being thrown on him.

We don't know what's the point of all this after 20 years, Pacquiao's legacy will forever remain intact he earned it he worked for it
Hussein in his interview admits that he is a Pacquiao and he did not blame Pacquiao for what happened the issue is on Padilla, I don't think is a loophole in Pacquiao's greatness, Hussein just needs to forgive Padilla there are politics and cheating in boxing we just have to look on the Horn - Pacquiao match, but Pacquiao takes the fight as it is without blaming anyone.
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Well here is something to rescue, and it is that Manny Pacquiao is a very good boxer and this fight is clearly an exhibition fight, obviously it is fixed, I am not one of those who like to watch exhibition fights, but Pacquiao will be there, and that changes everything , when there are exhibition fights I don't even see them, it would be practically the first time that I go to see a fight like that, because I always like the real thing, when there is rivalry and they fight for a title or for the defense of a title, that is what moves us all and that good bets can be made, that is another thing that I like about boxing.

Also boxers who are in exhibition fights should feel calm ´because they will see it as something that will be beneficial for another person, I think this is what I like the most.

Exhibition fights are obviously for entertainment purposes + getting some money without compromising or affecting someones statistics since its not official.It would really be that obvious that there would be no

betting lines or odds for this one considering that results or outcome would really be that too obvious on whose gonna win.Some do say about being beneficial for DK since
he had an opponent which is really that popular which it would really boost up his popularity too.

Lets just enjoy on what would really be they tend to show about. Tongue

Or probably there are fans that are not going to bet on this one, and to be honest I haven't put a bet on exhibitions fight even if there are odds. As you have said, the purpose is to just entertain us so no need to put money on line as we might get nervous watching the fight, Lol.

But I have nothing against those fans who love to put some bet here, watching and then enjoying it at the same time.

Obviously though if there is a line that is open already, Manny is the outstanding favorite here.

Personally, I would not bet on this game as it's very obvious who will win, so I'm thinking what if Manny will intentionally lose this fight in his favor, so that would mean goodbye to our money. I would be alright watching this fight with some beers on the table.
For sure there would be no bookies who would be offering lines for this exhibition fight.I would rather believing that if its a co-boxer then its possible but for someone who doesnt have the experience?

It is that this can be seen as a double-edged sword, because the truth is that in a bet on this fight, the most logical thing is that Pacquiao wins, but since everything is a show, he can very well lose, which is not frowned upon, the most ´it will be for the gamblers, and this is what I like about exhibition fights, that anything can happen here, these things can be taken as high risk if you want to make very high bets, if it is for this ´I would prefer betting on fights that are legitimate, for me it is safer and I think it gives much more adrenaline to do so, than losing money or possibly losing money in an exhibition fight that is much sadder.



Interesting!
Though he is more likely going to lose in this fight and it's somehow unnecessary, but I don't see nothing wrong as well in reclaiming in what's supposed to be a win for him 2 decades ago.
https://youtube.com/shorts/oMoj4t4qxKA?feature=share
Here's a clip about the controversy.
Video is not mine, so all credits to the owner.
They could also use this controversy to sell this fight. I was not following this issue, but I don't know why the referee just exposed the kind of cheating. I don't think he's not aware that it could spark something that will make him pay for whatever he does before, regardless of the time passed.

His claim that he lost his opportunity to fight for a World title is not true he fought Larios for the Bantamweight title and Larios beat him decisively 10 rounds to 2 rounds if he is really a great boxer he should have won that fight here's a video of that fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1cieUhTY9I

And Pacquiao beat Larios decisively when they fought in 2006 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7_0VBf2rIQ Pacquiao is destined and is now a great fighter we should not take away anything from the guy, I saw the whole fight and Hussein is one dirty fighter, dirtier than Horn.

I will choose to stay with how I idolized the man, that controversy is with the organization and the officiating bodies, the fighters are not involved on it so better to removed Pacquiao's name with these revelations, if ever that there's cheating that happens it's not Pacquiao who did it but those people behind who controlled the fight, on my take more about the involvement of huge amount of money that circulates the fight.

We know that this sport is not just for entertainment but more on the gambling side, moving forward. If an exhibition may take place, that might be a good venue for Pacquiao, knowing him when this kind of issue is being thrown on him.

We don't know what's the point of all this after 20 years, Pacquiao's legacy will forever remain intact he earned it he worked for it
Hussein in his interview admits that he is a Pacquiao and he did not blame Pacquiao for what happened the issue is on Padilla, I don't think is a loophole in Pacquiao's greatness, Hussein just needs to forgive Padilla there are politics and cheating in boxing we just have to look on the Horn - Pacquiao match, but Pacquiao takes the fight as it is without blaming anyone.


Well, we all know the level that Pacquiao has in any fight, he is a very good boxer, I understand that there are many things that some verify at a technical level, and I don't blame them, I know that victories at a technical level are decisive, but Most of us here know what the Filipino is like, he is a boxer who is very transparent, we know he is a legend, he has a lot that I think he can prove, yes, I am a believer that Pacquiao still has a lot to prove and that he can continue to do so. Some say that he is very old, but I think that is not the case, the older a boxer is, the more experience and seniority he has.

Manny Pacquiao denies cheating allegations made by veteran boxing referee: “We didn’t cheat, we were just favored”



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Manny Pacquiao denies the cheating allegations made by a boxing referee who once refereed his bout 22 years ago.

Pacquaio has recently been under the microscope, with his name being somewhat tarnished in the world of boxing. Boxing referee, Carlos Padilla, took charge of a contest between Pacquaio and Nedal Hussein in 2000. Padilla revealed he extended the standing eight-count by eight seconds when Pacquaio was planted to the canvas in the fourth round.


Source: https://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/1156895171?-18341:15554:latest_news

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December 06, 2022, 05:34:50 AM
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We don't know what's the point of all this after 20 years, Pacquiao's legacy will forever remain intact he earned it he worked for it
Hussein in his interview admits that he is a Pacquiao and he did not blame Pacquiao for what happened the issue is on Padilla, I don't think is a loophole in Pacquiao's greatness, Hussein just needs to forgive Padilla there are politics and cheating in boxing we just have to look on the Horn - Pacquiao match, but Pacquiao takes the fight as it is without blaming anyone.

The eldest daughter of Carlos Padilla, stated that his father's statement were misunderstood, but I think it is not for her to interpret what his father has stated.  It is clear that Padilla stated that they cheated Hussein by making the count delay longer and by stopping the fight regardless of Hussein being able to continue or not. But looking at the video, I do not think there is any cheating that happened.  As stated on the earlier reply, there is no 10 seconds knockdown count rule.   The rule is 10 count knockdown and not 10 sec. count knockdown, it is up to the referee on how long he will count till 10.  The stoppage is already due, the cut of Hussein is too deep that it can result in a permanent damage if the fight continues.

Manny Pacquiao is right, they did not cheat, but they were favored.  besides the statement of Carlos Padilla of extending the count to 18 seconds is wrong. Check the video from Bitcoinpanther reply


edit:
Also check on the timer, He got knockdown on 2:22, possible the count start at 2:21 he got up around 2:13
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[1] https://youtu.be/IdSGC2PmpZU?t=149

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December 08, 2022, 11:53:55 AM
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With regards to the alleged cheating told by referee Padilla about helping Pacquiao to win his match against Nedal Hussein. I've watched an episode of KMJS a popular magazine show here in the Philippines. He said that he didn't feel anything about cheating there and it's not on him because he's just doing his job as a boxer. Whilst for Hussein, he's got some feeling that he's been cheated and as well as Manny. He's not blaming Manny on it but the referee himself, well, both have moved on already from that issue.

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With regards to the alleged cheating told by referee Padilla about helping Pacquiao to win his match against Nedal Hussein. I've watched an episode of KMJS a popular magazine show here in the Philippines. He said that he didn't feel anything about cheating there and it's not on him because he's just doing his job as a boxer. Whilst for Hussein, he's got some feeling that he's been cheated and as well as Manny. He's not blaming Manny on it but the referee himself, well, both have moved on already from that issue.

It will not change anything though, Manny still our favorite boxer as he brings honor to our country, as a referee who has a clean conscience, he should have expose that early. I'm just curious, after how many years, why did he expose it now? What's his intention on doing that?

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A very interesting fact:

Aussie boxer at the centre of cheating scandal ready to come out of retirement after 15 YEARS for a justice re-match against Manny Pacquiao



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Aussie boxer Nasser 'Skinny' Hussein has hinted at coming out of a 15-year retirement for a re-match against Manny Pacquiao after recent revelations Filipino referee Carlos Padilla cheated during their last bout in 2000. 

The WBC governing body released a sensational interview last week in which Filipino referee Carlos Padilla admitted to giving the hometown hero an 18 second count to get to his feet.

Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-11494055/Nasser-Hussein-ready-come-retirement-15-YEARS-match-against-Manny-Pacquiao.html


I am not surprised that Manny has that black dot in his white boxing history. It is not a secret that boxing is corrupted and has numerous background stories. This is all because of money. Where big money are, the are always high chances of something shady to happen. It is not a secret that managers "influence" fighters record to have their prospect being popular longer. if we admin that Hussein won that fight, I dont think that Manny's career would go down, but Husseins up.

In fact, in that fight Hussein did lots of dirty boxing. Maybe the ref gave Manny those extra second to make their chances even. Maybe. Who knows.

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With regards to the alleged cheating told by referee Padilla about helping Pacquiao to win his match against Nedal Hussein. I've watched an episode of KMJS a popular magazine show here in the Philippines. He said that he didn't feel anything about cheating there and it's not on him because he's just doing his job as a boxer. Whilst for Hussein, he's got some feeling that he's been cheated and as well as Manny. He's not blaming Manny on it but the referee himself, well, both have moved on already from that issue.

It will not change anything though, Manny still our favorite boxer as he brings honor to our country, as a referee who has a clean conscience, he should have expose that early. I'm just curious, after how many years, why did he expose it now? What's his intention on doing that?

Obviously, his intentions is to give a bad image to Pacquiao's figure and scathe his name by dragging his name, and reviving the issue once again after all these years. I will be not convinced even if the referee will say that he cannot be like that forever and that he has good intention as he had all the time to reveal it, why now? Also, it's quite too late if his motive is to drag Pacquiao's name on his mess.

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EUROPEAN
BETTING
PARTNER
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