Faucet and Bonus Farming

[seoincorporation]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

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[KennyR]

Here the gambling site should correct themselves than just stopping the withdrawal of the users who were able to claim bonus/faucets. This is wrong and it shouldn't be done. It is very rare to see similar incidents taking place with Casinos. These kind of errors mostly happen with Exchanges.

When a casino stops the withdrawal of an user, it should have the proper reason. These days the power of centralized system can be seen on gambling sites when a person experience big wins in a series and goes for withdrawal.

[decodx]

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

Most casinos have some form of "fair use" clause in their terms of service. This means that if a casino believes a player is abusing their platform, they reserve the right to block or suspend any accounts. These clauses are often vague, so it's hard to know exactly what constitutes as "fair use", but faucet and bonus farming are two forms of abuse that are fairly common and clearly against the rules. While there's nothing wrong with playing the casino games for free, some people will go to great lengths to get as much money out of it as possible. This can include setting up multiple accounts and using them simultaneously, or opening new accounts every time they're blocked so that they can continue farming without having to wait for a cooldown period. Casinos are aware of these tactics, so they often employ algorithms that detect suspicious activity and suspend or ban players who abuse their platform. So it's important to know what qualifies as fair use before you start using a casino's services.

[Yogee]

....if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

It would be nice if you could site an example of this user before we argue if he's really smart enough and operating within the casino rules. I've seen cases where users create different accounts so they could abuse the faucet. They cry or complain about it when they get caught by the casino's anti-fraud system.

[robelneo]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

Casinos should not punish their players if there are no violations, they are the one that puts up a faucet and bonuses that can be exploited, if the player is unaware of the violation or he is following the rules of claiming those rewards and bonuses he shouldn't be punished they should just take out these faucets and bonuses but don't touch the player's account, its the casino's fault for not testing their faucets and bonuses

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make a profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

I'll give that casino a bad rating and it will have bad feedback from the community, this is what annoys players they are being punished for actions that are not their fault but the casino system's inefficiency.

[Baofeng]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

And I think one rule of the game is not for gamblers to abuse or exploit their system like claiming tons of faucets or bonus abuse. Just like in landbase casino's, you might be smarter in the beginning, but as soon as the casino's notice something is odd, then for sure you will be flag by the pitboss.

So it goes down as to the question of morality, it is wrong to take advantage of casinos?

Maybe the answer depends on the individual itself, whether to continue abusing until they are caught or report the bugs to the casino.

[bittraffic]

You're not supposed to outsmart casinos.   Its a gray area for what users are supposed to do because these bonuses are just for promotion.

Although casinos may have faults in this situation, it's a kind of abuse when it's called Farming. It's why they are going to notice the users who do farming from faucets and bonuses because it's not normal to get a big amount from it.

[Kemarit]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

Yes, they are the one setting the rules so at any time that can also change it whatever they want, specially if they see someone or groups of people have been 'abusing' them faucet. The keyword is abuse, and so we all know what that it means it's improper so it will be dealt with.

There are no such thing as smart players, if this is the case then everyone can brought the house down. Casinos are design not to be outsmart by anyone.

[adzino]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

First thing is that all players should read the terms of services of the casino before using the casino or making any deposit.

You wanted a solution to people abusing a casino? The solution can also be found on the terms of services. I am sure it clearly states that if they farm or abuse the faucet their accounts will get blocked or the funds confiscated. So blocking is the solution for the casino. And yes, the user is in fault for not reading the terms and then breaking the terms. Just because they are allowed to claim "tons of faucet" doesn't mean they are allowed to break the rules. Don't like their rules, go play in another casino. The bonus and faucet rewards are mainly for rewarding regular players, not farmers.

[aioc]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

Why not name these two casinos so the community will be warned about claiming on their faucets and bonuses

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

If they lose money it's because of their action and negligence and those accounts that lock their accounts should file a formal complaint because they are innocent and its not their fault that the casino suffers losses

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make a profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

It's cheating they don't want to give their players what they deserve, they are the ones who created this without testing, in fact, they should thank these players because of the actions they can patch or correct their mistakes

[Warkop]

So it goes down as to the question of morality, it is wrong to take advantage of casinos?

Obviously that shouldn't be done, if their system has rules in ownership or creates multiple accounts, then obviously it will be a problem for those users...

Maybe the answer depends on the individual itself, whether to continue abusing until they are caught or report the bugs to the casino.

If the Bug problem is in the weakness of the gambling site, Abusing Bugs, it all depends on the user, whether they have malicious intentions or otherwise notify the site, in order to get rewards from the site or drain the faucet that is served on the gambling site...

Because we won't be able to guess someone's intentions in making money, what's more, the crisis that is being felt by all countries, plus inflation makes the economy decline, which allows someone to commit evil intentions...

[ethereumhunter]

Before deciding whether it's the user's fault, both parties need to be honest about the fault of each so that they can find out who is at fault in this matter.

And if the fault is from the casino, the casino should fix its code to avoid this problem and not blame the user for trying to use the bug in their casino. But users should also be able to explain to the casino that there is a bug on their site and suggest checking the code so it doesn't happen again.

But if it's not a bug but rather about how a user can profit from the casino, the casino shouldn't blame the user for the offense because the user may know how to profit from the casino.

But each of the casinos and users will surely say that they did nothing wrong and if the casino blocks the user's account, it is because the casino has the power to do so.

[Strongkored]

It shouldn't be like that, but because casinos can only detect cheating through indicators, so many odd things happen casino will considering as cheating.
If there is a way for players to be able to prove that they are honest it's good but that doesn't exist, only KYC is the only way and even this is  often not liked by players.
But it is undeniable that those who are blocked are really cheating players and for me it is natural that the funds cannot be withdrawn because it is the same as stealing money.
The smart way that players say does not really describe it as a smart way that's just to justify his cheating ways.

[Awaklara]

I'm not sure if the problem is the players who managed to claim a lot of the faucets and bonuses. if that's the case, I'm sure the casino isn't in a good reputation.

I think there is account abuse at the casino. so players can get more from the faucet and a bigger percentage get a bonus. That's what caused the account to be banned from the casino.
casinos that make faucets or bonus events, of course, have prepared a system to check how there may be fraudulent actions from players.

[TopTort777]

I've been claiming BetFury faucet (free boxes) perhaps for nearly a year. I've been participating in their FunFury competition (sort of a competition for free money). I've been claiming their wheel bonus daily. I am a total bonus hunter there. Probably a "negative" gambler, because I only collect and barely gamble or lose. So far havent been banned But I would be angry if I would. I would mark the casino as scam, because it wasnt written anywhere, that it is not allowed only to collect and not lose.

[Kakmakr]

The casinos are not blocking normal accounts that are not misusing the faucets or the bonuses... they are blocking accounts of people that are using Bots or multiple accounts to farm those faucets or bonuses.

The main goal for casinos to offer these faucets or bonuses ...are to help people that does not have money to try out their services as an introduction tool... not for people to farm it and to make free profits.  

[swogerino]

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

I think the same,if a casino offers the faucet and the gambler keeps claiming it it is not the user fault.I know one casino which I forgot the name which had the faucet and you could not claim more if you didn't finish the first amount of your claim,that was just to keep users satisfied as with the amount of faucets you can't really win something substantial.I think that the casinos should either remove the option if they see tons of abuse or optimize it to stop such abuse but in no way they have the right to steal users fund for this action.It would be better for them to bring the feature offline and let the casino run without it.

[davis196]

I've been claiming BetFury faucet (free boxes) perhaps for nearly a year. I've been participating in their FunFury competition (sort of a competition for free money). I've been claiming their wheel bonus daily. I am a total bonus hunter there. Probably a "negative" gambler, because I only collect and barely gamble or lose. So far havent been banned But I would be angry if I would. I would mark the casino as scam, because it wasnt written anywhere, that it is not allowed only to collect and not lose.

I don't think that your activities on Betfury count as bonus farming or abusing the Betfury system. You are simply using the casino faucet, which isn't against the rules. If you had 100 Betfury accounts and you were using them simultaneously, this would have been recognized as a violation of the Terms of Service of Betfury.
Bonus farming is Ok, if the gamblers are using multiple different online casinos and their bonus offers. Trying to exploit the bonus system of one casino is definitely a violation of the Terms of Service and the user must be banned.

[FatFork]

I always say that you should use your own judgement when deciding about accepting bonuses in different kind of casino sites. The final decision is yours, but I think that you will agree with me if I tell you that it is a good practice to read the terms and conditions of every deal you will be participating.

You can't expect a casino to give you a bonus without expecting anything in return. It's just like when a company gives you an incentive to buy their product, they have something to gain from it as well.  So if you think that the bonus is too good to be true then it probably is. And as we all know, there's no such thing as a free lunch.

[Solosanz]

Gamble with faucet or bonus money and then withdraw the winning amount is already not allowed for the sites, how it's possible a casino allow gambler to withdraw all of their faucet claiming without gamble it? Always remember casino isn't a charity which mean they're not giving you money for free. Gambling with faucet is no risk since you're not losing anything and contribute anything to the casino, except there's a rules if the casino allow it.

In general, faucet is just like a testnet which you're using for test the casino only.