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It's indeed very disappointing to see Crawford-Spence not pushed through when the timing is perfect, where both still in their prime, and both undefeated and very skilled fighters. I understand the frustration but surely, after dealing successfully with their respective match, the talks about the possibility of them facing each other will resume next year. It's good that both camps know the problem of why the negotiation failed and they surely will address it in their next talks. However, there's recent news that Spence might move up to 154 lbs and vacate his title. If this happened, then the unification fight between Crawford and Spence won't happen anymore unless they will meet again on the top of 154 lbs which I think there's only a slight chance of happening given their age.
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It's indeed very disappointing to see Crawford-Spence not pushed through when the timing is perfect, where both still in their prime, and both undefeated and very skilled fighters. I understand the frustration but surely, after dealing successfully with their respective match, the talks about the possibility of them facing each other will resume next year. It's good that both camps know the problem of why the negotiation failed and they surely will address it in their next talks. However, there's recent news that Spence might move up to 154 lbs and vacate his title. If this happened, then the unification fight between Crawford and Spence won't happen anymore unless they will meet again on the top of 154 lbs which I think there's only a slight chance of happening given their age. i believe the disappointment was similar when mayweather-pacquiao didn't fight when they were both at their prime. but if spence and crawford will go separate ways, then, we don't know if they will still cross paths in the future. we will see by next year if this anticipated match will still have the chance. if both are winning with their chosen opponents, and their respective promoters are seeing the demand and possible huge payout of their career, i believe, their match will still happen.
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Yes, it's clearly a duck on Crawford side, Ennis could be a good test for him, has power in both hands and rising in ranks.
I guess though he is just looking for a fight that will make him busy this year and not really to defend his belt against worthy opponents like Ennis and Ortiz Jr. Most likely the negotiations with Spence could be back next year after this fight or if Spence will go to the same route of having a get busy fight as well.
Jaron Ennis could be the worst enemy for Crawford these days because the latter haven't had any fights for almost a year now, this November marks his 1 whole year without getting a fight. Ennis is touted to be the next or much better than Terence Crawford because of his style in the ring and note that he is a knockout specialist too with a 90% KO ratio, that is why he is considered a much dangerous opponent for Bud. Ennis is making some name for himself in this division and could be avoided by either Crawford or Spence at least for this year. Ennis could be the future of this division no doubt. And if both of them go up in weight then chances are Ennis could fight for at least for one of the vacated belt. Although I'm not sure why he didn't choose to fight Vergil Ortiz Jr. because he is a much better opponent if Crawford just wanted to keep his shape and form before he fights Spence later next year.
Another good boxer, but I guess Crawford see this fight as another difficult fight for him that's why he skip Ortiz Jr as well. So he take a safe route for now and fight David just to keep his active this year. Yes, no doubt about that. Ennis already have the skillset needed to defeat these existing champions in welterweight division and he will be the first one to get the chance if both champions will climb the next division. Crawford though should avoid him for now because there's no use in defeating these boxers as it won't give him what he needed, Spence on the other hand should be able to fight them because he has more time than Crawford does.
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Yes, it's clearly a duck on Crawford side, Ennis could be a good test for him, has power in both hands and rising in ranks.
I guess though he is just looking for a fight that will make him busy this year and not really to defend his belt against worthy opponents like Ennis and Ortiz Jr. Most likely the negotiations with Spence could be back next year after this fight or if Spence will go to the same route of having a get busy fight as well.
Jaron Ennis could be the worst enemy for Crawford these days because the latter haven't had any fights for almost a year now, this November marks his 1 whole year without getting a fight. Ennis is touted to be the next or much better than Terence Crawford because of his style in the ring and note that he is a knockout specialist too with a 90% KO ratio, that is why he is considered a much dangerous opponent for Bud. Ennis is making some name for himself in this division and could be avoided by either Crawford or Spence at least for this year. Ennis could be the future of this division no doubt. And if both of them go up in weight then chances are Ennis could fight for at least for one of the vacated belt. Although I'm not sure why he didn't choose to fight Vergil Ortiz Jr. because he is a much better opponent if Crawford just wanted to keep his shape and form before he fights Spence later next year.
Another good boxer, but I guess Crawford see this fight as another difficult fight for him that's why he skip Ortiz Jr as well. So he take a safe route for now and fight David just to keep his active this year. Yes, no doubt about that. Ennis already have the skillset needed to defeat these existing champions in welterweight division and he will be the first one to get the chance if both champions will climb the next division. Crawford though should avoid him for now because there's no use in defeating these boxers as it won't give him what he needed, Spence on the other hand should be able to fight them because he has more time than Crawford does. And that might be the reason why Crawford and soon Spence will be ducking because it is rumored that he will climb in 154 lbs., also, they cannot just confront and fight Ennis in their state, not underestimating the current champions in welterweight but it's almost unarguable that Ennis have a good chance against Crawford and Spence as he is touted to be much better than Bud Crawford in his prime.
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It's indeed very disappointing to see Crawford-Spence not pushed through when the timing is perfect, where both still in their prime, and both undefeated and very skilled fighters. I understand the frustration but surely, after dealing successfully with their respective match, the talks about the possibility of them facing each other will resume next year. It's good that both camps know the problem of why the negotiation failed and they surely will address it in their next talks. However, there's recent news that Spence might move up to 154 lbs and vacate his title. If this happened, then the unification fight between Crawford and Spence won't happen anymore unless they will meet again on the top of 154 lbs which I think there's only a slight chance of happening given their age. i believe the disappointment was similar when mayweather-pacquiao didn't fight when they were both at their prime. but if spence and crawford will go separate ways, then, we don't know if they will still cross paths in the future. we will see by next year if this anticipated match will still have the chance. if both are winning with their chosen opponents, and their respective promoters are seeing the demand and possible huge payout of their career, i believe, their match will still happen. Just for the record, Crawford is not tied to any promoters or networks, so it's easy for him to make any fight including this one. And that is one reason whey we are all baffled by the fight not happening because that is one sticking point before. Is that his promoter that time, TR, doesn't want to work with Al Haymon and PBC. But that stumbling block has been removed by Crawford and yet the fight is still not happening and negotiations didn't materialized.
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Yes, it's clearly a duck on Crawford side, Ennis could be a good test for him, has power in both hands and rising in ranks.
I guess though he is just looking for a fight that will make him busy this year and not really to defend his belt against worthy opponents like Ennis and Ortiz Jr. Most likely the negotiations with Spence could be back next year after this fight or if Spence will go to the same route of having a get busy fight as well.
Jaron Ennis could be the worst enemy for Crawford these days because the latter haven't had any fights for almost a year now, this November marks his 1 whole year without getting a fight. Ennis is touted to be the next or much better than Terence Crawford because of his style in the ring and note that he is a knockout specialist too with a 90% KO ratio, that is why he is considered a much dangerous opponent for Bud. Ennis is making some name for himself in this division and could be avoided by either Crawford or Spence at least for this year. Ennis could be the future of this division no doubt. And if both of them go up in weight then chances are Ennis could fight for at least for one of the vacated belt. Although I'm not sure why he didn't choose to fight Vergil Ortiz Jr. because he is a much better opponent if Crawford just wanted to keep his shape and form before he fights Spence later next year.
Another good boxer, but I guess Crawford see this fight as another difficult fight for him that's why he skip Ortiz Jr as well. So he take a safe route for now and fight David just to keep his active this year. Yes, no doubt about that. Ennis already have the skillset needed to defeat these existing champions in welterweight division and he will be the first one to get the chance if both champions will climb the next division. Crawford though should avoid him for now because there's no use in defeating these boxers as it won't give him what he needed, Spence on the other hand should be able to fight them because he has more time than Crawford does. And that might be the reason why Crawford and soon Spence will be ducking because it is rumored that he will climb in 154 lbs., also, they cannot just confront and fight Ennis in their state, not underestimating the current champions in welterweight but it's almost unarguable that Ennis have a good chance against Crawford and Spence as he is touted to be much better than Bud Crawford in his prime. Yes, both of them seems to be covering for each other because they are so silent despite the issues surfacing since their fight was announced not to happen this year. But what I'm curious about is why Crawford chose to fight this David instead because there is Ortiz Jr. who looks a lot more weaker than Ennis. I understand why he skipped Ennis but Ortiz Jr.? A fight with him might be much better than this David who he'll face next month.
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I don't think Thurman could be the best market out of the three named boxers because people wouldn't believe that Thurman can stand a chance against Spence. We already know the history, Ugas defeated Pacquiao and Spence defeated Ugas while Thurman here was defeated by Pacquiao. Can't imagine if Pacquiao-Spence fight wasn't cancelled. That is why it's much better for Spence to pick Ennis.
But still though, as far as resume is concern Thurman > Ennis or Ortiz Jr, both is still not a PPV stars, I know that they are still unbeaten, but I don't think boxing promoters will give them the chance as early at this time to have the chance to fight for the belt, and it's going to be risky for both Crawford and Spence to fight either one of them. Again, I'm not saying that they are avoiding this two, but the risk and reward ratio and the expected returns might not be good. So in this case, Crawford goes on a easy route vs Avanesyan, and who knows, Spence will see Thurman as and easy fight as well and the reward will be high in the end. And I'm seeing that this fight will sell to the fans. Well, glad you cleared that for me mate ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Yes, I understand. It's all about money this time and it's already safe to say that they will save the best for last because the risk and reward is quite bigger. Although, from what I heard, the latest rumor about Spence is that he will fight Jermell Charlo, both PBC stars and that's actually possible, while Spence here will be just go back and forth whenever he needed to defend his title in welter.
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I don't think Thurman could be the best market out of the three named boxers because people wouldn't believe that Thurman can stand a chance against Spence. We already know the history, Ugas defeated Pacquiao and Spence defeated Ugas while Thurman here was defeated by Pacquiao. Can't imagine if Pacquiao-Spence fight wasn't cancelled. That is why it's much better for Spence to pick Ennis.
But still though, as far as resume is concern Thurman > Ennis or Ortiz Jr, both is still not a PPV stars, I know that they are still unbeaten, but I don't think boxing promoters will give them the chance as early at this time to have the chance to fight for the belt, and it's going to be risky for both Crawford and Spence to fight either one of them. Again, I'm not saying that they are avoiding this two, but the risk and reward ratio and the expected returns might not be good. So in this case, Crawford goes on a easy route vs Avanesyan, and who knows, Spence will see Thurman as and easy fight as well and the reward will be high in the end. And I'm seeing that this fight will sell to the fans. Well, glad you cleared that for me mate ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Yes, I understand. It's all about money this time and it's already safe to say that they will save the best for last because the risk and reward is quite bigger. Although, from what I heard, the latest rumor about Spence is that he will fight Jermell Charlo, both PBC stars and that's actually possible, while Spence here will be just go back and forth whenever he needed to defend his title in welter. Right mate, it's all business for this boxers now, Crawford wanted to keep his record for a while and so even if Avanesyan is a knockout artist, he is still relatively easy fight for him as compare if he faces Vergil Ortiz Jr or Ennis, risk and reward. Yeah, Spence has been targeting Charlo at 154 lbs but Jermell will have a fight with Tim Tsyzu early next year. So that will make Spence wait a bit, or maybe just like Crawford, he will have a get busy fight next against a relatively unknown by rank fighter within the PBC stable.
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It's indeed very disappointing to see Crawford-Spence not pushed through when the timing is perfect, where both still in their prime, and both undefeated and very skilled fighters. I understand the frustration but surely, after dealing successfully with their respective match, the talks about the possibility of them facing each other will resume next year. It's good that both camps know the problem of why the negotiation failed and they surely will address it in their next talks. However, there's recent news that Spence might move up to 154 lbs and vacate his title. If this happened, then the unification fight between Crawford and Spence won't happen anymore unless they will meet again on the top of 154 lbs which I think there's only a slight chance of happening given their age. i believe the disappointment was similar when mayweather-pacquiao didn't fight when they were both at their prime. but if spence and crawford will go separate ways, then, we don't know if they will still cross paths in the future. we will see by next year if this anticipated match will still have the chance. if both are winning with their chosen opponents, and their respective promoters are seeing the demand and possible huge payout of their career, i believe, their match will still happen. Just for the record, Crawford is not tied to any promoters or networks, so it's easy for him to make any fight including this one. And that is one reason whey we are all baffled by the fight not happening because that is one sticking point before. Is that his promoter that time, TR, doesn't want to work with Al Haymon and PBC. But that stumbling block has been removed by Crawford and yet the fight is still not happening and negotiations didn't materialized. Not anymore because Crawford has come out of the shadow and talked raw information regarding the unification fight cancelled, I used the term cancelled because Crawford now is taking a different route from what we're expecting, they haven't officially announced the cancellation but that's what we've got so far. So anyway, Crawford now revealed that Al Haymon is one of the big reasons why the fight didn't materialize.
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It's indeed very disappointing to see Crawford-Spence not pushed through when the timing is perfect, where both still in their prime, and both undefeated and very skilled fighters. I understand the frustration but surely, after dealing successfully with their respective match, the talks about the possibility of them facing each other will resume next year. It's good that both camps know the problem of why the negotiation failed and they surely will address it in their next talks. However, there's recent news that Spence might move up to 154 lbs and vacate his title. If this happened, then the unification fight between Crawford and Spence won't happen anymore unless they will meet again on the top of 154 lbs which I think there's only a slight chance of happening given their age. i believe the disappointment was similar when mayweather-pacquiao didn't fight when they were both at their prime. but if spence and crawford will go separate ways, then, we don't know if they will still cross paths in the future. we will see by next year if this anticipated match will still have the chance. if both are winning with their chosen opponents, and their respective promoters are seeing the demand and possible huge payout of their career, i believe, their match will still happen. Just for the record, Crawford is not tied to any promoters or networks, so it's easy for him to make any fight including this one. And that is one reason whey we are all baffled by the fight not happening because that is one sticking point before. Is that his promoter that time, TR, doesn't want to work with Al Haymon and PBC. But that stumbling block has been removed by Crawford and yet the fight is still not happening and negotiations didn't materialized. Not anymore because Crawford has come out of the shadow and talked raw information regarding the unification fight cancelled, I used the term cancelled because Crawford now is taking a different route from what we're expecting, they haven't officially announced the cancellation but that's what we've got so far. So anyway, Crawford now revealed that Al Haymon is one of the big reasons why the fight didn't materialize. Yes, Al Haymon never give him the chance to say the least and he wanted to have full control of the fight from the beginning and even threaten that they can go out and have fight for Spence for someone and still get 10 figures. Anyhow, he said that he move forward, choosen a dangerous fighter that can bang and give fight fans a good fight and at the same time, Crawford will show his skills against a puncher.
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Well Crawford at this moment cannot complain, he has achieved a fight where he can show off, also all the training that he had to give himself to fight against Spence is something that he cannot let go in vain, there has to be a fight for him to stay in the action and continue to attract Spence's attention, for me this is like a summons for Spence, however I will leave it there, so that no other type of controversy is generated, in the case of Avanesyan it is something else, this boxer can demonstrate many things, first shutting up Crawford has done so much, you can earn a lot of money di win, so here the one who has the most to lose is Crawford. Yes, it's clearly a duck on Crawford side, Ennis could be a good test for him, has power in both hands and rising in ranks.
I guess though he is just looking for a fight that will make him busy this year and not really to defend his belt against worthy opponents like Ennis and Ortiz Jr. Most likely the negotiations with Spence could be back next year after this fight or if Spence will go to the same route of having a get busy fight as well.
Jaron Ennis could be the worst enemy for Crawford these days because the latter haven't had any fights for almost a year now, this November marks his 1 whole year without getting a fight. Ennis is touted to be the next or much better than Terence Crawford because of his style in the ring and note that he is a knockout specialist too with a 90% KO ratio, that is why he is considered a much dangerous opponent for Bud. Ennis is making some name for himself in this division and could be avoided by either Crawford or Spence at least for this year. Ennis could be the future of this division no doubt. And if both of them go up in weight then chances are Ennis could fight for at least for one of the vacated belt. Although I'm not sure why he didn't choose to fight Vergil Ortiz Jr. because he is a much better opponent if Crawford just wanted to keep his shape and form before he fights Spence later next year.
Another good boxer, but I guess Crawford see this fight as another difficult fight for him that's why he skip Ortiz Jr as well. So he take a safe route for now and fight David just to keep his active this year. Yes, no doubt about that. Ennis already have the skillset needed to defeat these existing champions in welterweight division and he will be the first one to get the chance if both champions will climb the next division. Crawford though should avoid him for now because there's no use in defeating these boxers as it won't give him what he needed, Spence on the other hand should be able to fight them because he has more time than Crawford does. And that might be the reason why Crawford and soon Spence will be ducking because it is rumored that he will climb in 154 lbs., also, they cannot just confront and fight Ennis in their state, not underestimating the current champions in welterweight but it's almost unarguable that Ennis have a good chance against Crawford and Spence as he is touted to be much better than Bud Crawford in his prime. In the case of Crawford, I would fight whoever they have to fight, the idea is that if I manage to beat the most I can, it is much better, I do want to draw the attention of Spence or any other boxer who has a higher level, I have to To win many victories, it is a lie that you have to fight with opponents of a high level, with an opponent of a lower level the fight will not be exciting, obviously there will be no demand, and I do not know if the Crawford vs. Spence would have to do with high demand, that is something that It could be presented as a possible element that does not occur, of course it is mere speculation on my part, but I think Crwadord has to take advantage of every moment of the fight that comes his way. Interesting: Terence Crawford: “I Believe In Myself…Errol Spence, He Can’t Say The Same”![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPtIEAr5.png&t=665&c=fKdKHTvn6f0LaQ) “I’m about to give it to y’all raw and uncut,” Terence Crawford said on an Instagram live feed Tuesday night to explain his side of the recent negotiation drama between himself and team Errol Spence. According to Crawford, he reached out to Spence last May, which effectively got negotiations going between himself and Spence’s advisor Al Haymon. “Al’s a good dude, man,” Crawford admitted. “Al’s a charming guy. He’s a cool dude. I kind of like talking to him, but at the same time Spence is Al’s guy and I’m not.” Crawford went on to say that he and Haymon were “going back and forth over the numbers,” then some potential investors stepped in. Source: https://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/terence-crawford-i-believe-in-myself-errol-spence-he-cant-say-the-same/
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It's indeed very disappointing to see Crawford-Spence not pushed through when the timing is perfect, where both still in their prime, and both undefeated and very skilled fighters. I understand the frustration but surely, after dealing successfully with their respective match, the talks about the possibility of them facing each other will resume next year. It's good that both camps know the problem of why the negotiation failed and they surely will address it in their next talks. However, there's recent news that Spence might move up to 154 lbs and vacate his title. If this happened, then the unification fight between Crawford and Spence won't happen anymore unless they will meet again on the top of 154 lbs which I think there's only a slight chance of happening given their age. i believe the disappointment was similar when mayweather-pacquiao didn't fight when they were both at their prime. but if spence and crawford will go separate ways, then, we don't know if they will still cross paths in the future. we will see by next year if this anticipated match will still have the chance. if both are winning with their chosen opponents, and their respective promoters are seeing the demand and possible huge payout of their career, i believe, their match will still happen. Just for the record, Crawford is not tied to any promoters or networks, so it's easy for him to make any fight including this one. And that is one reason whey we are all baffled by the fight not happening because that is one sticking point before. Is that his promoter that time, TR, doesn't want to work with Al Haymon and PBC. But that stumbling block has been removed by Crawford and yet the fight is still not happening and negotiations didn't materialized. Not anymore because Crawford has come out of the shadow and talked raw information regarding the unification fight cancelled, I used the term cancelled because Crawford now is taking a different route from what we're expecting, they haven't officially announced the cancellation but that's what we've got so far. So anyway, Crawford now revealed that Al Haymon is one of the big reasons why the fight didn't materialize. Yes, Al Haymon never give him the chance to say the least and he wanted to have full control of the fight from the beginning and even threaten that they can go out and have fight for Spence for someone and still get 10 figures. Anyhow, he said that he move forward, choosen a dangerous fighter that can bang and give fight fans a good fight and at the same time, Crawford will show his skills against a puncher. Yes, he has a fight now in schedule so definitely, he is taking over he is the boss of himself and doesn't have the like of Haymon that can dictate everything and has a cut every time he fight. So people would have say that he cherry pick David her including myself, but still a good fight for him style-wise. And if Spence fight Thurman since both are with Al, then it's good as well. But what Crawford revealed seems to be going on a direction that this fight is not going to be made in the future. Specially on how he portray Al Haymon now.
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So they chooses a hard hitting fighter in David Avanesyan and so Crawford will be tested here. Nevertheless, we could see a war in the initial opening and then Crawford taking over and uses his jab to pot shop Avanesyan.
I read that David Avanesyan is a popular welterweight boxer in Europe, specifically in the United Kingdom. No way a boxer will become popular if their credentials are not good. Although Terence Crawford is considerably having a big name here, it doesn't mean that all advantages are on his side against Avanesyan. This will be a good match for Crawford and a good test fight before facing Spence in the future, if possible. Although Crawford is indeed superior, but it is true that David Ava cannot be underestimated either. Of course Ava will have her own strategy to face Crawford in this fight. I hope so too, I'm enthusiastic and confident that Crawford can get through this fight and keep moving forward. I hope that the match with Spence will actually happen, because so many are looking forward to it.
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So got the time to look for David Avanesyan fight and see how good he is, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xUFVfAW8rIThis is against Josh Kelly, and Josh was really doing good in the first couple of round even caught Davis napping and almost got a knock down. But David is one tough sob, as he keeps coming back for more and when he landed flash, it was over for Josh. However, I would say that he is just fairly basic and I think Crawford will win this fight very easy as he can break him down per round.
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So got the time to look for David Avanesyan fight and see how good he is, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xUFVfAW8rIThis is against Josh Kelly, and Josh was really doing good in the first couple of round even caught Davis napping and almost got a knock down. But David is one tough sob, as he keeps coming back for more and when he landed flash, it was over for Josh. However, I would say that he is just fairly basic and I think Crawford will win this fight very easy as he can break him down per round. You should also watch his loss against Kavaliauskas, Kavaliauskas break him down with a lot of counter punching and Kavaliauskas only need one solid punch to break his defense, Avanesyan is only good on low-level fighters but when it comes to a fighter with good counter punching he is helpless, he lacks ring generalship he just throws haymakers but opens himself to counter punch he lacks lateral movement, this is going to be an easy fight for Crawford he is so used fighting this kind of boxers, and experts in beating them.
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So got the time to look for David Avanesyan fight and see how good he is, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xUFVfAW8rIThis is against Josh Kelly, and Josh was really doing good in the first couple of round even caught Davis napping and almost got a knock down. But David is one tough sob, as he keeps coming back for more and when he landed flash, it was over for Josh. However, I would say that he is just fairly basic and I think Crawford will win this fight very easy as he can break him down per round. Aside from agility and reach are advantages in boxing along with experience, skills, and intelligence. But what's obvious is that, crawford has the reach advantage of 14cm over Avanesyan. On their stats as well, the chances of Crawford for a knockout is higher. Well actually, one boxer has most of the edge on this fight but it just happened that we don't always depend on stats alone. There are factors such as Individual's fighting spirit and eagerness in the square which might create changes once the bell rings. On my end, as a gambler, I'd bet with odds but as a fan of this sport I'd never understimate the skills of David 'coz he won't get that reputation without a reason.
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It's indeed very disappointing to see Crawford-Spence not pushed through when the timing is perfect, where both still in their prime, and both undefeated and very skilled fighters. I understand the frustration but surely, after dealing successfully with their respective match, the talks about the possibility of them facing each other will resume next year. It's good that both camps know the problem of why the negotiation failed and they surely will address it in their next talks. However, there's recent news that Spence might move up to 154 lbs and vacate his title. If this happened, then the unification fight between Crawford and Spence won't happen anymore unless they will meet again on the top of 154 lbs which I think there's only a slight chance of happening given their age. i believe the disappointment was similar when mayweather-pacquiao didn't fight when they were both at their prime. but if spence and crawford will go separate ways, then, we don't know if they will still cross paths in the future. we will see by next year if this anticipated match will still have the chance. if both are winning with their chosen opponents, and their respective promoters are seeing the demand and possible huge payout of their career, i believe, their match will still happen. Just for the record, Crawford is not tied to any promoters or networks, so it's easy for him to make any fight including this one. And that is one reason whey we are all baffled by the fight not happening because that is one sticking point before. Is that his promoter that time, TR, doesn't want to work with Al Haymon and PBC. But that stumbling block has been removed by Crawford and yet the fight is still not happening and negotiations didn't materialized. Not anymore because Crawford has come out of the shadow and talked raw information regarding the unification fight cancelled, I used the term cancelled because Crawford now is taking a different route from what we're expecting, they haven't officially announced the cancellation but that's what we've got so far. So anyway, Crawford now revealed that Al Haymon is one of the big reasons why the fight didn't materialize. Yes, Al Haymon never give him the chance to say the least and he wanted to have full control of the fight from the beginning and even threaten that they can go out and have fight for Spence for someone and still get 10 figures. Anyhow, he said that he move forward, choosen a dangerous fighter that can bang and give fight fans a good fight and at the same time, Crawford will show his skills against a puncher. Yes, he has a fight now in schedule so definitely, he is taking over he is the boss of himself and doesn't have the like of Haymon that can dictate everything and has a cut every time he fight. So people would have say that he cherry pick David her including myself, but still a good fight for him style-wise. And if Spence fight Thurman since both are with Al, then it's good as well. But what Crawford revealed seems to be going on a direction that this fight is not going to be made in the future. Specially on how he portray Al Haymon now. We can't really blame Bud for what he did, Al Haymon deserved it and had it coming because he played games to him and let him go back and forth just to make the fight happen. We all know how eager Bud is and what he sacrificed just to wait and make the fight happen, it's just that Al doesn't want it. I understand that he just want to protect Spence or whatsoever but what he did is a bit extreme. Crawford don't deserve that, Al could've talked him directly so that Bud's resources and time won't be wasted for nothing.
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November 05, 2022, 06:16:01 PM |
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So they chooses a hard hitting fighter in David Avanesyan and so Crawford will be tested here. Nevertheless, we could see a war in the initial opening and then Crawford taking over and uses his jab to pot shop Avanesyan.
I read that David Avanesyan is a popular welterweight boxer in Europe, specifically in the United Kingdom. No way a boxer will become popular if their credentials are not good. Although Terence Crawford is considerably having a big name here, it doesn't mean that all advantages are on his side against Avanesyan. This will be a good match for Crawford and a good test fight before facing Spence in the future, if possible. Although Crawford is indeed superior, but it is true that David Ava cannot be underestimated either. Of course Ava will have her own strategy to face Crawford in this fight. I hope so too, I'm enthusiastic and confident that Crawford can get through this fight and keep moving forward. I hope that the match with Spence will actually happen, because so many are looking forward to it. It's true that this David Avanesyan is not an easy opponent, and he got some impressive KO's in his record but we shouldn't forget the reason on why Crawford chose this David over the top contenders of welterweight namely Ortiz Jr. and Ennis. Crawford haven't fought any boxers since last year and he'll be going a year without any fights this coming November 20. I don't he have any intentions to have his first loss without having a chance to fight Spence for a unification fight, that said, this is just a mere tune-up fight but with a much challenging opponent.
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November 06, 2022, 10:40:32 PM |
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It's true that this David Avanesyan is not an easy opponent, and he got some impressive KO's in his record but we shouldn't forget the reason on why Crawford chose this David over the top contenders of welterweight namely Ortiz Jr. and Ennis. Crawford haven't fought any boxers since last year and he'll be going a year without any fights this coming November 20. I don't he have any intentions to have his first loss without having a chance to fight Spence for a unification fight, that said, this is just a mere tune-up fight but with a much challenging opponent.
From the looks on his record, it seems he is dangerous but he fought only two tough and popular boxers Ilgauskas whom he knockout and Josh Kelly whom he beat, other than all his opponents are unknown and not top level, we can take a cue from the recent match between Bivol and Ramirez, Zurdo has a very good record but most of his fights are coming from low-level fighters and when he fought Bivol he is busted, that's what's going to happen to Avanesyan, its not who will win but what round will Crawford take down Avanesyan.
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November 06, 2022, 11:04:22 PM |
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So they chooses a hard hitting fighter in David Avanesyan and so Crawford will be tested here. Nevertheless, we could see a war in the initial opening and then Crawford taking over and uses his jab to pot shop Avanesyan.
I read that David Avanesyan is a popular welterweight boxer in Europe, specifically in the United Kingdom. No way a boxer will become popular if their credentials are not good. Although Terence Crawford is considerably having a big name here, it doesn't mean that all advantages are on his side against Avanesyan. This will be a good match for Crawford and a good test fight before facing Spence in the future, if possible. Although Crawford is indeed superior, but it is true that David Ava cannot be underestimated either. Of course Ava will have her own strategy to face Crawford in this fight. I hope so too, I'm enthusiastic and confident that Crawford can get through this fight and keep moving forward. I hope that the match with Spence will actually happen, because so many are looking forward to it. It's true that this David Avanesyan is not an easy opponent, and he got some impressive KO's in his record but we shouldn't forget the reason on why Crawford chose this David over the top contenders of welterweight namely Ortiz Jr. and Ennis. Crawford haven't fought any boxers since last year and he'll be going a year without any fights this coming November 20. I don't he have any intentions to have his first loss without having a chance to fight Spence for a unification fight, that said, this is just a mere tune-up fight but with a much challenging opponent. And just to add to that, David Avanesyan vs Vergil Ortiz is already in works early this year, but it didn't happen. Ortiz blame Avanesyan for tanking this fight. But it seems that it was blessing for him, as he is now going to face Crawford and probably for a good and biggest paycheck of his as compare to fighting Ortiz. Yes, this could be just a tune up for Crawford this year. But in any case, they can made a fight between him and Ortiz next year. Ortiz is with Golden Boy so I guess it will be easier to negotiate as compare to some of the welterweight wherein they are in the stable of PBC.
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