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November 25, 2022, 06:08:50 AM
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This isn't fair to the man's family. I really don't know the financial background if the man's family before the winning but $30 million is a whole lot of money not to make someone lazy and if thinking your family will be lazy because of the money then that isn't reasonable enough.
I would have accepted an excuse that the money might make his family go wide not lazy because you don't expect a family who might not have had a good financial record before now and maybe struggling to make ends before the win to still work extremely hard after winning such amount of money.
$30 million when converted to my local currency is a whole lot of money and also a life and destiny changing amount of money and certainly I wouldn't have to see my family having to work so hard after such a huge winning.

 
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November 25, 2022, 06:35:58 AM
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The man's reason has a dept meaning and we can not blame him because we don't know the exact reason or meaning why he do this. There's a a lot of reason we think and some this are Maybe he will surprised his wife in the big event of their life and that's the reason why he keeps silent. Or what he do is to prevent his identity to The criminals or thief, if because when the Thief, scammers or criminals will know them for sure they have an interest with that guy.

You're right in what you said dude, it's just really surprising why he wants to keep it a secret, and only he knows. Although this is also his right. That's why he was the only one who saw if he won the lottery. Even though his identity is secret from others, it is not hidden from his family.

But of course, whatever the reason for this winner, the important thing is that he will not abandon his own family as a Father, that is the important thing that he should not forget.

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November 25, 2022, 07:07:02 AM
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I think Winner made the right decision based on his situation. Because he has a good idea about the position of his family members. Maybe he wants to hide his winning money as a big wealth for future. He says that this money can make them lazy. But in my opinion he should have informed this money with his family but if there is a crisis of independence then he is right. Information about winning a 30 million US dollar jackpot is not so easy to hide. It will be revealed.

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November 25, 2022, 07:33:29 AM
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He cares more for the winning than His family's safety  Grin

he should have said that he disguise just to keep His family secure and not to be for the sake for them not to let them become lazy in life with that millions of dollars in his pocket.

but it looks funny on how he wanted this to happen.

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November 25, 2022, 12:45:58 PM
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This isn't fair to the man's family. I really don't know the financial background if the man's family before the winning but $30 million is a whole lot of money not to make someone lazy and if thinking your family will be lazy because of the money then that isn't reasonable enough.
I would have accepted an excuse that the money might make his family go wide not lazy because you don't expect a family who might not have had a good financial record before now and maybe struggling to make ends before the win to still work extremely hard after winning such amount of money.
$30 million when converted to my local currency is a whole lot of money and also a life and destiny changing amount of money and certainly I wouldn't have to see my family having to work so hard after such a huge winning.
We may think it is unfair to the man's family, but maybe there is some truth in his thoughts. He may want to teach his family to keep trying even though they already have a lot of money and do nothing but enjoy their winnings. Hopefully, he can tell his family about his big win so they can celebrate it and change his life for good. He can also advise his family not to waste his winnings and try to prepare better for his future. The money was very much and could support the man's family well, but if not used properly, it would not give any results.

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November 25, 2022, 01:33:27 PM
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I think Winner made the right decision based on his situation. Because he has a good idea about the position of his family members. Maybe he wants to hide his winning money as a big wealth for future. He says that this money can make them lazy. But in my opinion he should have informed this money with his family but if there is a crisis of independence then he is right. Information about winning a 30 million US dollar jackpot is not so easy to hide. It will be revealed.

  - I just want to add something to what you already said, Sir, Maybe one of the reasons is that an unexpected opportunity came that caused a big problem for his family, and that's when he might say the thing that he won the lottery.

Also, what you said is true, 30M$ is not a small amount, it is a very large amount. So if you're in his situation, you'll be shocked and stunned or think hard about how you can save it and use it properly because the money you're holding has a destination, right?

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November 25, 2022, 01:53:35 PM
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Indeed, we do not know the history of his family and his entourage, perhaps there is some story that caused such an approach on the part of the winner with such a large win, I think time will pass and everything will become clear.

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November 25, 2022, 08:54:26 PM
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Idk man looked like he just used his wife and child as an excuse, and his original goal is, well, really, his privacy. The wife and child may also be part of the bigger idea but it isn't everything I guess, other family members, friends, heck even random people by the road may be a part of it. I do wonder if he's able to actually hide it for so long and where he's planning to spend it. If it was a backup investment for his children in the future then it's rather understandable why he sees no need to tell it to his family.
I understand his point of view to keep his privacy and to stay away from those people who might take advantage on his won amount. It’s his decision so we also have to respect it. But for me, I would rather want my family to know it, especially my wife and child but maybe explain to them that the money will not be used for the present but it is intended for the bright future of the child and for the emergency funds of the family. That way, they will know their limits.
When you do have lots of money and this is something that you arent get used to those numbers then it would really be creating that kind of impulsive emotion which you wouldnt care anymore on how

you would gonna spend.This is really depending on someones control and discipline towards your money and if someone a lottery winner do decide to hide himself on public then its really his choice.

We know that we do have different situation if we do talk about the behavior of our family members which there's a probability about being getting lazy if they do know
that they do have lots of money due to that lottery hit.

For me, it is fine to hide everything from other people but not from your wife. She's supposed to be her lifetime partner so she should know everything that is going on with his husband. She has the right to know about it unless the husband doesn't trust her. It will be unfair to her since they're both the foundation of the family. If the wife would find out about it, it will be offensive on her part.
Sooner or later it would really be exposed yet she isnt blind on not to notice that you have that soo much money or something that abundant considering that you do able to buy things which
you cant do it before.
So it would be raising up some question on where the hell you do get those money? Your wife is a good at calculation and if you are really just earning came from your dayjob
then it would really be creating those doubts and questions.
Sooner or later you would really be exposed and if she do finds out that you are lying or hiding something from here, then your fucked up.

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November 25, 2022, 09:06:39 PM
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He cares more for the winning than His family's safety  Grin

he should have said that he disguise just to keep His family secure and not to be for the sake for them not to let them become lazy in life with that millions of dollars in his pocket.

but it looks funny on how he wanted this to happen.

Or is it the other way around? He cares more for his family, especially the child, with that huge amount of money, the child might get overwhelmed and eventually become indeed a lazy child. We never knew how much of a disciple this father is putting to his family to make them a successful people in the future.
As long as this man was using the money to his family as his priority, I don't see anything wrong with hiding the money from them.

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November 26, 2022, 12:04:45 AM
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Or is it the other way around? He cares more for his family, especially the child, with that huge amount of money, the child might get overwhelmed and eventually become indeed a lazy child. We never knew how much of a disciple this father is putting to his family to make them a successful people in the future.
As long as this man was using the money to his family as his priority, I don't see anything wrong with hiding the money from them.
I do not think that hiding this information from his wife is a good idea, the kid does not need to know exactly how much money their parents have, as that is not something a kid should know, but this is not the case for his wife.

How can they take the best decision possible for themselves and their small family if the wife is being hidden such an important fact? Also something like this is impossible to hide for long and once she discovers this she will most likely divorce him.
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This isn't fair to the man's family. I really don't know the financial background if the man's family before the winning but $30 million is a whole lot of money not to make someone lazy and if thinking your family will be lazy because of the money then that isn't reasonable enough.
I would have accepted an excuse that the money might make his family go wide not lazy because you don't expect a family who might not have had a good financial record before now and maybe struggling to make ends before the win to still work extremely hard after winning such amount of money.
$30 million when converted to my local currency is a whole lot of money and also a life and destiny changing amount of money and certainly I wouldn't have to see my family having to work so hard after such a huge winning.

How can you say it is unfair while you have no idea about the winner's whole family? A lot of money can change people in seconds, he decided to hide it means he knows that something bad may happen if his family knows about this huge amount of money. Maybe I'll do the same as what he did but it does not mean that I wont share the money at all. Perhaps I'll create a scenario like starting a business and give it to my family to manage it so the money will be used wisely than just giving it away in form of cash.
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November 26, 2022, 07:57:26 AM
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Indeed, we do not know the history of his family and his entourage, perhaps there is some story that caused such an approach on the part of the winner with such a large win, I think time will pass and everything will become clear.
It could be what the winner thinks will happen to his family, especially if they have seen how much money the man has made.
This can lead to the desire to buy various things that his family does not really need so he thinks he doesn't need to tell them about it.
If he really could keep it a secret from his family, he could have managed his money well and prepared better for his future.
But whatever it was, he'd better think about it carefully because it's related to the fate of his family and by using the winning money wisely, he could have an even better life in the future.

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Or is it the other way around? He cares more for his family, especially the child, with that huge amount of money, the child might get overwhelmed and eventually become indeed a lazy child. We never knew how much of a disciple this father is putting to his family to make them a successful people in the future.
As long as this man was using the money to his family as his priority, I don't see anything wrong with hiding the money from them.
I do not think that hiding this information from his wife is a good idea, the kid does not need to know exactly how much money their parents have, as that is not something a kid should know, but this is not the case for his wife.

How can they take the best decision possible for themselves and their small family if the wife is being hidden such an important fact? Also something like this is impossible to hide for long and once she discovers this she will most likely divorce him.
I will marry the woman I love and trust is the main reason I love her, if I keep big things secret like having big money or winning the huge jackpot how can she believe and be willing to live life with me, so I agree with you that what this man did was a mistake, it's only natural if he hides his identity from other people but from his wife and children it's not fair and it's a clear mistake.
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I just want to add that in some countries, lottery winners are revealed in public because of transparency issues. I just don't know what specific countries are those. But as far as my knowledge on that is concerned, it's only the lottery as the gambling type that has cases of revealing winners.

Outside the lottery or other gambling types, there are no cases I  heard that winners are revealed. And if we refer to online gambling sites, that is something we can't expect even if there's no privacy data act or something regulations like that.

Lotteries require public transparency because the ticket issuers aren't incurring any risk when people purchase tickets, so it'd be easy to hand select a winner. Other types of gambling, such as playing on a betting platform, require the same transparency between the platform and the player but that transparency can be private because the only money at risk is the individual player. If the player's inclined, they can request proof that the game they're playing on isn't rigged.

Realistically, you could incorporate blockchain tech into lottery systems to make them anonymous and transparent and I've seen some online betting platforms pull this off. Haven't yet seen a country adopt a blockchain lottery system yet.
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Let's be real here if this gambler does not have a cockroach in his cupboard then why should he be insisting on restricting his family from knowing about his fame of luck, i so much believe that whenever we had a breaking news to give what comes our mind first is our family, that kind of eagerness to get home and make the breaking news, but inhis case i think things weren't going as expected with his family but i admires his privacy decision but go against it the same way since his concentration about it was his family, his kind of gambler is rare.


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November 26, 2022, 12:27:23 PM
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Or is it the other way around? He cares more for his family, especially the child, with that huge amount of money, the child might get overwhelmed and eventually become indeed a lazy child. We never knew how much of a disciple this father is putting to his family to make them a successful people in the future.
As long as this man was using the money to his family as his priority, I don't see anything wrong with hiding the money from them.
I do not think that hiding this information from his wife is a good idea, the kid does not need to know exactly how much money their parents have, as that is not something a kid should know, but this is not the case for his wife.

How can they take the best decision possible for themselves and their small family if the wife is being hidden such an important fact? Also something like this is impossible to hide for long and once she discovers this she will most likely divorce him.
I will marry the woman I love and trust is the main reason I love her, if I keep big things secret like having big money or winning the huge jackpot how can she believe and be willing to live life with me, so I agree with you that what this man did was a mistake, it's only natural if he hides his identity from other people but from his wife and children it's not fair and it's a clear mistake.

What if he has trust issues with his wife? I'm sure he has a good reason for keeping it from his wife, but all of us here (married people) really trust our wives because we marry them, and everything we get is that we inform our wives because we have no reason to hide it.

This is also my speculation as to why he hides his identity(this just came up to my mind). What are your thoughts on this?
  • He doesn't trust his wife (they have family problems)
  • Planning to have a divorce
  • or he will surprise them privately

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November 26, 2022, 12:41:11 PM
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We may think it is unfair to the man's family, but maybe there is some truth in his thoughts. He may want to teach his family to keep trying even though they already have a lot of money and do nothing but enjoy their winnings. Hopefully, he can tell his family about his big win so they can celebrate it and change his life for good.

lying is wrong, it doesn't matter if people in the family are people but, they are people who would spend all the money, they are people who could rob him or even kill him for money, he cannot lie to them, that is wrong. This is the point I disagree with his attitude. the instant he lies then he is teaching his family members to lie, if his family members won the money and didn't tell him anything? would he be happy the day he found out? this is another point. I believe this guy just doesn't like his family, he wanted to eat his money alone because he has the bad thought that he shouldn't spend his money with his family

He can also advise his family not to waste his winnings and try to prepare better for his future. The money was very much and could support the man's family well, but if not used properly, it would not give any results.

if he was an honest person he could have done that, because the money is in his bank account so how the hell would the family spend so much if he controls all the money himself? and that makes no sense and leads me to think that this guy doesn't like his family and that this was his opportunity to leave the family, he wanted the family to live badly because then they would get tired and leave, this trick has been played by many bad people and when they are discovered they always use arguments that they were hiding to protect the family because they would spend all the money, it's all a lie

Let's be real here if this gambler does not have a cockroach in his cupboard then why should he be insisting on restricting his family from knowing about his fame of luck, i so much believe that whenever we had a breaking news to give what comes our mind first is our family, that kind of eagerness to get home and make the breaking news, but inhis case i think things weren't going as expected with his family but i admires his privacy decision but go against it the same way since his concentration about it was his family, his kind of gambler is rare.

maybe the guy had another wife, this kind of behavior comes from people who have another wife and another house, that's why he didn't want everyone to know that he made a lot of money, when a person lies a lot and hides a lot, he always tries not to show up in public and always hides everything in his life, a man who loves his family and is happy would not hide anything from his family

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When he won, it will be shared by the bank on transaction . So it’s easy to know by his family. How he is saying, it was hidden to their family. Did the O.P trying to say their family was not explored to the Internet. It was very curiosity to know such things, breaking news from their country is enough to know by their wife. Because as we know all of our house wife was get into television as compared to us. So my point is it’s not possible to hide this things with their family. We are born to enjoy with our family, I had requested the O.P to spend time with family. Only the family members remember us after our death into this world. Even friends will forget us after getting a new person like us, after our death.
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I just want to add that in some countries, lottery winners are revealed in public because of transparency issues. I just don't know what specific countries are those. But as far as my knowledge on that is concerned, it's only the lottery as the gambling type that has cases of revealing winners.

Outside the lottery or other gambling types, there are no cases I  heard that winners are revealed. And if we refer to online gambling sites, that is something we can't expect even if there's no privacy data act or something regulations like that.

Lotteries require public transparency because the ticket issuers aren't incurring any risk when people purchase tickets, so it'd be easy to hand select a winner. Other types of gambling, such as playing on a betting platform, require the same transparency between the platform and the player but that transparency can be private because the only money at risk is the individual player. If the player's inclined, they can request proof that the game they're playing on isn't rigged.

Realistically, you could incorporate blockchain tech into lottery systems to make them anonymous and transparent and I've seen some online betting platforms pull this off. Haven't yet seen a country adopt a blockchain lottery system yet.

It's not yet utilized in lottery outlets to use blockchain technology because it's not widely adopted just yet by companies. The need for it to be used in lottery system isn't much needed which perhaps is the reason why there's little to none lottery company using it yet. Their system still works for them well in drawing the combination for winners and storing the data in their database.

Regarding transparency, transparency is much needed in this kind of gamble because a huge amount of money is involved. One must not be tainted in order to maintain their reputation and credibility. If they will expose the name of the winner, the real name, and not an alias without the person's consent, they will most likely suffer a case in the court. Agreement is really a must in order to have a hassle-free process.

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This isn't fair to the man's family. I really don't know the financial background if the man's family before the winning but $30 million is a whole lot of money not to make someone lazy and if thinking your family will be lazy because of the money then that isn't reasonable enough.
I would have accepted an excuse that the money might make his family go wide not lazy because you don't expect a family who might not have had a good financial record before now and maybe struggling to make ends before the win to still work extremely hard after winning such amount of money.
$30 million when converted to my local currency is a whole lot of money and also a life and destiny changing amount of money and certainly I wouldn't have to see my family having to work so hard after such a huge winning.

In essence, we do not know for sure what is behind the decision and the reasons for keeping it a secret from his family. maybe that's not the real reason, maybe he really doesn't want to be exposed just to keep his identity secret from the public.
yes, we never know what is the real reason behind the luck he got from the lottery. $30 million is a lot of money, even you and I could buy real estate houses and luxury cars.

if what he said were true, he was worried that the money would make them lazy. quite rational reasons, considering we do not know the condition of their families.but what is clear, we cannot blame the man's decision. and we don't know any exact reasons behind all of his statements. that is why he chose to keep his identity secret so that the public would not know the identity of the $30 lottery winner. however, what makes it unique. the lottery platform did not mind when the man wore a costume to keep his identity secret.

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