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November 26, 2022, 11:38:43 AM
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There were online apps but I think E-Sabong is banned by President Duterte. If there are still online sabong operating, they are illegal right now.

Sabong or cock fights are a multi-million industry. From breeding, feeds, multivitamins, vaccines, and gambling. I think casinos can adopt the e-sabong has in the Philippines. It cannot be done here in the Philippines because it is already banned but maybe in other countries.

I have experience of going to the stadium to watch cock fights and it is very exciting. Especially, when it is our chickens that are fighting. The intensity of the people around you when the cocks are released and already fighting is inexplicable. It is very exciting, and I do not think that can be captured in the casino. It is just different when you experience it live.

  -  President Du30 indeed banned E-Sabong, so it's surprising how many Sabong can be downloaded from the play store on our cellphones. It's even being advertised on Facebook and I've even seen it appearing on YouTube ads, meaning it seems to be operating legally under the current administration in the Philippines.

But as you said, there are still many people who are addicted to this gambling game of Sabong, even if we say it is illegal, there are still many people who make and operate it, especially among those who participate, there are many.

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November 26, 2022, 12:12:46 PM
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This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?
That is not suppose to be fun but yeah we don't have same perspective so I wouldn't get in the way for that. I use to see these kind of fights even in my younger days and it's still can be seen these days and fairly legal but right now only in the weekends. I think I can't watch other animals that fight to death other than these cocks that was traditional in my area.
The government supports this legal cock fighting in our country and I see that the government is also benefiting from this. It was a widespread gamble, offline and online are also available which means that bettors or gamblers are consistently growing as well. Might in the other country this is not acceptable but for us, in our country - I think this could never be stopped anymore. In fact, many rich people are already involve and putting huge amount of money in this, it considered as their business.

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November 26, 2022, 12:13:27 PM
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This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

It may be cruel but here in our country cocks are not considered pets but livestock that is why the owner of the winning cock cab get the losing and death cock and bring it home to cook and eat, its so popular here in our country that the government money is making money from regulating these cock fighting.

They even arena and a big stadium exclusively for cock fighting because there is big money, like horse raising there is a lot to consider when betting on these cock fighting, like breeding the handlers and the way the cock moves minutes before the fight, it's still a game of luck but if you are an expert on what and how to look you can tell what cock will win.


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November 26, 2022, 12:15:58 PM
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This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

It all looks very outdated. At least for me, who has never experienced such events in real life. Maybe in countries where it is a tradition it will remain relevant but in other countries it will definitely not become popular (and legal) as it is cruel entertainment. And to be honest, it’s hard for me to imagine a modern young person who has a smartphone, internet, etc. who will go to watch the rams bumping their foreheads.
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November 26, 2022, 12:17:25 PM
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But come to think of it, what is the difference between boxing and cockfighting? They are almost the same because they both involve living thing with flesh and blood. We have heard news of boxers or even wrestlers dying in the ring. Do you think all violent sports should be stopped?

the difference is simple:

boxing = it's two people who think, it's two people who decided on their own to fight, nobody forced them to fight, they alone decided to fight, it's a job that receives salary and has rules to avoid deaths.

Cock fight = rooster is an edible animal, people raise roosters to eat and even when they kill the animal to eat you have to kill him in a way that doesn't cause him suffering, so if you already kill the animal to eat, what's the point to put the animal to fight and suffer against its will? how could that be considered a good thing? honestly people need to have limits, there are boxing fights, MMA and so many sports they can bet on, why do you have to take animals to make them fight and bet on their fight? I can not understand it

and yet people still ask if this can added in Online casino...

I hope that in Curacao they don't support this kind of stuff either because if they don't support this kind of stuff then the casinos that are licensed by Curacao won't add this kind of cruelty either, we don't need to mistreat animals like that in my country It is a crime to do this kind of thing and there is no such thing, mistreating animals is something that should be condemned and criticized. I have seen certain people in my country taking the dog and putting it at home, but then they don't feed it regularly, don't bathe it regularly, don't give it water regularly and don't put the dog in a clean environment. So I ask myself: why do these people take a dog and put it at home when they know they don't have the mental and financial conditions to take care of the dog? when a person doesn't have feelings for animals then they won't have feelings for living people, they'll just pretend they like people, when deep down they don't have feelings

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November 26, 2022, 01:11:03 PM
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It is very legal in my country and in other countries as well. We even have designated cockfighting arenas for this kind of event in my country. Bets and prize pools range from thousands of dollars to millions because many rich people in my country including our politicians are into cockfighting as well.

I am not fond of this so-called sport. But I have real experiences since I have friends and even relatives that own roosters. Cockfighting is different OP. Our roosters are armed with very sharp blades capable of killing even humans (many died already). The first time I experienced betting on cockfighting was during the pandemic but it was only held in my friend's backyard. I've never seen an actual event held from a cockpit arena.

Personally, I prefer governments stop cockfighting. It isn't a sport because the losing cock has an 80% chance of being killed in action. I consider this an abuse of animals. We kill animals for food but we try to make it quick as possible.

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November 26, 2022, 01:22:26 PM
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I hope that in Curacao they don't support this kind of stuff either because if they don't support this kind of stuff then the casinos that are licensed by Curacao won't add this kind of cruelty either, we don't need to mistreat animals like that in my country It is a crime to do this kind of thing and there is no such thing, mistreating animals is something that should be condemned and criticized. I have seen certain people in my country taking the dog and putting it at home, but then they don't feed it regularly, don't bathe it regularly, don't give it water regularly and don't put the dog in a clean environment. So I ask myself: why do these people take a dog and put it at home when they know they don't have the mental and financial conditions to take care of the dog? when a person doesn't have feelings for animals then they won't have feelings for living people, they'll just pretend they like people, when deep down they don't have feelings

Cockfighting is very popular here in our country and I have a lot of friends who are very much into this, they do this out of passion and for them to make money, you will surprise how they spend money just to get their cocks to fit in a fight, I just notice that some of the cock owners are dog lovers or cat lover but they don't treat cocks as a pet they treat it as livestock that is ready for consumption, so when they go to the cockpit arena and lose, they are not sorry for the cock they are sorry for the money they loss
because you can eat chicken every day and you are fine with it but you can not eat dog every day and be fine with it.
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November 26, 2022, 01:39:12 PM
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It's awful when in plain XXI Century people still support animal fights. It is even more despicable having someone making money from that. Cock fight is just like a dog fight, it is f%$7&in&/%$/%&$ horrendous. I apologize to tell you but, people who favour this sort of activity should be behind bars for life.
I personally despize people who support animal abuse. I mean, what is wrong with people!? We already enslave animals on industrialized farms. Every day thousands of animals die so that we can eat. Isn't that enough?

Now, animal fights only exist due to the people who place bets, so if you are one of those, I strongly encourage you to refrain from doing so. We have come to a phase in our Human development, where we do not need that sort of savagery anymore. It is not just wars... How the hell are we supposed to build a better world for our children when things like this are not banned?
Agreed, you're right about how horrendous these kinds of activities are especially since times have already changed and this should be avoided as much as possible however these activities are part of the culture of these countries which makes it hard to stop. I'm from a country where cock fighting is too common where you may see it in any place you visit and unfortunately, it some people are against it, they can't stop it as it is already a part of our culture, and it is a common activity on most festivals on provincial part of my country.

Also, this can be said for other animal activities in other countries such as Bull Riding and Horse Race where animals are used to compete with each other or subjected to a stressful environment which are also common cultural activities in those countries.


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Cock fight is very similar one to the boxing, the only difference is using of cock instead of human being. It was the traditional one used by our ancestors. Cock which had Olsen was killed and used for the dinner. But this was different in human being. They will do the revenge outside the game. Because they will feel bad and try to take revenge against the winning person. With this boxers will get bulk some amounts as the payment in each fight. If the boxer further involved in the gambling, they will earn double or triple of their salary. With that money, they can start the business and settle in different way apart from the fighting. Because he can’t fight till his death.
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This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before.
In some areas I've watched cockfights and rams gambling, even mole cricket gambling, yes fun but sometimes I sad they are in cattle just to fight. I think his type of game can only be enjoyed on live, if the gambler at home and not present I think there is no fun feeling. But to be honest I don't like this type animals gambling, there are no challenge with high odds.

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It's awful when in plain XXI Century people still support animal fights. It is even more despicable having someone making money from that. Cock fight is just like a dog fight, it is f%$7&in&/%$/%&$ horrendous. I apologize to tell you but, people who favour this sort of activity should be behind bars for life.
I personally despize people who support animal abuse. I mean, what is wrong with people!? We already enslave animals on industrialized farms. Every day thousands of animals die so that we can eat. Isn't that enough?

Now, animal fights only exist due to the people who place bets, so if you are one of those, I strongly encourage you to refrain from doing so. We have come to a phase in our Human development, where we do not need that sort of savagery anymore. It is not just wars... How the hell are we supposed to build a better world for our children when things like this are not banned?

Sad to say but it's a culture. There are always certain things that you find it inhumane in your own culture, but not for the others. I live in a country where it has a wide influence, but I didn't, even once support this kind of activities as I also find this disgusting and it's clearly a form of animal cruelty. But then again, this was a culture passed into many generations in this country and that's obviously the reason why the law enforcement can do nothing about it that even the authorities is issuing a permit for this kind of activity to operate legally.

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It's awful when in plain XXI Century people still support animal fights. It is even more despicable having someone making money from that. Cock fight is just like a dog fight, it is f%$7&in&/%$/%&$ horrendous. I apologize to tell you but, people who favour this sort of activity should be behind bars for life.
I personally despize people who support animal abuse. I mean, what is wrong with people!? We already enslave animals on industrialized farms. Every day thousands of animals die so that we can eat. Isn't that enough?

Now, animal fights only exist due to the people who place bets, so if you are one of those, I strongly encourage you to refrain from doing so. We have come to a phase in our Human development, where we do not need that sort of savagery anymore. It is not just wars... How the hell are we supposed to build a better world for our children when things like this are not banned?
Agreed, you're right about how horrendous these kinds of activities are especially since times have already changed and this should be avoided as much as possible however these activities are part of the culture of these countries which makes it hard to stop. I'm from a country where cock fighting is too common where you may see it in any place you visit and unfortunately, it some people are against it, they can't stop it as it is already a part of our culture, and it is a common activity on most festivals on provincial part of my country.

Also, this can be said for other animal activities in other countries such as Bull Riding and Horse Race where animals are used to compete with each other or subjected to a stressful environment which are also common cultural activities in those countries.

Except rosters fight all the time even if they are not matched by people. When you put 2 cocks in one square meter, chances is that they will fight to death. There is no protest against this kind of gambling. This is a culture for countries in Asia. Besides rosters/chickens is not an endaganred species. Unlike dogfights, the Animal welfare society will be rallying for justice for these pets.

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November 26, 2022, 02:45:45 PM
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Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit

This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?

Even I have heard this game being played in my country as well. Although I am not sure if it is still being played but I have seen it movies.
People form a circle within which two cocks will be fighting and players would bet on the cocks.


I hope that in Curacao they don't support this kind of stuff either because if they don't support this kind of stuff then the casinos that are licensed by Curacao won't add this kind of cruelty either, we don't need to mistreat animals like that in my country It is a crime to do this kind of thing and there is no such thing, mistreating animals is something that should be condemned and criticized. I have seen certain people in my country taking the dog and putting it at home, but then they don't feed it regularly, don't bathe it regularly, don't give it water regularly and don't put the dog in a clean environment. So I ask myself: why do these people take a dog and put it at home when they know they don't have the mental and financial conditions to take care of the dog? when a person doesn't have feelings for animals then they won't have feelings for living people, they'll just pretend they like people, when deep down they don't have feelings

Even I feel the same but then whats your thought when people actually eat them.
I mean there are so many people who eat chicken. Aren't they responsible for their murders ?
I am not taking any sides but when we think about animal cruelty in gambling we should also think about animal slaughtering for food.

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This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before.
In some areas I've watched cockfights and rams gambling, even mole cricket gambling, yes fun but sometimes I sad they are in cattle just to fight. I think his type of game can only be enjoyed on live, if the gambler at home and not present I think there is no fun feeling. But to be honest I don't like this type animals gambling, there are no challenges with high odds.

A cockfight is a normal gambling game in our country. It's legal but the event creator needs to get a government permit before running the game. It's awful and heartbreaking to see animals being used in gambling but if it's already a part of the culture, we'll only see it as a normal thing. It's sad to see how animals suffer for the satisfaction of men but we can't do anything about it.
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This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?
Cock fighting is popular here in the Philippines. My father even have 3 roosters that he is taking care of when he was still young. Sometimes, I will be the one buying their chicken feeds and I will also be the one to feed them. That was also the first time I saw how they take "care" of them.
The word "care" should be emphasized because they are exaggerating it.
From the right food, the right place (should be soil), vitamins to make them agile and stronger, and the training where they put like boxing gloves in the feet of a rooster. It's a good blood sport but also time-consuming and one fight could make you lose all your money. It's like training a boxer.

It can be in a casino but only like a PPV, live betting before the game starts. The actual fight will be in another place.

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I think everybody here is already aware of what cockfighting is and probably has some experience with it, whether it's with the following
  • Computer games
  • Actual observation of cockfighting
  • Online gambling through video

That's how they are participating in this day and age. I think a lot of people have lost a lot of money and had to be banned to prevent those who cannot control their gambling intentions. Lol.

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I have Cock fight in my country too, and I feel are too violent... I mean, putting a knife on the animal's foot and watching how they kill each other is not my favorite way to win a bet. And I think that's the main reason for the banning of this activity in some countries.

I like other ways to betting where no one has to die at the end of the match. But if it's part of the culture there is no other option than respect it.

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November 26, 2022, 03:39:28 PM
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Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins.

Cock fighting is animal cruelty. Not only it, every form of animal fight set up by man for the pleasure of gambling or not is animal cruelty and should be condemned. It is like setting up toddlers or teenagers to fight so you can catch some fun or make money from their pain.

In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.

It is a common practice in Nigeria, among the Yoruba Muslims. Am not sure the Hausa Muslims do that. Another sad thing here is that Muslims condemn gambling just like Christians too but why engage animals for sacrifice in gambling? It is pretence of hiding to do what you condemn openly.

You will feel it is fun because you are not the one in the fight. Imagine being forced by a superior authority to fight another against your will. How will you feel? Will it also be fun?
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November 26, 2022, 03:42:32 PM
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It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting  


This is not funny to be proud to make helpless animal to kill themselves. This act is barbaric thing to keep doing this age of time. This kind of suicide should be a crime. I have hear of some adverts on the television announcing against the killing of animals in the bush that soon the world won't have animals to inhabiting the bush and this part of the reason for game reserve and other protection for animal kingdom, so why kill them by ourselves. We don't have to making animal go through pain.


and some rams will lose their horns.


And be rejected because blood left out of the body or incomplete, so why we do this ? And you bring to dr. Paul. Not good to do against animal.

We needing more animal doctors to take care of them to avoiding extinction.

Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit


A whole of selfish reason for the fighting. Condemn it not good .
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November 26, 2022, 04:13:16 PM
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I grow up in a society where there is nothing like cock fighting gambling exist. What we typically observe is two local cocks squabbling over territory or which cock will rule the hens in a particular area (which is a normal thing where fowls are).

I hate the sight of cockfights, so betting on them is not in my nature. Who will benefit from watching two cocks fight to the death, I wonder. It is incredibly depressing that some people enjoy watching animals fight to the death.

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