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Well, for me animal fighting is not fun and should not be use as tool for gambling. But if it's not prohibited by the Government, these people won't stop using animal, because as you've said it's fun for those who are engaging themselves in this kind of activity. Anyway, in our country, cock fighting is quite popular especially here in our place. Many men elders are taking care of rooster as business (they sell it when ready) or use it for fighting for their own satisfaction. We have an arena where cock fighting is held, it's legal. Recently they even had a promotion called "fastest kill" and the prize is $600 plus a brand new motorcycle.
I it happens only in my country. But it turns out that many other countries have the same customs. In my area there are also cockfighting enthusiasts. But I don't know for sure if they gambled or just to raise the price of their chicken because they managed to win. In addition there is indeed a merchant who owns a farm near me. DIa offers the chicken a lot on various social media. The chickens he sells also have the criteria of good chickens that are commonly used for fighting. If this had become a habit, it would seem that it would be difficult to cross this habit.
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November 27, 2022, 10:47:47 PM |
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This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?
Cockfighting is a popular and common gambling game here in our country. It's one of the oldest gambling here. Actually, I'm just a few kilometers away from a famous cockfighting arena here where every day is a busy day there. It's legal here in our country but of course, should be legally registered too. During the pandemic, when almost all arenas are closed for operations, cockfighting was shifted into online gambling, and matches are done thru Livestream. It became a big hit here that even a non-gambler shows interest in betting on this game. Unfortunately, lots of worst-related cases happened and it become serious as hell. It leads the government to ban online cockfighting in the whole country and up to this point, still considered illegal.
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November 27, 2022, 11:00:59 PM |
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This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?
Cockfighting is a popular and common gambling game here in our country. It's one of the oldest gambling here. Actually, I'm just a few kilometers away from a famous cockfighting arena here where every day is a busy day there. It's legal here in our country but of course, should be legally registered too. During the pandemic, when almost all arenas are closed for operations, cockfighting was shifted into online gambling, and matches are done thru Livestream. It became a big hit here that even a non-gambler shows interest in betting on this game. Unfortunately, lots of worst-related cases happened and it become serious as hell. It leads the government to ban online cockfighting in the whole country and up to this point, still considered illegal. There is news that it will soon obviously some powerful gambling personalities are lobbying for its re-opening these people made billions of income and they are now spending millions of money to bribe corrupt officials, the only hindrance is the people who are still missing until these people remain missing there are obstacles for their re-opening. When a gambling industry has the backing of corrupt politicians because of gambling lord's spending on their election bids expect a strong lobbying position, the human rights people in that country should do everything that online cockfighting will not reopen as it will continue to be a source of corruption.
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November 27, 2022, 11:34:39 PM |
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When a gambling industry has the backing of corrupt politicians because of gambling lord's spending on their election bids expect a strong lobbying position, the human rights people in that country should do everything that online cockfighting will not reopen as it will continue to be a source of corruption.
Regardless, even if these gambling lords you are referring to will bribed a certain official, the revenue of the whole operation won't be that impressive since most people will think that online cockfighting is illegal. Therefore, people won't risk participating in that gambling until the ban will be lifted. I think online cockfighting will be soon allowed again as long as there's clear progress on those unsolved issues and cases related to online cockfighting. If these gambling lords really want to get back into their operation of online cockfighting, they should help with the investigation for the ban to be lifted as bribing the corrupt officials won't really a big help.
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November 27, 2022, 11:56:10 PM |
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We are in the 21st century and there are so many legitimate ways to make money, even in gambling, there are several games around to make money from, why do we still have to abuse animals all in the name of making money? You can't apply and forces that view of yours on other countries as it's hard to abolish something like classical gambling that is already part of the culture of a certain country. Others might don't like cockfighting because of animal cruelty but didn't you know that all cocks here are being spent wit lots of money just to become healthy on the day of their match. Take it or leave it. We have to respect those countries that still patronize that kind of game.
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November 28, 2022, 12:23:31 AM |
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We are in the 21st century and there are so many legitimate ways to make money, even in gambling, there are several games around to make money from, why do we still have to abuse animals all in the name of making money? You can't apply and forces that view of yours on other countries as it's hard to abolish something like classical gambling that is already part of the culture of a certain country. Others might don't like cockfighting because of animal cruelty but didn't you know that all cocks here are being spent wit lots of money just to become healthy on the day of their match. Take it or leave it. We have to respect those countries that still patronize that kind of game. An old tradition which also been legalized from some places in a small third world country, it's hard to remove that old culture where the enjoyment has been part of this kind of gambling. I understand the point about animal cruelty but for those who are engaged in this culture they only understand what they've believed. It's tough for them to change as they will continue to participate and keep betting on this kind of gambling.
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November 28, 2022, 08:14:49 AM |
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it's actually easy if you don't want any animals to die or be killed in gambling as the OP wrote in the thread that is it possible that it will be added in the casino I think it looks like you can that is using a kind of NFT collection of chickens with various versions and qualities of the chickens themselves so that they can fight each other with chicken NFT owners from other users ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Good idea, indeed my country there are still some people who do gambling with fighting chickens. But I'm not sure they'll switch to this model. The reason is that they don't understand technologies like NFTs. Need introduction or socialization. They prefer cash to be received directly without intermediaries. Maybe for gamblers who are tech-savvy it would be a good solution. But for traditional people, it seems that they don't want to know and learn. if indeed the casino adds games like that then you have to use a method like that, but if you want to use real animals of course the casino can directly prepare a room for fighting animals then everyone is ready to bet Live, but it's difficult to make this game happen also in the casino even though there is maybe my idea can be implemented to be honest, I'm not too interested if this kind of gambling exists in casinos and it doesn't seem like there's much demand for it
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November 28, 2022, 09:47:31 AM |
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It's awful when in plain XXI Century people still support animal fights. It is even more despicable having someone making money from that. Cock fight is just like a dog fight, it is f%$7&in&/%$/%&$ horrendous. I apologize to tell you but, people who favour this sort of activity should be behind bars for life. I personally despize people who support animal abuse. I mean, what is wrong with people!? We already enslave animals on industrialized farms. Every day thousands of animals die so that we can eat. Isn't that enough?
Now, animal fights only exist due to the people who place bets, so if you are one of those, I strongly encourage you to refrain from doing so. We have come to a phase in our Human development, where we do not need that sort of savagery anymore. It is not just wars... How the hell are we supposed to build a better world for our children when things like this are not banned?
Animal right or protection only exists in the developed world. Most developing nations don't have sympathy or compassion for animals. Animals are treated as if they don't feel pains or have feeling. I find it very strange that a footballer was criticized and even fined for kicking his cat. While in my locality people starve and even beat their animals with wipe. I feel terribly sorry for animals in my country that I had to adopt a dog that was starving to death out of compassion. But come to think of it, what is the difference between boxing and cockfighting? They are almost the same because they both involve living thing with flesh and blood. We have heard news of boxers or even wrestlers dying in the ring. Do you think all violent sports should be stopped? There are different organizations all over the world dedicated for animal welfare. In some countries, animal welfare isn't much prioritized because of lack of funds and compassion of the people for the animals. This mainly is rooted to the government negligence on other aspects of life and country that has to be looked upon due to their incompetence and greediness. While it is true that in underdeveloped country animals aren't usually taken care of, it doesn't necessarily mean that you could be heartless. Because afterall, we are still in-charge of how we will act and how we will empathize with others even if it isn't fellow human. Regarding the difference between cockfighting and boxing, there's a really a huge gap between them. They clearly isn't the same even if fighting is involved in both. In boxing, a human is conscious and can give consent on the bout. Humans can decide for themselves. The fight will only commence with their permission of participation in it. However, with cockfighting, animals are being subjected into fight without their consent because they can't even give one to begin with. They are just adhering with what's told of them. They don't want to fight on their own will, but are only forced to fight for the sake of bet that their owner or handler can get after the fight. It isn't the same with boxing wherein a boxer can back out if he wanted to.
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November 28, 2022, 10:14:25 AM |
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~ This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?
I respect other cultures, and I think it's none of my business what they are doing in their countries with their animals, but I personally would not be staying among people watching animals fights because this scene isn't something I'd like to watch. I hope such game, I mean, betting on live animals, will not be presented in any casino I'm playing in.
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November 28, 2022, 10:40:41 AM |
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When a gambling industry has the backing of corrupt politicians because of gambling lord's spending on their election bids expect a strong lobbying position, the human rights people in that country should do everything that online cockfighting will not reopen as it will continue to be a source of corruption.
Regardless, even if these gambling lords you are referring to will bribed a certain official, the revenue of the whole operation won't be that impressive since most people will think that online cockfighting is illegal. Therefore, people won't risk participating in that gambling until the ban will be lifted. I think online cockfighting will be soon allowed again as long as there's clear progress on those unsolved issues and cases related to online cockfighting. If these gambling lords really want to get back into their operation of online cockfighting, they should help with the investigation for the ban to be lifted as bribing the corrupt officials won't really a big help. And there's a stain now after they announced it was an illegal industry. Many of our countrymen lost a lot of money on that online "sabong" as they call it. I didn't know it was banned, I thought the trend just calmed down but they are still doing it in the shadow or, there's just not much hype about it. The physical cock fighting industry though will continue. In fact, there's been a lot of equipment working near our place too and I heard it will be a cock fighting pit on the blueprint. I don't know if it will be good for our city considering how huge the gambling taxes are but I worry about kids growing up near it.
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November 28, 2022, 01:27:45 PM |
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This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?
That is not suppose to be fun but yeah we don't have same perspective so I wouldn't get in the way for that. I use to see these kind of fights even in my younger days and it's still can be seen these days and fairly legal but right now only in the weekends. I think I can't watch other animals that fight to death other than these cocks that was traditional in my area. Everything is not supposed to be fun if we are talking about letting these animals fight with each other because in the first place, they aren't existing in this Earth to be like that but for the sake of tradition purposes and everything, we should just learn to accept the fact that it will be hard if we will go against it. It will take us decades and decades before we can even take some huge leap regarding this exhibition fights. Especially if you're born to an Asian country, it's likely that these kinds of fights will be introduced to you at an early age. Anyway, if these kinds of fights will be listed in casinos, then for sure there will be a lot of bettors who will test their luck on this kind of fight. Yeah, they don't deserve this kind of treatment just because they are animals and can't be heard what they actually feels. I am in support to end these kind of traditions worldwide but to fully embrace that they aren't born to be fighter or some sort will really take years to fully educate us. I have doubts that it will be listed in a casino though. And about my stand about this culture and tradition, I'll be just neutral about it and choose not to meddle with it because as I said, even if they aren't supposed to be treated like that, we're somehow too late to stop it because this has been going on for centuries and it's already normal especially if you're from Asia.
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November 28, 2022, 01:29:27 PM |
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Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia You're right this type of game is what has been evoke since the early days in gambling when there have not been any digital technology with gambling during that era, not only cock but gamblers also make use of other animals like rams to gamble in those days, this were best enjoyed on an open field with a numbers of spectators to witness the fight and also cast their bet, cock fight is as interesting and same way entertaining and gamblers still practice this type of gamblings till present days all over the world but common in the remote regions under rural settings. Many audiences enjoy cockfighting and using other animals because it is the entertainment they rarely find on the field or in public. The local government may allow the show as long as no one knows that they are betting because it can make ordinary people curious and finally participate in the bet. And yes, cockfighting is still practiced in rural areas, especially in Asia, because people are still used to betting on cocks or something there. But hopefully, in the future, the government will take action to make its citizens aware not to use animals to bet.
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November 28, 2022, 03:27:36 PM |
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Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia You're right this type of game is what has been evoke since the early days in gambling when there have not been any digital technology with gambling during that era, not only cock but gamblers also make use of other animals like rams to gamble in those days, this were best enjoyed on an open field with a numbers of spectators to witness the fight and also cast their bet, cock fight is as interesting and same way entertaining and gamblers still practice this type of gamblings till present days all over the world but common in the remote regions under rural settings. That's understandable that cock fighting is an ancient game that was popular in a time when there was no internet and no such digital technology but the problem is why this sport is still popular in the current era in some areas? There should be a complete ban on this sport and there should be extreme punishment for those who get caught playing this sport. When there will be no cock fighting, there will be no betting on it.
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November 28, 2022, 04:25:49 PM |
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An old tradition which also been legalized from some places in a small third world country, it's hard to remove that old culture where the enjoyment has been part of this kind of gambling.
I understand the point about animal cruelty but for those who are engaged in this culture they only understand what they've believed. It's tough for them to change as they will continue to participate and keep betting on this kind of gambling.
It seems to me that there is no need to prohibit such entertainments and to ensure that they die out by force. Culture is inevitably changing (and it has been happening at a rapid pace in recent decades) so these forms of entertainment will naturally become a thing of the past. As far as I know, bullfighting was banned in Spain after, in fact, public interest in it had fallen sharply. When cockfighting becomes not part of the culture but a marginalized entertainment, then it will be relevant to completely ban it.
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November 28, 2022, 04:39:25 PM |
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Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia You're right this type of game is what has been evoke since the early days in gambling when there have not been any digital technology with gambling during that era, not only cock but gamblers also make use of other animals like rams to gamble in those days, this were best enjoyed on an open field with a numbers of spectators to witness the fight and also cast their bet, cock fight is as interesting and same way entertaining and gamblers still practice this type of gamblings till present days all over the world but common in the remote regions under rural settings. That's understandable that cock fighting is an ancient game that was popular in a time when there was no internet and no such digital technology but the problem is why this sport is still popular in the current era in some areas? There should be a complete ban on this sport and there should be extreme punishment for those who get caught playing this sport. When there will be no cock fighting, there will be no betting on it. Unfortunately, that's only the reason why it's hard to completely ban cock fighting since it has already become a norm or a culture since it has been played for a long time. Also, there are some provincial areas in these Asian countries which have limited access to technology and the internet, and cock fighting is very commonly played in those areas. Other reasons also included are that cocks, or chickens are normally being killed for human consumption unlike other animals like dogs which are kept as a pet and not for food. Still, I understand that this should be stopped and banned completely as these animals feel pain and should undergo these circumstances before getting killed.
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November 28, 2022, 06:30:51 PM |
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Well, for me animal fighting is not fun and should not be use as tool for gambling. But if it's not prohibited by the Government, these people won't stop using animal, because as you've said it's fun for those who are engaging themselves in this kind of activity. Anyway, in our country, cock fighting is quite popular especially here in our place. Many men elders are taking care of rooster as business (they sell it when ready) or use it for fighting for their own satisfaction. We have an arena where cock fighting is held, it's legal. Recently they even had a promotion called "fastest kill" and the prize is $600 plus a brand new motorcycle.
I it happens only in my country. But it turns out that many other countries have the same customs. In my area there are also cockfighting enthusiasts. But I don't know for sure if they gambled or just to raise the price of their chicken because they managed to win. In addition there is indeed a merchant who owns a farm near me. DIa offers the chicken a lot on various social media. The chickens he sells also have the criteria of good chickens that are commonly used for fighting. If this had become a habit, it would seem that it would be difficult to cross this habit. @AakZaki, we are very familiar with cockfighting. in almost all provinces in our country, cockfighting gambling must exist even though it has become illegal. even if you know, in Bali. Cockfighting is not a gamble, but a religious ritual. Cockfighting in Bali is a sincere sacrifice for the Bhata Khala. and how the prices of fighting cocks are very high. There are other types of gambling, I'm sure you are also familiar. the dog fights with the wild boar, how the wild boar will be beaten by several dogs as a fighting opponent. just like a match in the ring, one wild boar fights with 2-3 dogs at a time, until someone becomes a victim. this gambling is also very familiar in our country, isn't it, as entertainment for the village community. However, in this era. betting involving fighting animals is no longer relevant and has become an illegal activity. culture and traditions like this, must be abandoned. now we have casinos that are more relevant as entertainment, without having to sacrifice those animals that actually have the right to live freely.
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November 28, 2022, 06:47:43 PM |
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Cock fighting is a kind of gamble that bet is placed on the two cocks whereby if cock A wins all cock A supporters wins. It is a legalize gamble in some part of Asia
In the westside of my country during sallah, the Muslims buy rams for celebration, if the ram is bought before the day it will be slaughtered, one of the youth in the family will secretly take this ram out to the field were other Muslim people are with their rams for gambling.
It use to be fun when you see this ram nodding themselves to the extent that some rams might even die at the process of fighting and some rams will lose their horns. Money is been made at this period because so many gamblers will go there to stake on a ram in other to make profit
This kind of gambling is always fun because these animals fights in the circle of human, have you been involved in this kind of animal gambling or have you watched such game before. Can such game be in the casino?
Well I haven't been involved in such gambling before although I have seen lots of movies where people do stake a bet on two cock to fight and then the winner goes with the cash. Well I don't know if it's going to possible because as most people has said already violation of animals is considered illegal stuff in some countries and it can lead to arrest of such people involved in it.
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November 28, 2022, 07:12:45 PM |
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Well, for me animal fighting is not fun and should not be use as tool for gambling. But if it's not prohibited by the Government, these people won't stop using animal, because as you've said it's fun for those who are engaging themselves in this kind of activity. Anyway, in our country, cock fighting is quite popular especially here in our place. Many men elders are taking care of rooster as business (they sell it when ready) or use it for fighting for their own satisfaction. We have an arena where cock fighting is held, it's legal. Recently they even had a promotion called "fastest kill" and the prize is $600 plus a brand new motorcycle.
I it happens only in my country. But it turns out that many other countries have the same customs. In my area there are also cockfighting enthusiasts. But I don't know for sure if they gambled or just to raise the price of their chicken because they managed to win. In addition there is indeed a merchant who owns a farm near me. DIa offers the chicken a lot on various social media. The chickens he sells also have the criteria of good chickens that are commonly used for fighting. If this had become a habit, it would seem that it would be difficult to cross this habit. @AakZaki, we are very familiar with cockfighting. in almost all provinces in our country, cockfighting gambling must exist even though it has become illegal. even if you know, in Bali. Cockfighting is not a gamble, but a religious ritual. Cockfighting in Bali is a sincere sacrifice for the Bhata Khala. and how the prices of fighting cocks are very high. Cockfighting is also one of the ancient gambling game in my country. Though they are not performed as a religious ritual, many people are so fond of watching these two fowl fight to the death. Maybe it is part of human nature to watch animals fighting each other since I have seen several gambling games involving two male of the same specie fighting each other to death or whoever dominates the fight win like horse fighting where two stallions are forced into a scenario of fighting to mate since a mare is also presented Here is a sample video on how the two stallion fight each other to get the right to mate with the mare[1]. There is also this gamble that involves insects and reptiles. Like Spider fighting like this one[2] seen on youtube. This might be less brutal because the spider has a chance to run away but still, sometimes spiders are killed in this gambling activity. There are other types of gambling, I'm sure you are also familiar. the dog fights with the wild boar, how the wild boar will be beaten by several dogs as a fighting opponent. just like a match in the ring, one wild boar fights with 2-3 dogs at a time, until someone becomes a victim. this gambling is also very familiar in our country, isn't it, as entertainment for the village community. This kind of gambling game is too brutal. It involves a bloody battle between animals. It is fine it is a course of nature but pitting 3 dogs against 1 boar in a close cage is. That gives no chance to a wild boar because it is against 3 dogs and no way to run. I believe this kind of gambling has been banned from several countries because of its brutality. However, in this era. betting involving fighting animals is no longer relevant and has become an illegal activity. culture and traditions like this, must be abandoned. now we have casinos that are more relevant as entertainment, without having to sacrifice those animals that actually have the right to live freely.
I greatly agree animal lovers find this act brutal and any perpetrator should be punished by law. Imagine, putting our place in the wild boars situation where we are put in a close cage against 3 lions? I bet we cannot find excitement and entertainment in that scenario.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6uvuy2g9Yw[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dokf_VvEShk
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November 28, 2022, 07:17:28 PM |
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If such a game is viewed for passion then it gets some acceptability but when such game is organized for gambling it loses its acceptability completely. Not just cockfighting. In my opinion, none of the animal in the world should be encouraged by gambling to play such a combative game. Moreover, I do not believe that there is any precedent in any religion to accept such a thing. If someone is regularly immersed in such activities then it is everyone's responsibility to bring him back.
Be it passion or simply for profits alone, it will always be very unlikely to see animals fighting each other for man’s satisfaction. We can always chose to gamble with money by using other means but not using animals as tools. Maybe the reason why most of the countries banned cockfighting, and only in Asian countries that the gamblers are more passionate about it. It’s okay for a horse race as it’s also kind of gambling, but I don’t see it reasonable for cockfighting.
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November 28, 2022, 07:33:03 PM |
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Be it passion or simply for profits alone, it will always be very unlikely to see animals fighting each other for man’s satisfaction. We can always chose to gamble with money by using other means but not using animals as tools. Maybe the reason why most of the countries banned cockfighting, and only in Asian countries that the gamblers are more passionate about it. It’s okay for a horse race as it’s also kind of gambling, but I don’t see it reasonable for cockfighting.
As long as it was properly regulated, I don't see why should there be a concern referring to animal cruelty. There is a lot of violence related to animals globally that needed to be prioritized and addressed that's why it's not a big deal for me to call for an abolishment of cockfighting as a whole as long as it is legal in that country and all standard proceedings are strictly followed. For a country where cockfighting is treated as legal gambling, we should respect that country's view about that.
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