Cock fight game

[Sithara007]

maybe some people like cockfighting or goat fighting for money without seeing how sorry they are in fighting and sometimes to death.
To be honest, my family used to gamble on cockfights, but I didn't have the slightest interest when I saw the animals fighting like they were in pain and very sad. i would rather gamble in a casino or sports betting than have to pit innocent animals against each other.

and I don't think that would happen if cockfighting or sheepfighting got into the casino platforms.

Well... in some places, it is a part of local traditions. Where I live, during old days we used to have rooster fights. However nowadays everyone seems to have forgotten about it. Even in other states within India, there are similar traditions. Some of the states have bull-fight as their premier cultural symbol, while some have goat fights. Obviously there is a lot of friction between the traditionalists and the animal rights activists, with sometimes things getting physical. For my part, I believe that local traditions should be viewed as an exception and allowed to continue.

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[BobK71]

maybe some people like cockfighting or goat fighting for money without seeing how sorry they are in fighting and sometimes to death.
To be honest, my family used to gamble on cockfights, but I didn't have the slightest interest when I saw the animals fighting like they were in pain and very sad. i would rather gamble in a casino or sports betting than have to pit innocent animals against each other.

and I don't think that would happen if cockfighting or sheepfighting got into the casino platforms.

Well... in some places, it is a part of local traditions. Where I live, during old days we used to have rooster fights. However nowadays everyone seems to have forgotten about it. Even in other states within India, there are similar traditions. Some of the states have bull-fight as their premier cultural symbol, while some have goat fights. Obviously there is a lot of friction between the traditionalists and the animal rights activists, with sometimes things getting physical. For my part, I believe that local traditions should be viewed as an exception and allowed to continue.

If it is a traditional matter it can be observed and acceptable. But when it is considered a game of gambling outside the tradition, there is a different view. Moreover, if it is observed as a tradition, it can be conduct on any specific day of the year or according to the authority. Which can happen once in any particular place by announcing whole village but if people spread the influence of gambling and can be organized again and again which is considered injustice to animals.

[madnessteat]

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I absolutely agree with you, because I think animal fighting is unacceptable. This kind of entertainment has been considered normal in some countries for a long time, but animals don't have to die for entertainment. Nowadays, people can build good fighting robots suitable for this kind of entertainment and bet on them. Why this is still not being done is a big question.

This is one of the most overrated gambling games in our country and sometimes insects like spiders are no exception to them as long as they can play and bet on it. I think this kind of game is not really necessary because how can someone be happy seeing the animal hurt or most of the time get killed?

Animal cruelty should not be in any kind of industry unless they are slaughtered for food to be consumed.

But for the people who find it a money-making machine, they don't mind hosting an event where these cruelties happened all the time.

I don't even go to the circus if animals perform there, but I gladly attend circus performances in which only humans participate - acrobats, tightrope walkers, clowns, etc. as I believe that animals should not be exploited by humans for entertainment.

 If your authorities really wanted to eradicate this kind of entertainment, they would impose severe penalties not only for organizing fights, but also for participating in the betting on these fights.

I think that a few big arrests and a few months in prison would be enough to discourage the organizers from engaging in this kind of fighting.

[goldkingcoiner]

But the biggest reason is probably that its hard to make a skill-based game into something luck based.

Cockfighting is more of a luck-based game though your bird has a high chance of winning if it is well-trained but in the end luck should be on your side most of the time to win.

Is it though? 

One rooster is not the same as another rooster. If anything that is what I imagine to be one of the most exciting parts of the game? To bet on a better rooster? Thats why in real life cockfighting the strong roosters are very prized. If you wish to emulate that experience and offer it as a game on a gambling platform, then you cannot make the digital version luck based. Otherwise it just becomes a simple dice game but with animated roosters...

Not that I am an expert in cockfighting. Far from it, actually.

I also think luck is a huge factor in this game.  Since cockfighting is modified by equipping blades on the legs of the rooster,  other rooster are not comfortable wearing it so as a result there are some incidents of self-afflicted damage that can result in the death of a roster.  This sometimes happen when the dominant rooster shuffle the almost beaten opponent that is lying on the ground.  The dominant rooster often hit its neck that can result to insta-death of the rooster.

Another case of luck case is the fighting strategy of a cock.  Since most owners are not aware of how the cock fight, there is a chance that their rooster fight style is countered by the opposing rooster's fight style.  There are lots of cases that luck can apply on the cockfigting game.  One that I experienced was that the blade was wrongly equipped on our rooster making it not deal damage even though it should be a clear hit.

Yes, if it is not a luck-based game then what is it? I think it's clear that it's classified as a luck-based game because even if your rooster came from a strong breed that previously won different tournaments, its chances may somehow increase but its vulnerability is the same as the game is based on who will survive last or who will inflict the most stab from that blade they're equipped.

Also, if it is not a luck based game, how would a casino integrate it into their online games? They would need to either buy a game built based on an algorithmic way to ensure that nobody can cheat by figuring out the algorithm. So I imagine that they need to introduce chaos into the system itself before it can be called "luck-based" And if they do not, then they implement a game which can be beaten with skill, and obviously any AI that is able to figure out the game itself will render the casino penniless, seeing as the client side would win everytime just by cheating his "skill"...

In real life, every cock is different. You cannot really emulate that each individual skill.

[Fatunad]

For me personally this type of Cock fighting bet is not that challenging. Even though some of my friends really like being around the Cock fighting arena and placing bets on one of the cocks, I just watch it without making any bets there.
I prefer betting in casinos and it is more challenging for me, self involved play is more fulfilling for me than placing bets on Cock fighting.

Im on this situation too on which i had tested out on going into a cockfighting arena and going along with my friends.While they do make out some bets then i dont really have the feels or liking to
make out bets basing on this kind of gambling where everybody around is really that shouting and being impulsive on placing up their bets.I dont really see the interest in me when
tending to bet up on these animal fight type of gambling.I dont see for it to be interesting or entertaining which it do boggles up on why other people are really that
dying on making a bet even on the smallest amount as possible and even some do bet up millions which is totally absurd.

[rahmad2nd]

maybe some people like cockfighting or goat fighting for money without seeing how sorry they are in fighting and sometimes to death.
To be honest, my family used to gamble on cockfights, but I didn't have the slightest interest when I saw the animals fighting like they were in pain and very sad. i would rather gamble in a casino or sports betting than have to pit innocent animals against each other.

and I don't think that would happen if cockfighting or sheepfighting got into the casino platforms.

Well... in some places, it is a part of local traditions. Where I live, during old days we used to have rooster fights. However nowadays everyone seems to have forgotten about it. Even in other states within India, there are similar traditions. Some of the states have bull-fight as their premier cultural symbol, while some have goat fights. Obviously there is a lot of friction between the traditionalists and the animal rights activists, with sometimes things getting physical. For my part, I believe that local traditions should be viewed as an exception and allowed to continue.

In one of the provinces in my country, cockfighting is part of the traditional ceremony.
Tajen, that's how the Balinese call it. cockfighting tradition there, usually only held on certain days. Cockfighting in one area of ​​my country is related to sincere holy sacrifices for Bhuta Kala. so this tradition has nothing to do with gambling, this tradition has been around since ancient times. however, in other regions or areas of the province. cockfighting, being part of the traditional gambling tradition.

Now, everything has been banned and become illegal except in one area that I mentioned above. Cockfighting gambling activities have been banned, anyone caught will be subject to criminal sanctions. after all, in this era of advanced technology. there are many more fun entertainment options, there are online casinos with a variety of betting games in them. why adopt a tradition and culture that only tortures animals, which actually the animals have the right to live freely.

[Distinctin]

It's very common in our country and there are even online casinos that are focused only on this type of match. I'm not into it but there's been a big issue about it because that owner of roosters that are cheating, they're releasing in the cockpit a weak rooster, and then they'll bet on the opponent's side. There are a lot of those people involved that have been kidnapped and until now, no one knows about their whereabouts.

I bet you are from an Asian country as I have heard issues about it too. I should say I am not into cockfighting too because maybe that’s not my type of the game. And if ask if it should be given to play in casinos, I think it would hardly happen because it’s now starting to be banned because of some associated negative feedbacks about it. And to think that it’s way more beyond from protecting our animals, definitely it should never be encouraged to become seen in casinos.

[bisdak40]

Seriously, what's the fun about cock fight game? it's animal abuse and that's not fun at all.

It's sad to see a cock that doesn't did anything wrong being forced to fight with each other until of them them sick or dead, while the owner will just looking for new cock again. I think any countries has a law about animals, if you see someone do this game, you can report it to police and they will arrest this dirty people.

I guess their motive is money. Maybe if you want to know directly you can ask them. Just watch them bet on their chickens. Then if their chickens win of course The price of their chickens will go up, they can earn more money.
My country banned cockfighting, even the police have arrested some of those activities. But it doesn't stop either, it seems that it is already a disease that is difficult to get rid of. Or maybe they've even bribed the police into keeping quiet.

One thing to note to those who did not know, when two cocks meet in the wild they will fight to the death, that is their instinct and they are not forced to fight each other. Some even said that it is a form of cruelty if you don't allow cocks to fight, funny but there's some truth to it if you see/know the characteristics of these birds.

This kind of activity is existing in out country for centuries ago that I don't think would stop immediately because of some people protesting for the welfare of those birds because like i said before, this industry generates billions of pesos and many families rely on this industry, they will starve if stopped abruptly.

Police and politician are also involve in this industry so this makes this thing even harder to stop. Manny Pacquiao, a champion boxer turned politician used to have a gamefowl farm which was too big that a company of goons have to guard it hehe.


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[Sandra_hakeem]

No!!! I haven't been involved or seen physically how these ordeal is conducted but I know for sure that I have seen a couple of times ; how it's done and I always keep wondering how those animals are made to fight themselves...lol
It's a cool game though but you are not gonna really have that in the outskirts of some metropolitan cities and towns, like you have casinos and it's look like some sort of local bar-betting games. When I watch the seriousness on the faces of those bettors and, how those animals would strain every bit of strength they've got, just to liverage their bettors -- it's almost a WONDER in my little world. I've really watched scorpion fight though.

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[Lanatsa]

It's very common in our country and there are even online casinos that are focused only on this type of match. I'm not into it but there's been a big issue about it because that owner of roosters that are cheating, they're releasing in the cockpit a weak rooster, and then they'll bet on the opponent's side. There are a lot of those people involved that have been kidnapped and until now, no one knows about their whereabouts.

I bet you are from an Asian country as I have heard issues about it too. I should say I am not into cockfighting too because maybe that’s not my type of the game. And if ask if it should be given to play in casinos, I think it would hardly happen because it’s now starting to be banned because of some associated negative feedbacks about it. And to think that it’s way more beyond from protecting our animals, definitely it should never be encouraged to become seen in casinos.

Each countries does have their own taking when it comes to animal cruelty or safety as we do all know but as part of culture then there are places whom do really make these things as traditional stuff which it

might be looked so cruel on some people but there are ones who could tolerate and get used to it for the sake of entertainment.Some might be that entertained and some might not.

So if you do see this stuff to be that too dangerous or not ethical then its your choice to make whether you would be betting on it or not.
Just like the rest been saying that this is rampant in most Asian countries.

[Hispo]

Exactly, they're taking revenge on those people and they presume that they're scammers that make them lose money. Those people that have been reported were never found and even the government had already stepped on it and did an investigation but it did nothing.

Man, that is insane. The government can't even stop neither the scammers nor the kidnappers?
Here people cannot try to scam people like that, they would not last a week (and they know it), very disgusting and unfair. At least, here most of the times people get "fair" fights.

Yup, that's the sad reality. It seems that there's a bigger authority that's behind all of those kidnappings. They can stop the operations but about the kidnappings, it's left as a mystery who's behind related to this issue.

The deeper I dive into this thread about cockfighting the more I convince myself it should be banned in my country and leave animals out of betting. Perhaps, with the exception of horse races. 

It's a brutal sport for the animals, one has to die or be injured a lot, unlike the racing.

So you are implying there must be some people in positions of power behind those kidnappings, like governors or mayors of a city. Politicians?
Don't you mind to share what country are you from?

It sounds like a bit of a dangerous place to live.

Also, how often do those fights are organized? Because here, it is usually on weekends.

[danherbias07]

For me personally this type of Cock fighting bet is not that challenging. Even though some of my friends really like being around the Cock fighting arena and placing bets on one of the cocks, I just watch it without making any bets there.
I prefer betting in casinos and it is more challenging for me, self involved play is more fulfilling for me than placing bets on Cock fighting.

It becomes more challenging when you are the owner of the rooster that will be fighting. Months of taking care of it, training, and giving it vitamins to be stronger and make you money.
I heard stories just a week ago from my neighbors that it's different when you are inside the cock fighting pit. When you are winning, it's getting more difficult to just run away and take the profits, you will keep on betting until the end of the whole session. If there are 10-20 fights, expect that you will be there for half of it or maybe the whole time.
Way different than online cock fight betting.

[Reatim]

Police and politician are also involve in this industry so this makes this thing even harder to stop. Manny Pacquiao, a champion boxer turned politician used to have a gamefowl farm which was too big that a company of goons have to guard it hehe.

this is true that the involvement of Big fishes and politicians makes this gambling famous and untouchable for many years , though we are talking about crypto adoption here yet this may be transform in any time soon.
because like in our government that the online Cock fight had been closed but still there are plenty of operators that runs this and completely operating still .

[Kakmakr]

I thought all forms of gambling are prohibited in the Muslim religion? In any way... I have watched some Cock fighting in real life, not in a gambling setting.. but on a farm and it is not something that I would bet on. 

The Cock fighting sport remains legal in Puerto Rico and in such countries as the Philippines and the Dominican Republic, where cockfighting clubs operate around the country.

The Animal Anti-Cruelty organizations will object to any kind of gambling that are done, where animals are harmed or killed for Sports betting. There are more than enough Sport to gamble on, without having to harm animals ....so let's keep it that way. 

[ethereumhunter]

Police and politician are also involve in this industry so this makes this thing even harder to stop. Manny Pacquiao, a champion boxer turned politician used to have a gamefowl farm which was too big that a company of goons have to guard it hehe.

this is true that the involvement of Big fishes and politicians makes this gambling famous and untouchable for many years , though we are talking about crypto adoption here yet this may be transform in any time soon.
because like in our government that the online Cock fight had been closed but still there are plenty of operators that runs this and completely operating still .

That's because they also play in a place unknown to the authorities so that they can play freely and have a relationship with the authorities. That's what allows cockfighting to survive in various places and provides a big advantage for the owner of the gambling establishment. And even though online cockfighting has shut down, other online casinos can still host online cockfighting and gamblers will know where to look. So it will take time to find and investigate where it is so that the authorities can immediately arrest it.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Yeah, I could still remember these....
The memories back then, when I'd visit remote areas in the rural communities, where they've got a cheif and a council of elders(and that's like a system of government in there....I believe that decisions are made based on the standing sovereignty).
After some menial entertainments, they sat me out, in a shed -- where some kids gathered around me at first,(Maybe they thought I'm also a mother like their mom? So they kept staring in confusion or, rather surprise), then the atmosphere was right and it was time for their night play -- it' started and they displayed a whole lot of cultural performances and lastly, it was the Scorpion fight.....(they did that as a means of entertainment though, nobody placed a bet on 'em)

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[Peanutswar]

Seriously, what's the fun about cock fight game? it's animal abuse and that's not fun at all.

It's sad to see a cock that doesn't did anything wrong being forced to fight with each other until of them them sick or dead, while the owner will just looking for new cock again. I think any countries has a law about animals, if you see someone do this game, you can report it to police and they will arrest this dirty people.

I guess their motive is money. Maybe if you want to know directly you can ask them. Just watch them bet on their chickens. Then if their chickens win of course The price of their chickens will go up, they can earn more money.
My country banned cockfighting, even the police have arrested some of those activities. But it doesn't stop either, it seems that it is already a disease that is difficult to get rid of. Or maybe they've even bribed the police into keeping quiet.

One thing to note to those who did not know, when two cocks meet in the wild they will fight to the death, that is their instinct and they are not forced to fight each other. Some even said that it is a form of cruelty if you don't allow cocks to fight, funny but there's some truth to it if you see/know the characteristics of these birds.

This kind of activity is existing in out country for centuries ago that I don't think would stop immediately because of some people protesting for the welfare of those birds because like i said before, this industry generates billions of pesos and many families rely on this industry, they will starve if stopped abruptly.

Police and politician are also involve in this industry so this makes this thing even harder to stop. Manny Pacquiao, a champion boxer turned politician used to have a gamefowl farm which was too big that a company of goons have to guard it hehe.

Here in the Philippines there are a lot of big names involved with this kind of game because its all about not the cock fight only its also to gather connections with different parties which is good for politics and investment with their assets, even big names make a huge amount of bet with this game, also there's some hidden transactions happen like the recent news of the cockfighting there's a lot of people go because they lose a single game, but this is another topic. Also having this game is permitted and regulated that's why only illegal gambling of cockfight is prohibited and only the one who cater or support only have the protection.

[stadus]

It's very common in our country and there are even online casinos that are focused only on this type of match. I'm not into it but there's been a big issue about it because that owner of roosters that are cheating, they're releasing in the cockpit a weak rooster, and then they'll bet on the opponent's side. There are a lot of those people involved that have been kidnapped and until now, no one knows about their whereabouts.

I bet you are from an Asian country as I have heard issues about it too. I should say I am not into cockfighting too because maybe that’s not my type of the game. And if ask if it should be given to play in casinos, I think it would hardly happen because it’s now starting to be banned because of some associated negative feedbacks about it. And to think that it’s way more beyond from protecting our animals, definitely it should never be encouraged to become seen in casinos.

Even regular people will know that issue, it is quite a big mess knowing that there's a lot of cock handlers who are reported to be missing and up to this moment, the case is not yet solved and slowly by slowly, that same issue will be forgotten because the families of the missing agents are not making any fuss anymore and it's been speculated that they've handed cold hard cash by the people behind it. Even the government and its police seems not looking into it as well.

These days, the online casino that are focused on cockfighting is slowly getting back to its normal phase. For now, they are still operating under the government's radar because of the said ban but they are looking forward to see that ban lifted so that they will surface again. It's really not that far from happening because the government can use the humungous revenues generated by this casino but the consequence is just too hard to accept.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Also, if it is not a luck based game, how would a casino integrate it into their online games? They would need to either buy a game built based on an algorithmic way to ensure that nobody can cheat by figuring out the algorithm.

If you never knew, the cock fighting is equally a luck base game, as in most cases is not always the biggest cock who wins a fight, just as in our normal MMA fighting, which requires skills, basic experience and more exposure to other cock for fighting will determine if a cock might either win or lose a fight during the main gambling fight.
And this game can be integrated into a programmable form into online gambling

[harizen]

If you never knew, the cock fighting is equally a luck base game, as in most cases is not always the biggest cock who wins a fight, just as in our normal MMA fighting, which requires skills, basic experience and more exposure to other cock for fighting will determine if a cock might either win or lose a fight during the main gambling fight.

That's what you called "upset" since if by luck, an underdog cock can land its "tari" (a metal pointed blade attached to a fighting cock's legs) into an opening spot and that means a sure Knock Out already. However, you can't rely on that most of the time that's why it's still better to refer to the fighting cocks' record and stats. It was an effective strategy most of the time although expect low odds for favorites (sometimes between 1.7 to 1.8 depending on the number of bettors on that round).

However, there are some flaws in this game too especially in manipulating the result. One way is thru the involvement of what we called here as "saltador" (the one that acts as a referee) where during the verdict stage, he might possibly give the other cock additional injury to somehow weakened and lose that match. There are lots of professional "saltador" here where even in front of the camera, they can hide their tricks.

Note: The terms I used here and a bit of shared gameplay are based on our country's way of doing cockfighting. I'm not sure how cockfighting is being played in other countries.