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Yeah, we get feed from these animals but that is something natural. Also, these animals are killed in a proper way and not tortured. In cock fight, the animals get injured, the blood is shed and they die in a manner that is too painful.
Hey, calling that a natural way why chickens should die because of human consumption will trigger the vegetarians haha. Might be different views but since cockfighting is a big gambling industry, it won't really stop. Aside from that, if that operation is legal and all procedures are strictly being followed, we just have to live with that or ignore it. Cockfighting operations also provide several jobs for some people. Again, if anyone sees that as unpleasant, simply ignored it.
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December 23, 2022, 01:19:13 AM |
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Without a doubt cultural differences can lead to different views about this, while some people may not see anything wrong with this some others may see in this a form of animal cruelty, personally I am not fond of this, and this is because if the whole point is to gamble some money and get some fun then I can do this in other gambling games without the need for any animal to end injured or dead, so I think of this as completely unnecessary. Yes. Cultural differences will be there. And therefore we need to refrain from imposing our views on others and respect their personal freedom. Irony dies a thousand deaths when someone sitting in the US or the EU wants to lecture on someone else who is part of a tribal community in Indonesia or Vietnam regarding animal cruelty. These people are practicing their customs for many thousands of years, suddenly some outsiders want them to stop doing that. And the same people who lecture them have no problem with animal cruelty that is going on in the mega corporate agrobusinesses in US/EU. I agree that there will be cultural differences because if we look at Asian countries, this cockfight is still frequently contested. This is difficult to stop because this tradition has existed since ancient times. And that will depend on each person who gambles because we also cannot impose our will on those still playing cockfighting, especially if most of the population there really likes playing cockfighting. We could get into trouble if we keep asking them not to play cockfighting and even if the government asks them to stop, it won't be easy either. Cultural differences really plays a part in cockfighting in various countries that allow this kind of gambling. Each countries have different traditions and culture which we can't really change, thus, we can't really force them to abandon their cockfighting habits most especially if their government permits this in their locality. Although for sure there are types of organizations that fight against their cruel acts on animals. What we can do is to just advocate it if it's our principles as well and avoid engaging in it since we can't really impose our beliefs and idealogies to others. Right. That is why there are lots of traditional gambling in various countries that are still developing today. On the one hand, people want to preserve cockfighting, which may become an identity in a country and that is their tradition and culture. If it is removed, they may lose their identity and forget the traditional games passed down by their ancestors. And if that doesn't suit us, we don't need to watch the cockfight and choose to use other methods to play gambling. We also can't force them to stop playing cockfighting. Without a doubt cultural differences can lead to different views about this, while some people may not see anything wrong with this some others may see in this a form of animal cruelty, personally I am not fond of this, and this is because if the whole point is to gamble some money and get some fun then I can do this in other gambling games without the need for any animal to end injured or dead, so I think of this as completely unnecessary. Yes. Cultural differences will be there. And therefore we need to refrain from imposing our views on others and respect their personal freedom. Irony dies a thousand deaths when someone sitting in the US or the EU wants to lecture on someone else who is part of a tribal community in Indonesia or Vietnam regarding animal cruelty. These people are practicing their customs for many thousands of years, suddenly some outsiders want them to stop doing that. And the same people who lecture them have no problem with animal cruelty that is going on in the mega corporate agrobusinesses in US/EU. I agree that there will be cultural differences because if we look at Asian countries, this cockfight is still frequently contested. This is difficult to stop because this tradition has existed since ancient times. And that will depend on each person who gambles because we also cannot impose our will on those still playing cockfighting, especially if most of the population there really likes playing cockfighting. We could get into trouble if we keep asking them not to play cockfighting and even if the government asks them to stop, it won't be easy either. To add up, even there's already a law against it, in some parts of third country places, traditions indeed are really hard to stop, people who are involved with cockfighting will continue to bring the fight illegally. Knowing gamblers, they will find ways as both enjoyment and gambling is being catered with each cockfighting activities are being held, either in a legal arena or even in a small venue where illegal cockfighting is being catered. The law already exists and the authorities have intensively carried out operations but there are still cockfighting practices in many places and most of the fights are illegal. That's because they don't care about the laws that have been made. Those who play cockfighting still come to gambling and make their bets. This also attracts the attention of many people to see the fight. This is what keeps cockfighting going, even in a hidden place. The gamblers seemed to be able to hold the cockfighting bet so they could keep doing it and even invite lots of people to come and bet.
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December 23, 2022, 03:10:07 AM |
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Hey, calling that a natural way why chickens should die because of human consumption will trigger the vegetarians haha.
Might be different views but since cockfighting is a big gambling industry, it won't really stop.
Aside from that, if that operation is legal and all procedures are strictly being followed, we just have to live with that or ignore it. Cockfighting operations also provide several jobs for some people. Again, if anyone sees that as unpleasant, simply ignored it.
Here is my take on it: Every year, billions (if not trillions) of chickens are being killed to feed the people. And how many get killed in cock-fighting championships? At the most a few thousands? We can't even compare the numbers. And secondly, we can't ignore the benefits from cock fighting, such as the preservation of rare breeds by the participants. And finally, cock fighting is a part of the culture and generates jobs and revenue for the rural population in regions where it is being practiced. All these benefits can't be swept under the carpet.
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Hey, calling that a natural way why chickens should die because of human consumption will trigger the vegetarians haha.
Might be different views but since cockfighting is a big gambling industry, it won't really stop.
Aside from that, if that operation is legal and all procedures are strictly being followed, we just have to live with that or ignore it. Cockfighting operations also provide several jobs for some people. Again, if anyone sees that as unpleasant, simply ignored it.
Here is my take on it: Every year, billions (if not trillions) of chickens are being killed to feed the people. And how many get killed in cock-fighting championships? At the most a few thousands? We can't even compare the numbers. And secondly, we can't ignore the benefits from cock fighting, such as the preservation of rare breeds by the participants. And finally, cock fighting is a part of the culture and generates jobs and revenue for the rural population in regions where it is being practiced. All these benefits can't be swept under the carpet. Oh well, there's always opinions and factors that people can raise about this concern. I'm sure we will hear another opinions regarding to your statement and it will either contest or be agreed by other readers. Either legal or illegal, it's tough to stop those who love betting using this kind of gambling. it's a traditional gambling from other side of third world countries.
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December 23, 2022, 05:56:50 AM |
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Animal fighting is illegal in some region because using life animals such as a donkey or other game animals to gamble is seen as unfair treatment to those animals and one can get a jail term for that, that is why this type of games are not popular modern days gambling.
In my country animal right is in the law and one can not just use cock or any other animal to gamble at will.
Not all countries have laws on animal protection except for endangered animals which are on the verge of extinction, which is why gambling using animals always exists even though it is done in secret not because of regulations regarding animal protection but rather gambling laws, but even if it is done in secret it is difficult to eradicate because the organizers will always have a way to re-hold the event because they will be able to make a lot of money they will try to keep holding it
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December 23, 2022, 09:32:55 AM |
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Cockfighting used to be widespread in many countries because people demanded entertainment, which was not as plentiful as it is today, and travelers brought home many entertainments that were held hundreds of thousands of kilometers away from home. At one period even cockfighting was held in my country, but then this tradition was eradicated by the authorities. So it is possible to eradicate almost everything - if only one had the desire.
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December 23, 2022, 09:48:42 AM |
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Animal fighting is illegal in some region because using life animals such as a donkey or other game animals to gamble is seen as unfair treatment to those animals and one can get a jail term for that, that is why this type of games are not popular modern days gambling.
In my country animal right is in the law and one can not just use cock or any other animal to gamble at will.
Not all countries have laws on animal protection except for endangered animals which are on the verge of extinction, which is why gambling using animals always exists even though it is done in secret not because of regulations regarding animal protection but rather gambling laws, but even if it is done in secret it is difficult to eradicate because the organizers will always have a way to re-hold the event because they will be able to make a lot of money they will try to keep holding it And even though there are laws that regulate animal protection, cockfighting still exists. It's like hunting for wild animals in the wild, which is still being carried out by a group of people and even if the authorities try to chase them, it won't be easy either because it looks like someone is protecting those people. And when there is no law regarding protecting these animals, people freely do cockfights and even in open places that will attract people's attention to see them. And the organizers will make a lot of money because an event like that works.
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December 23, 2022, 10:22:30 AM |
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Animal fighting is illegal in some region because using life animals such as a donkey or other game animals to gamble is seen as unfair treatment to those animals and one can get a jail term for that, that is why this type of games are not popular modern days gambling.
In my country animal right is in the law and one can not just use cock or any other animal to gamble at will.
Not all countries have laws on animal protection except for endangered animals which are on the verge of extinction, which is why gambling using animals always exists even though it is done in secret not because of regulations regarding animal protection but rather gambling laws, but even if it is done in secret it is difficult to eradicate because the organizers will always have a way to re-hold the event because they will be able to make a lot of money they will try to keep holding it Yes, just like in the country where I live, there are still many traditions of cockfighting gambling and it is indeed prohibited by the government because there is a law against gambling in any form. However, there are many cockfighting gambling places that are guaranteed to be safe. From the organizers themselves, they provide taxes to influential or authorized agencies to ensure this security and so that certain government Parliaments do not know about it. Cockfighting gambling activities are actually used by unscrupulous government officials to profit solely from the tax yields provided by the organizers.
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I want to believe many cocks ised for the gambling purpose will serve right for this Christmas season as Xmas chickens this also tells us about various use of cocks on different occasions and serving different purpose, cocks have been seen as one of the common livestocks that can be easily seen within the neighborhood with a number of its species spread across thw world, this great and unique category in their species makes it more suitable for gambling after one would have selected the best breeds to ise for cock fighting games for gambling purposes.
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December 23, 2022, 02:50:36 PM |
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I want to believe many cocks ised for the gambling purpose will serve right for this Christmas season as Xmas chickens this also tells us about various use of cocks on different occasions and serving different purpose, cocks have been seen as one of the common livestocks that can be easily seen within the neighborhood with a number of its species spread across thw world, this great and unique category in their species makes it more suitable for gambling after one would have selected the best breeds to ise for cock fighting games for gambling purposes. Cocks reared for poultry purpose are not the ones being used for cock-fight. Broiler chicken are not suitable for this purpose, as they gain weight very rapidly without much muscle growth. That is the reason why I say that cock fighting helps in preserving rare breeds of birds. In my area, the most common breeds that are used for fighting are - Albany, Kelso, Roundhead, Whitehackle, Brown Red and Asil. These breeds face extinction because they are not preferred by the poultry industry and cockfighting helps in their preservation.
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I want to believe many cocks ised for the gambling purpose will serve right for this Christmas season as Xmas chickens this also tells us about various use of cocks on different occasions and serving different purpose, cocks have been seen as one of the common livestocks that can be easily seen within the neighborhood with a number of its species spread across thw world, this great and unique category in their species makes it more suitable for gambling after one would have selected the best breeds to ise for cock fighting games for gambling purposes. Most of the male chickens are used as fodder in the field of gambling, then the hens or native chickens are destined to be part of people's business in their lives. These male chicken that are fought in the cockpit are used for betting and making sure that before the fight between two roosters is over, one of them will die or become a dish that whoever holds it or owns it, it's that simple.
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I want to believe many cocks ised for the gambling purpose will serve right for this Christmas season as Xmas chickens this also tells us about various use of cocks on different occasions and serving different purpose, cocks have been seen as one of the common livestocks that can be easily seen within the neighborhood with a number of its species spread across thw world, this great and unique category in their species makes it more suitable for gambling after one would have selected the best breeds to ise for cock fighting games for gambling purposes. Cocks reared for poultry purpose are not the ones being used for cock-fight. Broiler chicken are not suitable for this purpose, as they gain weight very rapidly without much muscle growth. That is the reason why I say that cock fighting helps in preserving rare breeds of birds. In my area, the most common breeds that are used for fighting are - Albany, Kelso, Roundhead, Whitehackle, Brown Red and Asil. These breeds face extinction because they are not preferred by the poultry industry and cockfighting helps in their preservation. Some of the people right here are still trying to continue to play and of course, they want to urge before having a Christmas and new year they make a good win some of the people playing cockfights most likely in my country, some of them are using those roosters legs as their trophy and if the rooster lose the game they will give it to the winner of course they cant do anything with the dead fighter, for sure they will still playing have few more days left before the year ends.
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December 23, 2022, 04:50:56 PM |
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OP, the discussion here won't stop because we have our own preferences here. We can't just force our own beliefs on other people. The subject here is the same as those topics that won't end up because of pride and Principle. Better if the thread will be considered now locking. It will lead to nowhere and I think it already serves its purpose.
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og kush420
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December 23, 2022, 05:51:18 PM |
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OP, the discussion here won't stop because we have our own preferences here. We can't just force our own beliefs on other people. The subject here is the same as those topics that won't end up because of pride and Principle. Better if the thread will be considered now locking. It will lead to nowhere and I think it already serves its purpose. Its okie to discuss - however in our country cock fighting is now only be done in the villages. May feudal lords also keep the expensive pets - But this is now going out of the fashion
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December 23, 2022, 11:57:44 PM |
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Hey, calling that a natural way why chickens should die because of human consumption will trigger the vegetarians haha.
Might be different views but since cockfighting is a big gambling industry, it won't really stop.
Aside from that, if that operation is legal and all procedures are strictly being followed, we just have to live with that or ignore it. Cockfighting operations also provide several jobs for some people. Again, if anyone sees that as unpleasant, simply ignored it.
Here is my take on it: Every year, billions (if not trillions) of chickens are being killed to feed the people. And how many get killed in cock-fighting championships? At the most a few thousands? We can't even compare the numbers. And secondly, we can't ignore the benefits from cock fighting, such as the preservation of rare breeds by the participants. And finally, cock fighting is a part of the culture and generates jobs and revenue for the rural population in regions where it is being practiced. All these benefits can't be swept under the carpet. How sad is it to earn your living and money from the cruel killing of the cock fights? I do not think anyone can sleep properly if they saw how cock fighting in being done and here we are talking about earning from this business whether is directly related to conducting this fight or indirectly through gambling on these cock fighting matches. By the way, if cock fighting was a part of culture and popular among the masses, it would not be banned by most governments. We only see this game being played in certain backward areas and modern people have already abandoned this sports.
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December 24, 2022, 05:20:38 AM |
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this is like in gladiator times when people loves to bet for the life of others . aren't we contented in all forms of gambling that we have existed ? there are even thousand kind of game worldwide then why need to put the cocks in the arena and let them die ? this is not tolerable for me , i rather choose to gamble all day in online or live casino than betting in these animals.
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December 24, 2022, 06:58:32 AM |
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Cockfighting used to be widespread in many countries because people demanded entertainment, which was not as plentiful as it is today, and travelers brought home many entertainments that were held hundreds of thousands of kilometers away from home. At one period even cockfighting was held in my country, but then this tradition was eradicated by the authorities. So it is possible to eradicate almost everything - if only one had the desire. It is not as simple, as long as there is demand then there are going to be people that will make the effort to supply what people want. And what better example than the drug war, more than 100 years have passed with governments trying to destroy the demand for drugs, and while billions have been spent and millions of people have been killed or arrested you can still get those substances almost anywhere around the world, and while cock fighting does not have such a huge demand, there is enough of it to guarantee that we will not see it disappear during our lifetimes.
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Animals' fight is no longer attractive lately as modern games have replaced real life animal games as that could be harmful to the animals, I understand the game you are talking about, but then it has been long since I saw people playing such games on the street since duck fight is a physical fight so no online need which is why the traditional gaming network. The
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December 24, 2022, 09:16:12 PM |
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Animals' fight is no longer attractive lately as modern games have replaced real life animal games as that could be harmful to the animals, I understand the game you are talking about, but then it has been long since I saw people playing such games on the street since duck fight is a physical fight so no online need which is why the traditional gaming network. The
^Cockfigting is very popular mostly in Southeast Asia, they have live cock fighting on it and those who did not watch personally can also place bets on an online gambling platform. It is really entertaining to see such a fight because I know there is no trick and it is not manipulated game that you doubted it. If I were in a government position I will not allow this because considering this is an act of animal cruelty which is not a way to kill a rooster, they are animals that could be protected by us. However, don't make yourself complicated, there are too many games to gamble on online not cockfighting.
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December 24, 2022, 09:19:35 PM |
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Animals' fight is no longer attractive lately as modern games have replaced real life animal games as that could be harmful to the animals, I understand the game you are talking about, but then it has been long since I saw people playing such games on the street since duck fight is a physical fight so no online need which is why the traditional gaming network. The
Exactly, animals fight for gambling is for old age method of gambling. Everything has changed so I don even think Asians are still doing it again. In those days when two Fowls were fighting the audience would even pin knight in the middle of the two Fowls and these two Fowls would be fighting for a very long period of time. Everything has been modernized. Physical casinos do not even moving market like the online platforms.
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