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December 11, 2022, 10:46:09 PM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,

Maybe they are facing financial problems and slowly solving those problems. Good thing that they are consistent in trading and investment as slowly but surely, they will soon be able to settle their respective financial problems and struggles and can now focus on making profits.

- inability to properly organized the financial management,
- too much spending on unnecessary things thinking money can be earned easily because these people are good at trading or investing,
- lots of things that needed to spend and covered on a daily basis

Aside from that, there are other possible reasons that only they know why they end up still broke on the process.

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December 14, 2022, 08:00:44 AM
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Not certainly on spiritual aspects but more on physical, mental and emotional state of the investor or trader. If he starts investing without getting ready these physical, mental and emotional aspects, he will still be unsuccessful in all his attempts.
Being prepared to stay emotionally strong is more important for successful trading experiences; people do assume their swing in emotions is somehow related to spiritual things but in my opinion, that is understandable. We need to remember there are traders who live out of trading profits alone hence if we give enough efforts then we also could copy such traders which is basically spiritually and technically possible.

Maybe they are facing financial problems and slowly solving those problems. Good thing that they are consistent in trading and investment as slowly but surely, they will soon be able to settle their respective financial problems and struggles and can now focus on making profits.
I must be another person who believes in your statements. Growth in trading definitely not possible in the beginning dates itself. We must keep hard working by understanding all the aspects of trading system. People need enough time to identify such aspects but unfortunately they start hunting for profits before that time itself which is part that leads to failure for most cases.
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December 16, 2022, 09:20:21 PM
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It seems that luck has not been on their side so they have not been able to benefit from trading or investing. Or it could be because they haven't mastered how to trade or invest properly and correctly. There are many reasons for this and they need to look for it themselves until they find it. In trading or investing, we must understand what to do and not do it carelessly because it won't help and can even hinder us from making profits. They need to look for the cause and only those who can find it and work to fix it can finally turn a profit.
Most people are not capable to manage success, an example of this are lottery winners, I think most of us would think that if a person wins tens of millions on the lottery that should be enough to last those winners a lifetime, but it is not true, those people find themselves in financial trouble as they begin to spend that money as if it is never going to run out, so people go broke despite earning a lot of money because once they get the money they have pursued for so long they do not know how to keep it.
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December 16, 2022, 09:27:34 PM
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It seems that luck has not been on their side so they have not been able to benefit from trading or investing. Or it could be because they haven't mastered how to trade or invest properly and correctly. There are many reasons for this and they need to look for it themselves until they find it. In trading or investing, we must understand what to do and not do it carelessly because it won't help and can even hinder us from making profits. They need to look for the cause and only those who can find it and work to fix it can finally turn a profit.
Most people are not capable to manage success, an example of this are lottery winners, I think most of us would think that if a person wins tens of millions on the lottery that should be enough to last those winners a lifetime, but it is not true, those people find themselves in financial trouble as they begin to spend that money as if it is never going to run out, so people go broke despite earning a lot of money because once they get the money they have pursued for so long they do not know how to keep it.
On the time that you had earned that much then you would really be not minding on how to allocate or budget it which is really that shouldnt really be done.I do see some people who do spend out their

money unwisely specially on the amount which they do really be able to gain up via lotteries or something from their investment or something like that.If you do find it hard to earn then you

would definitely be that mindful or sensible when it comes on how you would gonna spending it and minding that you would really be minding on how to make it grow
or  make it bigger and make yourself sustain for further years to come.

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December 16, 2022, 09:50:17 PM
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Most people are not capable to manage success, an example of this are lottery winners, I think most of us would think that if a person wins tens of millions on the lottery that should be enough to last those winners a lifetime, but it is not true, those people find themselves in financial trouble as they begin to spend that money as if it is never going to run out, so people go broke despite earning a lot of money because once they get the money they have pursued for so long they do not know how to keep it.
It’s all about our mindset, some were able to changed their life completely thru that winning while some just for only few days since they  thinks that it is okay to spend all since they only got it thru winning and it deserves to be enjoyed in everything they wanted, most of the stories I heard were just how fast they spend their winning and how generous they are in giving, but it could be different if our money came from hard work if we waited alot in that winning we sure set our mind on what we gonna do, or if it’s from our trading we keep strategizing or in our investment we sure have set plans for it to grow more.

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December 17, 2022, 04:20:06 PM
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Haha, seriously man you went down all the way to chromosomes. Nah, I don’t think so it works like that in the world of trading mate. If you really want to work then you will need to work as normal trader who knows how to do technical analysis and factual analysis through this market. I think those who are highly skilled in such areas will always be in the top list traders. After all this is game of talent and you can always acquire more skills by learning it with paid or free courses. I hope you understand trading is mathematical logic you have to have understand for perfect trade.
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December 17, 2022, 06:57:44 PM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.
One thing you need to know is that investing or trading in crypto does not make one to be rich. If you are not getting profit in your trading that means you need to do some workings , to ensure you are doing the right thing.  Trading and investing are always profitable but you need to follow the process and rules to earn profit. Their is no where it is written investing in crypto makes one to be rich. If trading makes you to go broke then you need knowledge to understand trading to go about it well.

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December 17, 2022, 09:17:07 PM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.
People are still broke and lose their money even though they are working hard and consistent with it probably because they are;
 * not meant for the crypto world
 * might their strategy are not working well but they still using it
 * Please consider their emotions which could lead to bad decision-making

All of these things can badly affect the result of what you do. As long as you keep those bad habits in your life and never change it, nothing will happen and remain broken.

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December 17, 2022, 09:23:29 PM
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People are still broke and lose their money even though they are working hard and consistent with it probably because they are;
 * not meant for the crypto world
 * might their strategy are not working well but they still using it
 * Please consider their emotions which could lead to bad decision-making

All of these things can badly affect the result of what you do. As long as you keep those bad habits in your life and never change it, nothing will happen and remain broken.
This crypto world belongs to everyone; no exception. So, every trader can be part of it but to stay as a trader, you need lots of preparation and without that if you keep trading then you may face only touch time with your capital rather than being a profitable trader by multiplying your capital.

Good strategy and emotion control kind of things are possible over experience which means you cannot be profitable from day one. But, I am sure that everyone is expecting that which is the core reason for not being successful in crypto trading as per my observation.

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December 17, 2022, 09:38:23 PM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.
One thing you need to know is that investing or trading in crypto does not make one to be rich. If you are not getting profit in your trading that means you need to do some workings , to ensure you are doing the right thing.  Trading and investing are always profitable but you need to follow the process and rules to earn profit. Their is no where it is written investing in crypto makes one to be rich. If trading makes you to go broke then you need knowledge to understand trading to go about it well.
Most noobs mindset is that they do really believe  that this thing could really make them easily get rich through trading.Yes, it could be possible but thats not something simple that would really be happening.
It is really just that hard and lots of challenges that you would really be facing up along the way and its not something you do make yourself get profitable.On the time that you are already making profits
then its really impossible that you would really be having the emotion of being incomplete or something like that because most of people would really be that grateful
on the time that we do make money.I dont know about spiritual things but it doesnt really have any sense if we do try to connect it out.

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Most people are not capable to manage success, an example of this are lottery winners, I think most of us would think that if a person wins tens of millions on the lottery that should be enough to last those winners a lifetime, but it is not true, those people find themselves in financial trouble as they begin to spend that money as if it is never going to run out, so people go broke despite earning a lot of money because once they get the money they have pursued for so long they do not know how to keep it.
It’s all about our mindset, some were able to changed their life completely thru that winning while some just for only few days since they  thinks that it is okay to spend all since they only got it thru winning and it deserves to be enjoyed in everything they wanted, most of the stories I heard were just how fast they spend their winning and how generous they are in giving, but it could be different if our money came from hard work if we waited alot in that winning we sure set our mind on what we gonna do, or if it’s from our trading we keep strategizing or in our investment we sure have set plans for it to grow more.
And without a doubt you are right, those that get their money due to their luck or by an inheritance do not know how difficult it is to earn that money, which is why they end up squandering it, however the one that made that money by working hard and by managing their money responsibly knows how difficult it is to earn money and they will not waste it in stuff they do not need or want, so the mentality of the people is key and we have seen many examples of this on the past so we can demonstrate this is true.
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Most people are not capable to manage success, an example of this are lottery winners, I think most of us would think that if a person wins tens of millions on the lottery that should be enough to last those winners a lifetime, but it is not true, those people find themselves in financial trouble as they begin to spend that money as if it is never going to run out, so people go broke despite earning a lot of money because once they get the money they have pursued for so long they do not know how to keep it.
It’s all about our mindset, some were able to changed their life completely thru that winning while some just for only few days since they  thinks that it is okay to spend all since they only got it thru winning and it deserves to be enjoyed in everything they wanted, most of the stories I heard were just how fast they spend their winning and how generous they are in giving, but it could be different if our money came from hard work if we waited alot in that winning we sure set our mind on what we gonna do, or if it’s from our trading we keep strategizing or in our investment we sure have set plans for it to grow more.
And without a doubt you are right, those the get their money due to their luck or by an inheritance do not know how difficult it is to earn that money, which is why they end up squandering it, however the one that made that money by working hard and by managing their money responsibly knows how difficult it is to earn money and they will not waste it in stuff they do not need or want, so the mentality of the people is key and we have seen many examples of this on the past so we can demonstrate this is true.
For those amounts that been earned through inheritance or something not that they had worked hard then they wont really be mindful on how they would gonna spending it or on how they would really be gonna handling it, as long they do know that they do have tons of money then pretty sure the main thing on their mind is to spend up and buy all the things that they do want.
For those who are sensible towards their actions and been mindful about their future then this is where actions would really vary into each individual.
Trading isnt something thats for everyone on which there are ones who do get successful and there are ones who do really totally failed.

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Haha, seriously man you went down all the way to chromosomes. Nah, I don’t think so it works like that in the world of trading mate. If you really want to work then you will need to work as normal trader who knows how to do technical analysis and factual analysis through this market. I think those who are highly skilled in such areas will always be in the top list traders. After all this is game of talent and you can always acquire more skills by learning it with paid or free courses. I hope you understand trading is mathematical logic you have to have understand for perfect trade.
He did think way too deep and much lol

He just had no idea what he had to do just to be 'like them' a successful trader in frame .. which it's far from the reality , people tend to look at the case while actually inside of those 'successful trader' a lot of pain gained out of what people called as ' successful '
Speaking about spiritual thing , god might have us in each destiny but the searching of the destiny is all on our hands to handle , so get your ass out of cozy couch and start working hard.

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Most people are not capable to manage success, an example of this are lottery winners, I think most of us would think that if a person wins tens of millions on the lottery that should be enough to last those winners a lifetime, but it is not true, those people find themselves in financial trouble as they begin to spend that money as if it is never going to run out, so people go broke despite earning a lot of money because once they get the money they have pursued for so long they do not know how to keep it.
It’s all about our mindset, some were able to changed their life completely thru that winning while some just for only few days since they  thinks that it is okay to spend all since they only got it thru winning and it deserves to be enjoyed in everything they wanted, most of the stories I heard were just how fast they spend their winning and how generous they are in giving, but it could be different if our money came from hard work if we waited alot in that winning we sure set our mind on what we gonna do, or if it’s from our trading we keep strategizing or in our investment we sure have set plans for it to grow more.
And without a doubt you are right, those the get their money due to their luck or by an inheritance do not know how difficult it is to earn that money, which is why they end up squandering it, however the one that made that money by working hard and by managing their money responsibly knows how difficult it is to earn money and they will not waste it in stuff they do not need or want, so the mentality of the people is key and we have seen many examples of this on the past so we can demonstrate this is true.

In inheritance, it is possible that they acquire it easily, but still, they will make the effort, and they are also stressed once they are already running the business, but again, it is not the same with others that they start from scratch. With luck, it is not working for the people that are lazy; they need to get up and work, and luck, or, let's say, opportunities, will come to them. Nowadays, you must be smart because you will be competing with others, and you must have a different strategy than others. 
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.
If he remains poor or doesn't produce anything significant then the job is not suitable for him, then he needs to do another job or also because he doesn't trade with sufficient skills done in the wrong way i.e. based on people's words and so on. If he continues trading without results then he is not wise because he stays in activities that do not provide any profit at all, curses and so on are just myths and have no basis.

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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.
If he remains poor or doesn't produce anything significant then the job is not suitable for him, then he needs to do another job or also because he doesn't trade with sufficient skills done in the wrong way i.e. based on people's words and so on. If he continues trading without results then he is not wise because he stays in activities that do not provide any profit at all, curses and so on are just myths and have no basis.
In that case, that person must have to give and accept the fact that he is not good at this place. He might find another way to earn money that seems to be suitable for him where he can apply his knowledge and skill - of course, to stay in their comfort zone.
In trading, it was also important to know our limitations. I agree that we all have been given equal chance to trade but if there are no improvements for several months in trading, I don't think we have a reason to stay it was rather to move on.
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If he remains poor or doesn't produce anything significant then the job is not suitable for him, then he needs to do another job or also because he doesn't trade with sufficient skills done in the wrong way i.e. based on people's words and so on. If he continues trading without results then he is not wise because he stays in activities that do not provide any profit at all, curses and so on are just myths and have no basis.
I think that mistakes need to be corrected even though mistakes are made everyday. Not everyone is going to have a good time trading, mistakes are made but correcting mistakes are not commonly done by anybody.

The importance of the job is to keep the regular income. I don't keep the date idea at all. Rather I believe that if you are cunning enough, you can make money in trading while keeping a job intact. Whether you get lucky or not makes a difference but you can maintain a regular income from trading that way.

 
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,

The concept of poverty and wealth is a relative value, depending on the meaning that you put into it. But we can definitely say that it is much easier to earn a million dollars with 5 million available than to earn a million with $100 in your asset.

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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,
The concept of poverty and wealth is a relative value, depending on the meaning that you put into it. But we can definitely say that it is much easier to earn a million dollars with 5 million available than to earn a million with $100 in your asset.
Your capital is only 10% influencing in your outcome but plan and experiences are occupying the remaining 90% which is the reason proven successfully people are easily making more money. In my opinion, earning a million from $100 is also possible for the experienced people (given that ignoring the time frame).

People who believing into spiritual aspects in trading or investing are lacking in experiences; once you gather knowledge and experiences then you start believing into your skills by leaving off any kind of external factors.

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December 26, 2022, 07:46:10 PM
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People who believing into spiritual aspects in trading or investing are lacking in experiences; once you gather knowledge and experiences then you start believing into your skills by leaving off any kind of external factors.
I believe in spirituality in life but to say that someone who's good in trading and investing yet, not yet well with financial, there has nothing to do with spiritual about it. There are I know of spiritual law but it's not really connected to this.

I agree that it's about lacking of experience.

Don't know how to manage money, finances and someone might have just been from the lowest up to the top and then is having hard time on keeping up on what's happening to himself so, spending is like becoming a YOLO thing.

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