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December 26, 2022, 08:13:26 PM
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Being active in cryptocurrency trading does not guarantee financial success. Putting out the theory that spiritual powers are to blame for your trading loss will be funny. Given that the market is unpredictable and volatile, how is it even conceivable?

No supernatural force that opposes your success in cryptocurrency trading is to blame for your trading losses. Your ability to understand the market and implement a winning plan will determine how successful you are at trading cryptocurrencies.


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December 26, 2022, 08:34:54 PM
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No supernatural force that opposes your success in cryptocurrency trading is to blame for your trading losses. Your ability to understand the market and implement a winning plan will determine how successful you are at trading cryptocurrencies.
Your first and last sentences as quoted here are what every trader should have at the back of their minds during the low moments. Otherwise, they're going to erroneously capitulate into spiritual manipulation. Failing people often find someone to blame for their failures and that's what I see happening with those who blame it on spiritual sort of thing. In a nutshell, there's nothing like spiritual manipulation in trade.

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December 26, 2022, 08:40:17 PM
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No supernatural force that opposes your success in cryptocurrency trading is to blame for your trading losses. Your ability to understand the market and implement a winning plan will determine how successful you are at trading cryptocurrencies.
Your first and last sentences as quoted here are what every trader should have at the back of their minds during the low moments. Otherwise, they're going to erroneously capitulate into spiritual manipulation. Failing people often find someone to blame for their failures and that's what I see happening with those who blame it on spiritual sort of thing. In a nutshell, there's nothing like spiritual manipulation in trade.
Dont know on why spiritual thing is really getting involved with these stuffs?There's no sense and speaking into those people who do find out that they are succeeding on trading but having
still that feeling of being incomplete or not being happy with those results then i dont know on what they do have in mind.This would re ally falls down on personal problems or matter.
It is really just hard to believe on that there would really be people who cant really be happy specially if they are on the profiting side which lots had failed on this part.
This is why making money would  be the main priority of most people since we know on what are the things that we could do if we do have the funds.

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December 26, 2022, 10:17:13 PM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

To answer your question I will separate the themes:

1 - trade: when people enter the market to trade they still don't have much knowledge of the market and don't have practice in day trading and as a result people lose money and get frustrated, but we have to see that in the market even the people who consider themselves gurus are not living on day trade, they took so much damage that they are creating youtube channels to teach other people how to day trade, but these gurus are making money with youtube channels and with books that they keep writing

2 - investment in cryptocurrencies: many people think that it is only to buy today and days later to sell that they will already be with high profits and other people enter the market with the greed of 10X profit but the point is that the market is uncertain, nothing guarantees that will the price go up a lot and how long will it take to go up a lot and as a consequence even when people buy and do hodl they mentally get tired and sell because they have lost hope that the price will go up a lot

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December 30, 2022, 09:42:54 AM
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In as much as hard work,  determination and other positive discipline are important in growing business  ,making financial profits  ,etc , we should also have it at the back of our mind that there is a place for luck,  some people are very lucky that's why they have it smooth and easy on their first try in crypto,  whereas some have to go through  the extra miles to research and sometimes make some financial loses before they eventually gets it right,
And I will also add that whatever you believe will work for you,
My advice would be that you find yourself among successful people because success is somehow contagious. Thanks
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December 31, 2022, 08:02:04 PM
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1 - trade: when people enter the market to trade they still don't have much knowledge of the market and don't have practice in day trading and as a result people lose money and get frustrated, but we have to see that in the market even the people who consider themselves gurus are not living on day trade, they took so much damage that they are creating youtube channels to teach other people how to day trade, but these gurus are making money with youtube channels and with books that they keep writing

2 - investment in cryptocurrencies: many people think that it is only to buy today and days later to sell that they will already be with high profits and other people enter the market with the greed of 10X profit but the point is that the market is uncertain, nothing guarantees that will the price go up a lot and how long will it take to go up a lot and as a consequence even when people buy and do hodl they mentally get tired and sell because they have lost hope that the price will go up a lot
I still think that investing is a lot better and it would be impossible to be broke if you did not invested 10 bucks. I mean if you invest a decent amount and wait like lets say 10 years then you will definitely get richer. This is not true if you invest into horrible altcoins, but if you invest into bitcoin or ethereum and keep it there for that long like a decade then you are going to end up with a huge profit.

This is definitely a tough thing because many people can't wait that long, but if you could then it would definitely be something awesome without a doubt. I mean life is not that easy and we are going to end up with a lot of hardship, it's better to get finance out of the way at least.

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There is no spiritual force anywhere before drawing a conclusion at least analyse what the trader/investor is doing. How patient and emotional are they when they trade, what choice of coin do they go for and how good are they in making investment decisions. Also look at the current trend for investors who buy and hodl. We are in the bear market where all assets are down so no one is making profit hodling at the moment except for arbitrary traders.

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How can you say and who are those people you are talking about that are consistent in training, but still broke? A lot of people are probably are not making money with reading, but when that happens, usually they stop doing it so I don’t think it will be enough.

Poverty is something that you cannot eradicate  because of the over the world that’s the problem, but if you are talking about the people who stay in the poverty line and not do anything about it, that’s going to be the problem of the person.

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January 01, 2023, 08:55:42 AM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.
I don't believe the few successful traders are broke though they are few in number, according to statistics 95% traders loses their fund, trading and investment thrive well if you have a huge capital and don't totally rely on it as your main source of income because you will be force to trade just to met up with your monthly or weekly profit target unfortunately might ended up in losing streaks, however with a reasonable capital and a working strategy just a monthly or weekly target of 5% is enough with compounding such profits will amount to big sum of money in the long run this is also applicable with investment too.

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January 01, 2023, 10:46:27 AM
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People who believing into spiritual aspects in trading or investing are lacking in experiences; once you gather knowledge and experiences then you start believing into your skills by leaving off any kind of external factors.
I believe in spirituality in life but to say that someone who's good in trading and investing yet, not yet well with financial, there has nothing to do with spiritual about it. There are I know of spiritual law but it's not really connected to this.

I agree that it's about lacking of experience.

Don't know how to manage money, finances and someone might have just been from the lowest up to the top and then is having hard time on keeping up on what's happening to himself so, spending is like becoming a YOLO thing.

If you already believe in spirituality, it will affect all your activities including in business. It is true that success cannot depend only on luck or the help of some invisible force, we need to have the knowledge, experience, and proper application to create the expected results. But as we say, no one can predict the future, and there will always be surprises, so no matter how good you are, it still takes a little luck to lead to success. That luck I will call spiritual.

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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty, but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.
• Have you passed your patience in trading crypto.
• Do you find it difficult to understand crypto trading correctly, margins, futures, spot and so on.
• Have you correctly chosen the type of crypto you are trading.
• Have you correctly analyzed your crypto trading volume chart on the market.
• Are you really trading with cold money and with enough capital.

Have you seen the movement of Bitcoin in the past 7 days past the lows of $16,408 and the highs of $16,886, didn't you overcome poverty in the past 7 days with a net income of $478, so how do you say trading has spiritual, curse and so on.

I think you yourself are experiencing spiritual, cursed on the basis of your lack of understanding in trading crypto. Suggestion: if you have small capital don't trade, long term investment is suitable for you to do, gather, collect and collect as much, when the time comes pick it up.

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January 04, 2023, 02:26:33 PM
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I always considers trading and investing not very far from just pure luck, honestly there's some technical analysis and similar things that could boost your chance of having some profit still the luck that you have might be the ones that could gets you lifechanging profit in most your investments, even though there are indeed many things that could affect your trading results and being good at managing money is one of them.

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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.
Spiritual? If yes then people who spread the religion should be the rich but why business man and investors are rich!

Keep doing wrong doesn't make it right so if someone is losing despite of their hard work then its time to make changes in their strategy for trader as well as investors.

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January 04, 2023, 05:30:26 PM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.
Spiritual? If yes then people who spread the religion should be the rich but why business man and investors are rich!

Keep doing wrong doesn't make it right so if someone is losing despite their hard work then it's time to make changes in their strategy for traders as well as investors.

Successful traders succeed because of their skills and their religious and spiritual belief has nothing to do with it. No matter how religious you are, if you know nothing about trading, your faith won't make you earn any profit but if you are skilled and applying the right strategies and you are not disregarding continuous learning, you will surely succeed in it.
Trading will not make you succeed in the beginning. You have to go through losses to learn from your mistakes but no spiritual forces or any unseen entities are influencing your journey.
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January 04, 2023, 06:30:52 PM
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Have you seen the movement of Bitcoin in the past 7 days past the lows of $16,408 and the highs of $16,886, didn't you overcome poverty in the past 7 days with a net income of $478, so how do you say trading has spiritual, curse and so on.

I think you yourself are experiencing spiritual, cursed on the basis of your lack of understanding in trading crypto. Suggestion: if you have small capital don't trade, long term investment is suitable for you to do, gather, collect and collect as much, when the time comes pick it up.
Its really hard to find your place in crypto and even if you can answer these questions, what you should do afterwards is still not that easy to see. I mean its such a terrible situation until you find it that you could lose so much money until you do, and this won't be a nice thing at all.

I believe for example that I am a long term holder who doesn't do it mindfully but basically just ignore the market, not a big ask considering all I have to do is not even look at what the price is, I have zero clue what the price is right now for example, I know it is somewhere around 17k range, a bit low or higher probably but that's all, no idea about the exact price at all. However, I still make profit, how? I just buy and hold and forget exactly like this.

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January 04, 2023, 06:44:10 PM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to eradicating poverty
They might be having some mental issue which could easily lead to mistakes. And trading emotionally in this situation has to be the main thing. And also those traders who don't have proper knowledge and education about trading could also make the same mistake. Hence, they still trade and invest but instead of making profit, they lose.
For this, I don't think there are any connection with spiritual problems.
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

There is no spiritual forces that's can hinder profit if the trader can actually trade. Perhaps those people who are your point of reference don't know exactly what they are doing.
I don't know how many traders you have come in contact with or how you come to this conclusion but what I do know is - there are many traders put there profiting from their trade.

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January 05, 2023, 10:57:55 PM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to eradicating poverty
They might be having some mental issue which could easily lead to mistakes. And trading emotionally in this situation has to be the main thing. And also those traders who don't have proper knowledge and education about trading could also make the same mistake. Hence, they still trade and invest but instead of making profit, they lose.
For this, I don't think there are any connection with spiritual problems.

It could also be that they are just lying, just as there are gamblers out there which are very vocal about their wins while they hide their losses, there are many traders that are like that too, so while we may have the impression they are making a fortune while they trade as they post about all the profits they have obtained, the truth is that their losses surpass by far those profits, so even if they try to sell themselves as successful traders the reality is nowhere near as optimistic as they try to make us believe.
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January 05, 2023, 11:09:26 PM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to eradicating poverty
They might be having some mental issue which could easily lead to mistakes. And trading emotionally in this situation has to be the main thing. And also those traders who don't have proper knowledge and education about trading could also make the same mistake. Hence, they still trade and invest but instead of making profit, they lose.
For this, I don't think there are any connection with spiritual problems.

It could also be that they are just lying, just as there are gamblers out there which are very vocal about their wins while they hide their losses, there are many traders that are like that too, so while we may have the impression they are making a fortune while they trade as they post about all the profits they have obtained, the truth is that their losses surpass by far those profits, so even if they try to sell themselves as successful traders the reality is nowhere near as optimistic as they try to make us believe.
You are right on this one which is do really matches up on the reality that we are facing.There are people who are really that loves to brag out their positive results.Doesnt matter if you are involved on

gambling or trading which there are really those kind of people who do really love to show off but we dont really know on whats the story behind which same as you said that we dont know if their losses

is way more than on what they do have on their wins or profitable trades or in other means.So its really hard to believe if someone doesnt really get contented
if they are really on that profitable side.

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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.
It does not mean that even if you go for investing and trading, you will already achieved utmost profits. Of course that will only be possible if you have decent skills and strategies in both of them, otherwise you will end up wasting your money because you are following the wrong patterns for investing and trading. Although there are also some inevitable circumstances, but if you only know how to combat them with your knowledge and skills, you will still win and make significant profits at the end of the day.

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