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December 08, 2022, 04:22:16 PM |
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Never heard of casinos asking for proof of income. They want their players to gamble all the money they can for them to earn, and I doubt if you need to justify where your money came from as long as you are already KYC-approved. Not unless they are just asking you for ridiculous documents to avoid paying your winnings. I wouldn't visit any casinos that require such a document aside for their KYC which is just valid ID, there's no need to prove to them where your money is coming from as long as they are earning.
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December 08, 2022, 04:28:11 PM |
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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.
In some online casinos, the funds received from gambling are not considered as a confirmed income, they require you to have a permanent source of your earnings, except if you have received income for some year while gambling and declared it and paid taxes.
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December 08, 2022, 04:28:41 PM |
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I think they are trying not to paid you of your winnings or to let you withdraw your fund. Proof of income has nothing to do with letting you withdraw the money. Actually, this is the first time I know such situations where you must provide a proof of income to the casino so that you will have a good standing account and will be able to withdraw. Most gambling sites I know doesn't require you to provide proof of income so that you can withdraw. It's either you withdraw all your income or some of it and gamblers must go through KYC to withdraw if your account is suspicious. I do know that some casino may ask you to provide the documents to verify the source of funds and not used to let you withdraw the funds.
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December 08, 2022, 04:36:12 PM |
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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.
I mean, if the "proof of salary" you provided is legitimate I don't think they have grounds for denying you your withdrawal. anyway, why would they care about the principle of "gambling for fun"? also, they can't use that as a reason(because it would an extremely stupid reason) to deny your withdrawal request.
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December 08, 2022, 04:46:29 PM |
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As long as you can provide a valid document about your salary, they will approve it whether you deposit it all or not. The gambling casino will never hinder your playing on their platform as long as your fund source is valid. Besides, it is not at the casino's discretion whether you deposit all your earnings or not. Casino for the owner is a business, whether you play for fun or not is out of their concern. The principle of gambling for fun is up to the player and not the casino.
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December 08, 2022, 04:51:02 PM |
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.....will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling,
It shouldn't matter to them if you're putting all your salary BUT you could be questioned if your betting average per month is more than your declared salary. You would still look suspicious if you're betting $1000 when your ONLY known source of funds is your $500 monthly salary. ..... If some crypto casino demands from you to comply with such ridiculous rules in order to allow you to withdraw your earnings, this definitely smells like a scam.
Would you say that Stake is a scam casino should they enforce their policy on proof of income? https://help.stake.com/en/articles/5328395-acceptable-documents-for-source-of-funds
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December 08, 2022, 04:55:56 PM |
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Then your info gets leaked. All telemarketers and emails you will receive just because you try to satisfy your gambling fill and added in some personal info that even your friends shouldn't know about. Perhaps this might prevent people from not having enough money to gamble and will go out and take a loan just to play, but I also see some negative thing about this proof of income thing that will surely turn sour as time progresses. You have all sorts of info leaked even if they are already stored in secured servers but what about this one? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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uneng
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December 08, 2022, 05:04:34 PM |
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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.
I think a requirement like this won't be ever asked by the casino. It limits too much gambling activity. Someone doesn't even need a wage to gamble. There are people who live with their families and have all their expenses paid by the family. They earn "free money" and use this money to gamble. Then would they have to say this to the casino while also presenting a justification on why their relatives give them money for nothing? If so, even criminals who are laundering money can use this excuse. So, nothing changes compared to the currently scenario.
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December 08, 2022, 05:25:33 PM |
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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.
Casino site wouldn’t ask you to show your proof of income but i seen some casino site can asking bank statement to verify yourself for example your real name and anything else like KYC verification . Casino sites don't care how much money you earn per month or how much money you use to gamble per month. So there you can use them for gambling as much as you want according to the limitation and you can not use them if you don't want. They won't force you to spend a certain amount
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December 08, 2022, 05:30:55 PM |
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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.
To me, I think proof of earning is proof of earning like the title goes, which ever way it is, the casino will have no choice but to accept it except they have an ulterior motive in mind for not accepting it. By the way, if I have passed kyc verification as I should with the casino, what again would they been needing a proof of earning for, is to verify if actually I earned the money I am using to gamble or maybe I stole it, or is this just one the tricks casinos play on gamblers to try to frustrate them into giving up their winning? Requesting for this kind of verification is just not right if I am asked.
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December 08, 2022, 06:06:10 PM Last edit: December 11, 2022, 04:24:21 PM by roslinpl |
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Actually most of the gamblers here are the people who earning from jobs too. Most of the people use their income to play gambling, because the income they generated based on their hard work. So they will do use of gambling for their entertainment with the money they have. If anyone asked for the bankroll, they can easily prove it. So many can easily pass the proof of income.
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December 08, 2022, 06:08:22 PM |
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In some cases approved proof of earnings can be a bank statement not later than 3 months to be considered valid, it doesn't matter how much is earn but the bank stamp declearing the document to be valid unless in some cases of violations of casino rules were an account is suspected to have been involved in money laundering activities that way the casino can go further to prove how much is earn and what has left the account or come unto the account for investigation sake.
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December 08, 2022, 06:16:19 PM |
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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.
Unless and until you are playing with a huge (really huge) amount of money, no crypto casino should ask for such proof of income. If some casinos do it, let us know the name so that we can avoid it for good. This is not really a good practice for the crypto casinos and may indicate a potential exit scam. Alternatively, if you are providing the income proof which justifies your bankroll, you should not face any issue. But earning and gambling with the same amount, may trigger some more question at their end. But at the end of the day, a casino must not hold your winning just because of this reason. If they do, they are scam casino and must be avoided.
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December 08, 2022, 06:23:07 PM |
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I kind of feel like proof of income is a bs term honestly. It's my money I should be able to spend it how I want. If you don't earn your money by 1 of the means they deem acceptable, they will confiscate your funds. A rule to me that is no different than the multiple accounts rule. Rules to give casinos a way to take money from a person.
How is online any different than going to the casino live? I walk into a casino, show my ID, and proceed to gamble on the game of my choice. There's no how did you earn that money question. They have no idea if I just robbed a store before walking in their door. So why does online casinos need this info? And why are we ok with it?
I see the arguments for casinos having these rules, I just don't necessarily agree with them completely.
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December 08, 2022, 06:39:53 PM |
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Is this necessary in gambling and what business of a casino it is to inquire how I get my money and how I choose to spend them, the casinos that ask for such verification are centralized and should be avoided just like those asking for KYC if tho value your privacy then we should be mindful of such rules. Proof of earning is only necessary for extreme cases of violation of casino terms and anti laundering mechanism.
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December 08, 2022, 06:42:30 PM |
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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.
If the requirement they need is just to show proof and it's acceptable based on their terms and conditions then they'll surely validate that. I don't think that they have that validation to accept you in the first place because you're just playing for fun, they require it because they need to comply on the regulation.
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December 08, 2022, 06:58:34 PM |
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I've never heard of any casino asking for a proof of income. That's too personal and has nothing to do with the right compliance with the KYC. In case this happens, the casino wouldn't mind about your salary as well as where you're getting your gambling funds from. They benefit from you and your bets so they will never ban you for such a reason but as far as I know, casinos will only ask for your identification and not your proof of income.
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December 08, 2022, 07:08:08 PM |
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I dont see that 500 would be an issue they have to pursue, if its millions then maybe its something a company is obliged to check I dont know. I would hope very much they refrain from harassing normal people from whether they have 500 to spend because thats normal behaviour and criminalizing a population for normal behaviour is pointless.
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December 08, 2022, 08:21:11 PM |
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I dont see that 500 would be an issue they have to pursue, if its millions then maybe its something a company is obliged to check I dont know. I would hope very much they refrain from harassing normal people from whether they have 500 to spend because thats normal behaviour and criminalizing a population for normal behaviour is pointless.
Other bettors spend thousands in gambling and I don't think casinos should question that by asking for their proof of income. I think gamblers have the right to go against it or not comply in case the casino will ask for this personal information. Lots of us don't want KYC so asking for a proof of income will bw too much. Asking for the bankroll information will be enough but questioning our expenses in gambling isn't justifiable.
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December 08, 2022, 08:41:33 PM |
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Ok, suddenly the casino you're playing asks you for proof of income to be able to withdraw your winnings and to keep your account in good standing, your bankroll every month is $500 and you provide proof of salary that you are making $500 net every month, will they accept that proof will they accept that you are putting all your salary for gambling, will this violate the principle of gamble for fun, because you are working to gamble based on your proof income.
That can work since the casinos might also consider that you are able to save some money since you are earning enough and capable of playing on their site. If the site started to require you with this then probably you are able to hit big profits from them, just don’t panic and coordinate with them as long as you have a proof of income then you can be good. Though don’t ever think to falsify your documents or else you might experience another problem and you might not be able to get your winnings.
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